There is a thread for every other Big Four sport (Hockey, baseball, [American] football), even [association] football has one, but there is no thread about basketball. So here is one. Basketball seems to be the only Big Four sport that is popular in both sides of the pond. Every season I watch a game of my hometown team, but that basketball is different from NBA one, which might dominate this thread.
Some days ago they postponed the game that was going to be played in Mexico City due to smoke. Since this was the Spurs @ Timberwolves, it will be played in Minneapolis at a later date.
Oh, and the Gasol brothers aren't American, they are Spanish, exactly from Barcelona metropolitan area.
Well let's see, I follow Basketball (NBA) as my second sport, with Football (NFL) being the first. That being said...
I think it's interesting to see how Chicago will go on this season without Derrick Rose. (again) Even though this injury wasn't as bad as the ACL injury 2-3 years ago, it still will affect him coming back and being the allstar point guard he was in his rookie year. I wonder how Chicago is going to let this play - still push for the playoffs, or concede and try and rebuild the team?
Now, as a Lakers fan, I'm ecstatic seeing Kobe Bryant coming back to play on Sunday. Granted, it will be a limited appearance, but seeing as he recovered from his Achilles injury on a pace that no-one expected, it will be interesting to see how he contributes to the team. Although, I'll be honest, I'm not sure of what the Lakers are going to be able to do in terms of making it to the playoffs this season. With Kobe back, unless he goes all-out to carry his team to the playoffs (unlikely considering he'll still be recovering from the injury), I can't see us winning him another ring. Sorry Kobe.
Also on my mind is Indy-effing-anna. 17-2. Nice to see a team that isn't the Heat atop the eastern conference.
Here's a question:
Why are the scores always so close? For example, one game might have the final score be 89 to 91.
Quote from: 1 on December 07, 2013, 07:31:23 PM
Here's a question:
Why are the scores always so close? For example, one game might have the final score be 89 to 91.
Because you can score points
much faster, especially if both teams are making a high percentage of their shots. That's why the last minute of a game seems to take forever. Remember, scoring in basketball is in 1s, 2s, and 3s, and not the 3s and 7s of football.
Basketball gets briefly exciting in early to mid March.
Quote from: Steve on December 08, 2013, 12:38:36 PM
Basketball gets briefly exciting in early to mid March.
Agreed. IMO, the NBA season is way too long. The only basketball I come close to following is NCAA.
Quote from: DaBigE on December 08, 2013, 03:32:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on December 08, 2013, 12:38:36 PM
Basketball gets briefly exciting in early to mid March.
Agreed. IMO, the NBA season is way too long. The only basketball I come close to following is NCAA.
That, and the NBA isn't remotely interesting to watch. Just check out the top 10 plays on ESPN and you'll get your dunk fix.
Quote from: DaBigE on December 08, 2013, 03:32:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on December 08, 2013, 12:38:36 PM
Basketball gets briefly exciting in early to mid March.
Agreed. IMO, the NBA season is way too long. The only basketball I come close to following is NCAA.
What about games of some minors leagues like NBA D-league, ABA, PBL etc...?
Here's the reason why I think it's not interesting:
In baseball, football, hockey, and soccer, scoring is rare, and everyone cheers when the team scores.
In basketball, points are gained about once per minute, and it's the same thing over and over. No special things happen.
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on December 09, 2013, 10:37:29 AM
Quote from: DaBigE on December 08, 2013, 03:32:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on December 08, 2013, 12:38:36 PM
Basketball gets briefly exciting in early to mid March.
Agreed. IMO, the NBA season is way too long. The only basketball I come close to following is NCAA.
What about games of some minors leagues like NBA D-league, ABA, PBL etc...?
Since they're not carried on major networks and rarely ever mentioned on the local news, they don't bother me. Also for the fact that many of those players aren't nearly as over-paid and whiny as the NBA show-offs.
Basketball was always my favorite sport growing up, but that's been overtaken by football. I still love to watch college basketball, especially come tournament time. I can't hardly bear to watch the NBA, however. Maybe it's the whiney players complaining at every call, the boring isolation plays, or the fact that my hometown team, the Bucks, have literally sucked for years. I do remember as a kid though, when the Bucks were one of the best teams during the 80's, and they traded away my favorite player, Terry Cummings, and I started crying like it was the end of the world. Maybe it was because I realized it was the beginning of the end of good Bucks teams. As far as college goes, I'm a huge fan of Wisconsin and Marquette. When they play their annual rivalry game, I don't care who wins as long as it's a good game.
Canada will get another basketball league. https://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/mike-morreale-q-a-1.5258105
Some posters on the Skyscraperpage forums talk of this league and the future of the NBLC (National Basketball League of Canada) with ones of these 2 leagues folding or a possible merger of these leagues.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=236703&page=8
Then it can get very ugly, Fight between KU and KSU: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-basketball-fight-vs-kansas-state-brawl-breaks-out-at-end-of-jayhawks-victory-vs-wildcats/
Quote from: Big John on January 21, 2020, 10:17:58 PM
Then it can get very ugly, Fight between KU and KSU: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/kansas-basketball-fight-vs-kansas-state-brawl-breaks-out-at-end-of-jayhawks-victory-vs-wildcats/
and they had to bring out players to "finish the game" when there was clearly no time left. Gambling FTL.
What's a professional basketball team? Asking as a Bulls fan who hasn't had one since the 2010-11 season
Wow it's interesting to see that Fox Sports uses the Old NBA on NBC theme for College Basketball. I always think of Olympic Basketball playoffs and NBA Finals when I hear this song.
The original edition of Roundball Rock
I was always partial to the one where the little lasers cut out the NBC logo at the beginning, which starts at 1:13.
That song's title is Roundball Rock, and it was composed by the great John Tesh. FWIW, I think of the Bulls' two championship runs in the 90s whenever I hear it.
Also, the 2020 All-Star Game is in Chicago, so I'm excited to see the game being played in my hometown after 32 years!
Quote from: Henry on February 05, 2020, 10:26:53 AM
That song's title is Roundball Rock, and it was composed by the great John Tesh. FWIW, I think of the Bulls' two championship runs in the 90s whenever I hear it.
Also, the 2020 All-Star Game is in Chicago, so I'm excited to see the game being played in my hometown after 32 years!
Same here and I think of the Olympics and the early 2000's Lakers too whenever I hear roundball rock used in both NBA games and Olympic basketball games on NBC.
But then again everyone that's watching college basketball games on Fox or in the stadium was most likely not even born yet when the NBA finals were on NBC Sports. This current audience associate Roundball Rock for College Basketball playoffs.
Quote from: Henry on February 05, 2020, 10:26:53 AM
That song's title is Roundball Rock, and it was composed by the great John Tesh. FWIW, I think of the Bulls' two championship runs in the 90s whenever I hear it.
Also, the 2020 All-Star Game is in Chicago, so I'm excited to see the game being played in my hometown after 32 years!
Here's Tesh playing the song in concert. Incidentally, he also mentions the Bulls.
Personally, the 90s gave us two of the best basketball themes ever recorded, the aforementioned Roundball Rock and this gem from CBS College Basketball:
Of course, being a UCLA alum, my favorite memory from that decade is when the Bruins won the national championship (and this year is the 25th anniversary of that event).
How would you feel about the NBA shortening its season and adding a midseason tournament? Adam Silver is apparently pushing for it.
Quote from: Henry on February 20, 2020, 10:26:01 AM
How would you feel about the NBA shortening its season and adding a midseason tournament? Adam Silver is apparently pushing for it.
Sounds interesting on paper but I would like to see that in Practice. Also the NBA has to consider how many of their coaches and players will show up on the Olympic basketball this year though.
College basketball officiating is terrible. Prove me wrong.
While I'm so happy that Seattle is getting a new NHL franchise, I'm still holding out hope that the Sonics will return in one form or another. Unfortunately, it'll most likely be an expansion team, and one more team will have to be added to balance out the league. FWIW, I prefer even-numbered leagues over odd-numbered ones, and this is coming from a longtime Bulls fan who saw his team win all six championships in a time when the league had 27/29 teams!
How many people actually watch the Fiba games
Here is one but its in a nearly empty stadium though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4keeEtz54HM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4keeEtz54HM)
Quote from: Henry on February 06, 2020, 09:47:22 AM
Of course, being a UCLA alum, my favorite memory from that decade is when the Bruins won the national championship (and this year is the 25th anniversary of that event).
Still convinced that if Tyus Edney doesn't hit that shot against Mizzou, UConn would've run away with the national championship, and completed the whole mens/womens co-national championship thing 9 years before they did. Instead, we got beat in a track meet in Oakland.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2020/03/06/ncaa-hoops-game-in-baltimore-held-in-empty-gym-for-covid-19/111400308/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2020/03/06/ncaa-hoops-game-in-baltimore-held-in-empty-gym-for-covid-19/111400308/)
Now the COVID-19 affects NCAA games now that a game will be played in an empty stadium.
And it will now be a very different March Madness this year.
ESPN: NCAA tournament will be played without fans (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans)
EDIT: A preview of the above will now occur with several major conference basketball tournaments going fanless as well.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28886504/major-conference-tournaments-proceed-fans
The NBA is suspending all games.
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1237914830356578305/photo/1
In case you're curious what Rudy Gobert (the Jazz player who tested positive) has been up to in the past few days...
https://twitter.com/Davefox2/status/1237906382193438720
The ACC has cancelled the remainder of the basketball tournament.
https://theacc.com/news/2020/3/12/statement-from-acc-on-mens-basketball-tournament.aspx (https://theacc.com/news/2020/3/12/statement-from-acc-on-mens-basketball-tournament.aspx)
https://www.fox13now.com/news/national/coronavirus/donovan-mitchell-second-utah-jazz-player-tests-positive-for-covid-19 (https://www.fox13now.com/news/national/coronavirus/donovan-mitchell-second-utah-jazz-player-tests-positive-for-covid-19)
Update a second Utah Jazz Player has been tested positive for COVID-19.
