Illinois notes

[sprjus4]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

[hobsini2]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience?

The Ghost of William F Buckley! That's who.

[Crash_It]

It was not appropriate. And the IDOT / WIDOT comparisons are irrelevant.

It was perfectly relevant.. why chastise a DOT in another state while the DOT in your own state isn't handling what should be handled?

Are you seriously suggesting that no one can be critical of IDOT unless they are from Illinois? In a topic called "Illinois notes?"

Nah, he's called out Illinois posters who have critiqued the roads accusing them of not knowing what they're talking about or having a hatred of their own state.

Yup. I remember in the Summer of 2021, having to drive out to Freeport on US 20 and saying in here how bad the road was in Stephenson County with the paving. And who was it that critiqued my experience? You guessed it. Crash It. But that's not why you called.

Because I drove that similar stretch around that time and didn't encounter any bad pavement. I even have a video of it that I've yet to produce.

[kphoger]

So you don't think that calling IDOT IDiOT for recognizing the founder of a state's largest city to be inappropriate?

People on here call IDOT "IDiOT" all the time, and they have for years.  It didn't start with that.

[Hobart]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

[JoePCool14]

As a general recommendation, just don't take the bait. It's not worth your time or frustration to argue with someone like this. I've written multiple lengthy posts to refute his arguments and I won't be writing any more.

[SEWIGuy]

I even have a video of it that I've yet to produce.

"The dog ate my homework."

[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

Don't give him more ideas to try to squeeze some more video views out of the forum.  Just a matter of time before the nominal bad driving videos appear again.

As a general recommendation, just don't take the bait. It's not worth your time or frustration to argue with someone like this. I've written multiple lengthy posts to refute his arguments and I won't be writing any more.

More fun to make flat jokes.

[Crash_It]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

[Max Rockatansky]

As a general recommendation, just don't take the bait. It's not worth your time or frustration to argue with someone like this. I've written multiple lengthy posts to refute his arguments and I won't be writing any more.

Couldn't have said it better myself, so I didn't.

[Crash_It]

I even have a video of it that I've yet to produce.

"The dog ate my homework."

Hold my beer

https://imgur.com/a/dfEzI6c

[Brandon]

So you don't think that calling IDOT IDiOT for recognizing the founder of a state's largest city to be inappropriate?

People on here call IDOT "IDiOT" all the time, and they have for years.  It didn't start with that.

It and a variation (IDOT can't even spell "idiot" properly) have been around as long as I can remember, and that's a good 40+ years.

[kphoger]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

But any examples of bad roads in Illinois should be disqualified for any of a variety of reasons?

[Crash_It]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

But any examples of bad roads in Illinois should be disqualified for any of a variety of reasons?

Those are in the crosshairs for repair in the upcoming construction season. The one's I listed in Wisconsin are not or say "when/if finding becomes available" 😂😂

[Max Rockatansky]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

But any examples of bad roads in Illinois should be disqualified for any of a variety of reasons?

Yes, it really took you this long to get it?  You can't have problems in your narrative if you actively deny that negative aspects exist.  Now you can be part of the one true non-flat Illinois!

[JoePCool14]

So you don't think that calling IDOT IDiOT for recognizing the founder of a state's largest city to be inappropriate?

People on here call IDOT "IDiOT" all the time, and they have for years.  It didn't start with that.

It and a variation (IDOT can't even spell "idiot" properly) have been around as long as I can remember, and that's a good 40+ years.

I even know of IDOT employees who have made jokes referring to IDiOT by name.

[Max Rockatansky]

So you don't think that calling IDOT IDiOT for recognizing the founder of a state's largest city to be inappropriate?

People on here call IDOT "IDiOT" all the time, and they have for years.  It didn't start with that.

It and a variation (IDOT can't even spell "idiot" properly) have been around as long as I can remember, and that's a good 40+ years.

I even know of IDOT employees who have made jokes referring to IDiOT by name.

Traitors!  They should be loyal to their home state.

