This is a general topic thread for South Dakota roads and highways. I don't think one exists already.
Here is an article related to traffic conditions on Colorado Boulevard in Spearfish. This is the segment that parallels Interstate 90 and US 14-85 between Exit 14 (Business 90 and US 14A) and Exit 17 (US 85).
https://www.bhpioneer.com/local_news/spearfish-reviews-traffic-study-at-colorado-blvd/article_65cfeed2-af6c-11eb-9b68-fb5e1f551bef.html
QuoteAs due diligence in preparation for the 40-acre sports complex being built along with the 180-lot housing development currently under construction near Exit 17, city officials contracted with HDR, Inc. to complete a traffic impact study for the area to see what issues might need to be addressed as the sporting events center attracts more travelers to Spearfish.
The study focused on five intersection points around the development area — the Interstate — 90 on and off ramps at Exit 17; the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and U.S. Hwy. 85; the intersection of St. Onge Road and U.S. Hwy. 85; and the four-way intersection at Colorado Boulevard and Rainbow Road. The study also looked at three entry and exit points to the development area. ...
Two of the intersections would be operating at a service level of "˜F' by 2022 if no improvements were made.
One of those intersections is the westbound ramp terminal at Exit 17; however, that deterioration won't be caused by the development, so those improvements will be monitored and made by the South Dakota Department of Transportation (DOT). The other issue was identified at the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and Highway 85, which the study shows, will be impacted by the development.
Summer construction season is coming to Sioux Falls...
https://kelo.com/2021/05/07/165550/
Projects include:
+ Interstate Crossroads Interstate 29 & Interstate 90 - Interstate 29 from mile marker 5 to 119 and Interstate 90 from mile marker 380 to 396. Work activities include guardrail upgrades, grading, paving, and culverts
+ Interstate 29 from milepost 62 to 71 - concrete pavement repair and upgrade
+ Interatate 229 and 26th St interchange (Exit 5) Sioux Falls - replacement and upgrade of concrete paving, curb, and sidewalks
+ S.D. Highway 18 through the city of Canton (478th Ave. to the South Dakota state line) - pavement repair, accessible curb and walkways, and related work
+ S.D. 19 from S.D. 42 to Parker and S.D. 44 from Parker to the junction with S.D. 19 - pavement repair, intersection improvements, turn lanes, culverts, and related work
+ SD Highway 46 Beresford - pavement work will restrict traffic to one lane
+ Veteran's Parkway in Sioux Falls - bridge painting and fence installation at Interstate 90 Bridge and Big Sioux River Bridge
Landslide repair is underway at South Dakota 36 near Custer State Park. The project will address current damage and help prevent more landslides in the future.
https://www.einnews.com/amp/pr_news/539019360/landslide-repair-on-s-d-highway-36-east-of-custer-state-park-to-begin-this-week
QuoteThe South Dakota Department of Transportation says crews will begin the first phase of a two-phase project with landslide repair on S.D. Highway 36 at mile marker 41.27, east of Custer State Park, on Thursday, April 22, 2021.
SM-G975U
Quote from: andy3175 on May 08, 2021, 07:34:05 PM
This is a general topic thread for South Dakota roads and highways. I don't think one exists already.
Here is an article related to traffic conditions on Colorado Boulevard in Spearfish. This is the segment that parallels Interstate 90 and US 14-85 between Exit 14 (Business 90 and US 14A) and Exit 17 (US 85).
https://www.bhpioneer.com/local_news/spearfish-reviews-traffic-study-at-colorado-blvd/article_65cfeed2-af6c-11eb-9b68-fb5e1f551bef.html
QuoteAs due diligence in preparation for the 40-acre sports complex being built along with the 180-lot housing development currently under construction near Exit 17, city officials contracted with HDR, Inc. to complete a traffic impact study for the area to see what issues might need to be addressed as the sporting events center attracts more travelers to Spearfish.
The study focused on five intersection points around the development area — the Interstate — 90 on and off ramps at Exit 17; the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and U.S. Hwy. 85; the intersection of St. Onge Road and U.S. Hwy. 85; and the four-way intersection at Colorado Boulevard and Rainbow Road. The study also looked at three entry and exit points to the development area. ...
Two of the intersections would be operating at a service level of "˜F' by 2022 if no improvements were made.
One of those intersections is the westbound ramp terminal at Exit 17; however, that deterioration won't be caused by the development, so those improvements will be monitored and made by the South Dakota Department of Transportation (DOT). The other issue was identified at the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and Highway 85, which the study shows, will be impacted by the development.
Yeah the problem with that area is when the city annexed out there they inherited the narrow no-shoulder Lawrence County-maintained service road (which is absolutely terrifying to ride a bike on, least on that stretch) and now they're trying to develop that area over what the county anticipated. I'm not sure what the DOT project on 85 is, but if they add stoplights to Exit 17 and the Colorado/St. Onge intersection that would solve a lot of problems.
QuoteSouth Dakota drivers are paying a deadly toll for disregarding the rules of the road.