Duke has cancelled all spring sports going forward, which means they would not participate in the NCAA Tournament. However, Duke's athletic director also participates on the NCAA committee that runs the tournament. Got to think he already knows what's coming. If there's any school that won't suspend basketball if it's possible to play, Duke is high on that list.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 12, 2020, 02:51:09 PM
Duke has cancelled all spring sports going forward, which means they would not participate in the NCAA Tournament. However, Duke's athletic director also participates on the NCAA committee that runs the tournament. Got to think he already knows what's coming. If there's any school that won't suspend basketball if it's possible to play, Duke is high on that list.
Kansas did pretty much the same thing, but didn't rule out playing in the NCAA tournament.
Doesn't matter now. NCAA Tournament cancelled.
I hope Capital One posts their ads online. Their March Madness ads are funny.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-03-12/ncaa-cancels-remaining-2020-winter-and-spring-championships?utm_campaign=inline-article (https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-03-12/ncaa-cancels-remaining-2020-winter-and-spring-championships?utm_campaign=inline-article)
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/03/14/pistons-christian-wood-reportedly-tests-positive-coronavirus/5052641002/
Update the Detroit Pistons has a player who is reportedly tested positive for COVID-19.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-and-the-nba-child-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-getting-autographs-at-jazz-vs-celtics-game/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-and-the-nba-child-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-getting-autographs-at-jazz-vs-celtics-game/)
Now a fan who went to a NBA game is reportedly tested positive for COVID-19
Ordered pizza last weekend and the box sadly proclaimed Pizza Hut's marquee sponsorship of the tourney still.
I can't say for certain, but I'm pretty sure the Milwaukee Bucks have been screwed out of a championship by this goddamn virus.
I suppose it's still in the cards next season, but if you'll forgive the pun, it was at least a lay-up this year, if not a slam dunk.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 27, 2020, 11:10:10 AM
College basketball officiating is terrible. Prove me wrong.
I have a relatively recent championship game I am thinking of that indelibly supports this thesis.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on March 20, 2020, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 27, 2020, 11:10:10 AM
College basketball officiating is terrible. Prove me wrong.
I have a relatively recent championship game I am thinking of that indelibly supports this thesis.
Did the losing team in that championship game knock an unbeaten team out in the semis?
It's a given that any time you go up against Duke, you're playing against eight.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on March 20, 2020, 09:06:04 PM
Ordered pizza last weekend and the box sadly proclaimed Pizza Hut's marquee sponsorship of the tourney still.
I can't say for certain, but I'm pretty sure the Milwaukee Bucks have been screwed out of a championship by this goddamn virus.
I suppose it's still in the cards next season, but if you'll forgive the pun, it was at least a lay-up this year, if not a slam dunk.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 27, 2020, 11:10:10 AM
College basketball officiating is terrible. Prove me wrong.
I have a relatively recent championship game I am thinking of that indelibly supports this thesis.
I think that's what I'm most disappointed by sports wise with the whole COVID-19 situation, is the Bucks potentially missing out on a championship. Who knows if they'll be this good again next year if this season never resumes? That and not being able to see what teams like the Badgers might have been able to do in the tournament. Who knows, maybe they could've exacted revenge for that loss to Duke 5 years ago! :D
I have a bad feeling that the NBA will have no choice but to cancel the season altogether, and start from scratch next fall. As much as I would've loved to see LeBron James win a championship with the Lakers in the year they mourned the death of Kobe Bryant, that will have to wait at least another year (but he will definitely get there because it's L.A.).
Quote from: Henry on April 13, 2020, 09:45:46 AM
I have a bad feeling that the NBA will have no choice but to cancel the season altogether, and start from scratch next fall. As much as I would've loved to see LeBron James win a championship with the Lakers in the year they mourned the death of Kobe Bryant, that will have to wait at least another year (but he will definitely get there because it's L.A.).
There's been rumors about the NBA starting next season later than normal, with the first games being on Christmas Day (there is precedent for this; the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season started on Christmas Day and played a 66-game schedule, which also led into an Olympic year)
Quote from: ftballfan on April 13, 2020, 10:48:30 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 13, 2020, 09:45:46 AM
I have a bad feeling that the NBA will have no choice but to cancel the season altogether, and start from scratch next fall. As much as I would've loved to see LeBron James win a championship with the Lakers in the year they mourned the death of Kobe Bryant, that will have to wait at least another year (but he will definitely get there because it's L.A.).
There's been rumors about the NBA starting next season later than normal, with the first games being on Christmas Day (there is precedent for this; the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season started on Christmas Day and played a 66-game schedule, which also led into an Olympic year)
I heard that they are willing to play playoff games through the summer.
Wut:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-state-basketball-team-msu-spartans-presented-by-rocket-mortgage-223057968.html
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31044751/duke-acc-tournament-positive-covid-test-team
yikes
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2021, 10:38:50 PM
Wut:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-state-basketball-team-msu-spartans-presented-by-rocket-mortgage-223057968.html
:ded:
And the announcers have to say the full name, where no one has to.
I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for Duke. They cower out of their nonconference games because they can't handle a rough start to the season, then their lying about the opt-out being Covid-related bites them in the back when Covid actually ends their season. I don't by any means like to see people get sick, but as far as basketball goes, good riddance from the tournament for the NCAA.
Quote from: thspfc on March 12, 2021, 08:32:22 PM
I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for Duke. They cower out of their nonconference games because they can't handle a rough start to the season, then their lying about the opt-out being Covid-related bites them in the back when Covid actually ends their season. I don't by any means like to see people get sick, but as far as basketball goes, good riddance from the tournament for the NCAA.
I'm going to guess that it was a false-positive rapid test.
Quote from: thspfc on March 12, 2021, 08:32:22 PM
I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for Duke. They cower out of their nonconference games because they can't handle a rough start to the season, then their lying about the opt-out being Covid-related bites them in the back when Covid actually ends their season. I don't by any means like to see people get sick, but as far as basketball goes, good riddance from the tournament for the NCAA.
FWIW, the Duke women's basketball team pulled the plug on this season in December, much earlier than the men's team. Covid-19 concerns (including some canceled games) were the stated reason, but was clear early on that this was going to be just a rebuilding year for the women's team under a new head coach.
The NCAA has released the 68-team field for the Division I men's tournament. Undefeated Gonzaga is the overall #1 seed. The tournament brackets look much like any other year, but there are some changes:
1) The biggest change is that, due to COVID, the entire tournament is being played in Indiana, though the four regions are still being given their traditional North, Midwest, South and West names. In addition to basketball venues you are more likely familiar with, Hinkle Fieldhouse and Indiana Farmers Coliseum, the Indianapolis home arenas of Butler and IUPUI respectively, will be hosting early round games.
2) If any team has to withdraw from the tournament on or before Tuesday due to COVID, there are "waitlisted" teams on standby to take their place in the bracket. As of now, all but one (Ivy League, who did not play a season) conference is represented in the tournament. If any team has to withdraw after Tuesday, there will be no replacement and the scheduled opponent will advance automatically.
3) The opening weekend of the tournament has been pushed back a day, with the first round games now on Friday-Saturday instead of Thursday-Friday. The second weekend of the tournament has been pushed back two days, with Sweet 16 games now Saturday-Sunday instead of Thursday-Friday. The Final Four, which was already scheduled for Lucas Oil Stadium, retains its Saturday-Monday format. I actually think this should be a permanent change and not just a temporary COVID change. Makes sense to have more games on the weekends.
4) Fan attendance will be limited to 25% capacity. I actually had a pair of Final Four tickets and was planning on taking my son to our first ever tournament games, but I was part of the 75% who received refunds instead of tickets.
How's this for more unusual sports deals? Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Tournament for the first time and heads for the NCAA's. Duke is not in the field. Talk about reversals of form!
Rick
Well, at least we'll have it back after a year out of action.
So this means that UVA will still be the defending champions, as they won in 2019?
Quote from: Henry on March 16, 2021, 03:20:58 PM
Well, at least we'll have it back after a year out of action.
So this means that UVA will still be the defending champions, as they won in 2019?
Yes, that's correct.
Hope you didn't start VCU. Got screwed with a cancelled game.
Quote from: Big John on March 11, 2021, 10:48:45 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2021, 10:38:50 PM
Wut:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-state-basketball-team-msu-spartans-presented-by-rocket-mortgage-223057968.html
:ded:
And the announcers have to say the full name, where no one has to.
I was thinking that maybe this would be better if the team and the company were basically the same thing.
Colgate sponsored by Colgate
Purdue sponsored by Perdue Chicken
Oral Roberts sponsored by Oral B
NC A&T (women's) sponsored by AT&T
Liberty sponsored by Liberty Mutual
Quote from: 1 on March 21, 2021, 08:51:32 AM
Quote from: Big John on March 11, 2021, 10:48:45 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 11, 2021, 10:38:50 PM
Wut:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-state-basketball-team-msu-spartans-presented-by-rocket-mortgage-223057968.html
:ded:
And the announcers have to say the full name, where no one has to.
I was thinking that maybe this would be better if the team and the company were basically the same thing.
Colgate sponsored by Colgate
Purdue sponsored by Perdue Chicken
Oral Roberts sponsored by Oral B
NC A&T (women's) sponsored by AT&T
Liberty sponsored by Liberty Mutual
Gonzaga sponsored by Salemville Gorgonzola Cheese
UConn sponsored by the GMC Yukon
High Point sponsored by Carson's of High Point
Syracuse Orange sponsored by Orange Crush
Hartford sponsored by The Hartford
Iona sponsored by ION Television
Elgin Baylor, one of the Laker greats from the 60s, has passed away:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31114563/los-angeles-lakers-star-former-la-clippers-exec-elgin-baylor-dies-86
Is there a way to create a balanced game between men's teams and women's teams, maybe by having a different number of players on each side? (For minor adjustments after determining the number of players, there would be a point handicap.)
Quote from: 1 on March 23, 2021, 09:48:34 PM
Is there a way to create a balanced game between men's teams and women's teams, maybe by having a different number of players on each side? (For minor adjustments after determining the number of players, there would be a point handicap.)
Ban dunking :)
UConn women can probably beat a few mens teams.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 23, 2021, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 23, 2021, 09:48:34 PM
Is there a way to create a balanced game between men's teams and women's teams, maybe by having a different number of players on each side? (For minor adjustments after determining the number of players, there would be a point handicap.)