[hobsini2]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

Crash It, you may want to check up on your "sources" before making a statement on what is being done. According to the WisDOT site, https://projects.511wi.gov/12walworth/, US 12 in Walworth County is being resurfaced.

[Crash_It]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

Crash It, you may want to check up on your "sources" before making a statement on what is being done. According to the WisDOT site, https://projects.511wi.gov/12walworth/, US 12 in Walworth County is being resurfaced.

Well that's one, still plenty others that I've listed that aren't touched or scheduled to be touched.

[Max Rockatansky]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

Crash It, you may want to check up on your "sources" before making a statement on what is being done. According to the WisDOT site, https://projects.511wi.gov/12walworth/, US 12 in Walworth County is being resurfaced.

Well that doesn't matter because it doesn't agree with my hostile brand pro-Illinois agenda.

FIFY

[sprjus4]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

Crash It, you may want to check up on your "sources" before making a statement on what is being done. According to the WisDOT site, https://projects.511wi.gov/12walworth/, US 12 in Walworth County is being resurfaced.

Well that's one, still plenty others that I've listed that aren't touched or scheduled to be touched.

And yet you still refuse to look at Illinois bad examples given to you. It's funny. You're trying to push this narrative but instead nobody believes you and we all laugh at it. 

Just a tip, when no one believes your message, you're doing a bad job spreading it.

[hobsini2]

^ Well obviously who cares about your experience? Obviously you're just lying or it's not important. All that matters is the good roads that do exist in some areas, which automatically makes the whole state good. Just ignore the bad ones.

This is his logic.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call his thought processes "logic" as they arbitrarily change based on what state we're talking about.

For example:
The Stadium Freeway (WIS-175) north of I-94 is quite smooth and moves well! Therefore, Wisconsin has fantastic roads! Just ignore the bad ones! (I don't have any examples of Wisconsin's bad roads off the top of my head because Wisconsin actually takes care of their roads.) Obviously, anybody who disagrees is lying with me, or their issue is not important!

I can name a few off the top of my head

WIS32 from state line to 91st then again from 75th to 60th St, then once again from 52nd St to Sheridan Rd then again after WIS 11 until it splits off in Racine. Gets bad again on the Northside of Caledonia

US12 through most of Walworth county
I894 through Milwaukee County
WIS81 west of Monroe

I could go on

Crash It, you may want to check up on your "sources" before making a statement on what is being done. According to the WisDOT site, https://projects.511wi.gov/12walworth/, US 12 in Walworth County is being resurfaced.

Well that's one, still plenty others that I've listed that aren't touched or scheduled to be touched.

Again, you are showing how lazy you are with not even looking. So let me give you actual sources. Here's the lists by region:
Southwest (inc Madison/Beloit/La Crosse/Portage/Tomah): https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/default.aspx
Southeast (inc Milwaukee): https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/default.aspx
Northeast (inc Sheboygan/Green Bay/Oshkosh/Marinette): https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/ne/default.aspx
North Central (inc Wautoma/Wis Dells/Wausau/Rhinelander): https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/nc/default.aspx
Northwest (inc Eau Claire/Superior/Ashland/Black River Falls): https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/nw/default.aspx

Oh and 3 (along with the earlier US 12 I posted) of the 4 items you sited are here below:
I-894/43 Milwaukee Co - https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/894-43/default.aspx
Wis 32 Kenosha & Racine Co - https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/32alfordpark/default.aspx
Wis 32 Racine Co - https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/32caledonia/default.aspx

I think you need to quit before you really step into the shit, so deep that you'll be up to your neck in it.

[hobsini2]

BTW Crash It, you weren't specific with how far west of Monroe on 81 BUUUUUTTTT its there too in 3 different projects.
Darlington area: https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/wis81-darlington/default.aspx
Grant Co & Cassville:  https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/wis81-cassville/default.aspx &
https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/wis81-grantcounty/default.aspx

So that's 4 for 4. You're done.

Trust me when I say to you that your credibility on THIS subject is shot.

[sprjus4]

His credibility on this forum in general is shot to nothing.

[Max Rockatansky]

His credibility on this forum in general is shot to nothing.

There was a time when it wasn't?