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Title: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: thspfc on August 28, 2019, 01:11:18 PM
This is specifically for interchanges between two undivided two lane roads.

I know of two in Wisconsin: WI-16 and WI-22 near Wyocena and WI-13 and US-8 near Prentice.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: PHLBOS on August 28, 2019, 01:28:06 PM
PA 41 and Limestone Rd. (to DE 7) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7980786,-75.7256501,276m/data=!3m1!1e3)

US 20 & MA 67 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brimfield,+MA/@42.1437035,-72.2856106,366m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e6bc4bc056ce49:0x9ff50745f6ecc776!8m2!3d42.1225482!4d-72.2005059)
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: kphoger on August 28, 2019, 01:57:58 PM
No need for another thread about this.  Just post examples over here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5411.msg118363#msg118363).
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: thspfc on August 28, 2019, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 28, 2019, 01:57:58 PM
No need for another thread about this.  Just post examples over here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5411.msg118363#msg118363).
I explicitly stated in the original post that this was for two lane examples only. If the threads should be merged, that's the mods responsibility, not yours.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: webny99 on August 28, 2019, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: thspfc on August 28, 2019, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 28, 2019, 01:57:58 PM
No need for another thread about this.  Just post examples over here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5411.msg118363#msg118363).
I explicitly stated in the original post that this was for two lane examples only. If the threads should be merged, that's the mods responsibility, not yours.

Hmmm. This got me thinking. There are a crazy lot of US-State Route shield mix-ups, so we now have a thread devoted to them specifically, and a thread for general mix-ups. I'm not sure we can apply that logic here, since the original thread wasn't out of control/annoyingly bogged down with examples specific to 2-lane roads. And because it's mostly links instead of photos, nobody really notices how many examples there are of each type of roadway.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: 1995hoo on August 28, 2019, 03:32:05 PM
There are a fair number of interchanges between two-lane roads in Nova Scotia, including on some of the 100-series highways (101 north of Yarmouth has several).
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: SectorZ on August 28, 2019, 04:15:42 PM
Any super-2 and it's junctioning roadway (presuming itself two lanes) would count for this right? That gives over a dozen in New England between MA 2, NH 101, NH 16 (down to one now), US 202/NH 9, and maybe some others I am missing.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: vdeane on August 28, 2019, 09:06:30 PM
NY 104/NY 89 is an interesting example as neither road is a freeway, and the overpass actually has room for another carriageway!
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2101036,-76.8035882,992m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: hotdogPi on August 28, 2019, 09:14:22 PM
US 1 at Howlett St. in Topsfield MA: is this one even needed?

https://goo.gl/maps/X4FRDpoPufCtxqNs9
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Super Mateo on August 29, 2019, 07:51:50 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 28, 2019, 09:14:22 PM
US 1 at Howlett St. in Topsfield MA: is this one even needed?

https://goo.gl/maps/X4FRDpoPufCtxqNs9

I don't know, but if it takes THREE "no left turn" signs to stop people from doing it, perhaps the choice of intersection design should be questioned.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: nexus73 on August 29, 2019, 08:17:39 AM
SR 42 and the Powers Highway in Coos County OR, just east of Myrtle Point.

US 101 and SR 18 in Lincoln County, just north of Lincoln City OR.

US 101 and the road which leads to the Rogue Hills development just north of Gold Beach OR.

ODOT had a "thing" going for a while it appears!

Rick
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: webny99 on August 29, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 28, 2019, 09:06:30 PM
NY 104/NY 89 is an interesting example as neither road is a freeway, and the overpass actually has room for another carriageway!
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2101036,-76.8035882,992m/data=!3m1!1e3

Yeah, I've always been curious about that random half-diamond. Yet another point in favor of twinning NY 104 from Williamson to NY 370!
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: jemacedo9 on August 29, 2019, 10:03:05 AM
Quote from: webny99 on August 29, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 28, 2019, 09:06:30 PM
NY 104/NY 89 is an interesting example as neither road is a freeway, and the overpass actually has room for another carriageway!
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2101036,-76.8035882,992m/data=!3m1!1e3

Yeah, I've always been curious about that random half-diamond. Yet another point in favor of twinning NY 104 from Williamson to NY 370!