Ban dunking :)
UConn women can probably beat a few mens teams.
Or instead of just banning dunking implement an equivalent to the high stick rule, where now you can't touch the ball in any circumstance once it's at or above rim level. Because I know that if you just ban dunking they're going to just dunk it without touching the rim and it'll be legal (based on the logic that dunking is not allowed in warmups but if you don't grab rim the refs won't do anything).
Quote from: I-55 on March 24, 2021, 04:20:29 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 23, 2021, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 23, 2021, 09:48:34 PM
Is there a way to create a balanced game between men's teams and women's teams, maybe by having a different number of players on each side? (For minor adjustments after determining the number of players, there would be a point handicap.)
Ban dunking :)
UConn women can probably beat a few mens teams.
Or instead of just banning dunking implement an equivalent to the high stick rule, where now you can't touch the ball in any circumstance once it's at or above rim level. Because I know that if you just ban dunking they're going to just dunk it without touching the rim and it'll be legal (based on the logic that dunking is not allowed in warmups but if you don't grab rim the refs won't do anything).
I remember when dunking was not permitted at the HS or college levels. It came back during the 70s.
UNC head coach Roy Williams is calling it quits.
https://wr.al/1KGHC (https://wr.al/1KGHC)
Quote from: 1 on March 23, 2021, 09:48:34 PM
Is there a way to create a balanced game between men's teams and women's teams, maybe by having a different number of players on each side? (For minor adjustments after determining the number of players, there would be a point handicap.)
Spurs assistant Becky Hammon, who would probably have as good a perspective on that issue as anyone, has said there is not a way.
Back in the spring of 1973, our high school had a demo game between five girls facing off against two boys who were basketball players. They were not the best two we had but this pair was good enough to slaughter that quintet of girls on the court. In the girls' defense, there was no basketball team for them at that time so they had no concept of the fundamentals. Had this been a team of five experienced girls who knew how to pass the ball to the open player, they should be able to beat two equally experienced boys.
Rick
I don't know if this is still the case, but the Tennessee women's team used to scrimmage against men in practice. These were Tennessee students who all played in high school, but weren't good enough to get DI scholarships. They were described as being better than any team that the women's team would play during their season.
From that I think we can extrapolate that the worst DI men's team could beat the best DI women's team.
Anyone watch the crazy March Madness game yesterday?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 04, 2021, 12:10:45 PM
Anyone watch the crazy March Madness game yesterday?
The TV Ratings data is not out yet, but I'm sure there were just a couple of people watching the UCLA-Gonzaga OT thriller last night
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 04, 2021, 12:07:07 PM
I don't know if this is still the case, but the Tennessee women's team used to scrimmage against men in practice. These were Tennessee students who all played in high school, but weren't good enough to get DI scholarships. They were described as being better than any team that the women's team would play during their season.
From that I think we can extrapolate that the worst DI men's team could beat the best DI women's team.
The Duke women's team used to do the same.
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 04, 2021, 12:07:07 PM
I don't know if this is still the case, but the Tennessee women's team used to scrimmage against men in practice. These were Tennessee students who all played in high school, but weren't good enough to get DI scholarships. They were described as being better than any team that the women's team would play during their season.
From that I think we can extrapolate that the worst DI men's team could beat the best DI women's team.
I thought that was a common practice for college women's teams in general. I can't tell you whether that means a bad men's team would beat a good women's team.
Quote from: LM117 on April 01, 2021, 01:34:26 PM
UNC head coach Roy Williams is calling it quits.
https://wr.al/1KGHC (https://wr.al/1KGHC)
Hubert Davis is the new coach.
https://wr.al/1KHpF (https://wr.al/1KHpF)
So, the last 3 teams to enter the Final Four undefeated, 2021 Gonzaga, 2015 Kentucky and 1991 UNLV all lost, and all of them did it in Indianapolis.
Sorry Gonzaga fans, as a Patriots fan I know how it feels.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 06, 2021, 09:43:27 AM
Sorry Gonzaga fans, as a Patriots fan I know how it feels.
Do you though? It's not like Gonzaga has actually won a championship before.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2021, 09:59:18 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 06, 2021, 09:43:27 AM
Sorry Gonzaga fans, as a Patriots fan I know how it feels.
Do you though? It's not like Gonzaga has actually won a championship before.
Maybe, more talking about the undefeated season thing.
I still can't believe they haven't won a championship. Gonzaga is probably the first thing that comes to my mind when it comes to good college basketball teams. besides Duke of course :D
Also, I'm proud that the Jackson State Lady Tigers made the tournament even though we got knocked out the first round. It was our first appearance since 2008, and before that 1995.
Well, at least my Bruins were pretty good for a change, getting as far as the Final Four before losing to Gonzaga.
Congrats to Baylor for winning its first-ever men's basketball championship!
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 06, 2021, 09:43:27 AM
Sorry Gonzaga fans, as a Patriots fan I know how it feels.
Gonzaga doesn't cheat.
Gonzaga is just a northwestern version of Wichita State with a little more staying power in terms of relevancy.
Saw lots of folks commenting on their schedule and how they got to be undefeated by not really playing anyone. Not sure whether that's true or not, but it's reminiscent of when undefeated Wichita State lost to eighth-seeded Kentucky several years ago.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 06, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
Gonzaga is just a northwestern version of Wichita State with a little more staying power in terms of relevancy.
Saw lots of folks commenting on their schedule and how they got to be undefeated by not really playing anyone. Not sure whether that's true or not, but it's reminiscent of when undefeated Wichita State lost to eighth-seeded Kentucky several years ago.
Gonzaga usually loads up their nonconference schedule to compensate for being in such a weak conference. A lot of nonconference games got cut this year, but they still managed to play (and of course, beat) Kansas, West Virginia, Iowa and Virginia.
Butler, Witchita State and Loyola all played sustained tournament success into a step up to a better conference. That may not be possible for Gonzaga given their location.
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 06, 2021, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 06, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
Gonzaga is just a northwestern version of Wichita State with a little more staying power in terms of relevancy.
Saw lots of folks commenting on their schedule and how they got to be undefeated by not really playing anyone. Not sure whether that's true or not, but it's reminiscent of when undefeated Wichita State lost to eighth-seeded Kentucky several years ago.
Gonzaga usually loads up their nonconference schedule to compensate for being in such a weak conference. A lot of nonconference games got cut this year, but they still managed to play (and of course, beat) Kansas, West Virginia, Iowa and Virginia.
Butler, Witchita State and Loyola all played sustained tournament success into a step up to a better conference. That may not be possible for Gonzaga given their location.
If the Mountain West allows basketball only members, Gonzaga could foreseeably provide a boost to their status as a conference. The Mountain West typically lands 1-2 at large bids, and the addition of a good basketball program could easily increase that along with their conference strength of schedule. Meanwhile Gonzaga being in a slightly more major conference would give them better competition in January and February before the tournament.
https://www.wkyt.com/2021/04/23/sources-uk-mens-basketball-player-terrence-clarke-dies-in-los-angeles/
awful news :(
Quote from: I-55 on April 07, 2021, 01:21:00 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 06, 2021, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 06, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
Gonzaga is just a northwestern version of Wichita State with a little more staying power in terms of relevancy.
Saw lots of folks commenting on their schedule and how they got to be undefeated by not really playing anyone. Not sure whether that's true or not, but it's reminiscent of when undefeated Wichita State lost to eighth-seeded Kentucky several years ago.
Gonzaga usually loads up their nonconference schedule to compensate for being in such a weak conference. A lot of nonconference games got cut this year, but they still managed to play (and of course, beat) Kansas, West Virginia, Iowa and Virginia.
Butler, Witchita State and Loyola all played sustained tournament success into a step up to a better conference. That may not be possible for Gonzaga given their location.
If the Mountain West allows basketball only members, Gonzaga could foreseeably provide a boost to their status as a conference. The Mountain West typically lands 1-2 at large bids, and the addition of a good basketball program could easily increase that along with their conference strength of schedule. Meanwhile Gonzaga being in a slightly more major conference would give them better competition in January and February before the tournament.
If Gonzaga was in the Pac-12, they would have won most all conference and tournament titles over the last several years.
Rick
We all thought the play-in series would be a one-time only thing for the NBA (which is inspired in part by the NCAA's play-in games before the March Madness tournament), but given its success in last year's bubble, it's being implemented again this season and will apparently become permanent in future seasons. I, for one, am cool with two more teams being given a chance to get into the 16-team playoff field, but not too sure on other's thoughts on this (I hear Stephen A. Smith isn't a fan of it).
Quote from: Henry on April 26, 2021, 11:09:21 AM
We all thought the play-in series would be a one-time only thing for the NBA (which is inspired in part by the NCAA's play-in games before the March Madness tournament), but given its success in last year's bubble, it's being implemented again this season and will apparently become permanent in future seasons. I, for one, am cool with two more teams being given a chance to get into the 16-team playoff field, but not too sure on other's thoughts on this (I hear Stephen A. Smith isn't a fan of it).
It makes the season more exciting for mediocre teams, but there have been some truly awful 10 seeds (especially in the east).
Quote from: Henry on April 26, 2021, 11:09:21 AM
We all thought the play-in series would be a one-time only thing for the NBA (which is inspired in part by the NCAA's play-in games before the March Madness tournament), but given its success in last year's bubble, it's being implemented again this season and will apparently become permanent in future seasons. I, for one, am cool with two more teams being given a chance to get into the 16-team playoff field, but not too sure on other's thoughts on this (I hear Stephen A. Smith isn't a fan of it).
Anything Stephen A. doesn't like is good.
Celtics win today! Have been very disappointed by them but glad to get the win.
Bulls have been 10x more fun to watch, but they have been kinda dead since the trade deadline. I'm looking forward to next season, first time I can say that in almost 10 years
Quote from: ET21 on April 30, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Bulls have been 10x more fun to watch, but they have been kinda dead since the trade deadline. I'm looking forward to next season, first time I can say that in almost 10 years
Bulls and Lightning fan?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 30, 2021, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: ET21 on April 30, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Bulls have been 10x more fun to watch, but they have been kinda dead since the trade deadline. I'm looking forward to next season, first time I can say that in almost 10 years
Bulls and Lightning fan?
