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Started by hotdogPi, December 22, 2013, 09:04:24 PM

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bluecountry

Quote from: 02 Park Ave on September 17, 2022, 11:54:05 AM
A Turnpike southbound to I-295 southbound/I-295 northbound to Turnpike northbound connection at Woodcrest would alleviate traffic on the Turnpike and eliminate the need for extravagant widening south of there.
Yeh there should definitely be a connection between 95 in NJ and 295 by exit 6.


bluecountry

Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: bluecountry on September 19, 2022, 07:33:54 AM
Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

I'm guessing that since there is now a literal link between the Turnpike and 95 to Philadelphia that the signage would follow.

famartin

Quote from: bluecountry on September 19, 2022, 07:33:54 AM
Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

GSV hasn't been updated for about a year so pics would be nice (tho I'm not really that far away so if I cared enuf...)

bluecountry

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on September 19, 2022, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 19, 2022, 07:33:54 AM
Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

I'm guessing that since there is now a literal link between the Turnpike and 95 to Philadelphia that the signage would follow.
So are they going to start doing this with all replacement signs?
That 'Trenton' directional city always irritated me.

PHLBOS

Quote from: bluecountry on September 29, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on September 19, 2022, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 19, 2022, 07:33:54 AM
Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

I'm guessing that since there is now a literal link between the Turnpike and 95 to Philadelphia that the signage would follow.
So are they going to start doing this with all replacement signs?
That 'Trenton' directional city always irritated me.
I believe such, the placing of Philadelphia on southbound pull-through signs (thus far), only took place at interchanges 7A & 7 where the previous legend listed Camden.  As of 2 weeks ago (Sept. 16), the ramp sign for I-95/NJTP southbound from the Exit 7A toll plaza still listed Camden.

While the reasoning for using Philly is obvious; given that this stretch of highway north of Exit 6 is technically a concurrency (I-95 & NJTP), it would've been better IMHO to use a 2-line Philadelphia/Wilmington legend (yes, such would mean replacement sign panels) at those locations.

The use of Trenton on southbound signage north of Exit 7A still makes sense because Trenton is NJ's capital & one has a direct connection to it from I-95/NJTP via I-195/NJ 29.  Yes, I'm aware of the placement of Philadelphia on the GSP southbound signage for Exit 129 but the northbound signage as well as the ramp signage from the toll plaza still lists Trenton.
___________________________________________

Moving further south to Exit 5: why were the overhead interchange signs, in both directions, replaced with ground-mounted 1/4-mile advance signs (still no CR 537 shields) within the past year?  Interestingly, if not ironically, the now-gone southbound NJTP pull-through BGS at this interchange went from listing Wilmington to Camden.

GPS does NOT equal GOD

storm2k

Quote from: PHLBOS on September 30, 2022, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 29, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on September 19, 2022, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 19, 2022, 07:33:54 AM
Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

I'm guessing that since there is now a literal link between the Turnpike and 95 to Philadelphia that the signage would follow.
So are they going to start doing this with all replacement signs?
That 'Trenton' directional city always irritated me.
I believe such, the placing of Philadelphia on southbound pull-through signs (thus far), only took place at interchanges 7A & 7 where the previous legend listed Camden.  As of 2 weeks ago (Sept. 16), the ramp sign for I-95/NJTP southbound from the Exit 7A toll plaza still listed Camden.

While the reasoning for using Philly is obvious; given that this stretch of highway north of Exit 6 is technically a concurrency (I-95 & NJTP), it would've been better IMHO to use a 2-line Philadelphia/Wilmington legend (yes, such would mean replacement sign panels) at those locations.

The use of Trenton on southbound signage north of Exit 7A still makes sense because Trenton is NJ's capital & one has a direct connection to it from I-95/NJTP via I-195/NJ 29.  Yes, I'm aware of the placement of Philadelphia on the GSP southbound signage for Exit 129 but the northbound signage as well as the ramp signage from the toll plaza still lists Trenton.
___________________________________________

Moving further south to Exit 5: why were the overhead interchange signs, in both directions, replaced with ground-mounted 1/4-mile advance signs (still no CR 537 shields) within the past year?  Interestingly, if not ironically, the now-gone southbound NJTP pull-through BGS at this interchange went from listing Wilmington to Camden.



