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Is a sign better with one or two posts?

Started by tolbs17, July 19, 2021, 07:34:48 PM

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Big John

It depends of the wind loading area of the sign and the type of post used.  Bigger signs usually require 2 posts and there is a cost savings of using 1 post is 2 are not needed.

SkyPesos

I prefer one signpost for all of those. I also prefer one bar for signing two routes in a concurrency, by either stacking the shields or placing them side by side. Unfortunately, this is a foreign concept to Ohio DOT, as the main way of signing concurrencies here is with a separate signpost for each shield.

tolbs17

Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 07:48:36 PM
It depends of the wind loading area of the sign and the type of post used.  Bigger signs usually require 2 posts and there is a cost savings of using 1 post is 2 are not needed.
NCDOT fucked up big time when they did this sign with only one bar.

Big John

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 07:48:36 PM
It depends of the wind loading area of the sign and the type of post used.  Bigger signs usually require 2 posts and there is a cost savings of using 1 post is 2 are not needed.
NCDOT fucked up big time when they did this sign with only one bar.
If the pole was strong enough, 1 pole would be appropriate there.

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Changed the subject to ask a more important question.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2021, 09:37:56 PM
Changed the subject to ask a more important question.

Unsure, but did 3 men walk into it?
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Quote from: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 07:48:36 PM
It depends of the wind loading area of the sign and the type of post used.  Bigger signs usually require 2 posts and there is a cost savings of using 1 post is 2 are not needed.
NCDOT fucked up big time when they did this sign with only one bar.

The horror! Those heathens at NCDOT, daring to put up a simple warning sign on one standard sign post.

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One post, otherwise it's breaking the forum rules.
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Quote from: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 07:34:48 PM
Two post

One post

One post

Two posts

Two posts...

Two posts!

One post

One and two posts with reflective material

Here aswell.

The very first two examples you linked to aren't even made of the same material:  one has metal posts and the other has a wooden post.  That's not exactly a fair comparison to start out with.

But the answer is actually four.
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Where's that Arizona detour sign that had 8 posts? I've been trying to find it, but I can't. Could've sworn it was in the Worst Signs thread.
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Quote from: kphoger on July 20, 2021, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 07:34:48 PM
Two post

One post

One post

Two posts

Two posts...

Two posts!

One post

One and two posts with reflective material

Here aswell.

The very first two examples you linked to aren't even made of the same material:  one has metal posts and the other has a wooden post.  That's not exactly a fair comparison to start out with.

But the answer is actually four.

Here's a different kind of four for you. I seem to recall that when I visited in 2002, the welcome sign wasn't much bigger than this and had five or more posts. I have a paper photo somewhere I might be able to dig out and see for sure.
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JoePCool14

I'm about to blow everyone's mind with this one. I hope you all can handle it. Kinda crazy, I know.


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tolbs17

Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 21, 2021, 09:59:39 PM
I'm about to blow everyone's mind with this one. I hope you all can handle it. Kinda crazy, I know.


3 posts should be enough on that sign. Not 5.

jakeroot

In terms of non-guide signage, I have not seen the two-post setup here in WA. Warning, regulatory, etc...all single-post.

I definitely prefer the look of a single post.

tolbs17

Quote from: jakeroot on July 21, 2021, 10:30:16 PM
In terms of non-guide signage, I have not seen the two-post setup here in WA. Warning, regulatory, etc...all single-post.

I definitely prefer the look of a single post.
On that one big sign?

SkyPesos

#20
Which states post interstates reassurance shields with two posts? Ohio is one of them to start the list off, though there's also a fair share of single-post ones (specifically some newer installations) out there.

Big John

Quote from: SkyPesos on July 21, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Which states post interstates reassurance shields with two posts? Ohio is one of them to start the list off, though there's also a fair share of single-post ones (specifically some newer installations) out there.
Massachusetts has wide reassurance shields and uses 2 posts.

jakeroot

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 21, 2021, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 21, 2021, 10:30:16 PM
In terms of non-guide signage, I have not seen the two-post setup here in WA. Warning, regulatory, etc...all single-post.

I definitely prefer the look of a single post.

On that one big sign?

That's a guide sign and all have at least two posts that I've seen. Apart from little green signs.

kphoger

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 21, 2021, 10:36:09 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on July 21, 2021, 10:30:16 PM
In terms of non-guide signage, I have not seen the two-post setup here in WA. Warning, regulatory, etc...all single-post.

I definitely prefer the look of a single post.

On that one big sign?

:pan:

Quote from: SkyPesos on July 21, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Which states post interstates reassurance shields with two posts? Ohio is one of them to start the list off, though there's also a fair share of single-post ones (specifically some newer installations) out there.

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jmacswimmer

Quote from: SkyPesos on July 21, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Which states post interstates reassurance shields with two posts? Ohio is one of them to start the list off, though there's also a fair share of single-post ones (specifically some newer installations) out there.

A lot of newer MD installations are 2-post as well - for example, just about every I-95 shield on the MDTA-controlled JFK Highway segment looks like this (for comparison, here's an older 1-post shield on the SHA-controlled "between the beltways" segment).  And here's a snazzy-looking newer 2-post on I-270 from SHA.
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"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"



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