Drivers who are speeding, not wearing seat belts, and/or having consumed alcohol and other intoxicants, are dying at a much higher rate than in recent years, according to a report from the state Department of Public Safety.
Because of that bad behavior behind the wheel, more died on South Dakota highways and roads in 2020 than 2019, with 141 people killed in 132 fatal crashes in 2020, according to the DPS. There was a 38% increase in fatalities, as 102 people died on South Dakota highways and roads in 2019.
https://www.bhpioneer.com/local_news/a-deadly-toll-sd-has-highest-increase-in-fatal-crashes-in-the-nation-in-2020/article_c1e02b2a-9efe-11eb-9397-6f626da1e557.html
Surprising.
Presuming you're being sarcastic in saying "surprising". Doesn't surprise me at all. It's been well-documented in much of the nation that the reduction in traffic over the past year due to COVID restrictions has resulted in higher speeds, more crashes, and more fatalities.
What is with the I-90 Business Loop being very well signed through Rapid City and then through Black Hawk but no BL 90 sign to be found exiting I-90 EB to the BL90?
Quote from: froggie on May 11, 2021, 10:37:15 PM
Presuming you're being sarcastic in saying "surprising". Doesn't surprise me at all. It's been well-documented in much of the nation that the reduction in traffic over the past year due to COVID restrictions has resulted in higher speeds, more crashes, and more fatalities.
Since I missed this post a few months ago: the surprising part isn't that it increased, but that a state that didn't shut down as much as other states saw the largest increase.
Quote from: SD Mapman on May 11, 2021, 03:59:38 AM
Quote from: andy3175 on May 08, 2021, 07:34:05 PM
This is a general topic thread for South Dakota roads and highways. I don't think one exists already.
Here is an article related to traffic conditions on Colorado Boulevard in Spearfish. This is the segment that parallels Interstate 90 and US 14-85 between Exit 14 (Business 90 and US 14A) and Exit 17 (US 85).
https://www.bhpioneer.com/local_news/spearfish-reviews-traffic-study-at-colorado-blvd/article_65cfeed2-af6c-11eb-9b68-fb5e1f551bef.html
QuoteAs due diligence in preparation for the 40-acre sports complex being built along with the 180-lot housing development currently under construction near Exit 17, city officials contracted with HDR, Inc. to complete a traffic impact study for the area to see what issues might need to be addressed as the sporting events center attracts more travelers to Spearfish.
The study focused on five intersection points around the development area — the Interstate — 90 on and off ramps at Exit 17; the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and U.S. Hwy. 85; the intersection of St. Onge Road and U.S. Hwy. 85; and the four-way intersection at Colorado Boulevard and Rainbow Road. The study also looked at three entry and exit points to the development area. ...
Two of the intersections would be operating at a service level of "˜F' by 2022 if no improvements were made.
One of those intersections is the westbound ramp terminal at Exit 17; however, that deterioration won't be caused by the development, so those improvements will be monitored and made by the South Dakota Department of Transportation (DOT). The other issue was identified at the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and Highway 85, which the study shows, will be impacted by the development.
Yeah the problem with that area is when the city annexed out there they inherited the narrow no-shoulder Lawrence County-maintained service road (which is absolutely terrifying to ride a bike on, least on that stretch) and now they're trying to develop that area over what the county anticipated. I'm not sure what the DOT project on 85 is, but if they add stoplights to Exit 17 and the Colorado/St. Onge intersection that would solve a lot of problems.
So what is with all of the sudden growth out in Lawrence County anyway?
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on August 09, 2021, 07:43:16 AM
What is with the I-90 Business Loop being very well signed through Rapid City and then through Black Hawk but no BL 90 sign to be found exiting I-90 EB to the BL90?
The portion from Black Hawk to W. Chicago is unsigned SD 231, DOT signs it as BL 90 because that makes more sense. After that, it's city maintained, and a lot of the signage might be legacy signage since E. North St. was recently reconstructed.
Quote from: 1 on August 09, 2021, 07:45:34 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 11, 2021, 10:37:15 PM
Presuming you're being sarcastic in saying "surprising". Doesn't surprise me at all. It's been well-documented in much of the nation that the reduction in traffic over the past year due to COVID restrictions has resulted in higher speeds, more crashes, and more fatalities.
Since I missed this post a few months ago: the surprising part isn't that it increased, but that a state that didn't shut down as much as other states saw the largest increase.
Tourists? Since we didn't really shut down at all (nothing closed in Spearfish except where national chains pushed policies) there've been TONS of out-of-staters going through.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on August 09, 2021, 07:56:46 AM
So what is with all of the sudden growth out in Lawrence County anyway?
People want to live here because we're awesome! Probably a combination of low taxes, pretty scenery, and reasonable access to amenities in Rapid without having to live in Rapid.