I believe those structures were due to be replaced, they were old (they were the older galvanized ones and not the newer pre-rusted ones). Not sure why they didn't put up new overhead structures there, but they may do that later on. Even on the southern section of the roadway south of the dual-dual lanes where they're pretty content with the advance approach signage being ground mount, they still put the exit point signage on overhead structures.

DrSmith

Quote from: storm2k on September 30, 2022, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 30, 2022, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 29, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on September 19, 2022, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 19, 2022, 07:33:54 AM
Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

I'm guessing that since there is now a literal link between the Turnpike and 95 to Philadelphia that the signage would follow.
So are they going to start doing this with all replacement signs?
That 'Trenton' directional city always irritated me.
I believe such, the placing of Philadelphia on southbound pull-through signs (thus far), only took place at interchanges 7A & 7 where the previous legend listed Camden.  As of 2 weeks ago (Sept. 16), the ramp sign for I-95/NJTP southbound from the Exit 7A toll plaza still listed Camden.

While the reasoning for using Philly is obvious; given that this stretch of highway north of Exit 6 is technically a concurrency (I-95 & NJTP), it would've been better IMHO to use a 2-line Philadelphia/Wilmington legend (yes, such would mean replacement sign panels) at those locations.

The use of Trenton on southbound signage north of Exit 7A still makes sense because Trenton is NJ's capital & one has a direct connection to it from I-95/NJTP via I-195/NJ 29.  Yes, I'm aware of the placement of Philadelphia on the GSP southbound signage for Exit 129 but the northbound signage as well as the ramp signage from the toll plaza still lists Trenton.
___________________________________________

Moving further south to Exit 5: why were the overhead interchange signs, in both directions, replaced with ground-mounted 1/4-mile advance signs (still no CR 537 shields) within the past year?  Interestingly, if not ironically, the now-gone southbound NJTP pull-through BGS at this interchange went from listing Wilmington to Camden.



I believe those structures were due to be replaced, they were old (they were the older galvanized ones and not the newer pre-rusted ones). Not sure why they didn't put up new overhead structures there, but they may do that later on. Even on the southern section of the roadway south of the dual-dual lanes where they're pretty content with the advance approach signage being ground mount, they still put the exit point signage on overhead structures.

As it is installed on wooden posts, that may mean this is temporary until foundations are done for a permanent structure.

jeffandnicole

At the same meeting the Turnpike Authority awarded the bid for going cashless on its highways, they also approved a bid to demolish the Turnpike's original administration building still seen at Interchange 9.  The contract calls for the building to be demolished over the next year, although first some hazardous materials including asbestos, lead and mold will need to be removed first.  It'll then be available for 'redevelopment', but doesn't go into more specifics than that.

odditude

Quote from: PHLBOS on September 30, 2022, 09:50:18 PM
Moving further south to Exit 5: why were the overhead interchange signs, in both directions, replaced with ground-mounted 1/4-mile advance signs (still no CR 537 shields) within the past year?  Interestingly, if not ironically, the now-gone southbound NJTP pull-through BGS at this interchange went from listing Wilmington to Camden.

exit 5 is 541; exit 7A is 537. same applies, though.

Alps

Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 01, 2022, 02:30:38 PM
At the same meeting the Turnpike Authority awarded the bid for going cashless on its highways, they also approved a bid to demolish the Turnpike's original administration building still seen at Interchange 9.  The contract calls for the building to be demolished over the next year, although first some hazardous materials including asbestos, lead and mold will need to be removed first.  It'll then be available for 'redevelopment', but doesn't go into more specifics than that.
That's sad. I've actually been there. RIP history.

famartin

Quote from: odditude on October 01, 2022, 03:04:01 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 30, 2022, 09:50:18 PM
Moving further south to Exit 5: why were the overhead interchange signs, in both directions, replaced with ground-mounted 1/4-mile advance signs (still no CR 537 shields) within the past year?  Interestingly, if not ironically, the now-gone southbound NJTP pull-through BGS at this interchange went from listing Wilmington to Camden.

exit 5 is 541; exit 7A is 537. same applies, though.

