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Quote from: US71 on March 02, 2021, 05:36:22 PMQuote from: silverback1065 on March 02, 2021, 05:25:14 PMi thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?That is what I have heard, but I know of no plans to upgrade 171/old 71Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only thing that needs to be done for this to happen is a free flow interchange from the existing I-49 mainline to MO 171, right?
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 02, 2021, 05:25:14 PMi thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?That is what I have heard, but I know of no plans to upgrade 171/old 71
i thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?
Quote from: I-39 on March 02, 2021, 05:41:32 PMQuote from: US71 on March 02, 2021, 05:36:22 PMQuote from: silverback1065 on March 02, 2021, 05:25:14 PMi thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?That is what I have heard, but I know of no plans to upgrade 171/old 71Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only thing that needs to be done for this to happen is a free flow interchange from the existing I-49 mainline to MO 171, right?To my knowledge, yes. I saw a diagram a while back of how to connect 49 with Loop 49/171 , but don't remember where I saw it.
Quote from: US71 on March 02, 2021, 05:49:40 PMQuote from: I-39 on March 02, 2021, 05:41:32 PMQuote from: US71 on March 02, 2021, 05:36:22 PMQuote from: silverback1065 on March 02, 2021, 05:25:14 PMi thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?That is what I have heard, but I know of no plans to upgrade 171/old 71Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only thing that needs to be done for this to happen is a free flow interchange from the existing I-49 mainline to MO 171, right?To my knowledge, yes. I saw a diagram a while back of how to connect 49 with Loop 49/171 , but don't remember where I saw it.If MoDOT has mothballed (or simply procrastinated to a functional death) the plans to convert 249/171 into an alternative I-49 alignment, couldn't the present north/east 44/49 interchange be improved with a E>N flyover and S>W ramp improvement? Might be a cost-effective alternative to the 249-based alignment.
Nah, it would be better to do the 249/171 alignment as it would eliminate a multiplex with a busy Interstate (I-44). Multiplexes should be avoided if possible.
Quote from: I-39 on March 02, 2021, 06:59:50 PMNah, it would be better to do the 249/171 alignment as it would eliminate a multiplex with a busy Interstate (I-44). Multiplexes should be avoided if possible.IF 249/171 is upgraded, would the current alignment north of Diamond/south of Cartage become an extension of MO 59 like when Alt 71 was decommissioned?
Quote from: US71 on March 02, 2021, 10:05:12 PMQuote from: I-39 on March 02, 2021, 06:59:50 PMNah, it would be better to do the 249/171 alignment as it would eliminate a multiplex with a busy Interstate (I-44). Multiplexes should be avoided if possible.IF 249/171 is upgraded, would the current alignment north of Diamond/south of Cartage become an extension of MO 59 like when Alt 71 was decommissioned?If that happens, I hope they still keep that section as a 3di. It’s still a useful way to get to I-44 if someone is heading to points east of Joplin.
Wow talk about overbuild. US 71 was upgraded in stages over these years and then now that I-49 is in the area someone feels the need for a I-249? Why the overbuild?
I just checked MoDOT's website: https://www.modot.org/i-49-missouriarkansas-connectorThey are saying completion is scheduled for Sept. 30, 2021 I'm sure if the weather continues to be relatively mild, it may be sooner.
I say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on March 05, 2021, 01:33:52 PMI say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.Too late, it'll be gone shortly. I-49 will join the Continuum from KC suburbs to Ft. Smith.
Quote from: sturmde on March 05, 2021, 02:20:38 PMQuote from: Avalanchez71 on March 05, 2021, 01:33:52 PMI say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.Too late, it'll be gone shortly. I-49 will join the Continuum from KC suburbs to Ft. Smith. 49 ends at Alma. You have to follow 40/540/71 to Ft Smith
Quote from: US71 on March 05, 2021, 03:01:09 PMQuote from: sturmde on March 05, 2021, 02:20:38 PMQuote from: Avalanchez71 on March 05, 2021, 01:33:52 PMI say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.Too late, it'll be gone shortly. I-49 will join the Continuum from KC suburbs to Ft. Smith. 49 ends at Alma. You have to follow 40/540/71 to Ft Smith Sort of. There's the AR-549 (Future I-49) stretch from AR-22 to US-71 south of Ft. Smith. If they'd ever build the stinking bridge and the dozen miles through the bottoms, it would be to Ft. Smith.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on March 05, 2021, 01:33:52 PMI say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.Why?
Quote from: US71 on March 05, 2021, 02:00:30 PMQuote from: Avalanchez71 on March 05, 2021, 01:33:52 PMI say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.Why?Because that user is a serial complainer that thinks the whole US highway system is overbuilt. He probably thinks the existing road through Bella Vista should be a narrow 9ft two lane highway.
Quote from: I-39 on March 05, 2021, 05:55:51 PMQuote from: US71 on March 05, 2021, 02:00:30 PMQuote from: Avalanchez71 on March 05, 2021, 01:33:52 PMI say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.Why?Because that user is a serial complainer that thinks the whole US highway system is overbuilt. He probably thinks the existing road through Bella Vista should be a narrow 9ft two lane highway.Bella Vista is a clusterf*ck. When US71 was widened in the 70's, there was almost no allowance to make it controlled access, so all the businesses built too close to the road.
Quote from: US71 on March 05, 2021, 06:49:50 PMQuote from: I-39 on March 05, 2021, 05:55:51 PMQuote from: US71 on March 05, 2021, 02:00:30 PMQuote from: Avalanchez71 on March 05, 2021, 01:33:52 PMI say keep the Bella Vista Breezewood.Why?Because that user is a serial complainer that thinks the whole US highway system is overbuilt. He probably thinks the existing road through Bella Vista should be a narrow 9ft two lane highway.Bella Vista is a clusterf*ck. When US71 was widened in the 70's, there was almost no allowance to make it controlled access, so all the businesses built too close to the road.I agree. My previous post was being sarcastic. That user has a history of posting negative comments against critically needed projects and it’s getting annoying. Last week, he basically said I-65 should only be four lanes (two in each direction) in Williamson County, TN (Nashville suburbs). I can’t really tell if he’s a troll or is being serious.
Today, I managed to make it up to Missouri to check the progress of I-49.The interchange at MO 90 near Noel appears to be almost ready for paving.There is a flyover under construction on I-49 at US 71, I'm guessing for NB 49 to merge with NB 71. I did manage to get photos, which I will post on the I-49 Fakebook page in the next day or two.