Why is there a gate at Exit 400 on I-90 East?
https://goo.gl/maps/uA7CNd3fUt2HDkKx7
Quote from: roadman65 on October 25, 2021, 10:19:38 AM
Why is there a gate at Exit 400 on I-90 East?
https://goo.gl/maps/uA7CNd3fUt2HDkKx7
Blizzard closure point. Many cities out west have these at the edge of town so that you have to return to town instead of traveling into a dangerous situation.
At the location you have, there is a gate on I-90 WB at Exit 395. They are preceded by these signs: https://goo.gl/maps/E69T87mgM1pyrFsx9
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 25, 2021, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 25, 2021, 10:19:38 AM
Why is there a gate at Exit 400 on I-90 East?
https://goo.gl/maps/uA7CNd3fUt2HDkKx7
Blizzard closure point. Many cities out west have these at the edge of town so that you have to return to town instead of traveling into a dangerous situation.
At the location you have, there is a gate on I-90 WB at Exit 395. They are preceded by these signs: https://goo.gl/maps/E69T87mgM1pyrFsx9
These are all over the place as you go across i-90. Wisconsin has them on a lot of the entrance ramps to keep traffic off the interstate for accidents or blizzards. Seeing them on the highway was unique. It's a good thing since there are LONG stretches with no exits. Bad place to get stuck in a blizzard.
Quote from: msunat97 on October 27, 2021, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 25, 2021, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 25, 2021, 10:19:38 AM
Why is there a gate at Exit 400 on I-90 East?
https://goo.gl/maps/uA7CNd3fUt2HDkKx7
Blizzard closure point. Many cities out west have these at the edge of town so that you have to return to town instead of traveling into a dangerous situation.
At the location you have, there is a gate on I-90 WB at Exit 395. They are preceded by these signs: https://goo.gl/maps/E69T87mgM1pyrFsx9
These are all over the place as you go across i-90. Wisconsin has them on a lot of the entrance ramps to keep traffic off the interstate for accidents or blizzards. Seeing them on the highway was unique. It's a good thing since there are LONG stretches with no exits. Bad place to get stuck in a blizzard.
Florida and Georgia have them as well for hurricane traffic redirection.
Referring to an earlier post, I have been reading about the higher accident rates during the pandemic in many states and it has really baffled the researchers.
The simple answer is lack of traffic removes impediments but I think that is too broad a stroke. If anyone has a link to more detailed research data, I would love to read more on it.
2020 was also a record year for RV travel in the US. RV sales nationally have been at record highs. Would be interested to know if that played a role in any of the statistics.
https://www.i29exit71.com/
yes
Quote from: SoDakInterstateEnthusiast on November 30, 2021, 04:22:54 PM
https://www.i29exit71.com/
yes
Why does the design take 5 years? Seems like it could be done in 1 or 2. Do they not have the funding to build it right away?
Quote from: mvak36 on November 30, 2021, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: SoDakInterstateEnthusiast on November 30, 2021, 04:22:54 PM
https://www.i29exit71.com/
yes
Why does the design take 5 years? Seems like it could be done in 1 or 2. Do they not have the funding to build it right away?
The final IMJR for the I-90 Exit 59 DDI project, which started in early 2021 and is currently ongoing, was approved in 2016. It seems they like to procrastinate a bit with some of these larger projects.
Quote from: X99 on December 01, 2021, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on November 30, 2021, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: SoDakInterstateEnthusiast on November 30, 2021, 04:22:54 PM
https://www.i29exit71.com/
yes
Why does the design take 5 years? Seems like it could be done in 1 or 2. Do they not have the funding to build it right away?
The final IMJR for the I-90 Exit 59 DDI project, which started in early 2021 and is currently ongoing, was approved in 2016. It seems they like to procrastinate a bit with some of these larger projects.
Interesting, seems kind of bass ackwards to me. I would think they could save money on inflation if they do it sooner.
Quote from: mvak36 on December 01, 2021, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: X99 on December 01, 2021, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on November 30, 2021, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: SoDakInterstateEnthusiast on November 30, 2021, 04:22:54 PM
https://www.i29exit71.com/
yes
Why does the design take 5 years? Seems like it could be done in 1 or 2. Do they not have the funding to build it right away?
The final IMJR for the I-90 Exit 59 DDI project, which started in early 2021 and is currently ongoing, was approved in 2016. It seems they like to procrastinate a bit with some of these larger projects.
Interesting, seems kind of bass ackwards to me. I would think they could save money on inflation if they do it sooner.
State government in SD works at its own pace, unless the issue becomes a political football. For instance, there's a bridge out west of Spearfish on a wildlife area that partially washed out (safe for pedestrians and ATVs but not cars) in ~2012 or so. Despite calls to fix the bridge, Game Fish & Parks did nothing until they got called out at a public meeting about a proposed state park (the comment was something along the lines of "Why should we trust GF&P to manage this park when they can't fix a bridge in 5 years?"). The bridge was fixed within the next month.
(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-2000w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2020_35/3407777/200826-kristi-noem-rnc-ac-903p.jpg)
Ask me again, why are people moving to South Dakota? One smart cookie.