7A is 526 if anything. 537 is closest to 4.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Alps on October 02, 2022, 08:06:11 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 01, 2022, 02:30:38 PM
At the same meeting the Turnpike Authority awarded the bid for going cashless on its highways, they also approved a bid to demolish the Turnpike's original administration building still seen at Interchange 9.  The contract calls for the building to be demolished over the next year, although first some hazardous materials including asbestos, lead and mold will need to be removed first.  It'll then be available for 'redevelopment', but doesn't go into more specifics than that.
That's sad. I've actually been there. RIP history.

Been in there twice for interviews: P/T toll collector; F/T Accountant which I determined would be too far of a drive everyday...and that's before they moved admin to Woodbridge.

Rothman

Wonder when the NY Thruway Admin building will be renovated or demolished.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Alps

Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 02, 2022, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Alps on October 02, 2022, 08:06:11 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 01, 2022, 02:30:38 PM
At the same meeting the Turnpike Authority awarded the bid for going cashless on its highways, they also approved a bid to demolish the Turnpike's original administration building still seen at Interchange 9.  The contract calls for the building to be demolished over the next year, although first some hazardous materials including asbestos, lead and mold will need to be removed first.  It'll then be available for 'redevelopment', but doesn't go into more specifics than that.
That's sad. I've actually been there. RIP history.

Been in there twice for interviews: P/T toll collector; F/T Accountant which I determined would be too far of a drive everyday...and that's before they moved admin to Woodbridge.
IIRC after Woodbridge the old parkway building was still used for administrative meetings.

odditude

Quote from: famartin on October 02, 2022, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: odditude on October 01, 2022, 03:04:01 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 30, 2022, 09:50:18 PM
Moving further south to Exit 5: why were the overhead interchange signs, in both directions, replaced with ground-mounted 1/4-mile advance signs (still no CR 537 shields) within the past year?  Interestingly, if not ironically, the now-gone southbound NJTP pull-through BGS at this interchange went from listing Wilmington to Camden.

exit 5 is 541; exit 7A is 537. same applies, though.

7A is 526 if anything. 537 is closest to 4.
yeah, i'm an idiot; 7A is I-195, of course. 537 passes under the Turnpike very close to NJ 38's overpass.

i had a brain fart and was thinking 7A provide *direct* access to Six Flags, which is on 537 via 195.

roadman65

I think we all know what you meant. CR 541 has not had a shield since as long as I can remember.   It seems signing county routes is not a thing NJTA likes on the Turnpike. However I'm surprised that the SB ramp to NJ 140 further south got CR 540 shields on that, as for years even NJ 140 never got mentioned.

It was "Penns Grove" Deepwater only on the original gore sign beyond the former Exit 1 Plaza for many decades.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: roadman65 on October 03, 2022, 07:08:12 PM
I think we all know what you meant. CR 541 has not had a shield since as long as I can remember.   It seems signing county routes is not a thing NJTA likes on the Turnpike. However I'm surprised that the SB ramp to NJ 140 further south got CR 540 shields on that, as for years even NJ 140 never got mentioned.

It was "Penns Grove" Deepwater only on the original gore sign beyond the former Exit 1 Plaza for many decades.

NJTA does sign CR's on the post-plaza ramps at 10 and 8A.

bluecountry

Quote from: PHLBOS on September 30, 2022, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 29, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on September 19, 2022, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on September 19, 2022, 07:33:54 AM
Anybody else notice SB before exit 7A the NJTP is signed as 'Philadelphia'?
Are they gradually finally adding Philly as the control city?

I'm guessing that since there is now a literal link between the Turnpike and 95 to Philadelphia that the signage would follow.
So are they going to start doing this with all replacement signs?
That 'Trenton' directional city always irritated me.
I believe such, the placing of Philadelphia on southbound pull-through signs (thus far), only took place at interchanges 7A & 7 where the previous legend listed Camden.  As of 2 weeks ago (Sept. 16), the ramp sign for I-95/NJTP southbound from the Exit 7A toll plaza still listed Camden.

