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Author Topic: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)  (Read 177194 times)

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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #400 on: August 26, 2021, 09:53:11 AM »

The infrastructure bill could mean $369 million to go towards the construction of the beltline: https://abc3340.com/news/local/us-infrastructure-bill-could-mean-future-progress-on-jefferson-county-northern-beltline
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #401 on: August 26, 2021, 09:58:13 AM »

So they'll get maybe 3 miles done?  Not worth it.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #402 on: August 26, 2021, 02:42:46 PM »

Per the article, scheduled completion of the beltway is 2054, wow.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #403 on: August 26, 2021, 07:35:24 PM »

this sounds like the dumbest project ever.

North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Texas just said, "Hold my beer!"

Hey now, throwing Texas in there isn't fair,  All of our new routes make sense and serve a valid purpose. 
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #404 on: August 26, 2021, 09:03:59 PM »

^ In fairness, as does most of North Carolinaís.

I-74 south of Bolton might be the exception there, howeverÖ but I donít think that project will ever come to fruition.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #405 on: August 26, 2021, 09:13:29 PM »

Per the article, scheduled completion of the beltway is 2054, wow.
It started back in 2014, so the project's going to take 40 years. Forty, damn, YEARS!!!

By comparison, even the pre-1991 Interstates didn't take that long to be completed, and they were 42,500 miles compared to 52 miles for a northern loop around Birmingham.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #406 on: August 26, 2021, 09:19:26 PM »

Per the article, scheduled completion of the beltway is 2054, wow.
It started back in 2014, so the project's going to take 40 years. Forty, damn, YEARS!!!

By comparison, even the pre-1991 Interstates didn't take that long to be completed, and they were 42,500 miles compared to 52 miles for a northern loop around Birmingham.

Itís a combination of rugged terrain and lack of funding compared to before 1991 which is why they think it wonít be until 2054 when itís done. Then you have to ask whether itís even worth the cost.

You could take the $350 million and widen a 20 to 30 mile or so stretch of I-65, which is badly needed.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #407 on: August 26, 2021, 09:33:23 PM »

I'm still scratching my head as to why the stretch started near Pinson still isn't done.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #408 on: August 26, 2021, 10:33:42 PM »

Per the article, scheduled completion of the beltway is 2054, wow.
It started back in 2014, so the project's going to take 40 years. Forty, damn, YEARS!!!

By comparison, even the pre-1991 Interstates didn't take that long to be completed, and they were 42,500 miles compared to 52 miles for a northern loop around Birmingham.

Itís a combination of rugged terrain and lack of funding compared to before 1991 which is why they think it wonít be until 2054 when itís done. Then you have to ask whether itís even worth the cost.

You could take the $350 million and widen a 20 to 30 mile or so stretch of I-65, which is badly needed.
I believe the $350 million allocation is dedicated to the ADHS program exclusively, so you wouldnít be able to transfer to such project.

But if you could, the biggest need would probably be the I-10 Mobile River Bayway project.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #409 on: August 26, 2021, 10:35:40 PM »

Per the article, scheduled completion of the beltway is 2054, wow.
It started back in 2014, so the project's going to take 40 years. Forty, damn, YEARS!!!


That'll be slightly longer than I-476 in suburban Philly (37 years), but not as long as I-670 through Columbus (48 years)
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #410 on: August 27, 2021, 07:10:37 PM »

Well, I-64 in West Virginia was built between 1960 and 1988 - which is 48 years, too.

Hilariously off on my numbers  :pan:
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #411 on: August 27, 2021, 07:16:11 PM »

Well, I-64 in West Virginia was built between 1960 and 1988 - which is 48 years, too.
You misspoke a little; it only took 28 years for that to be completed.
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Re: Birmingham Northern Beltline (I-422, I-959)
« Reply #412 on: August 27, 2021, 09:16:52 PM »

Well, I-64 in West Virginia was built between 1960 and 1988 - which is 48 years, too.
You misspoke a little; it only took 28 years for that to be completed.

Hey, we Californians aren't slouches in that department, either.  The first section of I-5 (built after the Interstate legislation) opened in 1957; the last segment to be completed in the state wasn't until 1992.  35 years -- it would have likely been longer if the DOH hadn't prioritized getting the urban sections done as soon as possible, avoiding -- at least in greater L.A. and San Diego -- the controversies that doomed Interstate freeways elsewhere (this pertains to essentially all Interstate mileage in current D7/8/11/12). 
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