Chicago native, so all the Chi teams minus the Cubs plus TB
Quote from: ET21 on May 01, 2021, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 30, 2021, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: ET21 on April 30, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Bulls have been 10x more fun to watch, but they have been kinda dead since the trade deadline. I'm looking forward to next season, first time I can say that in almost 10 years
Bulls and Lightning fan?
Chicago native, so all the Chi teams minus the Cubs plus TB
Blackhawks or Lightning?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 01, 2021, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: ET21 on May 01, 2021, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 30, 2021, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: ET21 on April 30, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Bulls have been 10x more fun to watch, but they have been kinda dead since the trade deadline. I'm looking forward to next season, first time I can say that in almost 10 years
Bulls and Lightning fan?
Chicago native, so all the Chi teams minus the Cubs plus TB
Blackhawks or Lightning?
Both
Quote from: ET21 on May 01, 2021, 10:58:13 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 01, 2021, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: ET21 on May 01, 2021, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 30, 2021, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: ET21 on April 30, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Bulls have been 10x more fun to watch, but they have been kinda dead since the trade deadline. I'm looking forward to next season, first time I can say that in almost 10 years
Bulls and Lightning fan?
Chicago native, so all the Chi teams minus the Cubs plus TB
Blackhawks or Lightning?
Both
The 2015 Stanley cup finals must have been awkward...
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 01, 2021, 11:24:38 PM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 30, 2021, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: ET21 on April 30, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Bulls have been 10x more fun to watch, but they have been kinda dead since the trade deadline. I'm looking forward to next season, first time I can say that in almost 10 years
Bulls and Lightning fan?
Chicago native, so all the Chi teams minus the Cubs plus TB
Blackhawks or Lightning?
Both
The 2015 Stanley cup finals must have been awkward...
Nahh it was very fun
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31389569/sources-los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-expected-miss-back-back-games-clippers-blazers-rest-ankle
Father time might finally be catching up with Lebron.
Sunday is the last day of the regular season, and then the playoffs begin two days later with the play-in tournament.
There's lots of discussion about LeBron vs. Jordan, and LeBron is somewhat of a lightning rod for non-sports comments.
I just wonder how he would have fared against the Bad Boy Pistons? Jordan just went to work harder. Bill Laimbeer would have have had LeBron crying for his mommy.
Are the Knicks for real this year?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 10, 2021, 04:34:58 PM
Are the Knicks for real this year?
They're for real gonna make the playoffs, but they're not contenders yet. They have gotten here with a pretty healthy lineup, while a lot of other contenders hovering several games over .500 are getting some key players back this week. The Knicks have to be this good with injuries to be elite without them.
Go Celtics! Hopefully, they can win 1 game verse the Nets...
Coach K is retiring from Duke following this coming season. He will be replaced by current Duke assistant coach Jon Scheyer.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1400135966619209729
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1400183710931095560
Brad Stevens is being promoted to president of basketball ops of the Celtics and Danny Ainge is retiring.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31552637/boston-celtics-president-danny-ainge-step-brad-stevens-moving-front-office
There's a rumor going around that Alex Rodriguez, ex-Mariners shortstop, will move the Timberwolves to Seattle, where they'd become the "new" Sonics. But that may not come to pass as the current owner (Glen Taylor) wants to keep it in the Twin Cities, which was his original intention when he bought it at a time when they were rumored to move to New Orleans (which got a new team anyway).
This Mavericks-Clippers series is something else. The road team is 6-0 for the first time in NBA history!
Quote from: webny99 on June 05, 2021, 11:16:58 AM
This Mavericks-Clippers series is something else. The road team is 6-0 for the first time in NBA history!
Ballmer trying to flood Staples Center right now.
This tweet sums up everything that is wrong with the NBA.
https://twitter.com/maxkellerman/status/1400650499691626496
Quote from: US 89 on June 05, 2021, 03:50:59 PM
This tweet sums up everything that is wrong with the NBA.
https://twitter.com/maxkellerman/status/1400650499691626496
I hate big market bias
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 05, 2021, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: US 89 on June 05, 2021, 03:50:59 PM
This tweet sums up everything that is wrong with the NBA.
https://twitter.com/maxkellerman/status/1400650499691626496
I hate big market bias
I wonder why they dislike smaller markets? Smaller markets can have the image of the "little guy" or "underdog" or "Cinderella team" if it's well carefully marketed.
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 05, 2021, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 05, 2021, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: US 89 on June 05, 2021, 03:50:59 PM
This tweet sums up everything that is wrong with the NBA.
https://twitter.com/maxkellerman/status/1400650499691626496
I hate big market bias
I wonder why they dislike smaller markets? Smaller markets can have the image of the "little guy" or "underdog" or "Cinderella team" if it's well carefully marketed.
Not as much money from the home market of the teams.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 05, 2021, 05:02:38 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 05, 2021, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 05, 2021, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: US 89 on June 05, 2021, 03:50:59 PM
This tweet sums up everything that is wrong with the NBA.
https://twitter.com/maxkellerman/status/1400650499691626496
I hate big market bias
I wonder why they dislike smaller markets? Smaller markets can have the image of the "little guy" or "underdog" or "Cinderella team" if it's well carefully marketed.
Not as much money from the home market of the teams.
Yeah but on the other hand, Utah, Phoenix, Memphis, Denver, the Nets who still haven't won a NBA championship (althought the Nets had won 2 ABA championships before the ABA-NBA merger) and teams like Milwaukee and the NY Knicks who hadn't won a championship since a long while ago. It would be interesting to see a team winning its very first champinship like the Raptors in 2019.
Bout time the NBA playoffs actually are interesting. Lot of 1st time championship teams still in the mix
Quote from: ET21 on June 07, 2021, 07:46:36 PM
Bout time the NBA playoffs actually are interesting. Lot of 1st time championship teams still in the mix
Fucking Nets out here ruining parity. They aren't unbeatable, however.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 07, 2021, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: ET21 on June 07, 2021, 07:46:36 PM
Bout time the NBA playoffs actually are interesting. Lot of 1st time championship teams still in the mix
Fucking Nets out here ruining parity. They aren't unbeatable, however.
They've never won... you are a very salty and biased person
Quote from: Alps on June 07, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 07, 2021, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: ET21 on June 07, 2021, 07:46:36 PM
Bout time the NBA playoffs actually are interesting. Lot of 1st time championship teams still in the mix
Fucking Nets out here ruining parity. They aren't unbeatable, however.
They've never won... you are a very salty and biased person
I'll be happy for their fans if they win, but having one team be head and shoulders above the rest of the league is bad for the league. Right now without Harden, they are destroying the Bucks, giving them Harden tips the balance of the league to much in their favor.
Quote from: Alps on June 07, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 07, 2021, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: ET21 on June 07, 2021, 07:46:36 PM
Bout time the NBA playoffs actually are interesting. Lot of 1st time championship teams still in the mix
Fucking Nets out here ruining parity. They aren't unbeatable, however.
They've never won... you are a very salty and biased person
I guess the 2 ABA championships they won in 1974 and 1976 before they join the NBA are close but no cigar?
I spotted this vintage clips of the Nets in the 1976 ABA finals.
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Last game in ABA history...and what a game! Dr. J and David Thompson with some historic slams. Thompson scored 40. Dan Issel had 30 points and 20 rebounds. John Williamson scored 16 in 4th quarter...Great atmosphere in Nassau Coliseum
HBO televised the game...Steve Albert and Bob Goldshaw on the mics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAxvRtKLvQ
You're still looking at 45 years since the Nets last title
Didn't the Nets have one of the worst records in the NBA the year after the last ABA season and their second title?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 08, 2021, 10:19:28 AM
Didn't the Nets have one of the worst records in the NBA the year after the last ABA season and their second title?
The answer you're looking for is right here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976-77_NBA_season
In fact, the Nets' record (22-60, 11th in East) was the worst in the NBA that year. (The fact that Dr. J was sold to the rival Philadelphia 76ers and became a legend with them did not help matters either.) The Pacers fared little better at 36-46 (9th in West), but still missed the playoffs. However, the Nuggets (50-32, 2nd in West) and Spurs (44-38, 5th in East) did very well in their first year, and were playoff regulars more often than not. The Pacers didn't achieve that status until the Reggie Miller era in the 90s, and the Nets were the laughingstock of the league until they moved to Brooklyn, where they're finally coming into their own.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 08, 2021, 10:19:28 AM
Didn't the Nets have one of the worst records in the NBA the year after the last ABA season and their second title?
They lost Julius Erving.
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 07, 2021, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Alps on June 07, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 07, 2021, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: ET21 on June 07, 2021, 07:46:36 PM
Bout time the NBA playoffs actually are interesting. Lot of 1st time championship teams still in the mix
Fucking Nets out here ruining parity. They aren't unbeatable, however.
They've never won... you are a very salty and biased person
I guess the 2 ABA championships they won in 1974 and 1976 before they join the NBA are close but no cigar?
I spotted this vintage clips of the Nets in the 1976 ABA finals.
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Last game in ABA history...and what a game! Dr. J and David Thompson with some historic slams. Thompson scored 40. Dan Issel had 30 points and 20 rebounds. John Williamson scored 16 in 4th quarter...Great atmosphere in Nassau Coliseum
HBO televised the game...Steve Albert and Bob Goldshaw on the mics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAxvRtKLvQ
Similar to how the NHL handles WHA records.
That Nets Bucks game felt like a 2000s Pistons game.
Quote from: I-55 on June 08, 2021, 10:16:10 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 07, 2021, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Alps on June 07, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 07, 2021, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: ET21 on June 07, 2021, 07:46:36 PM
Bout time the NBA playoffs actually are interesting. Lot of 1st time championship teams still in the mix
Fucking Nets out here ruining parity. They aren't unbeatable, however.
They've never won... you are a very salty and biased person
I guess the 2 ABA championships they won in 1974 and 1976 before they join the NBA are close but no cigar?
I spotted this vintage clips of the Nets in the 1976 ABA finals.
