Quebec's Highways

[Stephane Dumas]

Some new shots of A-35 near Pike River filmed in late October.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8BDXfwgcBc

[Stephane Dumas]

GSV show a view of the construction of the flyover ramp who'll go from A-440 west to A-15 north taken last November.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/PeBAGVDG65kUE5F9A

[AsphaltPlanet]

Autoroute 13 in Laval, Quebec:


http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/PQ/A/13/A13_cl_17_north_NB_t_Aug21_42x28.png

[roadman65]

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/meet-fred-quebec-s-latest-school-zone-traffic-light-that-leaves-speeding-drivers-on-red-1.6378486

This webpage goes back to an earlier 2023 installment of a traffic signal in Broussard that remains red until an approaching car slows down to a certain speed limit. To me personally it can only work on lightly traveled two lane roads, but the media in Montreal wants to bring it out again.  I'm guessing in this situation FRED is gone past the experimental stage with flying colors.

[vdeane]

The next segment of A-70 is under construction.  Construction of the whole project is scheduled to last through 2028.

https://www.quebec.ca/transports/projets-routiers/saguenay-lac-saint-jean/autoroute-70-grande-anse-la-baie-construction

[Richard3]

The next segment of A-70 is under construction.  Construction of the whole project is scheduled to last through 2028.

https://www.quebec.ca/transports/projets-routiers/saguenay-lac-saint-jean/autoroute-70-grande-anse-la-baie-construction

Construction industry, at least in province of Quebec, is not the same than it was some decades ago; this section of freeway is about 4.3 miles, and will take over 5 years to be completed. Because when the MTQ says 2028, we can figure out that will not be January. A Quebec TV host said, some times ago, that if Quebec have to rebuilt James Bay complex, it would take a whole century.

[Chris]

Construction industry, at least in province of Quebec, is not the same than it was some decades ago; this section of freeway is about 4.3 miles, and will take over 5 years to be completed.

This trend can also be seen in Europe, where projects that used to take 2 - 2.5 years now take 4 or 5 years (or 8-10 years in Germany and Switzerland).

I don't quite understand what's behind this. It's a recent phenomenon, mainly from the past 10 years or so.

They're talking about robotization and digitalization to boost productivity in the construction sector, but the opposite is happening.

More environmental or labor law regulations? Lower road spending as a percentage of GDP? Less productive workers? Complex contract terms?

[LilianaUwU]

Seems as though A-915 was commissioned on the Sortie 45 spur of A-15 in Saint-Jérôme, per the Atlas des Transports. I can confirm that it's unsigned as of last month, though.

[andrepoiy]

Seems as though A-915 was commissioned on the Sortie 45 spur of A-15 in Saint-Jérôme, per the Atlas des Transports. I can confirm that it's unsigned as of last month, though.

What was it referred to before A-915? I remember seeing this on the map and wondering what it was called

[LilianaUwU]

Seems as though A-915 was commissioned on the Sortie 45 spur of A-15 in Saint-Jérôme, per the Atlas des Transports. I can confirm that it's unsigned as of last month, though.

What was it referred to before A-915? I remember seeing this on the map and wondering what it was called

Pretty sure it was a reference number before.

[Stephane Dumas]

Seems as though A-915 was commissioned on the Sortie 45 spur of A-15 in Saint-Jérôme, per the Atlas des Transports. I can confirm that it's unsigned as of last month, though.

What was it referred to before A-915? I remember seeing this on the map and wondering what it was called

Pretty sure it was a reference number before.

Yes or a secret number from what I saw on that document. https://www.transports.gouv.qc.ca/fr/ministere/acces-information-renseignements-personnels/documents-reglement-diffusion/demande-acces/Documents/2023/11/DA-2023-2024-00387%20-%20Liste_routes%20sous%20juridiction%20du%20MTMD.pdf

Btw, I saw this French article about TCH-117 upcoming improvements between Rouyn-Noranda and Val-d'Or posted last January. https://www.noovo.info/nouvelle/la-route-117-metamorphosee-entre-rouyn-noranda-et-val-dor.html

[LilianaUwU]

The caquiste government wants to turn Autoroute Dufferin-Montmorency (one of many A-440) into an urban boulevard:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2024/04/03/dufferin-montmorency--le-gouvernement-sengage-a-convertir-lautoroute-en-boulevard-urbain

As if traffic wasn't already garbage in this city.

[vdeane]

The caquiste government wants to turn Autoroute Dufferin-Montmorency (one of many A-440) into an urban boulevard:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2024/04/03/dufferin-montmorency--le-gouvernement-sengage-a-convertir-lautoroute-en-boulevard-urbain

As if traffic wasn't already garbage in this city.

Well, that's unexpected.  I never saw Legault as the highway removal type.

[LilianaUwU]

The caquiste government wants to turn Autoroute Dufferin-Montmorency (one of many A-440) into an urban boulevard:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2024/04/03/dufferin-montmorency--le-gouvernement-sengage-a-convertir-lautoroute-en-boulevard-urbain

As if traffic wasn't already garbage in this city.

Well, that's unexpected.  I never saw Legault as the highway removal type.

Me neither. For what it's worth, this is after one (1) accident resulting in the death of a family, which is the fault of a drunk driver going the wrong way at the Boulevard François-de-Laval intersection. Obviously the solution to this accident at an intersection is to put MORE intersections!

