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[TempoNick]

Cheviot?

https://www.wlwt.com/article/cheviot-highway-sign-misspelled-chevoit-i-74/44725155

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

Does anyone know kind of roadway would have continued from this interchange on OH 7: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4344063,-82.4570562,755m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu. Was it to have been a relocation of OH 7 that never came into fruition?

That was part of H.B.'s tri-state meet, from a decade ago.
Why didn't you make the roadie from Wisconsin to attend?

[Dirt Roads]

Cheviot?

Indeed.  Cheviot was a major railroad "control point" on the Chesapeake & Ohio, as all of the maps, track plans and circuit plans were labeled "Cheviot -to- Chicago".  This railroad town was also known for a steep downgrade into downtown Cincinnati called Cheviot Hill, which could be dangerous when traversed by "greenhorn" locomotive engineers.  Cheviot Hill (and the town of Cheviot) got bypassed when the Chessie System constructed Queensgate Yard in the late 1970s.  The C&O mainline was rerouted through Cottage Grove (which became the new "control point"), but most of the maps and plans never got re-titled.

[countysigns]

Bridge walk to mark I-75 project's imminent completion
https://www.toledoblade.com/local/transportation/2023/08/04/bridge-walk-to-mark-i-75-project-s-imminent-completion/stories/20230804137

Pedestrians are usually forbidden on I-75, but the Ohio Department of Transportation will make a special exception Monday afternoon when it marks the imminent completion of the replacement DiSalle Bridge.

The opening of the new bridge's northbound lanes the following weekend will mark the last major milestone of ODOT's massive I-75 reconstruction project between downtown Toledo and Glenwood Road in Rossford.

That completes $1.1 billion in I-75 construction between Toledo and Lima over about a dozen years, ODOT said. Those projects have featured complete reconstruction between I-280 in Toledo and U.S. 68/State Rt. 15 in Findlay and around Lima.

After an ODOT dedication ceremony at 1 p.m. Monday, the public can walk the new bridge and take pictures.

Among other things, the bridge walk will provide a rare opportunity for people with longer-lensed cameras to photograph the Glass City River Wall mural from the DiSalle Bridge, upon which motorists are not allowed to stop except in emergencies.

Public parking will be available at Hollywood Casino Toledo. Shuttle buses to and from the bridge will operate between noon and 4 p.m.

Meanwhile, the transfer of northbound traffic onto its permanent lanes between Wales Road in Northwood and South Avenue in Toledo will start at 4 a.m. Friday, when the Wales entrance to the northbound side will close until sometime the following afternoon.

At 8 p.m., northbound traffic will be reduced to one lane near the Wales and Miami Street interchanges for final paving and implementation of the traffic shift.

Northbound ramps at the Miami and South Avenue interchanges will intermittently close on Aug. 12 until the shift is complete. ODOT said those ramps may also be closed at night earlier in the week for final paving.

Once I-75's mainline stripe painting is complete during the afternoon of Aug. 12, two northbound lanes will be open on the permanent northbound side. A third lane will open later.

After traffic is switched, the main items left on the project will be final southbound paving, finishing the median barrier wall, completing concrete sealing, and final pavement markings, said Kelsie Hoagland, an ODOT spokesman.

"We are excited for the final two installments of the I-75 corridor reconstruction to be coming to an end,"  Patrick McColley, ODOT's district deputy director in Bowling Green, said in a written statement. "This decade-long revitalization plays a critical role in the growth of our region that we will continue to see in the coming generations."

ODOT began its broader I-75 campaign by rebuilding the former Lima Bypass starting in 2012.

Major I-75 work in Toledo began in 2014 with a two-year reconstruction between I-475 and Dorr Street began. No substantial changes to that part of the freeway were included.

But later that year, work to widen 31 miles of I-75 between Perrysburg and Findlay from four lanes to six got started, and in 2015, reconstruction of I-75's "Jeep Split"  interchange with I-475 and its I-280 interchange in North Toledo, plus widening of the freeway in between, began.

That project's completion in early 2019 slightly overlapped the start of the final two ODOT contracts for I-75 work in the immediate Toledo area. First to start was reconstruction between Dorr Street and South Avenue, which began in late 2018. Then work began in late 2019 on the final stage between South and Glenwood, including the new DiSalle.

The work between Dorr and Glenwood included adding a third through lane between Indiana Avenue and the Anthony Wayne Trail interchange, and a fourth lane across the DiSalle in each direction. The old DiSalle required traffic entering from ramps at either end to merge immediately, with no acceleration lane.

The I-75 campaign's biggest hiccup occurred in 2016, when the discovery of soil problems beneath the junction of I-75 and I-280 prompted the complete shutdown of I-75's northbound lanes for seven months while two bridges within that junction were replaced.