Quote from: edwaleni on December 01, 2021, 11:13:16 PM
(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-2000w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2020_35/3407777/200826-kristi-noem-rnc-ac-903p.jpg)
Ask me again, why are people moving to South Dakota? One smart cookie.
Someone knows how to snag the moderator's attention. WTG.
https://goo.gl/maps/LetuYhCjLdqrDEsp7
Car driving on wrong side of road, but in reality passing the Street Car.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 08:19:32 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LetuYhCjLdqrDEsp7
Car driving on wrong side of road, but in reality passing the Street Car.
If you rewind down the road a bit, you'll notice that the other car started his pass before the passing zone even started. I get that it's a two lane road but do you really have to be that impatient?
Quote from: X99 on January 30, 2023, 12:48:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 08:19:32 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LetuYhCjLdqrDEsp7
Car driving on wrong side of road, but in reality passing the Street Car.
If you rewind down the road a bit, you'll notice that the other car started his pass before the passing zone even started. I get that it's a two lane road but do you really have to be that impatient?
Likely that guy's from Philip or the surrounding environs, road rules tend to get a bit soft out in the sticks if you live out there (e.g. the stop signs by my folks' house are more like yield signs since traffic is non-existent, yes we should do better).
Quote from: andy3175 on May 08, 2021, 07:34:05 PM
This is a general topic thread for South Dakota roads and highways. I don't think one exists already.
Here is an article related to traffic conditions on Colorado Boulevard in Spearfish. This is the segment that parallels Interstate 90 and US 14-85 between Exit 14 (Business 90 and US 14A) and Exit 17 (US 85).
https://www.bhpioneer.com/local_news/spearfish-reviews-traffic-study-at-colorado-blvd/article_65cfeed2-af6c-11eb-9b68-fb5e1f551bef.html
QuoteAs due diligence in preparation for the 40-acre sports complex being built along with the 180-lot housing development currently under construction near Exit 17, city officials contracted with HDR, Inc. to complete a traffic impact study for the area to see what issues might need to be addressed as the sporting events center attracts more travelers to Spearfish.
The study focused on five intersection points around the development area — the Interstate — 90 on and off ramps at Exit 17; the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and U.S. Hwy. 85; the intersection of St. Onge Road and U.S. Hwy. 85; and the four-way intersection at Colorado Boulevard and Rainbow Road. The study also looked at three entry and exit points to the development area. ...
Two of the intersections would be operating at a service level of "˜F' by 2022 if no improvements were made.
One of those intersections is the westbound ramp terminal at Exit 17; however, that deterioration won't be caused by the development, so those improvements will be monitored and made by the South Dakota Department of Transportation (DOT). The other issue was identified at the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and Highway 85, which the study shows, will be impacted by the development.
So I saw the results for this study the other day. The plan is to repave Colorado and add a turn lane (so it goes from 2 to 3 lanes). IMO they should just 4-lane the whole thing preemptively since Spearfish is going to fill in that valley in the next 20 years or so.
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 10, 2023, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: andy3175 on May 08, 2021, 07:34:05 PM
This is a general topic thread for South Dakota roads and highways. I don't think one exists already.
Here is an article related to traffic conditions on Colorado Boulevard in Spearfish. This is the segment that parallels Interstate 90 and US 14-85 between Exit 14 (Business 90 and US 14A) and Exit 17 (US 85).
https://www.bhpioneer.com/local_news/spearfish-reviews-traffic-study-at-colorado-blvd/article_65cfeed2-af6c-11eb-9b68-fb5e1f551bef.html
QuoteAs due diligence in preparation for the 40-acre sports complex being built along with the 180-lot housing development currently under construction near Exit 17, city officials contracted with HDR, Inc. to complete a traffic impact study for the area to see what issues might need to be addressed as the sporting events center attracts more travelers to Spearfish.
The study focused on five intersection points around the development area — the Interstate — 90 on and off ramps at Exit 17; the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and U.S. Hwy. 85; the intersection of St. Onge Road and U.S. Hwy. 85; and the four-way intersection at Colorado Boulevard and Rainbow Road. The study also looked at three entry and exit points to the development area. ...
Two of the intersections would be operating at a service level of "˜F' by 2022 if no improvements were made.
One of those intersections is the westbound ramp terminal at Exit 17; however, that deterioration won't be caused by the development, so those improvements will be monitored and made by the South Dakota Department of Transportation (DOT). The other issue was identified at the intersection of Colorado Boulevard and Highway 85, which the study shows, will be impacted by the development.
So I saw the results for this study the other day. The plan is to repave Colorado and add a turn lane (so it goes from 2 to 3 lanes). IMO they should just 4-lane the whole thing preemptively since Spearfish is going to fill in that valley in the next 20 years or so.
IMO three lanes are generally better than four just because you get the left-turning traffic out of the passing lane, but it looks like they're just matching what's on the west side of Exit 14.
