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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2016, 04:26:15 PM »

Map of possibly De-multiplexed US routes once interstates 42, 87 and 587 are complete. I pondered for a while the wisdom of running mainline US 64 back through downtown Rocky Mount but then noted this is much less extreme than putting US 70 back through downtown Raleigh.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2016, 04:27:54 PM »

Map here. LOL
http://goo.gl/1zyv6K


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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2016, 06:03:59 PM »

North Carolina will be the only state with two 3-digit Interstates duplexed along a single road.

Doesn't Ohio have a 480/271 concurrency, somewhere near Oakwood in suburban Cleveland?
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2016, 06:18:34 PM »

North Carolina will be the only state with two 3-digit Interstates duplexed along a single road.

Doesn't Ohio have a 480/271 concurrency, somewhere near Oakwood in suburban Cleveland?

He means that NC will be the only state that will have two cases of 3-digit interstate concurrencies, which would be I-840/I-785 in Greensboro and I-795/I-587 in Wilson, once they're built/upgraded.

And yes, there is a I-480/I-271 concurrency in Ohio.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2016, 09:00:49 AM »

Map here. LOL
http://goo.gl/1zyv6K


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You got something wrong. I-87 will be with I-440 to end at I-40.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2016, 09:06:37 AM »

^ or may replace that part of I-440 entirely.  NCDOT had not yet decided when I asked them about it.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2016, 11:06:56 AM »

Thanks in part to posts made here, I whipped up a page on Interstate 587 yesterday on Iguide. Drove US 264 east from I-95 to Greenville in 2013, so made use of a few of those photos too.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2016, 11:13:12 AM »

You got something wrong. I-87 will be with I-440 to end at I-40.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2016, 11:16:40 AM »

I look forward to seeing an Interstate 587/795 duplex. North Carolina will be the only state with two 3-digit Interstates duplexed along a single road. What will the length of the 587/795 duplex be compared to the 785/840 and 271/480 duplexes.

The 587/795 multiplex will probably be around 5 miles. The I-785/840 multiplex will be around 7 miles, and the I-271/480 multiplex is around 5 miles. :)

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2016, 11:20:02 AM »

^ or may replace that part of I-440 entirely.  NCDOT had not yet decided when I asked them about it.


I doubt it. No reason to end I-440 at Future I-87 just 2 miles away from I-40. They will probably keep I-440 as it is and have it multiplex with I-87.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2016, 11:45:46 AM »

Ugh, keeping that will result in one going south (I-87), east (I-440), AND west (US-64) towards I-40. Those signs are pretty confusing as is.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2016, 12:06:12 PM »

I don't think 64 will move back to its old route in wake county. (Or at least west of exit 429).  Reason: the route of 64 on the beltline and that freeway to freeway connection.

Do you end 264 in Zebulon?

And since 264 was extended from Zebulon to Raleigh because of the desire to have a continuous raleigh to Greenville designation.  I could see where  587 go all the way to 440.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2016, 12:31:14 PM »

And since 264 was extended from Zebulon to Raleigh because of the desire to have a continuous raleigh to Greenville designation.  I could see where  587 go all the way to 440.

Please don't give NCDOT any ideas. :ded: It's bad enough that we already have a US-64/264 concurrency. 
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2016, 12:58:05 PM »

And since 264 was extended from Zebulon to Raleigh because of the desire to have a continuous raleigh to Greenville designation.  I could see where  587 go all the way to 440.

Please don't give NCDOT any ideas. :ded: It's bad enough that we already have a US-64/264 concurrency. 

It really isn't that bothersome. 
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2016, 01:42:05 PM »

Ugh, keeping that will result in one going south (I-87), east (I-440), AND west (US-64) towards I-40. Those signs are pretty confusing as is.

That's NCDOT for you. They are known to do some things that can be very puzzling. I am pretty sure there are signs similar to this elsewhere.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2016, 01:43:59 PM »

I don't think 64 will move back to its old route in wake county. (Or at least west of exit 429).  Reason: the route of 64 on the beltline and that freeway to freeway connection.

Do you end 264 in Zebulon?

And since 264 was extended from Zebulon to Raleigh because of the desire to have a continuous raleigh to Greenville designation.  I could see where  587 go all the way to 440.


I would end 264 at the 64 intersection in Zebulon. I still don't see why there are 64/264 multiplex to start with, unless they decide to extend 264 way past Raleigh to the west, otherwise get rid of that concurrency.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2016, 03:07:10 PM »

I don't think 64 will move back to its old route in wake county. (Or at least west of exit 429).  Reason: the route of 64 on the beltline and that freeway to freeway connection.

Do you end 264 in Zebulon?

And since 264 was extended from Zebulon to Raleigh because of the desire to have a continuous raleigh to Greenville designation.  I could see where  587 go all the way to 440.


I would end 264 at the 64 intersection in Zebulon. I still don't see why there are 64/264 multiplex to start with, unless they decide to extend 264 way past Raleigh to the west, otherwise get rid of that concurrency.
I agree. The concurrency is pointless, as US 264 ends at I-440.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2016, 03:07:51 PM »

Thanks in part to posts made here, I whipped up a page on Interstate 587 yesterday on Iguide. Drove US 264 east from I-95 to Greenville in 2013, so made use of a few of those photos too.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2016, 03:18:17 PM »

Ugh, keeping that will result in one going south (I-87), east (I-440), AND west (US-64) towards I-40. Those signs are pretty confusing as is.

That's NCDOT for you. They are known to do some things that can be very puzzling. I am pretty sure there are signs similar to this elsewhere.
There are. And this section already has east 440 and west 64, so adding south 87 won't be much extra confusion.

I'm in favor of the concurrence. The beltway is commonly called "440" in Raleigh, so it would seem odd for that designation to disappear over a short section. And I-87 and I-40 really should meet.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2016, 05:59:51 PM »

Thanks in part to posts made here, I whipped up a page on Interstate 587 yesterday on Iguide. Drove US 264 east from I-95 to Greenville in 2013, so made use of a few of those photos too.

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2016, 06:13:17 PM »

And since 264 was extended from Zebulon to Raleigh because of the desire to have a continuous raleigh to Greenville designation.  I could see where  587 go all the way to 440.

Please don't give NCDOT any ideas. :ded: It's bad enough that we already have a US-64/264 concurrency. 

It really isn't that bothersome.

I know. I'm just not a fan of it. Speaking of US-264, I noticed that US-264 isn't signed at two interchanges where it's concurrent with US-64 at Exit 432 and Exit 435. At Exit 435, there's "TO US-264" but that's it.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2016, 06:14:00 PM »

Check this video out that NCDOTcommunications put up today!

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2016, 06:21:51 PM »

And since 264 was extended from Zebulon to Raleigh because of the desire to have a continuous raleigh to Greenville designation.  I could see where  587 go all the way to 440.

Please don't give NCDOT any ideas. :ded: It's bad enough that we already have a US-64/264 concurrency. 

It really isn't that bothersome.

I know. I'm just not a fan of it. Speaking of US-264, I noticed that US-264 isn't signed at two interchanges where it's concurrent with US-64 at Exit 432 and Exit 435. At Exit 435, there's "TO US-264" but that's it.

right as they've never upgraded signage at Zebulon or Wendell.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2016, 06:29:47 PM »

We may not see Interstate 587 in North Carolina for a while. First they have to upgrade and signpost Interstate 87. Otherwise, Interstate 587 will not connect with its parent route (sort of like the existing 587 in New York). Of course, US 264 has to be upgraded as well.
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