Traffic was diverted south on I-280 to temporary turnaround ramps at Central Avenue, from which it then returned north to rejoin I-75.

The "Jeep Split"  reconstruction had been preceded by work between 2010 and 2013 to widen I-475 from that I-75 junction out to Rushland Avenue, just west of the Douglas Road interchange.

Most of the I-75 widening between Toledo and Findlay was finished in early 2017. The exception was a separate contract to add the new lanes through the city of Findlay and rebuild the massive junction with U.S. 68/State Rt. 15 on Findlay's south side, which was done between 2017 and 2020

[afguy]

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but does ODOT have any long-range plans to widen I-75 between Troy and Findlay? I just find it crazy  that ODOT left this 80 mile gap of I-75 being 4 lanes, while the rest of it is 6 lanes through Ohio.

[Ted$8roadFan]

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but does ODOT have any long-range plans to widen I-75 between Troy and Findlay? I just find it crazy  that ODOT left this 80 mile gap of I-75 being 4 lanes, while the rest of it is 6 lanes through Ohio.

Haven't been on that stretch in years.....have traffic volumes grown that significantly? The Toledo-Findlay widening made sense, as does anything in the Cincinnati area.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but does ODOT have any long-range plans to widen I-75 between Troy and Findlay? I just find it crazy  that ODOT left this 80 mile gap of I-75 being 4 lanes, while the rest of it is 6 lanes through Ohio.

No, they don't. In fact in the press release, reposted above your question, ODOT writes about rebuilding the "Lima bypass" in 2012 (that stayed 2 lanes in each direction).

[seicer]

It still has an acceptable level of service.

[frankenroad]

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but does ODOT have any long-range plans to widen I-75 between Troy and Findlay? I just find it crazy  that ODOT left this 80 mile gap of I-75 being 4 lanes, while the rest of it is 6 lanes through Ohio.

No, they don't. In fact in the press release, reposted above your question, ODOT writes about rebuilding the "Lima bypass" in 2012 (that stayed 2 lanes in each direction).

I do think they were short-sighted when they re-built Lima that they did not make the bridges wide enough to accommodate a third lane of traffic in the future.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

Returning from a state I refuse to name, I saw that ODOT put more Columbus signs along I-75 & US68/Oh 15 around Findley.
There were plenty of "ODOT will be sorry" posts when the signing plans for this interchange first seen five years ago, and they have been proven true.
I'll go a step further. It is time for ODOT to reroute US 23, between Carey and the outskirts of Perrysburg, to current Oh 15 & I-75.
Its time for ODOT to face reality and KISS for drivers coming from Toledo and "that state up north."

(And yes, that goes for Oh 161/OH 37/Oh 16 in Licking County as well. Truncate Oh 16 in Granville, and extend Oh 161 to Coshocton)

[TempoNick]

(And yes, that goes for Oh 161/OH 37/Oh 16 in Licking County as well. Truncate Oh 16 in Granville, and extend Oh 161 to Coshocton)

I do it the other way around. I just make 161 the new 16 east of i-270. A nice Road like that deserves a simple number. 16 can become 916 or whatever else is available

[wanderer2575]

That Toledo Blade article a few posts up forgot to mention the first phase of the Toledo-area I-75 "campaign":  Widening from four lanes to six between I-280 and the OH/MI state line, to match the six lanes in Michigan.  I don't recall when that was done.

[SkyPesos]

(And yes, that goes for Oh 161/OH 37/Oh 16 in Licking County as well. Truncate Oh 16 in Granville, and extend Oh 161 to Coshocton)

I do it the other way around. I just make 161 the new 16 east of i-270. A nice Road like that deserves a simple number. 16 can become 916 or whatever else is available

I've talked about swapping 16 and 161 west of Granville in fictional before, as a way to give this expressway corridor a nice low number.

[The Ghostbuster]

I always thought that the OH 161/37/16 corridor should have one number. The least Ohio can do is number all the exits along the corridor, although I would number the OH 37 West interchange Exit 57 (using 161's mileage) in both directions; the interchange with OH 16 West would be numbered Exit 26 (using OH 16's mileage) in both directions. Numbering either exit with OH 37's mileage would make the situation even more confusing than it already is.

[SkyPesos]

I always thought that the OH 161/37/16 corridor should have one number. The least Ohio can do is number all the exits along the corridor, although I would number the OH 37 West interchange Exit 57 (using 161's mileage) in both directions; the interchange with OH 16 West would be numbered Exit 26 (using OH 16's mileage) in both directions. Numbering either exit with OH 37's mileage would make the situation even more confusing than it already is.