It's only going to be up to the edge of the Sky Ridge development, not all the way back to Pizza Ranch. When the state redid the 14A section of Colorado back ten years ago or so (Pizza Ranch to Dairy Queen), they had a study that said three lanes were more efficient than four, but as someone who is very familiar with that road, upgrading it to four lanes divided when they put in the roundabouts in a few years would really help traffic flow.
https://goo.gl/maps/uLRR9mFiN1Mu9cCs5
What happened to SD 42 and BL I-229?
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2023, 05:18:24 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/uLRR9mFiN1Mu9cCs5
What happened to SD 42 and BL I-229?
SDDOT, in 2006, turned over SD 42 between Ellis Rd and Six Mile Rd to the city of Sioux Falls. What you're partly seeing is SDDOT very slowly getting around to reflecting that fact at the I-229 interchange. The signage at I-29 and 12th St (Exit 79) is...its own set of issues: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.543323,-96.7796152,3a,37.5y,333.04h,88.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYTSmq0L9-tEvO46PBw19mQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.siouxfalls.org/public-works/street-construction/projects/2023/benson-229-interchange
The city of Sioux Falls (in coordination with SDDOT) will be reconstructing the Benson Road/Interstate 229 interchange to a diverging diamond interchange (DDI)...
"This project will reconstruct the Benson Road and I-229 Interchange into a diverging diamond configuration, and will feature the City's first triple left turn lane when the project is completed! West of I-229, Benson Road will be widened to 3 lanes in each direction with turn lanes and a raised median. East of I-229, Benson Road will be widened to 2 lanes in each direction with turn lanes and a raised median. Additional improvements to Benson Road include concrete pavement, new bridge installation and existing bridge deck rehabilitation, water main, sanitary sewer repairs and installation, storm drainage improvements, street light and traffic signal improvements, new accessible curb ramps, and concrete curb and gutter. The City is partnering with the South Dakota Department of Transportation on this project."
Construction just started a week ago (April 3), and it's expected to be completed in June 2025. Price tag: $36 million
Public meeting for the I-90 Exit 63 interchange in Box Elder on April 13th from 6-7:30 pm at its city hall.
https://www.i90exit63.com/events
The preferred alternative that SDDOT went with is Alternative 3B, which will reconstruct the existing interchange to a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) with auxiliary lanes being added along I-90 between exits 61 and 63.
Construction on this project will likely begin in 2027, with the completion year in 2029. Estimated project cost: $55 million
The project itself will be split up into three phases:
Phase 1 — Highway 1416 closed
Phase 2 — EB lanes closed, head-to-head traffic on Existing I-90 WB
Phase 3 — WB lanes closed, head-to-head traffic on Proposed EB I-90
Link to the presentation materials: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d68047e99e03b0001ed16af/t/642aed1ac7f733487c511335/1680534818859/PCN3022_PublicMeetingPowerPoint.pdf
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on April 10, 2023, 06:38:08 PM
Public meeting for the I-90 Exit 63 interchange in Box Elder on April 13th from 6-7:30 pm at its city hall.
https://www.i90exit63.com/events
The preferred alternative that SDDOT went with is Alternative 3B, which will reconstruct the existing interchange to a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) with auxiliary lanes being added along I-90 between exits 61 and 63.
Construction on this project will likely begin in 2027, with the completion year in 2029. Estimated project cost: $55 million
The project itself will be split up into three phases:
Phase 1 — Highway 1416 closed
Phase 2 — EB lanes closed, head-to-head traffic on Existing I-90 WB
Phase 3 — WB lanes closed, head-to-head traffic on Proposed EB I-90
Link to the presentation materials: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d68047e99e03b0001ed16af/t/642aed1ac7f733487c511335/1680534818859/PCN3022_PublicMeetingPowerPoint.pdf
Took them long enough. Not sure what they plan to do with 1416 though, as I heard earlier plans to push the two roadways together, but with the recent configuration change at Radar Hill that doesn't really work as well as it used to.
Same goes with the new roadway on the west side of the interchange- there's currently nothing there. I once made a proposal in Fictional that extended that roadway all the way to Haines through farmland, but I'm willing to bet that will never happen.
Also, the Gisi Road rebuild is pointless- that's a private driveway that someone slapped a road sign on and somehow it became official.
Quote from: brad2971 on April 01, 2023, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2023, 05:18:24 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/uLRR9mFiN1Mu9cCs5
What happened to SD 42 and BL I-229?
SDDOT, in 2006, turned over SD 42 between Ellis Rd and Six Mile Rd to the city of Sioux Falls. What you're partly seeing is SDDOT very slowly getting around to reflecting that fact at the I-229 interchange. The signage at I-29 and 12th St (Exit 79) is...its own set of issues: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.543323,-96.7796152,3a,37.5y,333.04h,88.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYTSmq0L9-tEvO46PBw19mQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
The issue is Sioux Falls still signs 11, 42 and 115 (along with BS 29 and BL 229) in city limits, so the routes are still technically "through". There are no end signs, and the city project to rebuild Minnesota Ave (115) north of downtown (last year) actually replaced the 115 reassurance shields instead of removing them. I'm planning to ask DOT about the exit signage in the greater Sioux Falls area, there's a general lack of consistency (some county routes signed and some not, road names missing, etc) that I'm curious about.
