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Title: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: quantumslip on May 04, 2009, 02:45:25 AM
I was wondering if anyone knows the location of a 1/5 mile exit sign in the DC area, near Crystal City. My friends were amused when we saw it, but couldn't get a picture of it. Now I've taken the task of digging through StreetView, but have not been able to find it. Some say that it is on 395 on the way to exit to Crystal City, but I've gone along that route and found nothing. Can anyone point to me where it actually is or have a picture? Thanks!
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: akotchi on May 04, 2009, 12:28:43 PM
Try I-66 at Exit 75 in Virginia.  Looked at photos available, but did not see specific sign, but that exit does serve Crystal City.  Might be WB, leaving D.C.

Good luck!
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Chris on May 04, 2009, 01:26:04 PM
Streetview screendump:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F4gqivk.jpg&hash=2748fa75b1f0c64dd35b85625765e5b4a37a99ea)
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Truvelo on May 04, 2009, 01:34:41 PM
There's suddenly been a huge increase in the amount of high resolution Streetview in the US. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: quantumslip on May 04, 2009, 01:54:35 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=washington+dc&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=XCv_SauUBYmclQeb0riWCw&ll=38.865575,-77.071195&spn=0.013199,0.022101&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=38.865556,-77.071031&panoid=9ZUh5wVkX-eRviLZnuY7dw&cbp=12,280.22579896266893,,0,-2.6019417475728153 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=washington+dc&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=XCv_SauUBYmclQeb0riWCw&ll=38.865575,-77.071195&spn=0.013199,0.022101&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=38.865556,-77.071031&panoid=9ZUh5wVkX-eRviLZnuY7dw&cbp=12,280.22579896266893,,0,-2.6019417475728153)

Wow wow, never expected to have someone find it. Thanks a bunch!  :)
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 04, 2009, 03:35:10 PM
One day I'll actually photograph this and I also believe that a 1/5 mile sign exists for the Stadium Rd exit in Lunchburg from US 29 Business(Lynchburg Expressway)(I haven't been to Lynchburg in eons)
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 04, 2009, 09:01:24 PM
There is also a 1/5 mile sign for I-64 on eastbound US 250 in Short Pump, although US 250 isn't a freeway like in the other two cases mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: njroadhorse on June 04, 2009, 08:00:16 PM
I've seen a bunch of x/10 mile advance signs on the Schuylkill, like this one:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastroads.com%2Fpennsylvania075%2Fi-076_wb_exit_342_03.jpg&hash=3a44c93b7937cb438b369207665d055caeaa3e24)
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Alps on June 04, 2009, 09:34:01 PM
Quote from: njroadhorse on June 04, 2009, 08:00:16 PM
I've seen a bunch of x/10 mile advance signs on the Schuylkill
Also on I-676.  I believe I saw them on US 202 around West Chester as well, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Alex on June 04, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
U.S. 202 northbound at West Chester has the 1/8th mile sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastroads.com%2Fpennsylvania200%2Fus-202_nb_322_wb_exit_009b_02.jpg&hash=55c7238777eba1aff972cd0468ba8ed3b8c91f65)
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Sykotyk on June 05, 2009, 12:01:19 AM
There's a 4/5 sign on I-81 southbound approaching I-64 east in Virginia.

Sometimes, I wish we had just switched to metric years ago. So much easier than fractions, feet, and miles.

Sykotyk
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: mightyace on June 05, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: AARoads on June 04, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
U.S. 202 northbound at West Chester has the 1/8th mile sign:

How recent was that picture?

I remember seeing that gantry in the 1970s going to my grandparents in DE and the picture exactly like I remember!
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Alex on June 05, 2009, 03:13:37 AM
Quote from: mightyace on June 05, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: AARoads on June 04, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
U.S. 202 northbound at West Chester has the 1/8th mile sign:

How recent was that picture?

I remember seeing that gantry in the 1970s going to my grandparents in DE and the picture exactly like I remember!

That photo is from 2000. I know those text button copy guide signs were still kicking in 2004...
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: akotchi on June 05, 2009, 08:25:54 AM
Quote from: AARoads on June 05, 2009, 03:13:37 AM
Quote from: mightyace on June 05, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: AARoads on June 04, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
U.S. 202 northbound at West Chester has the 1/8th mile sign:

How recent was that picture?

I remember seeing that gantry in the 1970s going to my grandparents in DE and the picture exactly like I remember!

That photo is from 2000. I know those text button copy guide signs were still kicking in 2004...

They are still kicking in 2009 as well . . . I've been through there recently.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: deathtopumpkins on June 28, 2009, 03:52:57 AM
On a related note I was driving on I-264 EB towards Portsmouth yesterday, and noticed that several of the advance guide signs had been changed to 1/3 mile. Odd, seeing as thirds are hardly standard distances.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: mightyace on June 28, 2009, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 28, 2009, 03:52:57 AM
On a related note I was driving on I-264 EB towards Portsmouth yesterday, and noticed that several of the advance guide signs had been changed to 1/3 mile. Odd, seeing as thirds are hardly standard distances.

Could these be or have been 1/2 kilometer guide signs?

1 km = 0.62mi so 1/2 km = 0.31 mi and 1/3 mi = 0.33 mi
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: froggie on June 28, 2009, 01:27:40 PM
I haven't been on that stretch of 264 in a long while, but given how close together many of the interchanges are along there, 1/3 mile advance guide signs are not out of the question.  1/3 mile may not be a "standard distance", but it is an acceptable distance value in the MUTCD.