I don't remember if I read this somewhere or just assumed it...but several significant parts of NY 104 in Eastern Wayne County, including that "interchange" are graded like a Super-2 and I assumed it was advanced prep for an actual twinning that was long abandoned.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: hbelkins on August 29, 2019, 11:31:31 AM
Kentucky has a few on the Mountain Parkway (KY 191, KY 1010, KY 205 and KY 134/191) but the latter two are going away as the Mountain Parkway is being four-laned at those exits.

On the Hal Rogers, the KY 451 exit is the only true interchange that qualifies. I think KY 80 may have four lanes at the spot where it crosses the Hal Rogers at Manchester, and the KY 66 and KY 118 exits are at-grades where toll booths were formerly located.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: crispy93 on August 29, 2019, 04:54:00 PM
NY 9G and 308 in Rhinebeck https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9372193,-73.8844252,17.22z
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Evan_Th on August 29, 2019, 06:16:20 PM
NC 98 and NC 50, west of Wake Forest:  https://binged.it/2L53BeT
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: doorknob60 on August 29, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on August 29, 2019, 08:17:39 AM
SR 42 and the Powers Highway in Coos County OR, just east of Myrtle Point.

US 101 and SR 18 in Lincoln County, just north of Lincoln City OR.

US 101 and the road which leads to the Rogue Hills development just north of Gold Beach OR.

ODOT had a "thing" going for a while it appears!

Rick

Also US 101 and US 26 in Seaside. And multiple interchanges (3 of them, but 2 of them have involve a RIRO, and one of those allows left turns) on the Cannon Beach bypass just to the south.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Beltway on August 29, 2019, 10:01:40 PM
I count 4 such interchanges on the VA-262 Staunton Loop.

While the crossing road briefly widens to 4 lanes in the interchange area, the crossing road routes are 2-lane roads.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Staunton,+VA+24401/@38.16214,-79.1111713,715m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b4a08eb8621697:0xe5d6e4710a09b66e!8m2!3d38.149576!4d-79.0716958
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: debragga on August 29, 2019, 11:54:10 PM
The Natchez Trace Parkway has several
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: PHLBOS on August 30, 2019, 11:22:29 AM
Quote from: Super Mateo on August 29, 2019, 07:51:50 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 28, 2019, 09:14:22 PM
US 1 at Howlett St. in Topsfield MA: is this one even needed?

https://goo.gl/maps/X4FRDpoPufCtxqNs9

I don't know, but if it takes THREE "no left turn" signs to stop people from doing it, perhaps the choice of intersection design should be questioned.
Two possible reasons why that interchange exists:
1.  Such obviously long predated the existence of I-95; US 1 was the main thoroughfare at that time & carried more traffic.
2.  When the Topsfield Fair (which dates back to 1818) is open every October, US 1 in this area becomes a parking lot during the week-and-a half duration of the event.  A grade-separated crossing at the very least allows the local traffic to continue moving along.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: coldshoulder on August 30, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
McGuffey Road (formerly US-62 in this stretch) and Andrews Avenue in an old industrial area of Youngstown, Ohio:

https://goo.gl/maps/ktvCLCrX1cZBA8Fw9
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Bickendan on August 31, 2019, 01:48:41 AM
Quote from: doorknob60 on August 29, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on August 29, 2019, 08:17:39 AM
SR 42 and the Powers Highway in Coos County OR, just east of Myrtle Point.

US 101 and SR 18 in Lincoln County, just north of Lincoln City OR.

US 101 and the road which leads to the Rogue Hills development just north of Gold Beach OR.

ODOT had a "thing" going for a while it appears!

