Odd signalized intersections

Started by tolbs17, March 23, 2021, 07:06:50 PM

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tolbs17

I find it super funny that this intersection is signalized. Prolly cause it connects to Memorial Dr and there is many speeders here.

This intersection was signalized, but when the US 64 and NC 11 bypasses opened, AADT significantly declined, so they turned it into a 2-way stop.

https://ncdot.maps.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=b7a26d6d8abd419f8c27f58a607b25a1

AADT on highway 11 business went from 8,800 to like 1,000.

and 64 from 5,000 to 1,000.


SkyPesos

A signalized intersection between two lightly traveled roads in a purely residential area in my metro area, like the op example

tolbs17

Quote from: SkyPesos on March 23, 2021, 07:32:40 PM
A signalized intersection between two lightly traveled roads in a purely residential area in my metro area, like the op example
Looking back in the older years, there were more signals. and We have span signals in Pinetops.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7917401,-77.6389627,3a,75y,124.66h,94.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbdv4Isfj5LXqaSUT4ONnCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

NC-11 by the Greenville Airport used to have one as well.

roadman65

In Orlando, John Young Parkway has three of them and most were demanded in order for NIMBY's in the area to get the road built.  There is one just north of the busy JYP and LB McCleod Road intersection that is in the wake of the queue for that intersection and under normal circumstances would be too close to be allowed.  The road with the signal should really be a RIRO, but the City of Orlando made a deal with those living behind the resort hotel on the corner they would receive a light to replace another removed on LB McCleod Road east of there.

Then you have both CR Smith Road and Monte Carlo Trail that are side streets with a very low traffic counts on each, but part of the deal to get the City to build the missing link of JYP (as previously it was in two segments and the I-4 to SR 408 was the last to be completed) as the area in that corridor is a social class neighborhood and put up a big squawk to the city for even thinking of building it.
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mrsman

Rosewood ave and Arden blvd in L.A. is a quiet residential corner that is signalized.  I simply can't imagine why it is signalized as both streets are relatively quiet.


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andrepoiy

This quiet residential intersection is not only signalled, it also has a left-turn arrow. I guess it is useful for the 2 hours that this intersection does get busy (like during rush hours) but for the other 22 hours, this intersection would be better off as a 4-way-stop. So much time wasted sitting at this light when there were no other cars, smh.


tolbs17

Quote from: andrepoiy on March 24, 2021, 06:53:39 PM
This quiet residential intersection is not only signalled, it also has a left-turn arrow. I guess it is useful for the 2 hours that this intersection does get busy (like during rush hours) but for the other 22 hours, this intersection would be better off as a 4-way-stop. So much time wasted sitting at this light when there were no other cars, smh.


Ye, a 4 way stop or a roundabout would work.

tolbs17

Should all off ramps be signalized from freeways?

Currently there's two in Greenville that are - NC 11/US-13 near Patheon, and the other one at US-13/264ALT.

Big John

^^ No, there are roundabout interchanges, and more so there are lightly travelled ramps, mainly in rural areas where a stop sign suffices.

tolbs17

Quote from: Big John on March 24, 2021, 10:08:03 PM
^^ No, there are roundabout interchanges, and more so there are lightly travelled ramps, mainly in rural areas where a stop sign suffices.
Both wouldn't be appropriate for those junctions. Maybe at NC-102 but that was built as a parclo B4.

NC 43 wouldn't be a bad idea if it gets a roundabout interchange.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: tolbs17 on March 24, 2021, 09:54:19 PM
Should all off ramps be signalized from freeways?

Currently there's two in Greenville that are - NC 11/US-13 near Patheon, and the other one at US-13/264ALT.

Funny you would suggest that in a thread you created about traffic lights on low volume roads.

Many interchanges don't have much traffic, so no traffic lights would be warranted.

kphoger

Quote from: tolbs17 on March 24, 2021, 09:54:19 PM
Should all off ramps be signalized from freeways?

Of course not.  Geez.  Why would you signalize this?  Or, better yet, this?




As for my own submission, I really don't think this signal in Del Rio, TX, is needed.
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tolbs17

Quote from: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 09:35:26 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 24, 2021, 09:54:19 PM
Should all off ramps be signalized from freeways?

Of course not.  Geez.  Why would you signalize this?  Or, better yet, this?




As for my own submission, I really don't think this signal in Del Rio, TX, is needed.
Make it a 2-way stop like they did in Bethel.