Quote from: X99 on April 13, 2023, 10:20:42 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on April 10, 2023, 06:38:08 PM
Public meeting for the I-90 Exit 63 interchange in Box Elder on April 13th from 6-7:30 pm at its city hall.
https://www.i90exit63.com/events
The preferred alternative that SDDOT went with is Alternative 3B, which will reconstruct the existing interchange to a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) with auxiliary lanes being added along I-90 between exits 61 and 63.
Construction on this project will likely begin in 2027, with the completion year in 2029. Estimated project cost: $55 million
The project itself will be split up into three phases:
Phase 1 — Highway 1416 closed
Phase 2 — EB lanes closed, head-to-head traffic on Existing I-90 WB
Phase 3 — WB lanes closed, head-to-head traffic on Proposed EB I-90
Link to the presentation materials: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d68047e99e03b0001ed16af/t/642aed1ac7f733487c511335/1680534818859/PCN3022_PublicMeetingPowerPoint.pdf
Took them long enough. Not sure what they plan to do with 1416 though, as I heard earlier plans to push the two roadways together, but with the recent configuration change at Radar Hill that doesn't really work as well as it used to.
Same goes with the new roadway on the west side of the interchange- there's currently nothing there. I once made a proposal in Fictional that extended that roadway all the way to Haines through farmland, but I'm willing to bet that will never happen.
Also, the Gisi Road rebuild is pointless- that's a private driveway that someone slapped a road sign on and somehow it became official.
Looks like they might push the carriageways together at least at the interchange and they might separate again once you get to Radar Hill Rd, we'll have to see how it plays out. My issue here is why are they naming the road west of I-90 Highway 1416 when US 14 and US 16 never went that way? On Gisi Road, they have to preserve existing access, even if it was an unnamed driveway.
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 23, 2023, 12:16:58 PM
On Gisi Road, they have to preserve existing access, even if it was an unnamed driveway.
I'm not suggesting removing access to Gisi Road, obviously it's still needed. I'm just suggesting putting it here instead:
(https://i.imgur.com/fSbOLVf.png)
This would keep the new access road from cutting through the middle of the property, and that other stub going off to the left is already linked to Bennett Road on the other end so that connection is redundant.
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 23, 2023, 12:16:58 PM
My issue here is why are they naming the road west of I-90 Highway 1416 when US 14 and US 16 never went that way?
Given what I've seen in some of the proposed interchange layouts, I think the plan is to somehow link the western roadway directly to Mall Drive, which would hopefully rename it to that starting at the interchange. (If it were up to me, I would run it north of Mall and Seger and call it SD 200, but it isn't up to me, so I'm hoping my other guess is right.) Mall currently ends at a T junction with Seger, with an unbuilt continuation at the top of the T, so it already removes Seger as an obstacle to link to 1416 if that really is the official plan.
Quote from: X99 on April 24, 2023, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 23, 2023, 12:16:58 PM
On Gisi Road, they have to preserve existing access, even if it was an unnamed driveway.
I'm not suggesting removing access to Gisi Road, obviously it's still needed. I'm just suggesting putting it here instead:
(https://i.imgur.com/fSbOLVf.png)
This would keep the new access road from cutting through the middle of the property, and that other stub going off to the left is already linked to Bennett Road on the other end so that connection is redundant.
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 23, 2023, 12:16:58 PM
My issue here is why are they naming the road west of I-90 Highway 1416 when US 14 and US 16 never went that way?
Given what I've seen in some of the proposed interchange layouts, I think the plan is to somehow link the western roadway directly to Mall Drive, which would hopefully rename it to that starting at the interchange. (If it were up to me, I would run it north of Mall and Seger and call it SD 200, but it isn't up to me, so I'm hoping my other guess is right.) Mall currently ends at a T junction with Seger, with an unbuilt continuation at the top of the T, so it already removes Seger as an obstacle to link to 1416 if that really is the official plan.
That would make sense, and then once the project is finished they'll get rid of the N I-90 Service Road since it will be no longer necessary.
Interesting eminent domain suit result. Taking land for highway improvements in the middle of nowhere just got more expensive.
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Brookings, state lose $850,000-plus Interstate 29 Exit 130 interchange lawsuit
BROOKINGS – The new Brookings exit on Interstate 29 got considerably more expensive last week.
A Brookings County jury awarded a property owner whose land was taken by the city and state through eminent domain $850,000 on June 1 – nearly 23 times the original payment from the city and state.
The state of South Dakota and city of Brookings acquired the land from Renae Rohl, owner of RCS Development Inc., in 2021 through a quick take at the price of $6,000 per acre, or $37,674 in total.
