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Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« on: July 20, 2020, 05:16:13 PM »

Does anyone know of a better way, other than Wikipedia, of finding out what US routes have Split routes? Like US 31E-US 31W for example. Existing and former ones are requested. Looking up each one individually is taking a long time. Or if you know examples, please list them here. Also, the Alternate, Bypass and Business routes. I got the list of existing and former US Routes.

This is for working on the US Route Reworked project I am working on in the Fiction section.

I appreciate the feedback.


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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2020, 07:14:29 PM »

Adding in former Toll US Routes, like Toll US 41 and Toll US 30 in Illinois?
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2020, 07:30:28 PM »

Adding in former Toll US Routes, like Toll US 41 and Toll US 30 in Illinois?
Yes those too. I do have those.
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2020, 10:56:37 PM »

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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2020, 06:09:38 PM »

E-W splits.

11, 19, 25, 31, 45, 49.

N-S splits.

70 (which is unusual in that it didn't split into two branches, but it kept the main number along with the N and S branches. Also, the N and S split routes begin and end at different places.

There are business and/or bypass routes in Kentucky for a number of US routes. Some routes have multiple of them. The only alternates we have in Kentucky are 41 (two of them) and 60.

Back in the 60s and 70s, North Carolina used to split US routes into Business and By-Pass banners. There was no straight non-bannered route with one bannered route. Kentucky doesn't split into Business and By-Pass (although some locations may be signed that way.) You either have the "plain" route and a Business designation (designated nnX in official logs), or the "plain" route and a By-Pass designation (designated nnB).
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2020, 08:15:11 PM »

Would 9 and 9W in the Hudson River valley be part of this?
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2020, 11:20:17 AM »

Would 9 and 9W in the Hudson River valley be part of this?

Also US 6 and US 6N in PA
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2020, 11:45:08 AM »

This would be a good starting point: https://web.archive.org/web/20150929034731/http://www.us-highways.com/usban.htm

Thanks. This helps a lot.

The list on us-highways.com misses a TON of bannered (mostly ALT) routes from SC, NC and VA that used to exist...
To get these, go http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/index.htm , http://www.vahighways.com/ncannex/route-log/index.html and http://www.vahighways.com/scannex/route-log/index.htm

I probably have not found all the South Carolina ALT routes either...
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2020, 01:41:01 PM »

JP and M3100, yes. Those examples have been added to the list I am working from.
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2020, 01:41:54 PM »

This would be a good starting point: https://web.archive.org/web/20150929034731/http://www.us-highways.com/usban.htm

Thanks. This helps a lot.

The list on us-highways.com misses a TON of bannered (mostly ALT) routes from SC, NC and VA that used to exist...
To get these, go http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/index.htm , http://www.vahighways.com/ncannex/route-log/index.html and http://www.vahighways.com/scannex/route-log/index.htm

I probably have not found all the South Carolina ALT routes either...
Thanks Mikey.
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2020, 04:08:10 PM »

A year by year of the former ALT-US-24 in Michigan can be found here:
http://www.michiganhighways.org/listings/MichHwysBus2-31.html#US-24CONN-E
ALT-US-24 For the years 1955-62:
http://www.michiganhighways.org/listings/I-075.html
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Re: Split US Routes and other Banner Routes.
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2020, 05:32:03 PM »

Back in the 60s and 70s, North Carolina used to split US routes into Business and By-Pass banners. There was no straight non-bannered route with one bannered route. Kentucky doesn't split into Business and By-Pass (although some locations may be signed that way.) You either have the "plain" route and a Business designation (designated nnX in official logs), or the "plain" route and a By-Pass designation (designated nnB).

A few days ago, I was reminded that US-501 north of Durham is still separated into By-Pass US-501 (Duke Street) and Business US-501 (North Roxboro Street).  But once it hits I-85, the By-Pass banner is dropped and it becomes a plain route I-85/US-70/US-15/US-501.  After the unmarked Western Boulevard splits off, it simply becomes US-15/US-501 (locally known as "Fifteen-Five-O-One").  Since the northernmost section of 15-501 runs between Duke and UNC, a friend of mine always asks me if this is the real "Tobacco Road", to which I answer "perhaps".
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