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tolbs17

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 26, 2021, 08:28:16 PM
Also this one. Left turn is allowed, btw.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/c2Miw11SgA49ApDP7
should have put a free flowing right turn. That looks risky to me.

tolbs17

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8178579,-77.4524257,3a,75y,328.34h,78.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srdRObN8XWjEkB-vKOIRYMQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'm pretty sure this intersection was signalized (maybe not) before, but it only goes back to 2002. The freeway section opened in 1998.

AADT is too low to make it a 4-way stop or a roundabout.

paulthemapguy

Signal in the OP is probably because you can't see around the corner due to the position of the brick building.
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tolbs17

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Quote from: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 09:35:26 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 24, 2021, 09:54:19 PM
Should all off ramps be signalized from freeways?

Of course not.  Geez.  Why would you signalize this?  Or, better yet, this?




As for my own submission, I really don't think this signal in Del Rio, TX, is needed.
Or here even. Or even here!

These are slightly more urban compared to the ones you showed off.

tolbs17

Why was this off ramp signalized first then downgraded to stop signs and then signalized once again?  :hmmm:

I don't understand.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7833368,-78.4427316,3a,75y,31.08h,92.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8Vw2xkDl8W7LCk3q2Rg2iQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

andarcondadont

This has probably already been mentioned in a different thread, but Selma Alabama has some unusual signalized intersections as they don't seem to be very busy.

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EpicRoadways

Quote from: tolbs17 on April 25, 2021, 06:07:58 PM
Why was this off ramp signalized first then downgraded to stop signs and then signalized once again?  :hmmm:

I don't understand.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7833368,-78.4427316,3a,75y,31.08h,92.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8Vw2xkDl8W7LCk3q2Rg2iQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Was this intersection ever actually signalized before the stop signs were put in or were the poles just put in place for future signals?  If the latter is the case, this is something that happens pretty commonly when there's expected to be development that will increase traffic volumes at an intersection in the near future. Unless I'm missing something I can only see GSV images from 2012 (stop signs), 2015, and 2019 (both with signals).

tolbs17

Quote from: EpicRoadways on April 25, 2021, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on April 25, 2021, 06:07:58 PM
Why was this off ramp signalized first then downgraded to stop signs and then signalized once again?  :hmmm:

I don't understand.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7833368,-78.4427316,3a,75y,31.08h,92.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8Vw2xkDl8W7LCk3q2Rg2iQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Was this intersection ever actually signalized before the stop signs were put in or were the poles just put in place for future signals?  If the latter is the case, this is something that happens pretty commonly when there's expected to be development that will increase traffic volumes at an intersection in the near future. Unless I'm missing something I can only see GSV images from 2012 (stop signs), 2015, and 2019 (both with signals).
In 2010 and 2011 it was signalized.

andrepoiy

Here is an intersection which I found was interesting:

This road has 3 lanes and a left-turn-lane and right-turn-lane. Usually a road of this size would have a left-turn signal when it intersects another major road, in this case it does.

But no, this only gets a permissive right turn.



Caps81943

This one in NoVA (Herndon) that I randomly found one day is just between a very minor artery (25 mph) and a quiet neighborhood street:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9857389,-77.397046,3a,82.5y,186.74h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-2s9MD4izqDLTkZrT8coeA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Wisconsin, a generally very signal-conservative state already, has this intersection between two country roads outside Hayward (yes I know there's a small casino there but still):

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.997215,-91.384158,3a,75y,87.43h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8Xv_h6cdZ1x3_MNvFb_3YA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


I can't imagine there's ever enough traffic in downtown Goodland, KS to warrant not one but two traffic lights:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3479911,-101.7114803,3a,75y,288.51h,80.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5knBdnzkTpzlzHLu6413-w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664

I may think of others, but those are the ones I've found that I recall.

HTM Duke

Quote from: Caps81943 on April 27, 2021, 12:44:35 AM
This one in NoVA (Herndon) that I randomly found one day is just between a very minor artery (25 mph) and a quiet neighborhood street:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9857389,-77.397046,3a,82.5y,186.74h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-2s9MD4izqDLTkZrT8coeA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looking at Google, I see that there's an elementary school near the east end of Builder's Rd.  I'd wager a guess and say that signal was installed to make it easier for buses and other school traffic to reach and depart from said school.
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