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Last game in ABA history...and what a game! Dr. J and David Thompson with some historic slams. Thompson scored 40. Dan Issel had 30 points and 20 rebounds. John Williamson scored 16 in 4th quarter...Great atmosphere in Nassau Coliseum
HBO televised the game...Steve Albert and Bob Goldshaw on the mics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAxvRtKLvQ
Similar to how the NHL handles WHA records.
And also, how the NFL does the AFL's.
Giannis needs to stop shooting 3s.
Bucks saved by a toe on the 3-point line.
Quote from: Big John on June 20, 2021, 04:22:30 PM
Bucks saved by a toe on the 3-point line.
What a game. Amazing 4th quarter and overtime.
Wow, both EC semis series go to game 7 and down to the wire!
And the Sixers really just lost to the Hawks, wow.
Bucks Hawks as we all expected.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 20, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
Bucks Hawks as we all expected.
What about Suns-Clippers in the West? I'm sure no one expected that one.
Quote from: Henry on June 21, 2021, 11:35:48 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 20, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
Bucks Hawks as we all expected.
What about Suns-Clippers in the West? I'm sure no one expected that one.
Eh I think that more people predicted that, I predicted Jazz-Lakers and was totally off.
While I'm not a fan of the Clippers, having the Suns in the conference finals isn't a bad thing.
But I'm much more excited about the Bucks and Hawks matchup.
I'm just glad it isn't any of the usual suspects on the conference finals or another slapped together super team.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 03:30:13 PM
I'm just glad it isn't any of the usual suspects on the conference finals or another slapped together super team.
You could call the Clippers slapped together although they aren't very super with Kahwi out.
Quote from: Big John on June 20, 2021, 04:22:30 PM
Bucks saved by a toe on the 3-point line.
Will say KD did exercise some demons by the way he almost willed the Nets to a series win. Considering what he did, and Harden again not showing up in these moments KD shouldn't be looked at again as someone trying to gain easy titles(or at least not anymore).
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 03:30:13 PM
I'm just glad it isn't any of the usual suspects on the conference finals or another slapped together super team.
You could call the Clippers slapped together although they aren't very super with Kahwi out.
Nonetheless, I don't historically associate the Clippers as anything but one of worst teams consistently in the NBA.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 03:30:13 PM
I'm just glad it isn't any of the usual suspects on the conference finals or another slapped together super team.
You could call the Clippers slapped together although they aren't very super with Kahwi out.
Nonetheless, I don't historically associate the Clippers as anything but one of worst teams consistently in the NBA.
They have been decent over the past decade.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 03:30:13 PM
I'm just glad it isn't any of the usual suspects on the conference finals or another slapped together super team.
You could call the Clippers slapped together although they aren't very super with Kahwi out.
Nonetheless, I don't historically associate the Clippers as anything but one of worst teams consistently in the NBA.
They have been decent over the past decade.
Yes, but think of the frame of reference you've seen them in compared to someone twice your age. The Clippers were by far the worst NBA franchise for a very long time and probably still are in a historic context unless they win a title.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 03:30:13 PM
I'm just glad it isn't any of the usual suspects on the conference finals or another slapped together super team.
You could call the Clippers slapped together although they aren't very super with Kahwi out.
Nonetheless, I don't historically associate the Clippers as anything but one of worst teams consistently in the NBA.
They have been decent over the past decade.
Yes, but think of the frame of reference you've seen them in compared to someone twice your age. The Clippers were by far the worst NBA franchise for a very long time and probably still are in a historic context unless they win a title.
I would say that the worst franchise in nba history is the Hornets or Pelicans.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 03:30:13 PM
I'm just glad it isn't any of the usual suspects on the conference finals or another slapped together super team.
You could call the Clippers slapped together although they aren't very super with Kahwi out.
Nonetheless, I don't historically associate the Clippers as anything but one of worst teams consistently in the NBA.
They have been decent over the past decade.
Yes, but think of the frame of reference you've seen them in compared to someone twice your age. The Clippers were by far the worst NBA franchise for a very long time and probably still are in a historic context unless they win a title.
I would say that the worst franchise in nba history is the Hornets or Pelicans.
The Clippers are second to last all time in terms of win percentage only to the Timberwolves:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_all-time_NBA_win—loss_records
The Hornets had some really good teams for a long time in the 1990s but nobody stood a chance when Michael Jordan was active with the Bulls. The Pelicans were basically a continuation of the Hornets and were semi-successful in the first decade of the 2000s.
Hey, the Clippers are in the Western Finals!
Here's a nice song from 2015 (give it a chance, it's good):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjFEPXGlLiM
Even if the Clippers won a championship this year I still couldn't fathom people putting the franchise on level higher than the Suns, Jazz and even the Pacers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 08:37:09 PM
Even if the Clippers won a championship this year I still couldn't fathom people putting the franchise on level higher than the Suns, Jazz and even the Pacers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions
I would put them behind Utah and Phoenix but ahead of Indiana.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 21, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2021, 08:37:09 PM
Even if the Clippers won a championship this year I still couldn't fathom people putting the franchise on level higher than the Suns, Jazz and even the Pacers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions
I would put them behind Utah and Phoenix but ahead of Indiana.
The Pacers have historically been competitive for decades and have the thirteenth best winning percentage all time. How does one Clippers championship surpass that with the second to last winning percentage and the infamy of Donald Sterling?
Always fun seeing posts like this.....shows age of people and when they started watching. Got laughs with NFL fans when younger ones would talk about 49ers seemingly always stinking and I'd be like "Ever heard of these guys named Montana, Rice, and Walsh?!?"(just to name a few lol
Quote from: gr8daynegb on June 22, 2021, 11:47:17 AM
Always fun seeing posts like this.....shows age of people and when they started watching. Got laughs with NFL fans when younger ones would talk about 49ers seemingly always stinking and I'd be like "Ever heard of these guys named Montana, Rice, and Walsh?!?"(just to name a few lol
I know about the Clippers stinking for 4 decades but in my lifetime they are probably an average NBA franchise.
The Clippers were always one of Leno's go-to monologue punchlines back in the day.
Second Eastern Conference Finals for Milwaukee in the "Giannis Era". Trying to moderate my expectations after they came up short the last two seasons, but hey; maybe.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on June 22, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
The Clippers were always one of Leno's go-to monologue punchlines back in the day.
Second Eastern Conference Finals for Milwaukee in the "Giannis Era". Trying to moderate my expectations after they came up short the last two seasons, but hey; maybe.
They should make the NBA Finals.
Quote from: Henry on June 21, 2021, 11:35:48 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 20, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
Bucks Hawks as we all expected.
What about Suns-Clippers in the West? I'm sure no one expected that one.
My finals going into this year was Milwaukee and Phoenix. If that is the finals, I am going to win a lot of money for putting $20 on each team.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on June 22, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
The Clippers were always one of Leno's go-to monologue punchlines back in the day.
If the Clippers goes to the finals and win the NBA championship, I wonder if that would bring a bigger impact than the Raptor first championship 2 years ago.
Btw, it's already 50 years ago then the Bucks won their first championship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydpn0LuRfBk
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 22, 2021, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on June 22, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
The Clippers were always one of Leno's go-to monologue punchlines back in the day.
If the Clippers goes to the finals and win the NBA championship, I wonder if that would bring a bigger impact than the Raptor first championship 2 years ago.
Btw, it's already 50 years ago then the Bucks won their first championship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydpn0LuRfBk
And that's the most recent remaining team's championship.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 22, 2021, 07:28:36 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 22, 2021, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on June 22, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
The Clippers were always one of Leno's go-to monologue punchlines back in the day.
If the Clippers goes to the finals and win the NBA championship, I wonder if that would bring a bigger impact than the Raptor first championship 2 years ago.
Btw, it's already 50 years ago then the Bucks won their first championship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydpn0LuRfBk
And that's the most recent remaining team's championship.
As well as the only team left that won a championship in its current city. The Hawks won in 1958, when they were based in St. Louis.
The team that the Bucks beat has since changed their city and name. Also, the Bucks lost game 1. The Hawks might actually do it...
Game 4 tonight with MKE up 2-1.
Clippers forced game 6 last night thanks to a strong 41 point performance from Paul George.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on June 29, 2021, 12:32:04 PM
Game 4 tonight with MKE up 2-1.
Will Trae Young play tonight?
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Game 4 tonight with MKE up 2-1.
Will Trae Young play tonight?
Not known yet, but I think he will.
Perish the thought, Giannis went down in the Bucks' loss that has the East finals tied at 2-2. As valuable as Trae Young is to the Hawks, the Greek Freak is even more so to the Bucks, and if they should lose tomorrow night, there's some serious trouble ahead.
Giannis has avoided an acl tear or any serious injury. Not sure when he will return though.
Chris Paul flopping there.
Suns with 20 point lead, in a great position to make it to the NBA finals.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 30, 2021, 11:27:23 PM
Suns with 20 point lead, in a great position to make it to the NBA finals.
And they're in, for the first time since the 1993 Charles Barkley/Kevin Johnson team made it. This time, there is no Michael Jordan in the way of them winning their first NBA Championship. The Suns are a better team than either the Bucs or the Hawks.
Congrats to Chris Paul as well, for his first NBA finals appearance after 16 years of heartbreak.
It's somewhat funny that the Diamondbacks won the World Series 20 years ago; here's hoping that fate smiles on the Suns the same way, especially given their 0-2 Finals record (lost in 1976 and again in 1993).
Trae Young and Giannis out for game 5. Adam Silver must be throwing a fit.
Throwing a fit? About what? Show proof of what Mr. Silver is throwing a tizzy fit about, please.
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 01, 2021, 09:26:00 PM
Throwing a fit? About what? Show proof of what Mr. Silver is throwing a tizzy fit about, please.
The long held myth that the NBA tries to fix the games so big market/big star teams advance to the NBA Finals.
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 01, 2021, 09:26:00 PM
Throwing a fit? About what? Show proof of what Mr. Silver is throwing a tizzy fit about, please.
Nba ratings for a game without any stars playing.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 01, 2021, 10:22:59 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 01, 2021, 09:26:00 PM
Throwing a fit? About what? Show proof of what Mr. Silver is throwing a tizzy fit about, please.