Rick

Also US 101 and US 26 in Seaside. And multiple interchanges (3 of them, but 2 of them have involve a RIRO, and one of those allows left turns) on the Cannon Beach bypass just to the south.
And US 97 at OR 206
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: ClassicHasClass on August 31, 2019, 04:06:17 AM
US 395 (on the super-two between Ridgecrest and Inyokern) and CA 178.

http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/395/u2/#img_89
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: mapman1071 on September 01, 2019, 03:03:36 AM
US 93 @ AZ71 Northwest of Wickenberg, AZ
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: CentralPAGal on September 01, 2019, 03:22:27 AM
US 220 and Fairground/Auction Rd, just north of I-80 in Clinton County, PA. One day, US 220 is supposed to be twinned and become part of I-99, but for now, it's a 2-lane roadway interchanging another.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: sprjus4 on September 01, 2019, 07:54:30 AM
Three exist on the AR-549 in Belle Vista, AR - https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4420245,-94.352826,7194m/data=!3m1!1e3

One exists on I-93 through Franconia Notch, VT - https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1704517,-71.6834394,802m/data=!3m1!1e3

One exists on US-11 in Lexington, VA - https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7899331,-79.4294657,442m/data=!3m1!1e3

Four exist on the Colonial Pkwy in Williamsburg, VA - https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2736756,-76.6898176,7116m/data=!3m1!1e3

One exists on NC-49 near Denton, NC - https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5586377,-80.09751,3638m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: ozarkman417 on September 01, 2019, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 01, 2019, 07:54:30 AM
Three exist on the AR-549 in Belle Vista, AR - https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4420245,-94.352826,7194m/data=!3m1!1e3

One exists on I-93 through Franconia Notch, VT - https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1704517,-71.6834394,802m/data=!3m1!1e3

One exists on US-11 in Lexington, VA - https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7899331,-79.4294657,442m/data=!3m1!1e3

Four exist on the Colonial Pkwy in Williamsburg, VA - https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2736756,-76.6898176,7116m/data=!3m1!1e3

One exists on NC-49 near Denton, NC - https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5586377,-80.09751,3638m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1
The one at AR-549 exists because it will one day be I-49 (if MO would build their portion...)

SM-G965U

Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TEG24601 on September 02, 2019, 05:59:46 PM
OR-43 and the Sellwood Bridge - https://goo.gl/maps/s9GbFA8ygrt5G9yG8 (This new interchange is so much boring from the original)


US-101 and SR 104 near Discovery Bay, WA - https://goo.gl/maps/CLu6aQUYhztjVqNq7
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Bickendan on September 02, 2019, 10:43:18 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on August 31, 2019, 01:48:41 AM
Quote from: doorknob60 on August 29, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on August 29, 2019, 08:17:39 AM
SR 42 and the Powers Highway in Coos County OR, just east of Myrtle Point.

US 101 and SR 18 in Lincoln County, just north of Lincoln City OR.

US 101 and the road which leads to the Rogue Hills development just north of Gold Beach OR.

ODOT had a "thing" going for a while it appears!

Rick

Also US 101 and US 26 in Seaside. And multiple interchanges (3 of them, but 2 of them have involve a RIRO, and one of those allows left turns) on the Cannon Beach bypass just to the south.
And US 97 at OR 206
More in Oregon: US 30 exit 73, between Astoria and Clatskanie
NE Marine Dr at 223rd Ave (allegedly - I should scout this one)
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
Wyola, PA
Wyola is an unincorporated community in Delaware County
Interchange between PA-252 and St. Davids Road
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wyola,+PA+19073/@40.0079911,-75.4193771,1402m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c6eb6938b832ff:0x5dff34f663b8bad7!8m2!3d40.0081654!4d-75.418529

I see that they now have a roundabout just east of the interchange.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: froggie on September 03, 2019, 10:16:09 AM
Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, I'll include MN 55/MN 28 near Glenwood.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: PHLBOS on September 03, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
Wyola, PA
Wyola is an unincorporated community in Delaware County
Interchange between PA-252 and St. Davids Road
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wyola,+PA+19073/@40.0079911,-75.4193771,1402m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c6eb6938b832ff:0x5dff34f663b8bad7!8m2!3d40.0081654!4d-75.418529
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily consider such to be included for two reasons:

1.  PA 252 is a divided roadway.
2.  PA 252 in this area wasn't originally a 2-laner (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0074065,-75.4182083,3a,75y,134.82h,63.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPLIeKk6INQEuXJ2kkb8HUQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664).  Even today, the lower portion of the northbound stretch is still striped as 2-lanes; for a total of 3 lanes overall.

Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
I see that they now have a roundabout just east of the interchange.
Oldest GSV from that area is 2012 & shows the roundabout.  My guess is that such was added sometime during the prior decade.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Plutonic Panda on September 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Will we ever get a stack interchange between two super-2s? That would be cool.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 03, 2019, 06:45:36 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 03, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
Wyola, PA
Wyola is an unincorporated community in Delaware County
Interchange between PA-252 and St. Davids Road
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wyola,+PA+19073/@40.0079911,-75.4193771,1402m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c6eb6938b832ff:0x5dff34f663b8bad7!8m2!3d40.0081654!4d-75.418529
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily consider such to be included for two reasons:

1.  PA 252 is a divided roadway.
2.  PA 252 in this area wasn't originally a 2-laner (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0074065,-75.4182083,3a,75y,134.82h,63.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPLIeKk6INQEuXJ2kkb8HUQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664).  Even today, the lower portion of the northbound stretch is still striped as 2-lanes; for a total of 3 lanes overall.

Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
I see that they now have a roundabout just east of the interchange.
Oldest GSV from that area is 2012 & shows the roundabout.  My guess is that such was added sometime during the prior decade.

Historic Aerials/NETR Onlines of that intersection/interchange show that it's been 4 lanes (for through traffic) since 1967.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: jakeroot on September 03, 2019, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on September 02, 2019, 05:59:46 PM
US-101 and SR 104 near Discovery Bay, WA - https://goo.gl/maps/CLu6aQUYhztjVqNq7

Several others in WA:

* the SPUI at SR-522 and Fales Road near Monroe: https://goo.gl/maps/7diRdWyyEixYDUjK7
* US-2 and 88 St SE near Snohomish: https://goo.gl/maps/Gr8oS249jj8m8nxq8
* US-2 and SR-9 near Snohomish: https://goo.gl/maps/4SYAZmwMacDgTsRC7 (may not count as Hwy 2 transitions to 4-lane divided beneath the overpass)
* US-2 and US-97 northwest of Wenatchee: https://goo.gl/maps/JWYZcCUmcyvCYRHQ6
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: ozarkman417 on September 03, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
There are several along US 400 in Kansas. Some include: US-400xUS-59 in Parsons, US-400xUS-169, and US-400xUS-75.

There is another one at US-65xMO-83 in Warsaw, MO (but 65 turns in to a divided highway once it crosses the Osage River). I would like to see that highway upgraded to four lanes between Warsaw & Buffalo, then it will be four lanes from Harrison AR to Marshall, MO/I-70.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: roadman65 on September 03, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on September 03, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
There are several along US 400 in Kansas. Some include: US-400xUS-59 in Parsons, US-400xUS-169, and US-400xUS-75.

There is another one at US-65xMO-83 in Warsaw, MO (but 65 turns in to a divided highway once it crosses the Osage River). I would like to see that highway upgraded to four lanes between Warsaw & Buffalo, then it will be four lanes from Harrison AR to Marshall, MO/I-70.
The US 54 & 400 split in Mullinville is one you did not mention.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: froggie on September 04, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Will we ever get a stack interchange between two super-2s? That would be cool.

Highly unlikely.  Any volume of traffic that would warrant a stack with all 4 quadrant flyovers would also likely require at least 4 lanes on each mainline.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: jakeroot on September 04, 2019, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: froggie on September 04, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Will we ever get a stack interchange between two super-2s? That would be cool.

Highly unlikely.  Any volume of traffic that would warrant a stack with all 4 quadrant flyovers would also likely require at least 4 lanes on each mainline.

The closest thing I can think of to such a setup, would be US-2 and WA-204 east of Everett. It's not a full stack, but it has characteristics of a stack. It does not qualify for this thread however, as two of the approaches are divided carriageway.