While the reasoning for using Philly is obvious; given that this stretch of highway north of Exit 6 is technically a concurrency (I-95 & NJTP), it would've been better IMHO to use a 2-line Philadelphia/Wilmington legend (yes, such would mean replacement sign panels) at those locations.

The use of Trenton on southbound signage north of Exit 7A still makes sense because Trenton is NJ's capital & one has a direct connection to it from I-95/NJTP via I-195/NJ 29.  Yes, I'm aware of the placement of Philadelphia on the GSP southbound signage for Exit 129 but the northbound signage as well as the ramp signage from the toll plaza still lists Trenton.
___________________________________________

Moving further south to Exit 5: why were the overhead interchange signs, in both directions, replaced with ground-mounted 1/4-mile advance signs (still no CR 537 shields) within the past year?  Interestingly, if not ironically, the now-gone southbound NJTP pull-through BGS at this interchange went from listing Wilmington to Camden.
I disagree on Trenton, it is not a major destination, and there is not a direct route, 95 doesn't got there and I-195 does not either.
By your logic, 95NB should list 'Newark' before NYC.


odditude

Quote from: bluecountry on October 08, 2022, 07:24:43 PM
I disagree on Trenton, it is not a major destination, and there is not a direct route, 95 doesn't got there and I-195 does not either.
saying "I-195 doesn't go to Trenton" is the same kind of missing-the-forest-for-the-trees logic that "I-80 doesn't go to New York City" is.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: odditude on October 10, 2022, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on October 08, 2022, 07:24:43 PM
I disagree on Trenton, it is not a major destination, and there is not a direct route, 95 doesn't got there and I-195 does not either.
saying "I-195 doesn't go to Trenton" is the same kind of missing-the-forest-for-the-trees logic that "I-80 doesn't go to New York City" is.

Or the NJ Turnpike NB doesn't go to NYC (from the Delaware Memorial Bridge), nor does it go to Camden and Wilmington SB. The AC Expressway doesn't go to Camden WB. NJ 42 doesn't go to Philadelphia, Camden, or the bridges.  The GS Parkway doesn't go to Cape May. NJ 55 doesn't go to Bellmawr and Camden. The list really goes on and on...

D-Dey65

I just found out the toll plazas near Secaucus Junction no longer accept cash. Are there any toll plazas on the Turnpike that still do?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Approaching_NJ_Turnpike_exit_15X_tollbooth_(3),_April_2022.jpg

I also see a big problem with the newer VMS signs; frequent pixelation;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Jersey_Turnpike_North_-_MM49_Car_Truck_Lane_Splits_(49818419752).jpg

Alps

Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 11, 2022, 12:18:38 AM
I just found out the toll plazas near Secaucus Junction no longer accept cash. Are there any toll plazas on the Turnpike that still do?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Approaching_NJ_Turnpike_exit_15X_tollbooth_(3),_April_2022.jpg

I also see a big problem with the newer VMS signs; frequent pixelation;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Jersey_Turnpike_North_-_MM49_Car_Truck_Lane_Splits_(49818419752).jpg
Um - the first one approaches the ENTRY. You don't pay to enter. You take a ticket. The second one is the CAMERA problem, not the VMS.

Mr. Matté

Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 11, 2022, 12:18:38 AM
I just found out the toll plazas near Secaucus Junction no longer accept cash. Are there any toll plazas on the Turnpike that still do?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Approaching_NJ_Turnpike_exit_15X_tollbooth_(3),_April_2022.jpg

I also see a big problem with the newer VMS signs; frequent pixelation;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Jersey_Turnpike_North_-_MM49_Car_Truck_Lane_Splits_(49818419752).jpg

First pic (at least it's mine :) ) is really just a faded E-ZPass logo (since ticket grabbing/cash payments can't be done in the E-ZPass only lanes), second is just 60 Hz mains electricity in action.

D-Dey65

Quote from: Alps on October 11, 2022, 12:20:38 AM
The second one is the CAMERA problem, not the VMS.
I hate to say this, but I've seen that without any cameras too.



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