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crispy93

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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #975 on: June 10, 2021, 03:08:53 PM »

There's a STATE SPEED LIMIT 35 sign with the STATE covered up on this service road in Queens, which is interesting because there are no 55 mph zones in NYC. Zoom in closely and you can make out the word STATE: https://goo.gl/maps/Cgbd21dctEkD1kjh8 and there's another one a short distance after
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #976 on: June 10, 2021, 07:00:40 PM »

There's a STATE SPEED LIMIT 35 sign with the STATE covered up on this service road in Queens, which is interesting because there are no 55 mph zones in NYC. Zoom in closely and you can make out the word STATE: https://goo.gl/maps/Cgbd21dctEkD1kjh8 and there's another one a short distance after


Guessing that was a contractor error when that stretch of the LIE and the interchange were redone. Those are certainly not NYCDOT installs (which have the Speed Checked by Radar legend at the bottom.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #977 on: June 10, 2021, 09:45:39 PM »

The city was smoking something with the Grand Concourse (B/D) line, because it is a block away from the Jerome Avenue (4) line...especially when you learn that a line was planned along 3rd Avenue.

They weren't smoking anything, they built subway lines right next to existing elevated lines quite deliberately, for two reasons:
1) The IRT and BMT at the time were still separate private companies, and the city was trying to compete with them in order to drive them into insolvency so they could take them over. This plan worked and is why we have one subway system today rather than three.
2) In the 1930s people looked at elevated subway lines the way a lot of people now look at elevated freeways: as hideous ugly things that needed to be torn down. So a lot of IND subways were intended to replace nearby els. This played out in many places elsewhere: the 6th and 8th Ave subways in Manhattan replaced the 6th and 9th Ave els, the Fulton St Subway in Brooklyn replaced the Fulton el. The Concourse subway was likewise potentially intended to replace the Jerome el, however unlike in other such cases the el was never removed because there was enough ridership to support both existing in parallel.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #978 on: June 11, 2021, 10:54:33 AM »

"Robert Moses crusaded against the subways"

It's time to quit blaming Robert Moses. It's been more than 55 years since he was in a position of power. And the New York of today is vastly richer than it was in his day.
Richer, sure, but if you can find me popular support for roads then I can sell you a bridge in Brooklyn.
find me a bridge entirely in Brooklyn
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6938232,-73.9988344,3a,75y,290.98h,90.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgYvv_h2xWWGQBB7d1DzYWw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks like it's just south of the Brooklyn Heights Promenade (notice the northbound [higher] BQE deck preparing to go above the southbound deck).

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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #979 on: June 11, 2021, 11:02:11 AM »

"Robert Moses crusaded against the subways"

It's time to quit blaming Robert Moses. It's been more than 55 years since he was in a position of power. And the New York of today is vastly richer than it was in his day.
Richer, sure, but if you can find me popular support for roads then I can sell you a bridge in Brooklyn.
find me a bridge entirely in Brooklyn

https://goo.gl/maps/U9VDJM27Urh9BWcx7

Not a road bridge: https://goo.gl/maps/jkaGGtbuvhZqDEAz8

https://goo.gl/maps/TLE4rer5mUETT5JH8
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