Nba ratings for a game without any stars playing.
Chris Paul has been a big star for a very long time, Devin Booker is about to be one.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 02, 2021, 12:13:55 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 01, 2021, 10:22:59 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 01, 2021, 09:26:00 PM
Throwing a fit? About what? Show proof of what Mr. Silver is throwing a tizzy fit about, please.
Nba ratings for a game without any stars playing.
Chris Paul has been a big star for a very long time, Devin Booker is about to be one.
I was talking about the Bucks-Hawks game.
After that game last night, with the way other players like Portis and Lopez stepped up, I'm much more confident in the Bucks taking the series, even if Giannis is still out. The Bucks just need to keep pounding the ball inside and stop jacking up threes. They haven't shot well from three all series and just need to dominate in the paint. And when Giannis does come back, I'd be fine if he never shot another three in his career. Just focus on making free throws, stop standing there for 10 seconds and thinking about it, and shoot the shot.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 02, 2021, 12:42:46 AM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 01, 2021, 10:22:59 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 01, 2021, 09:26:00 PM
Throwing a fit? About what? Show proof of what Mr. Silver is throwing a tizzy fit about, please.
Nba ratings for a game without any stars playing.
Chris Paul has been a big star for a very long time, Devin Booker is about to be one.
I was talking about the Bucks-Hawks game.
Pretty sure he doesn't care, he's about to have one of the more unique finals in the last 10 years
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 02, 2021, 12:42:46 AM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 01, 2021, 10:22:59 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 01, 2021, 09:26:00 PM
Throwing a fit? About what? Show proof of what Mr. Silver is throwing a tizzy fit about, please.
Nba ratings for a game without any stars playing.
Chris Paul has been a big star for a very long time, Devin Booker is about to be one.
I was talking about the Bucks-Hawks game.
Pretty sure he doesn't care, he's about to have one of the more unique finals in the last 10 years
I'm looking forward to something different. All these super teams, Lebron James type mega stars and dynasties have been a drag with the NBA since I can remember. The best stuff usually is when you get Finals like this year when it is someone new at the table. It would nice to see the Suns finally get a championship after being a consistently good team through most of their history (slightly biased as former Phoenix resident).
Bucks up 3-2. Hopefully Trae Young is able to go for game 6.
Bucks won the East finals without Giannis, so they'll open the NBA Finals in Phoenix tonight. It could go either way...
Quote from: Henry on July 06, 2021, 10:56:40 AM
Bucks won the East finals without Giannis, so they'll open the NBA Finals in Phoenix tonight. It could go either way...
Suns will probably win if Giannis doesn't play.
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Quote from: Henry on July 06, 2021, 10:56:40 AM
Bucks won the East finals without Giannis, so they'll open the NBA Finals in Phoenix tonight. It could go either way...
Suns will probably win if Giannis doesn't play.
Just fun watching the PR games today with Giannis's status for game 1. Bucks seem to be doing their darnedest to having people believe he could play(as Bucks fan if reinjury concerns were not an issue that would be great), just don't see him being active for tonight. Maybe game 2
I think that he will try to play, idk how he will play.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 06, 2021, 04:38:37 PM
I think that he will try to play, idk how he will play.
If he is just trying to play for the short and long term then Giannis should sit tonight. Have to have doctors say chance of reaggravating or reinjuring in about zero before playing him. Hope for a good game tonight, had enough of seeing internal ESPN drama pop up last couple days
Bucks take game 3. We have a series. Bucks in 6!
Giannis looks unstoppable, can't believe that his injury was so recently.
Bucks 1 win away from winning it all
Quote from: Big John on July 17, 2021, 11:39:27 PM
Bucks 1 win away from winning it all
Booker's turnover killed the Suns here.
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Bucks 1 win away from winning it all
Booker's turnover killed the Suns here.
Any team that gives up 79 points in two quarters doesn't deserve to win. The Suns are completely lost right now.
The Bucks finally got a good game out of their big 3 all at the same time. If that happens again, The Suns have no chance. I gotta admit, I was about ready to turn the game off after the 1st quarter. I was great to see the Bucks come back and dominate the rest of the game. Bucks in 6!
Giannis best play in the league?
Time to put all those "Bucks in 6" chants to the test tonight.
Congrats to the Bucks on winning the NBA Finals.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 12:26:45 AM
Congrats to the Bucks on winning the NBA Finals.
The Phoenix Suns won the NBA Championship tonight! It was stolen from us! The Milwaukee Bucks benefited from biased media and officials. I demand that the NBA league office audit all scoring from the last 4 games, and award the Championship to the Suns. :pan: :-D :)
Or, maybe...
The Bucks were who we THOUGHT they were! If you wanna crown 'em, then CROWN their a$$! But they are who we thought they were. And we let 'em off the hook! :D
Seriously, congrats to the Milwaukee Bucks for their first NBA championship in 50 years. They earned it, and the Suns just choked the last 4 games.
Good time to be a Bucks fan-and I live in a neighborhood called Deerwood ;)
Giannis is for sure a top 2 player in the NBA
That old Downfall parody clip about the Phoenix Suns might be relevant again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvm0JnLNs5g
Bucks in 6, just like we knew all along! It feels so good to have a team from my home state besides the Packers finally put it all together and win it all within my lifetime. So many times, Wisconsin teams (Bucks, Brewers, Badgers, and yes, even the Packers) will get your hopes up and then get so close only to fall short. Not this time! And the Bucks are built to be good for a while yet. The only big contract decisions to be made this offseason are for PJ Tucker and Donte DiVincenzo. All the other core players are signed for at least 3 more years. Bucks in 6 in 2022!
Well, a trend continues for the Suns, as they lose the Finals in six games for the third time. It happened in 1976 (against the Celtics) and 1993 (against the Bulls), and now it's happened against the Bucks. Kind of like how the St. Louis Blues were swept in their first three Stanley Cup Finals before finally winning on the fourth try.
Curse of the Desert, anyone? The Coyotes don't have a Stanley Cup to their name, the Cardinals still haven't won a Super Bowl, and the Diamondbacks' 2001 World Series upset win is now a distant memory.
Giannis is such a great guy, I'm so happy that he got a ring. Also, awkward plane flight to Tokyo for Devin Booker.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:04:45 PM
Giannis is such a great guy, I'm so happy that he got a ring. Also, awkward plane flight to Tokyo for Devin Booker.
More awkward than those weird cardboard anti-sex beds they have in the Olympic Village?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 21, 2021, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:04:45 PM
Giannis is such a great guy, I'm so happy that he got a ring. Also, awkward plane flight to Tokyo for Devin Booker.
More awkward than those weird cardboard anti-sex beds they have in the Olympic Village?
False.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/19/tweets/heres-why-olympics-gave-athletes-cardboard-beds/
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 21, 2021, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:04:45 PM
Giannis is such a great guy, I'm so happy that he got a ring. Also, awkward plane flight to Tokyo for Devin Booker.
More awkward than those weird cardboard anti-sex beds they have in the Olympic Village?
False.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/19/tweets/heres-why-olympics-gave-athletes-cardboard-beds/
I don't know, I've broken a real bed before so I'm skeptical about how any kind of cardboard will hold up.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:43:52 AM
Giannis is for sure a top 2 player in the NBA
Perhaps.....although Giannis is the biggest matchup nightmare in the league at this time.
Do like this years Finals were teams that built themselves more with the old school draft and trades philosophy than going with the super team method that has been popular of late. Both teams look well positioned for future years if willing to pay luxury tax. For the Bucks appears Tucker is biggest FA they have going into 2021-2022 season, after that most of their main rotation is signed for next season
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:43:52 AM
Giannis is for sure a top 2 player in the NBA
Perhaps.....although Giannis is the biggest matchup nightmare in the league at this time.
Do like this years Finals were teams that built themselves more with the old school draft and trades philosophy than going with the super team method that has been popular of late. Both teams look well positioned for future years if willing to pay luxury tax. For the Bucks appears Tucker is biggest FA they have going into 2021-2022 season, after that most of their main rotation is signed for next season
They won't, but the NBA ought to do something about this super team nonsense. It's ruining basketball.
This Bucks championship was refreshing in that the team was built largely through drafting and trading. Wish we could see more of these kinds of champions rather than the ego-fest super team champions.
Quote from: gr8daynegb on July 21, 2021, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:43:52 AM
Giannis is for sure a top 2 player in the NBA
Perhaps.....although Giannis is the biggest matchup nightmare in the league at this time.
Do like this years Finals were teams that built themselves more with the old school draft and trades philosophy than going with the super team method that has been popular of late. Both teams look well positioned for future years if willing to pay luxury tax. For the Bucks appears Tucker is biggest FA they have going into 2021-2022 season, after that most of their main rotation is signed for next season
Real easy fix to the superteam problem: use one or a combination of a few of the metrics out there to rank the Top 60 players in the league from the previous season. If you already have two or more of the top 30, you aren't allowed to add any more, and the same if you already have three or more of the top 60. You can retain current players even if that puts/keeps you over the limit.
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 22, 2021, 11:59:54 AM
Quote from: gr8daynegb on July 21, 2021, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:43:52 AM
Giannis is for sure a top 2 player in the NBA
Perhaps.....although Giannis is the biggest matchup nightmare in the league at this time.
Do like this years Finals were teams that built themselves more with the old school draft and trades philosophy than going with the super team method that has been popular of late. Both teams look well positioned for future years if willing to pay luxury tax. For the Bucks appears Tucker is biggest FA they have going into 2021-2022 season, after that most of their main rotation is signed for next season
Real easy fix to the superteam problem: use one or a combination of a few of the metrics out there to rank the Top 60 players in the league from the previous season. If you already have two or more of the top 30, you aren't allowed to add any more, and the same if you already have three or more of the top 60. You can retain current players even if that puts/keeps you over the limit.
The NBA simply needs to have the power to veto certain moves such as Kevin Durant to the Warriors, kind of like how they vetoed the Chris Paul trade to the Lakers in 2011.
Or, to incentivize drafting and development, only allow more than two superstars per team if they drafted them originally. Get rid of draft pick protections as well so teams can't be protected from incompetence.