At the conclusion of a two-day trial last week, a county jury ordered them to pay her $850,000 plus expert fees and trial costs. That figure represents a valuation of $138,888 per acre.
Attorney Tim Hogan of Ribstein and Hogan represented Rohl at trial, along with Clint Sargent of Meirhenry Sargent LLP of Sioux Falls.
Hogan said his client and her late husband owned 20 acres west of I-29 and south of 20th Street in the area along with the Western Estates mobile home park for years. The couple sold Western Estates in 2016 but held the parcel as an investment.
"Renae is very happy with the outcome, and I think happy to get it over with," Hogan said. "And I was impressed with her at trial. When asked how much she thought she should get, she just said she should get a fair price for her property."
State statute requires property seized via eminent domain be purchased for fair market value. And because the jury decided the land was worth more than 20 percent more than the state and city offered, Rohl is entitled to collect all her costs from the litigation, including attorney's fees.
The city is entitled to appeal the verdict.
When reached for comment, city officials confirmed the verdict for 6.12 acres of land.
The city also confirmed it does not have lawsuit insurance on the project and the costs will be included in the overall project costs of the interchange.
City Manager Paul Briseno offered: "The City has no further comment."
Hogan said a decision to appeal would be up to the city, but added "Based on what was presented to the court, I didn't see any grounds for appeal."
Site preparation for the new Exit 130 interchange beganlast year and the exit is scheduled to be open next month.
Eminent domain has become a hot-button political issue in the Upper Midwest as scads of litigation has been filed over two proposed carbon dioxide pipelines through the area. Both the South Dakota and North Dakota state legislatures hotly debated bills that would have made using eminent domain for the pipelines all but impossible last session.
Original article in Brookings Register (https://brookingsregister.com/article/brookings-state-lose-850000-plus-interstate-29-exit-130-interchange-lawsuit)
All that because the state paid $6000 an acre instead of $7200 per acre for a... useless gravel pit. Methinks the Brookings County jury is overvaluing nothing to drive up their own property values. You have a mix of left-leaning university types (who hate the state) and landowners who have to deal with the carbon pipeline eminent domain (who hate the state) and naturally DOT had no chance of winning this.
Eminent domain out here is a serious business, I've heard of surveyors from the firm I work at being threatened with being shot for trying to survey sewer locations.
Quote from: SD Mapman on June 29, 2023, 10:38:34 PM
All that because the state paid $6000 an acre instead of $7200 per acre for a... useless gravel pit. Methinks the Brookings County jury is overvaluing nothing to drive up their own property values. You have a mix of left-leaning university types (who hate the state) and landowners who have to deal with the carbon pipeline eminent domain (who hate the state) and naturally DOT had no chance of winning this.
Eminent domain out here is a serious business, I've heard of surveyors from the firm I work at being threatened with being shot for trying to survey sewer locations.
The jury may have overvalued the property. But it wouldn't have been a problem had the owners been given fair value for it. $6000/acre for a large, interstate-adjacent parcel is a low-ball offer even in South Dakota. There's a lot of anger as it is over eminent domain (and that anger is held by right-leaning, libertarian-types that hate the state far more than anyone on the left; the left's anger at eminent domain is usually over things like poor-people's homes being declared "blighted" and then destroyed for highway expansion). Most juries everywhere are going to be sympathetic to small landowners over the state most days.
FWIW, gravel pits are far from useless. We're actually running out of quality sand and gravel that can be used for construction. You can't use wind-blown sand like I have all around me in the desert. Construction needs washed sand like that found in Midwestern glacial deposits (moraines, drumlins, eskers, etc). You can also get the right sand out of riverbeds but most people don't appreciate their prime trout streams and other riverbanks being mined and those riverbeds are also usually subject to flooding, not ideal for extraction.
One of the major projects in South Dakota just got underway this year: I-90 Exit 406 (Brandon) interchange reconstruction to a DDI...
From SDDOT: https://dot.sd.gov/i90-exit406-brandon-pcn-4433
Project Summary:
This project includes the reconstruction of exit 406 (Brandon) with added lighting, signals, and mainline Interstate work. This project also includes three structure replacements.
The interchange will be reconstructed as a diverging diamond configuration.
Westbound Interstate 90 lanes (along with the railroad structure on I90) will be reconstructed in 2024 and the eastbound lanes (and railroad structure in 2025). The interchange itself and new structure over I90 will be reconstructed between 2024 and 2025.
S.D. Highway 11 traffic will be maintained across Interstate 90 during construction.
The westbound on-ramp and eastbound off-ramp are expected to be open to traffic for the majority of the project. Closures for the westbound off-ramp and eastbound on-ramp are planned for 2025.
Work will extend on S.D. Highway 11 down to Redwood Boulevard.
Once construction wraps up in Fall 2025, this will be the 4th DDI in South Dakota, with three of them being in the Sioux Falls metro area.
Are DDIs becoming a popular interchange type for South Dakota, because they just built a few of them within a few years?
In Rapid City, the Anamosa Street bridge over I-190 will be replaced this construction season.
