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Carmakers like VW are bringing back buttons because drivers loathe all the touch

Started by ZLoth, April 27, 2023, 04:53:42 PM

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jeffandnicole

Quote from: kalvado on April 10, 2024, 08:48:26 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 10, 2024, 08:44:43 AMSo...none with local law enforcement tracking your car's movements via GPS.
Primarily because that capability is fairly limited so far.
Couple of stories about gps device planted on a car, phone spoofing, ezpass off label use are there.
Quote from: mgk920 on April 10, 2024, 10:47:19 AMAlso cheating spouses/significant others.   :nod:

Mike

Another big one was for evidence in those entering the Capitol on Jan 6, 2020.  For those going to DC, especially from the Northeast, investigators used EZ Pass records attributable to the car or person, showing they were driving to or from DC on or about Jan 6.

But, like the other examples above, these are all intentional reviews of GPS and other electronic equipment to determine the whereabouts of a specific person, with known reasons to monitor them.  They weren't random lookups as traffic was passing by to try to guess what someone may be doing in real time.


kalvado

Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 10, 2024, 11:25:08 AMBut, like the other examples above, these are all intentional reviews of GPS and other electronic equipment to determine the whereabouts of a specific person, with known reasons to monitor them.  They weren't random lookups as traffic was passing by to try to guess what someone may be doing in real time.
It is really about (lack of) capabilities. Those will be brought up under "we are looking for terrorists" reasons and then definition will be expanded....

vdeane

Quote from: kalvado on April 10, 2024, 11:31:21 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 10, 2024, 11:25:08 AMBut, like the other examples above, these are all intentional reviews of GPS and other electronic equipment to determine the whereabouts of a specific person, with known reasons to monitor them.  They weren't random lookups as traffic was passing by to try to guess what someone may be doing in real time.
It is really about (lack of) capabilities. Those will be brought up under "we are looking for terrorists" reasons and then definition will be expanded....
Agreed.  It hasn't happened yet (as far as anyone is aware of, at least) because the technology didn't exist until the terrorism panic died down.  Now imagine if we had the same AI, GPS, and camera capabilities we have now (or that we imagine we might five years from now) immediately after 9/11, when Congress was passing the Patriot Act and creating the NSA...
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Scott5114

Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 10, 2024, 08:44:43 AMSo...none with local law enforcement tracking your car's movements via GPS.

Original post was about license plates, not GPS.
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kalvado

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 10, 2024, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 10, 2024, 08:44:43 AMSo...none with local law enforcement tracking your car's movements via GPS.

Original post was about license plates, not GPS.
I would say that the current discussion is about what kind of information can be collected, specifically under "it's in plain view!" assumption. License plates are very low hanging fruit, face recognition is also up there by now. toll tags readout may be a bit less simple. GPS data would require a bit more legalize wording to get.



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