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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2014, 03:55:38 PM »

That's not the point, Henry.  My point is that, if NCDOT truly intended the Fayetteville loop to be an Interstate, they'd have fully built it to Interstate standards.  They didn't...at least not with the two segments they've completed.  Not building it to I-spec then asking FHWA for waivers later introduces a lot more scrutiny from FHWA...and FHWA can refuse the request if the road, especially a newer road, is not to I-spec.

Notice that, aside from the Knightdale Bypass, none of Future I-285, I-495, or I-785 are signed.  It's because they're not I-spec.

Washu cites earlier waivers for approval of I-73 and I-74.  But there's a big difference between 73/74 and the 3-digit routes:  73/74 was written/codified into Federal law.  295 wasn't.  There is nothing stopping FHWA from denying approval of I-295 on the grounds of NCDOT being stupid with the bridges.
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2014, 10:21:47 PM »

Actually I-495 is signed along the Knightdale Bypass, only from I-440 to I-540.


I-785 is unsigned, but it is in the NCDOT papers. I guess they plan on putting it up when the construction between US 70 and US 29 is completed in the east side of Greensboro.

But, as of the rest, you are correct, Froggie.

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2014, 09:27:41 AM »

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Actually I-495 is signed along the Knightdale Bypass, only from I-440 to I-540.

That's what I was alluding to when I mentioned "aside from the Knightdale Bypass"...
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2015, 10:22:58 PM »

I have updated my NC 295 (Future I-295) / Fayetteville Outer Loop page with the new construction schedule for the completion of the now fully funded Loop. http://gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut295.html Now we just have to wait for the missing section to open up in 2016.

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2015, 11:00:05 PM »

As reported earlier, the BGSs on I-95 for the Fayetteville Outer Loop exit have been updated replacing the Future 295 shields with NC 295. NCDOT has now replaced all the Future 295 reassurance markers and interchange trailblazers with NC 295 shields on the Loop itself from I-95 to US 401. Here is a photo of one of the new shields taken last week:


I have updated my Future I-295 page with this information:
http://gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut295.html

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2015, 08:12:49 AM »

Why have they removed the future interstate designation?
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2015, 05:26:55 PM »

Why have they removed the future interstate designation?
You'll have to ask NCDOT. Signing plans for the to be completed in 2016 sections west of US 401 feature both NC 295 and Future I-295 shields, as in this sign plan:


Whether they then restore the Future I-295 signs east of US 401 to be consistent is anybody's guess.

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2015, 12:50:08 PM »

As of yesterday there is still an I-295 END shield northbound just after passing over I-95...

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2015, 10:36:10 PM »

Any updates on this? It looks like an interesting project from GM.
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2015, 12:38:12 PM »

Any updates on this? It looks like an interesting project from GM.
The current construction projects are still on schedule for a late 2016/early 2017 opening of the section from US 401 to the Murchison Rd and the current section west of Murchison should be opened to the All American Freeway around the same time. In March 2016 they will be letting the contract for the next section to be built from Cliffdale Road to US 401 west to town.

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2015, 01:33:13 PM »

So it looks like whatever is currently completed will be signed as NC 295 until the whole thing is completed...
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2015, 02:34:52 PM »

So it looks like whatever is currently completed will be signed as NC 295 until the whole thing is completed...


No, it will remain NC 295 until the substandard bridge over Cape Fear River AND the I-95 interchange is updated to current interstate standards.
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2016, 12:31:37 AM »

The signage for the segment opened last summer between Bragg Blvd and Murchison Road includes the future 295 exit numbers. Here's one of the advance signs for the Bragg Blvd (blank space for All-American Freeway) exit:


The rest of the signage back to I-95 is to get exit numbers once the segment between US 401 and NC 210 is opened, hopefully by the end of this year. I've posted several more Loop photos originally posted on the Facebook SERoads group on my Future I-295 website:
http://gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut295.html

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2016, 11:20:39 AM »

The letting for the design-build contract to construct the next segment of the Outer Loop from Cliffdale Road to US 401 (a total of 2.4 miles) will take place on March 15. The preliminary cost estimate is $81. 9 million. Info from the 12-Month Design-Build Letting list available at: https://connect.ncdot.gov/letting/Pages/12month.aspx

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2016, 08:45:08 PM »

The rest of the signage back to I-95 is to get exit numbers once the segment between US 401 and NC 210 is opened, hopefully by the end of this year. I've posted several more Loop photos originally posted on the Facebook SERoads group on my Future I-295 website:
http://gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut295.html
Did you know that while I went there, I also took a journey to the NCDOT's I-26 Connector Project Site. and got a message that it was unsafe?