Google Maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/6ZZQ39hSsYdz4Df87
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Plutonic Panda on September 04, 2019, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: froggie on September 04, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Will we ever get a stack interchange between two super-2s? That would be cool.

Highly unlikely.  Any volume of traffic that would warrant a stack with all 4 quadrant flyovers would also likely require at least 4 lanes on each mainline.
Or perhaps geographical constraints could warrant a stack having it being cheaper than a cloverleaf bearing expensive demolition of any nearby elevated land. This seems like a more likely scenario to occur in the NE and would obviously need to be two super-2s that cross over each other yet current don't connect or a future super two built over an existing one.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 03, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
Wyola, PA   Wyola is an unincorporated community in Delaware County  Interchange between PA-252 and St. Davids Road
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily consider such to be included for two reasons:
1.  PA 252 is a divided roadway.
2.  PA 252 in this area wasn't originally a 2-laner (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0074065,-75.4182083,3a,75y,134.82h,63.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPLIeKk6INQEuXJ2kkb8HUQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664).  Even today, the lower portion of the northbound stretch is still striped as 2-lanes; for a total of 3 lanes overall.

Good points, but I wondered back in the 1970s when I lived in the area why they built an interchange there? 

Traffic wasn't all that heavy there back then.  Arterial interchanges were very rare in PA back then, it wasn't a strategic intersection, and north of there it was just a 2-lane highway.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: roadman65 on September 04, 2019, 04:10:28 PM
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Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 03, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
Wyola, PA   Wyola is an unincorporated community in Delaware County  Interchange between PA-252 and St. Davids Road
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily consider such to be included for two reasons:
1.  PA 252 is a divided roadway.
2.  PA 252 in this area wasn't originally a 2-laner (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0074065,-75.4182083,3a,75y,134.82h,63.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPLIeKk6INQEuXJ2kkb8HUQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664).  Even today, the lower portion of the northbound stretch is still striped as 2-lanes; for a total of 3 lanes overall.

Good points, but I wondered back in the 1970s when I lived in the area why they built an interchange there? 

Traffic wasn't all that heavy there back then.  Arterial interchanges were very rare in PA back then, it wasn't a strategic intersection, and north of there it was just a 2-lane highway.
The same goes for US 6 and NY 293 east of Harriman.  Why they need an interchange there when few vehicles go between US 6 and NY 293 to warrant a trumpet that is laid out all wrong.  US 6 should be the main body of it, but EB US 6 to EB NY 293 and WB NY 203 to WB US 6 is the main stem while US 6 exits itself going EB with the majority of the traffic and going WB US 6 merges into the road that NY 293 ends at with more cars merging. 

Bad planning in some cases.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2019, 04:10:28 PM
The same goes for US 6 and NY 293 east of Harriman.  Why they need an interchange there when few vehicles go between US 6 and NY 293 to warrant a trumpet that is laid out all wrong.  US 6 should be the main body of it, but EB US 6 to EB NY 293 and WB NY 203 to WB US 6 is the main stem while US 6 exits itself going EB with the majority of the traffic and going WB US 6 merges into the road that NY 293 ends at with more cars merging.   Bad planning in some cases.

The Wyola interchange meets (and did so back then) traffic warrants for benefitting from a grade separation there, it was not a waste.  Just that for PA it was an extravagance.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: PHLBOS on September 04, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 03, 2019, 06:45:36 PM
Historic Aerials/NETR Onlines of that intersection/interchange show that it's been 4 lanes (for through traffic) since 1967.
Not quite.  The land was being cleared for such back then.  The 1971 Aerial shows the fully-completed interchange.

Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 03, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
Wyola, PA   Wyola is an unincorporated community in Delaware County  Interchange between PA-252 and St. Davids Road
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily consider such to be included for two reasons:
1.  PA 252 is a divided roadway.
2.  PA 252 in this area wasn't originally a 2-laner (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0074065,-75.4182083,3a,75y,134.82h,63.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPLIeKk6INQEuXJ2kkb8HUQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664).  Even today, the lower portion of the northbound stretch is still striped as 2-lanes; for a total of 3 lanes overall.