Glad I went out to a bar to watch game 6. That was fun to be in a crowd of cheering fans for such a momentous game.
On to Tokyo! :P
NBA needs to get rid of max contracts. Lebron gets paid the same as John Wall.
Quote from: I-39 on July 22, 2021, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 22, 2021, 11:59:54 AM
Quote from: gr8daynegb on July 21, 2021, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 21, 2021, 01:43:52 AM
Giannis is for sure a top 2 player in the NBA
Perhaps.....although Giannis is the biggest matchup nightmare in the league at this time.
Do like this years Finals were teams that built themselves more with the old school draft and trades philosophy than going with the super team method that has been popular of late. Both teams look well positioned for future years if willing to pay luxury tax. For the Bucks appears Tucker is biggest FA they have going into 2021-2022 season, after that most of their main rotation is signed for next season
Real easy fix to the superteam problem: use one or a combination of a few of the metrics out there to rank the Top 60 players in the league from the previous season. If you already have two or more of the top 30, you aren't allowed to add any more, and the same if you already have three or more of the top 60. You can retain current players even if that puts/keeps you over the limit.
The NBA simply needs to have the power to veto certain moves such as Kevin Durant to the Warriors, kind of like how they vetoed the Chris Paul trade to the Lakers in 2011.
Or, to incentivize drafting and development, only allow more than two superstars per team if they drafted them originally. Get rid of draft pick protections as well so teams can't be protected from incompetence.
Vetoing certain moves is calls into question the motivation and fairness of the league office. I'm essentially doing the same thing, but putting an objective criteria into place as to when moves should be vetoed.
NBA draft is today
https://www.nba.com/news/kevin-durant-surpasses-carmelo-anthony-for-most-points-in-us-olympic-history (https://www.nba.com/news/kevin-durant-surpasses-carmelo-anthony-for-most-points-in-us-olympic-history)
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31933583/team-usa-face-spain-men-basketball-quarterfinals-tokyo-olympics (https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31933583/team-usa-face-spain-men-basketball-quarterfinals-tokyo-olympics)
Team USA faces Spain in the Olympic Basketball quarterfinals and this comes after Team USA beats Czech Republic for third game.
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
No thoughts for now. The NBA draft got overshadowed by Olympics basketball this time.
USA beats Spain, France beats Italy, Slovenia beats Germany.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
No thoughts for now. The NBA draft got overshadowed by Olympics basketball this time.
I care way more about the Pistons drafting first then I ever will about Olympic basketball.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
What are my thoughts on who my team drafted AND signed? Mistakes, flukes, Knicks will be 2nd to last.
Lakers signing all the washed up vets.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
No clue, all I know is we got Lonzo Ball
Quote from: ET21 on August 04, 2021, 09:31:18 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
No clue, all I know is we got Lonzo Ball
And Derozan, Bulls looking scary.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 04, 2021, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 04, 2021, 09:31:18 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
No clue, all I know is we got Lonzo Ball
And Derozan, Bulls looking scary.
Appears George Hill, Rodney Hood, Semi Ojeleye the Bucks are signing to fill bench spots........Portis appears to be staying, and PJ Tucker going to Heat.
Glad the core three for the Bucks signed long term and are still young so bench signings are the worst to stress about
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 04, 2021, 12:53:32 AM
Lakers signing all the washed up vets.
Knicks raise you Kemba Walker.
https://www.espn.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/31962278/kevin-durant-jrue-holiday-rally-team-usa-australia-olympic-men-basketball-gold-medal-game
Team USA heads to Olympic basketball finals!!
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
What are your thoughts on who your team drafted?
The Orlando Magic would like to thank the Raptors for letting them get Jalen Suggs. Franz Wagner is a nice bonus (and they just signed his brother Mo for 2 years).
They've got a ton of young faces and a new coach...roll the dice, boys, and let's see what the young guns got!
Seattle and Las Vegas are the frontrunners for expansion, but Kansas City (where the Kings played before they moved to Sacramento) is now a wildcard, and the Chiefs' QB has expressed interest in owning a team there, per this report:
https://news.yahoo.com/nba-considers-kansas-city-expansion-100000291.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1423869372196655108
Team USA wins Olympics basketball finals!
As expected
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 07, 2021, 01:47:10 AM
As expected
It was definitely not a forgone conclusion. France had a few good 3 point shooters running high screen roll with 7' 1" Rudy Goubert, which is very hard to defend. It took a strong effort from the US to win.
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
Quote from: Alps on August 04, 2021, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 04, 2021, 12:53:32 AM
Lakers signing all the washed up vets.
Knicks raise you Kemba Walker.
I'll always admire Kemba for the 2011 NCAA tournament (yeah, 10 years ago). UConn on the wrong side of the NCAA bubble heading into the BE tournament. Kemba leading the team to 11 straight elimination-game victories and the championship. (And UConn being the villain: everyone else wanted Butler to win.)
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 07, 2021, 01:47:10 AM
As expected
It was definitely not a forgone conclusion. France had a few good 3 point shooters running high screen roll with 7' 1" Rudy Goubert, which is very hard to defend. It took a strong effort from the US to win.
Also Team USA lost to France in pool play, but that was only hours after Holliday, Middleton, and Booker arrived in Tokyo from playing in the NBA Finals.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 07, 2021, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
I guarantee you that he much rather have an NBA Championship and would trade that Olympic gold medal in a second for it.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 07, 2021, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
I guarantee you that he much rather have an NBA Championship and would trade that Olympic gold medal in a second for it.
Most team America players feel the same way. The goal medal is way more special for an international team.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 08, 2021, 12:17:32 AM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
I guarantee you that he much rather have an NBA Championship and would trade that Olympic gold medal in a second for it.
Most team America players feel the same way. The goal medal is way more special for an international team.
But is that the case with basketball where all the best players in the world are also part of the NBA? Basketball unlike soccer doesn't have a fragmented professional field of play consisting of multiple top tier leagues. The NBA is unquestionably the premier league for basketball.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 08, 2021, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 08, 2021, 12:17:32 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:09:37 PM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
I guarantee you that he much rather have an NBA Championship and would trade that Olympic gold medal in a second for it.
Most team America players feel the same way. The goal medal is way more special for an international team.
But is that the case with basketball where all the best players in the world are also part of the NBA? Basketball unlike soccer doesn't have a fragmented professional field of play consisting of multiple top tier leagues. The NBA is unquestionably the premier league for basketball.
I would consider Manu Ginobili leading Argentina to the gold as more impressive than his 4 rings with the Spurs.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 08, 2021, 12:57:38 AM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
I guarantee you that he much rather have an NBA Championship and would trade that Olympic gold medal in a second for it.
Most team America players feel the same way. The goal medal is way more special for an international team.
But is that the case with basketball where all the best players in the world are also part of the NBA? Basketball unlike soccer doesn't have a fragmented professional field of play consisting of multiple top tier leagues. The NBA is unquestionably the premier league for basketball.
I would consider Manu Ginobili leading Argentina to the gold as more impressive than his 4 rings with the Spurs.
How so? An NBA Championship includes an 82 game season and at least 16 playoff games. It was for the time a hell of an upset but definitely not a greater accomplishment than being part of even one of those NBA titles.
The US is expected to win gold in basketball and does so almost every time, so it's just not quite as special when it happens. An NBA/WNBA championship is much harder to achieve if you're American.
For a foreign player, an Olympic title would be much more special.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 08, 2021, 08:30:34 AM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 07, 2021, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
I guarantee you that he much rather have an NBA Championship and would trade that Olympic gold medal in a second for it.
Most team America players feel the same way. The goal medal is way more special for an international team.
But is that the case with basketball where all the best players in the world are also part of the NBA? Basketball unlike soccer doesn't have a fragmented professional field of play consisting of multiple top tier leagues. The NBA is unquestionably the premier league for basketball.
I would consider Manu Ginobili leading Argentina to the gold as more impressive than his 4 rings with the Spurs.
How so? An NBA Championship includes an 82 game season and at least 16 playoff games. It was for the time a hell of an upset but definitely not a greater accomplishment than being part of even one of those NBA titles.
Two points:
Manu was the clear cut player on Argentina, he was the 3rd or 4th best player on those Spurs teams
The NBA finals is won every year, and all the teams are full of NBA players, Argentina in 2004 is the only time since NBA players were allowed that a non-USA team won gold, and most of Manu's teammates were not NBA players.
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Sweet, a victory I take literally no satisfaction from nor glean the slightest bit of national pride.
I'm happy for Jayson Tatum but I'm not super excited.
I guarantee you that he much rather have an NBA Championship and would trade that Olympic gold medal in a second for it.
Most team America players feel the same way. The goal medal is way more special for an international team.
But is that the case with basketball where all the best players in the world are also part of the NBA? Basketball unlike soccer doesn't have a fragmented professional field of play consisting of multiple top tier leagues. The NBA is unquestionably the premier league for basketball.
I would consider Manu Ginobili leading Argentina to the gold as more impressive than his 4 rings with the Spurs.
How so? An NBA Championship includes an 82 game season and at least 16 playoff games. It was for the time a hell of an upset but definitely not a greater accomplishment than being part of even one of those NBA titles.
Two points:
Manu was the clear cut player on Argentina, he was the 3rd or 4th best player on those Spurs teams
The NBA finals is won every year, and all the teams are full of NBA players, Argentina in 2004 is the only time since NBA players were allowed that a non-USA team won gold, and most of Manu's teammates were not NBA players.
Yes, and to me the NBA Championship is a far more grander accomplishment than an Olympic Medal. Olympic basketball always felt to me like All-Star games in professional sports. You aren't usually getting the full deck of talent across the board and a lot dudes even if they don't say it clear don't want to be there.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 07, 2021, 01:47:10 AM
As expected
Not really some of the players who were in the 2021 Team USA Basketball team were initially not prepared to go Olympics basketball given that they got out of the NBA finals. Booker, Jrue Holiday and Middleton were the ones that just got out of the NBA finals and we're less prepared to deal with Olympics opponents in the first Basketball round.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 08, 2021, 01:03:03 PM
Yes, and to me the NBA Championship is a far more grander accomplishment than an Olympic Medal. Olympic basketball always felt to me like All-Star games in professional sports. You aren't usually getting the full deck of talent across the board and a lot dudes even if they don't say it clear don't want to be there.