I highly doubt they were former 1/2 km guide signs...as best as I can tell, Virginia never experimented with that.  Mike (mapmikey) might have a better answer, though.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: deathtopumpkins on June 28, 2009, 02:38:07 PM
I'm not sure what they were originally either... I never normally have a reason to take that part of 264.
Could they have possibly been 1/4 or 1/2 that VDOT remeasured and found to be closer to 1/3?
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: J N Winkler on July 01, 2009, 08:26:28 AM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 28, 2009, 02:38:07 PMVFOT

Sorry to be thick--but was that a value judgment?
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 01, 2009, 12:32:10 PM
looks like a typo to me ... while the F word is extremely versatile, here I'm having a bit of trouble reconciling it with the acronym in a way that isn't awkward at best.

FVDOT would be a value judgement.  MFVDOT a harsher one.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Hellfighter on July 01, 2009, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: AARoads on June 04, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
U.S. 202 northbound at West Chester has the 1/8th mile sign:


What's up with the median? It looks like it's a fence on the center line.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Alps on July 01, 2009, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter on July 01, 2009, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: AARoads on June 04, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
U.S. 202 northbound at West Chester has the 1/8th mile sign:


What's up with the median? It looks like it's a fence on the center line.
It's box beam guiderail.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: deathtopumpkins on July 02, 2009, 11:44:54 PM
 :-D It was a typo. The F key is above the V key.
It's been fixed now.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Mapmikey on July 12, 2009, 01:23:28 PM
Quote from: froggie on June 28, 2009, 01:27:40 PM
I haven't been on that stretch of 264 in a long while, but given how close together many of the interchanges are along there, 1/3 mile advance guide signs are not out of the question.  1/3 mile may not be a "standard distance", but it is an acceptable distance value in the MUTCD.

I highly doubt they were former 1/2 km guide signs...as best as I can tell, Virginia never experimented with that.  Mike (mapmikey) might have a better answer, though.


I am aware of metric distances on signs in Virginia right off the top of my head: 

km posts on SR 3000 (Prince William Pkwy) between SR 642 Hoadly Rd and Liberia Ave in Manassas

In the 70s-80s there was a reassurance shield with destination sign US 17 SB leaving US 13-460 that had the NC State Line and Elizabeth City in both miles and kilometers.

Other Virginia locations for small fraction signs: 1/5 mile on US 250 Bypass at US 29 Bus Charlottesville; also two locations in Danville at clovers involving VA 413/VA 86 and US 58 Bus/US 29 Bus.  I swear I have seen a 1/10 sign but for the life of me cannot remember where it is.

Mapmikey
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on July 12, 2009, 02:46:21 PM
There is also a 1/3 mile sign on US 13 northbound just before US 60; it replaced another 1/3 mile sign (which had nothing wrong with it, and the new Clearview US 60 sign in its place has the same un-centered US 60 shield on it).
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 14, 2009, 12:07:41 PM
Here's a 1/8 mile sign for NJ 42 from I-295 SB near Camden, NJ  (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi622.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt304%2F24DIDNOTWIN%2FI-295SOUTH125MILESNORTHOFNJ42.jpg&hash=c162d3c8c084c53d92926f2af344ccb801d4a913)
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Bickendan on July 14, 2009, 12:40:40 PM
1/5 mile exit sign on the westbound I-94/US10/12/52 quadplex in St Paul between LaFayette Ave and I-35E. ...and I'm not seeing it in streetview. Can you clarify where it was, froggie?

1/8 mile exit sign on southbound I-35/westbound I-70/US24/40 in downtown Kansas City. And Google hasn't covered this one in streetview... I'll need to upload my video of I-35 through KC at some point.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Alex on July 22, 2009, 08:16:34 PM
And there is a 1/5 mile sign on Interstate 10 east at Exit 7 in Pensacola:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastroads.com%2Fflorida010%2Fi-010_eb_exit_007a_02.jpg&hash=bd79369e99333c063da1ac1ad27ca23b16cd9568)
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: mightyace on July 22, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
^^^ What's up with the separate FL 297 signs?

Did the FL 297 designation come after the original BGS were set up?
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Alex on July 22, 2009, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: mightyace on July 22, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
^^^ What's up with the separate FL 297 signs?

Did the FL 297 designation come after the original BGS were set up?

Take a look at the signs that were replaced:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastroads.com%2Fflorida010%2Fi-010_eb_exit_007a_03.jpg&hash=2cc82c61164fce823e216d298dedb87ae0d6e41d)

I have no idea of why FL 297 was omitted from the sign replacements; the green box signs with FL 297 were added soon after the original install. These have been up since December 2002.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: 1995hoo on April 28, 2011, 10:20:06 PM
There is a 1/10 mile sign on westbound I-66 as you approach the Beltway (Exit 64); the sign is attached to the overpass carrying Virginia Lane over the highway. It originally said 1/4 mile but was plainly and obviously wrong, so they changed it to the rather odd 1/10 figure.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Eth on April 29, 2011, 09:36:09 PM
I also remember a 1/5 mile sign somewhere on I-81 northbound in Virginia inside a cloverleaf.  I want to say it's somewhere in the general area of Roanoke, but I'm not quite sure.
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: Mapmikey on April 30, 2011, 09:42:14 AM
The 1/5 mile sign on I-81 is at Exit 188, US 60 in Lexington

Mapmikey
Co-curator Virginia Hwys Project
www.vahighways.com
Title: Re: 1/5 mile sign in DC metro area?
Post by: SteveG1988 on April 30, 2011, 01:15:36 PM
295 in NJ has a 800 Feet sign for a cloverleaf

I do beleive it is at Exit 52, i have to head that way tomorrow so i will see what i can do about a photo.