Good points, but I wondered back in the 1970s when I lived in the area why they built an interchange there? 

Traffic wasn't all that heavy there back then.  Arterial interchanges were very rare in PA back then, it wasn't a strategic intersection, and north of there it was just a 2-lane highway.
Based on Historic Aerials, the interchange has existed since 1971.

As for why was such constructed that way early on... such may have been part of an initial plan to upgrade PA 252 into a 4-lane divided highway that never fully materialized.  Keep in mind, due to the absence of I-476 at the time; roads like PA 252 & 320 likely saw more through-traffic usage.

Side bar: how long has Episcopal Academy been there (west of the interchange)?
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Plutonic Panda on September 04, 2019, 04:23:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 04, 2019, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: froggie on September 04, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Will we ever get a stack interchange between two super-2s? That would be cool.

Highly unlikely.  Any volume of traffic that would warrant a stack with all 4 quadrant flyovers would also likely require at least 4 lanes on each mainline.

The closest thing I can think of to such a setup, would be US-2 and WA-204 east of Everett. It's not a full stack, but it has characteristics of a stack. It does not qualify for this thread however, as two of the approaches are divided carriageway.

Google Maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/6ZZQ39hSsYdz4Df87
Interesting. Are there plans to expand the super two setup further east on US-2?
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: jemacedo9 on September 04, 2019, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 04, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 03, 2019, 06:45:36 PM
Historic Aerials/NETR Onlines of that intersection/interchange show that it's been 4 lanes (for through traffic) since 1967.
Not quite.  The land was being cleared for such back then.  The 1971 Aerial shows the fully-completed interchange.

Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 03, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 02, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
Wyola, PA   Wyola is an unincorporated community in Delaware County  Interchange between PA-252 and St. Davids Road
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily consider such to be included for two reasons:
1.  PA 252 is a divided roadway.
2.  PA 252 in this area wasn't originally a 2-laner (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0074065,-75.4182083,3a,75y,134.82h,63.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPLIeKk6INQEuXJ2kkb8HUQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664).  Even today, the lower portion of the northbound stretch is still striped as 2-lanes; for a total of 3 lanes overall.

Good points, but I wondered back in the 1970s when I lived in the area why they built an interchange there? 

Traffic wasn't all that heavy there back then.  Arterial interchanges were very rare in PA back then, it wasn't a strategic intersection, and north of there it was just a 2-lane highway.
Based on Historic Aerials, the interchange has existed since 1971.

As for why was such constructed that way early on... such may have been part of an initial plan to upgrade PA 252 into a 4-lane divided highway that never fully materialized.  Keep in mind, due to the absence of I-476 at the time; roads like PA 252 & 320 likely saw more through-traffic usage.

Side bar: how long has Episcopal Academy been there (west of the interchange)?

PA 252 south starting at that interchange is a 4 lane arterial...and has been as long as I can remember (late 80s?)
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 04, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Based on Historic Aerials, the [Wyola] interchange has existed since 1971.
As for why was such constructed that way early on... such may have been part of an initial plan to upgrade PA 252 into a 4-lane divided highway that never fully materialized.  Keep in mind, due to the absence of I-476 at the time; roads like PA 252 & 320 likely saw more through-traffic usage.
Side bar: how long has Episcopal Academy been there (west of the interchange)?
I first drove it in fall of 1972, and I don't recall any school there then.  I did think about the absence of I-476 then, but it was in planning since 1956, and based on how PA-252 curves to the northwest, I am unsure as to how much traffic relief that I-476 would provide to PA-252.

PennDOT did spend a fortune to build the interchange at PA-320 and US-1 in the late 1970s, and while that was a very congested intersection, that was directly relievable by the planned I-476.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: froggie on September 04, 2019, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 04, 2019, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: froggie on September 04, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Will we ever get a stack interchange between two super-2s? That would be cool.