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2016, 11:13:08 AM »

NCDOT has opened the next segment of the Fayetteville Outer Loop from US 401 to NC 211 completing the route from I-95 to Fort Bragg. I was going to refer to it as NC 295/Future I-295, but a photo on this press release from the ribbon cutting shows it signed as actual I-295. Anyone in NC planning a road trip to check it out?: https://apps.ncdot.gov/newsreleases/details.aspx?r=12855

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2016, 01:32:39 PM »

NCDOT has opened the next segment of the Fayetteville Outer Loop from US 401 to NC 211 completing the route from I-95 to Fort Bragg. I was going to refer to it as NC 295/Future I-295, but a photo on this press release from the ribbon cutting shows it signed as actual I-295. Anyone in NC planning a road trip to check it out?: https://apps.ncdot.gov/newsreleases/details.aspx?r=12855

It would appear to me that all new sections of the Outer Loop will be signed as I-295 from here on out and only the old section between US-401/Ramsey Street and the I-95/US-13 interchange will remain NC-295/Future I-295 until those two substandard bridges are either widened or replaced and the I-95/US-13 interchange upgraded. :hmm:
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2016, 05:42:35 PM »

The resolution of the picture from the opening ceremony showing the I-295 shield wasn't fine enough to discern the lettering on the red field at the top of the shield.  My question is -- this being NC, does the lettering actually read "Interstate" or, alternately, "Future" as per previous NCDOT practice?  Any answers out there?
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2016, 06:38:56 PM »

NCDOT has opened the next segment of the Fayetteville Outer Loop from US 401 to NC 211 completing the route from I-95 to Fort Bragg. I was going to refer to it as NC 295/Future I-295, but a photo on this press release from the ribbon cutting shows it signed as actual I-295. Anyone in NC planning a road trip to check it out?: https://apps.ncdot.gov/newsreleases/details.aspx?r=12855
A small correction: US 401 to NC 210, not 211.
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2016, 07:11:23 PM »

The resolution of the picture from the opening ceremony showing the I-295 shield wasn't fine enough to discern the lettering on the red field at the top of the shield.  My question is -- this being NC, does the lettering actually read "Interstate" or, alternately, "Future" as per previous NCDOT practice?  Any answers out there?


Looks like they signed it as I-295 based on the video from the link below:

http://www.wral.com/fayetteville-loop-now-links-bragg-i-95/15920639/

But now, there is a possible confusion because some signs show NC 295. I don't know.
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2016, 07:47:28 PM »

The resolution of the picture from the opening ceremony showing the I-295 shield wasn't fine enough to discern the lettering on the red field at the top of the shield.  My question is -- this being NC, does the lettering actually read "Interstate" or, alternately, "Future" as per previous NCDOT practice?  Any answers out there?


Looks like they signed it as I-295 based on the video from the link below:

http://www.wral.com/fayetteville-loop-now-links-bragg-i-95/15920639/

But now, there is a possible confusion because some signs show NC 295. I don't know.

I think NC-295 is only signed on the old section between US-401 and the I-95/US-13 interchange. At the US-401 interchange, you'll likely see signs for both versions of 295.

FHWA probably gave NCDOT approval to sign all the new sections of the loop as I-295 while leaving NC-295 as-is until it's upgraded.
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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2016, 10:01:55 PM »

From NCDOT's Flickr page.  Yep, that's I-295.

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2016, 11:59:43 PM »

The resolution of the picture from the opening ceremony showing the I-295 shield wasn't fine enough to discern the lettering on the red field at the top of the shield.  My question is -- this being NC, does the lettering actually read "Interstate" or, alternately, "Future" as per previous NCDOT practice?  Any answers out there?


Looks like they signed it as I-295 based on the video from the link below:

http://www.wral.com/fayetteville-loop-now-links-bragg-i-95/15920639/

But now, there is a possible confusion because some signs show NC 295. I don't know.
The video at the bottom of this link showed that there were NC 295 signs continuing after US 401 heading south/west, and a Jct NC 295 sign at the Bragg Blvd interchange. The video also showed new exit tabs were placed on the I-95 and River Rd signs, but not yet for US 401 where the 'All Traffic Must Exit' tabs were still on top: http://www.fayobserver.com/news/local/i--to-bragg-blvd-section-of-outer-loop-open/article_2c861326-076d-5b00-adf9-b36eab418a49.html

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2016, 05:17:15 AM »

FHWA probably gave NCDOT approval to sign all the new sections of the loop as I-295 while leaving NC-295 as-is until it's upgraded.

And then again, NCDOT has jumped the gun before.  Look at the Laurinburg bypass for I-74/US-74.  They were forced to yank the I-74 signs (I got to travel it before that happened) since they never had permission to add them to that part.

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Re: Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2016, 08:58:50 AM »

FHWA probably gave NCDOT approval to sign all the new sections of the loop as I-295 while leaving NC-295 as-is until it's upgraded.

And then again, NCDOT has jumped the gun before.  Look at the Laurinburg bypass for I-74/US-74.  They were forced to yank the I-74 signs (I got to travel it before that happened) since they never had permission to add them to that part.

True. I forgot about the I-74 mishap. I would like to think that they'd learned from their past mistakes by now, but since it's NCDOT we're talking about...:pan:
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