At the bare minimum, OH 161 should be extended along the OH 37 concurrency and end at OH 16, reducing the freeway down from 3 to 2 numbers. But this still leaves the issue of repeating mile markers as OH 161 continues further west than OH 16. Starting at I-270, the exit numbers are in the 40s in New Albany, following OH 161's mileage. But then you'll encounter the same exit numbers range east of Newark, this time with OH 16's mileage.

[TempoNick]

I always thought that the OH 161/37/16 corridor should have one number. The least Ohio can do is number all the exits along the corridor, although I would number the OH 37 West interchange Exit 57 (using 161's mileage) in both directions; the interchange with OH 16 West would be numbered Exit 26 (using OH 16's mileage) in both directions. Numbering either exit with OH 37's mileage would make the situation even more confusing than it already is.

At the bare minimum, OH 161 should be extended along the OH 37 concurrency and end at OH 16, reducing the freeway down from 3 to 2 numbers. But this still leaves the issue of repeating mile markers as OH 161 continues further west than OH 16. Starting at I-270, the exit numbers are in the 40s in New Albany, following OH 161's mileage. But then you'll encounter the same exit numbers range east of Newark, this time with OH 16's mileage.

Just picture this from I-270 as your vantage point. Going east the road would be 16 all the way to US-36 in Coshocton; Going west, it would still be 161. Broad Street would become Ohio 916 from downtown Columbus to where it meets with Ohio 16. Or find some other number for it.

[jt4]

I'll go a step further. It is time for ODOT to reroute US 23, between Carey and the outskirts of Perrysburg, to current Oh 15 & I-75.
Its time for ODOT to face reality and KISS for drivers coming from Toledo and "that state up north."

I think rerouting has been rendered mostly unnecessary, unless to move to a freeway specifically designed parallel to the US route. I don't think US-23 is close enough to I-75 to move the route 12 miles west. Most people driving from Toledo to Columbus won't think about the fact it would be 23 the whole way - since the first part is an interstate, they would think I-75 to US-23 (which is almost what it is now).

If anything, I think it's more reasonable to upgrade US-23 (and/or OH-15) to full Interstate standards and designate it as I-73. (Though I don't think the I-73 is strictly necessary.) Short of that, the least they could do would be to make Columbus the control city for the OH-15 exit.

[The Ghostbuster]

Upgrading OH 15 to freeway standards is a good idea. They would have to eliminate nine at-grade intersections and two driveways to make the conversion. I'm not sure if any additional interchanges would be necessary along the corridor.

[sprjus4]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kwECCnjsrvmKbV9Q8?g_st=ic

Columbus is now a cardinal direction.

[Rothman]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kwECCnjsrvmKbV9Q8?g_st=ic

Columbus is now a cardinal direction.

Huh.  That's unique.

[seicer]

That was a more recent addition.

Why they can't just include it below... or on guide signs along OH 15. Mapping programs tend to detour Columbus-bound traffic to US 68-US 33 despite OH 15/US 23 being the marginally faster route.

[wanderer2575]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kwECCnjsrvmKbV9Q8?g_st=ic

Columbus is now a cardinal direction.

Only on this sign at the exit point.  Not (yet) on the 1-mile and 1/2-mile advance signs.

There also is this exit arrow / supplemental guide combination sign, both referencing the same exit:  https://goo.gl/maps/qdA624ViAfksbjEv8.  Has ODOT (Ohio) contracted out to ODOT (Oklahoma)?

[vtk]

I would favor moving US 23 through Finlay instead of Fostoria. Extend US 223 via I-475 east and I-280, taking over OH 420 and old US 23 to Carey.

As for 161/37/16, I would favor a more ambitious change: Make the third incarnation of OH 1 run from Columbus to Steubenville via New Albany, Newark, Coshocton, Denison, and Cadiz.

But ODOT isn't likely to do any of this, and this isn't the fiction board.

[TempoNick]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kwECCnjsrvmKbV9Q8?g_st=ic

Columbus is now a cardinal direction.

I saw that a few months ago. That's a very half-ass way to do things.

[SkyPesos]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kwECCnjsrvmKbV9Q8?g_st=ic

Columbus is now a cardinal direction.

I saw that a few months ago. That's a very half-ass way to do things.

Not the only time in recent years where OhioDOT half-assed a BGS display. They also didn't bother with an OH 10 shield in the Opportunity Corridor exit BGS from I-77, and just added it on top of it. I would get why if it was on top of an old BGS, but this whole thing is a new installment.

(Side note, why is the I-490 in Series B? Thought ODOT stopped using Series B for 3dis in favor of Series C several years ago)