From SDDOT: https://dot.sd.gov/anamosa-bridge-pcn065k
Project Summary:
The project consists of:
- Replacing aged structure with weight restrictions
- Replacing and improving intersections at both ends of the bridge
- Reducing light pollution in communities adjacent to Interstate 190
The purpose of this project is to replace the Anamosa Street Bridge over Interstate 190 due to aging and weight restrictions. There will be luminaires replaced along the I-190 corridor that will provide reduced light pollution for the surrounding neighborhoods. A small section of concrete paving will occur on the north end of the I-190 structure and North Street including a barrier wall and glare screen.
Project Timeline:
March 2024 - Nov. 2024
Project Contract Amount:
$10.6 Million
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 04, 2024, 03:02:13 AM
Once construction wraps up in Fall 2025, this will be the 4th DDI in South Dakota, with three of them being in the Sioux Falls metro area.
Are DDIs becoming a popular interchange type for South Dakota, because they just built a few of them within a few years?
Brandon will be the 4th of 5 planned, Box Elder is also planning to convert Exit 63 into a DDI in I think 2026.
I think the main reason they're popular here is because they're cheaper to build than an SPUI, SD's former interchange of choice for large amounts of traffic
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 04, 2024, 03:02:13 AMOne of the major projects in South Dakota just got underway this year: I-90 Exit 406 (Brandon) interchange reconstruction to a DDI...
From SDDOT: https://dot.sd.gov/i90-exit406-brandon-pcn-4433
Project Summary:
This project includes the reconstruction of exit 406 (Brandon) with added lighting, signals, and mainline Interstate work. This project also includes three structure replacements.
The interchange will be reconstructed as a diverging diamond configuration.
Westbound Interstate 90 lanes (along with the railroad structure on I90) will be reconstructed in 2024 and the eastbound lanes (and railroad structure in 2025). The interchange itself and new structure over I90 will be reconstructed between 2024 and 2025.
S.D. Highway 11 traffic will be maintained across Interstate 90 during construction.
The westbound on-ramp and eastbound off-ramp are expected to be open to traffic for the majority of the project. Closures for the westbound off-ramp and eastbound on-ramp are planned for 2025.
Work will extend on S.D. Highway 11 down to Redwood Boulevard.
Once construction wraps up in Fall 2025, this will be the 4th DDI in South Dakota, with three of them being in the Sioux Falls metro area.
Are DDIs becoming a popular interchange type for South Dakota, because they just built a few of them within a few years?
Quote from: X99 on March 04, 2024, 12:29:56 PMQuote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 04, 2024, 03:02:13 AMOnce construction wraps up in Fall 2025, this will be the 4th DDI in South Dakota, with three of them being in the Sioux Falls metro area.
Are DDIs becoming a popular interchange type for South Dakota, because they just built a few of them within a few years?
Brandon will be the 4th of 5 planned, Box Elder is also planning to convert Exit 63 into a DDI in I think 2026.
I think the main reason they're popular here is because they're cheaper to build than an SPUI, SD's former interchange of choice for large amounts of traffic
So I know for the 41st St one, the SPUI alternative would have performed better, but it would have required running I-29 over 41st, and DOT didn't want to rebuild the interstate pavement it recently rebuilt. Can't necessarily say to the cost but from what I remember from the others they all have other design considerations pushing DDI over SPUI.
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 04, 2024, 03:02:13 AMOne of the major projects in South Dakota just got underway this year: I-90 Exit 406 (Brandon) interchange reconstruction to a DDI...
From SDDOT: https://dot.sd.gov/i90-exit406-brandon-pcn-4433
Project Summary:
This project includes the reconstruction of exit 406 (Brandon) with added lighting, signals, and mainline Interstate work. This project also includes three structure replacements.
The interchange will be reconstructed as a diverging diamond configuration.
Westbound Interstate 90 lanes (along with the railroad structure on I90) will be reconstructed in 2024 and the eastbound lanes (and railroad structure in 2025). The interchange itself and new structure over I90 will be reconstructed between 2024 and 2025.
S.D. Highway 11 traffic will be maintained across Interstate 90 during construction.
The westbound on-ramp and eastbound off-ramp are expected to be open to traffic for the majority of the project. Closures for the westbound off-ramp and eastbound on-ramp are planned for 2025.
Work will extend on S.D. Highway 11 down to Redwood Boulevard.
This is desperately needed, Brandon is one of the largest cities in the state and the only exit is a glorified rural diamond. I've run over that bridge and it's not very fun. 11 down to Redwood replacement is just icing on the cake.
I am currently on vacation in South Dakota with my mother, my aunt and my uncle. We are staying in Keystone, and have already made two trips to Mount Rushmore. We took a 30-minute helicopter ride over the area, and we traveled along SD 87 through the Custer State Park. We saw buffalo, deer and prairie dogs in the park, and my mother and aunt took a lot of pictures. We plan to remain in the area for a couple more days before heading home.