[vdeane]

For what it's worth, this is after one (1) accident resulting in the death of a family, which is the fault of a drunk driver going the wrong way at the Boulevard François-de-Laval intersection. Obviously the solution to this accident at an intersection is to put MORE intersections!

Reminds me of when Cuomo decided to solve a crash caused by a lack of guiderail with a speed limit reduction and replacing acceleration lanes with stop signs.

[LilianaUwU]

Anyways, the obvious solution on A-440 is to, y'know, have an interchange at Boulevard François-de-Laval. If that can't be done, dead end the boulevard, or have a right-in/right-out.

[74/171FAN]

For what it's worth, this is after one (1) accident resulting in the death of a family, which is the fault of a drunk driver going the wrong way at the Boulevard François-de-Laval intersection. Obviously the solution to this accident at an intersection is to put MORE intersections!

Reminds me of when Cuomo decided to solve a crash caused by a lack of guiderail with a speed limit reduction and replacing acceleration lanes with stop signs.

I presume you are referring to NY 198.

[Stephane Dumas]

I guess the folks who pushed for Champlain Blvd "upgrade" into a scenic highway might have pushed the same for Dufferin-Montmorency.

[vdeane]

Anyways, the obvious solution on A-440 is to, y'know, have an interchange at Boulevard François-de-Laval. If that can't be done, dead end the boulevard, or have a right-in/right-out.

Why haven't they done that by now?  I honestly don't understand why that at-grade exists.  It isn't that far from the adjacent interchanges and doesn't seem to provide access to anywhere they don't.

[LilianaUwU]

Anyways, the obvious solution on A-440 is to, y'know, have an interchange at Boulevard François-de-Laval. If that can't be done, dead end the boulevard, or have a right-in/right-out.

Why haven't they done that by now?  I honestly don't understand why that at-grade exists.  It isn't that far from the adjacent interchanges and doesn't seem to provide access to anywhere they don't.

I don't know. There might be too much traffic at that specific spot.

[Richard3]

Anyways, the obvious solution on A-440 is to, y'know, have an interchange at Boulevard François-de-Laval. If that can't be done, dead end the boulevard, or have a right-in/right-out.

I'm in to dead end the F-d-L boulevard at boulevard Ste-Anne. It's not like the other interchanges were so far away.

[Stephane Dumas]

There was another protest against A-20 extension at Notre-Dame-des-Neiges from what I read on these French articles suggesting instead improving PQ-132.
https://www.infodimanche.com/actualites/actualite/608431/une-mobilisation-contre-lautoroute-20-a-notre-dame-des-neiges
https://www.msn.com/fr-ca/actualites/quebec-canada/les-opposants-au-prolongement-de-l-a-20-se-font-encore-entendre/ar-BB1lbAgV

They should have a chat with the folks who can't stand 18-wheels trucks anymore.
https://www.msn.com/fr-ca/actualites/est-du-quebec/exc%C3%A9d%C3%A9s-par-le-bruit-des-citoyens-r%C3%A9clament-lautoroute-20-%C3%A0-saint-fabien/ar-AA1eYxio

[LilianaUwU]

There was another protest against A-20 extension at Notre-Dame-des-Neiges from what I read on these French articles suggesting instead improving PQ-132.
https://www.infodimanche.com/actualites/actualite/608431/une-mobilisation-contre-lautoroute-20-a-notre-dame-des-neiges
https://www.msn.com/fr-ca/actualites/quebec-canada/les-opposants-au-prolongement-de-l-a-20-se-font-encore-entendre/ar-BB1lbAgV

They should have a chat with the folks who can't stand 18-wheels trucks anymore.
https://www.msn.com/fr-ca/actualites/est-du-quebec/exc%C3%A9d%C3%A9s-par-le-bruit-des-citoyens-r%C3%A9clament-lautoroute-20-%C3%A0-saint-fabien/ar-AA1eYxio

Those protesters really said "let's half-ass this so people keep dying".

[Stephane Dumas]

There was another protest against A-20 extension at Notre-Dame-des-Neiges from what I read on these French articles suggesting instead improving PQ-132.
https://www.infodimanche.com/actualites/actualite/608431/une-mobilisation-contre-lautoroute-20-a-notre-dame-des-neiges
https://www.msn.com/fr-ca/actualites/quebec-canada/les-opposants-au-prolongement-de-l-a-20-se-font-encore-entendre/ar-BB1lbAgV

They should have a chat with the folks who can't stand 18-wheels trucks anymore.
https://www.msn.com/fr-ca/actualites/est-du-quebec/exc%C3%A9d%C3%A9s-par-le-bruit-des-citoyens-r%C3%A9clament-lautoroute-20-%C3%A0-saint-fabien/ar-AA1eYxio

Those protesters really said "let's half-ass this so people keep dying".

I doubt they would sing the same song if one of their friends or relatives was injured or killed. I stop here since my thoughts about these protesters aren't suitable for younger audiences.

[LilianaUwU]

The number of people who speed and do jank maneuvers on that segment of QC 132 won't go down with simple "safety improvements". Also, connecting A-20 needs to be done right, with a divided four-lane freeway, otherwise deaths will keep happening, like they do on the Rimouski segment.