Or something more rarer, a member of the Triple Gold Club who have won an Olympic gold medal, a FIBA World Championship gold medal, and a NBA championship.
https://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/185376/basketballs-triple-gold-club Homever, the term "Triple Gold Club" is more popular in hockey than basketball.
Edit: My mistake, it's Triple Crown club, not Triple Gold club as mentionned earlier althougth this other link had a different definition of the Triple Crown Club. http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/list/201207/basketball-triple-crown-ncaa-nba-championships-olympic-gold-medal
Quote from: bing101 on August 09, 2021, 12:01:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 07, 2021, 01:47:10 AM
As expected
Not really some of the players who were in the 2021 Team USA Basketball team were initially not prepared to go Olympics basketball given that they got out of the NBA finals. Booker, Jrue Holiday and Middleton were the ones that just got out of the NBA finals and we're less prepared to deal with Olympics opponents in the first Basketball round.
True, but as soon as USA got into a rhythm there was no beating them.
VCU's Bones Hyland had a pretty impressive performance despite the Nuggets getting crushed by the Celtics in the Summer League. Bones was out on health and safety protocols, had not practiced with the team, had just been cleared to play about three hours before the game, took a quick flight from Denver to Vegas arriving about an hour before the game, had very little warm-up time, and put up 16 points and 7 assists including a couple of beautiful dishes to Bol Bol.
And I see yesterday Valpo made it official they are now the Beacons
Celtics sign Dennis Schröder to a 5.9 million dollar contract, and absolute steal for them.
As a Nets hater I am glad that Kyrie might not be able to play home games.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 27, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
As a Nets hater I am glad that Kyrie might not be able to play home games.
I think many Nets fans might like that as well.
Quote from: gr8daynegb on September 28, 2021, 09:32:15 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 27, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
As a Nets hater I am glad that Kyrie might not be able to play home games.
I think many Nets fans might like that as well.
Why? Kyrie is a very good player.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 28, 2021, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: gr8daynegb on September 28, 2021, 09:32:15 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 27, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
As a Nets hater I am glad that Kyrie might not be able to play home games.
I think many Nets fans might like that as well.
Why? Kyrie is a very good player.
Pro-vax Nets fans would like it.
Quote from: Alps on September 29, 2021, 12:38:07 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 28, 2021, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: gr8daynegb on September 28, 2021, 09:32:15 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 27, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
As a Nets hater I am glad that Kyrie might not be able to play home games.
I think many Nets fans might like that as well.
Why? Kyrie is a very good player.
Pro-vax Nets fans would like it.
Well it hurts their team, they would hope that he will get it.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 28, 2021, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: gr8daynegb on September 28, 2021, 09:32:15 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 27, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
As a Nets hater I am glad that Kyrie might not be able to play home games.
I think many Nets fans might like that as well.
Why? Kyrie is a very good player.
Guy is good player.......but seems to do more to hurt his team than help it. Look at the series vs the Bucks this postseason when Harden and Irving weren't playing vs when either/or or both were playing with KD. Whether it's a misgiven label or not Irving, like Harden, has gain a rep for being a player that will eventually keep you from winning a title that losing it(the LeBron title you notice very little ever said about Irving),
Some ex-NBA players had been charged for fraud. It's like the modern day "Black Sox scandal".
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/07/18-former-nba-players-charged-in-alleged-4-million-health-insurance-fraud.html
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Eighteen former NBA players, including former Celtics and Clippers player Ronald Glen "Big Baby" Davis, have been arrested and charged with defrauding the NBA's Health and Welfare Benefit Plan out of nearly $4 million.
The ex-players are accused of submitting false reimbursement claims from around 2017 to 2020 for medical and dental services that were not actually purchased, according to an indictment filed in federal court in the Southern District of New York, or SDNY.
Those false claims totaled about $3.9 million, according to the indictment. Players received about $2.5 million in total fraudulent proceeds, with each receiving as little as $65,000 to as much as $420,000.
"The benefit plans provided by the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association to our players are critically important to support their health and well-being throughout their playing careers and over the course of their lives, which makes these allegations particularly disheartening," The NBA said in a statement Thursday. The league noted that it will cooperate with the U.S. Attorney's Office in this matter.
The NBA Players Association also said in a statement late Thursday it was aware of the indictment and will continue to monitor the situation.
In what way is defrauding a health care plan at all analogous to allegations of fixing the World Series?
Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 12, 2021, 11:32:25 AM
In what way is defrauding a health care plan at all analogous to allegations of fixing the World Series?
One thing in common is the money at the end of the rainbow. ;)
The Chicago Sky have won their first WNBA championship, beating the Phoenix Mercury in four games.
Goddangit NCAA, Syracuse didnt get in!
Lets see if they are in the Loser's league, the NIT! :spin: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Well done Syracuse, you are a bunch of crapheads. :rolleyes: :ded:
At least @hbelkins got his team in.
@Rothman is a :no: for his team. :-o :cool:
Quote from: snowc on March 13, 2022, 06:37:08 PM
Goddangit NCAA, Syracuse didnt get in!
Lets see if they are in the Loser's league, the NIT! :spin: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Well done Syracuse, you are a bunch of crapheads. :rolleyes: :ded:
At least @hbelkins got his team in.
@Rothman is a :no: for his team. :-o :cool:
NIT requires a winning record so Syracuse is not eligible.
Bring on New Mexico State!!!
At least UConn has a trip down the Thruway for its sub-regional. Also, Nova has the SEPTA Championship (or is it the DelCo vs State of) vs Delaware in Pittsburgh.
Quote from: cabiness42 on March 13, 2022, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: snowc on March 13, 2022, 06:37:08 PM
Goddangit NCAA, Syracuse didnt get in!
Lets see if they are in the Loser's league, the NIT! :spin: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Well done Syracuse, you are a bunch of crapheads. :rolleyes: :ded:
At least @hbelkins got his team in.
@Rothman is a :no: for his team. :-o :cool:
NIT requires a winning record so Syracuse is not eligible.
Welp, im imma head into bed and weep. and think about next year. :-( :-( :-( :-(
Might as well be a slap in the face for me. Its the 13th. :-D :-D :-D :ded:
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 13, 2022, 06:46:27 PM
Bring on New Mexico State!!!
At least UConn has a trip down the Thruway for its sub-regional. Also, Nova has the SEPTA Championship (or is it the DelCo vs State of) vs Delaware in Pittsburgh.
At least Duke has a chance. Thank god.
AND NOTRE DAME IS IN! YEAH! :D :love: :pan: :colorful:
It's not university vs. university, it's emoticon vs. emoticon.
Quote from: 1 on March 13, 2022, 07:23:34 PM
It's not university vs. university, it's emoticon vs. emoticon.
lol @1 :-P :cool:
The University of Vermont Catamounts are in the tournament. Good luck to them.
https://twitter.com/gbronsdon/status/1503100161395896322
Texas A&M snubbed?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 15, 2022, 05:18:43 PM
Texas A&M snubbed?
They were a bubble team - ESPN thought they were on the last 4 in but they turned into the first 4 out. Michigan made it just above the bubble and Indiana made it inside, a switch from what ESPN predicted. All in all, as much as people think A&M were snubbed, this year really didn't have any gross misadmissions. The #65-72 teams all seem about right for those positions.
Seton Hall in the women's NIT final! At least some team I follow is in SOME sort of final.
Playoff time is here, and my Bulls are going to face the defending champion Bucks in the first round. While it's highly unlikely that Chicago pulls an upset, hopefully the I-94 series can go at least five or six games.
Kansas coach Bill Self has been suspended for 4 games due to an FBI investigation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-suspends-coach-bill-self-4-games-fbi-probe-college-basketball-c-rcna55276 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-suspends-coach-bill-self-4-games-fbi-probe-college-basketball-c-rcna55276)
ORU men's basketball just won the regular season Summit League title in a nail-biting game last night, clinching an NIT berth in the worst case scenario. The crowd (and student section) at last night's game was insane. Undefeated so far at home and in conference. If they can pull out a win tomorrow night against NDSU (which won't be easy), they will have won all their games at home for the season. Crazy.
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 17, 2023, 05:53:16 PM
ORU men's basketball just won the regular season Summit League title in a nail-biting game last night, clinching an NIT berth in the worst case scenario. The crowd (and student section) at last night's game was insane. Undefeated so far at home and in conference. If they can pull out a win tomorrow night against NDSU (which won't be easy), they will have won all their games at home for the season. Crazy.
And tonight ORU dominantly won the Summit League Championship. What a year! 30-4 overall and 21-0 in conference. They might end up being a problem for a 5 seed next week.
Syracuse HC Jim Boeheim retires after 47 years.
Quote from: Big John on March 08, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Syracuse HC Jim Boeheim retires after 47 years.
Great career but it was clearly time.
Quote from: Big John on March 08, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Syracuse HC Jim Boeheim retires after 47 years.
"Retires" should be in quotes. It sounds more like he wasn't brought back.
Quote from: Big John on March 08, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Syracuse HC Jim Boeheim retires after 47 years.
It sounds as though he was (lightly) pushed out the door.
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on March 09, 2023, 06:01:14 AM
Quote from: Big John on March 08, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Syracuse HC Jim Boeheim retires after 47 years.
It sounds as though he was (lightly) pushed out the door.
Given his estate in Skaneateles, I don't feel sorry for him.
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2023, 06:50:41 AM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on March 09, 2023, 06:01:14 AM
Quote from: Big John on March 08, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Syracuse HC Jim Boeheim retires after 47 years.
It sounds as though he was (lightly) pushed out the door.
Given his estate in Skaneateles, I don't feel sorry for him.
Nor do I; it just seemed, given his longevity, his exit is rather unceremonious.
Exciting day of college basketball yesterday. Sadly, 11-22 Lafayette and 12-22 Northern Arizona both lost their conference championship games. A shame, I wanted to see one of them in the tournament.
RIP Willis Reed.