Highly unlikely.  Any volume of traffic that would warrant a stack with all 4 quadrant flyovers would also likely require at least 4 lanes on each mainline.
Or perhaps geographical constraints could warrant a stack having it being cheaper than a cloverleaf bearing expensive demolition of any nearby elevated land. This seems like a more likely scenario to occur in the NE and would obviously need to be two super-2s that cross over each other yet current don't connect or a future super two built over an existing one.

Again, doubtful.  If traffic volumes were low enough that they wouldn't need 4 lanes and there were geographical constraints, a tight diamond would more than suffice.  Even a double-trumpet if the goal was fully-controlled access for both roadways...but again volumes warranting that would most likely warrant 4 lanes to begin with.

I also can't think of anywhere offhand in New England where such would be warranted.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: vdeane on September 04, 2019, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2019, 04:10:28 PM
The same goes for US 6 and NY 293 east of Harriman.  Why they need an interchange there when few vehicles go between US 6 and NY 293 to warrant a trumpet that is laid out all wrong.  US 6 should be the main body of it, but EB US 6 to EB NY 293 and WB NY 203 to WB US 6 is the main stem while US 6 exits itself going EB with the majority of the traffic and going WB US 6 merges into the road that NY 293 ends at with more cars merging.
Bear in mind that US 6 east of there is the Long Mountain Parkway (leading to an overlap with the Palisades Interstate Parkway) and is restricted to passenger cars only.  Not to mention, current NY 293 was the routing of US 6 before the Long Mountain Parkway was!
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: jakeroot on September 04, 2019, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 04, 2019, 04:23:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 04, 2019, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: froggie on September 04, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Will we ever get a stack interchange between two super-2s? That would be cool.

Highly unlikely.  Any volume of traffic that would warrant a stack with all 4 quadrant flyovers would also likely require at least 4 lanes on each mainline.

The closest thing I can think of to such a setup, would be US-2 and WA-204 east of Everett. It's not a full stack, but it has characteristics of a stack. It does not qualify for this thread however, as two of the approaches are divided carriageway.

Google Maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/6ZZQ39hSsYdz4Df87
Interesting. Are there plans to expand the super two setup further east on US-2?

My understanding is that WSDOT wants to extend the freeway portion of US-2 all the way past Monroe, via a new bypass. The interchanges along the current stretch of the super-2 were built to support this.

If you look at a map of the area, WA-522 in Monroe ends at US-2. the idea is for this freeway to be extended to meet the bypass. I think with a roundabout at first, but then full interchanges later.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: PHLBOS on September 05, 2019, 08:58:35 AM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on September 04, 2019, 04:33:22 PMPA 252 south starting at that interchange is a 4 lane arterial...and has been as long as I can remember (late 80s?)
The southernmost point of where it becomes a 4-laner is at the PA 3/Chester Pike intersection.  Based on Historic Aerials, that stretch has been a 4-laner since 1971.  The widening likely coincided with the building of that interchange in Wyola.

Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:53:28 PMI did think about the absence of I-476 then, but it was in planning since 1956, and based on how PA-252 curves to the northwest, I am unsure as to how much traffic relief that I-476 would provide to PA-252.
For points west of the 252 corridor, the opening of I-476 wouldn't have had much of a traffic impact.  But for areas in-between PA 252 & 320, pre-I-476, one would use either road depending on traffic and/or destination.  Even today, there have been times I've used PA 252 en lieu of I-476 coming back from Valley Forge Park due to the traffic along I-76 eastbound between US 202 & I-476 being a parking lot.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Beltway on September 05, 2019, 09:30:59 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 05, 2019, 08:58:35 AM
Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:53:28 PMI did think about the absence of I-476 then, but it was in planning since 1956, and based on how PA-252 curves to the northwest, I am unsure as to how much traffic relief that I-476 would provide to PA-252.
For points west of the 252 corridor, the opening of I-476 wouldn't have had much of a traffic impact.  But for areas in-between PA 252 & 320, pre-I-476, one would use either road depending on traffic and/or destination.  Even today, there have been times I've used PA 252 en lieu of I-476 coming back from Valley Forge Park due to the traffic along I-76 eastbound between US 202 & I-476 being a parking lot.
From the area around Villanova and Devon, when heading south I typically used US-202 and I-76, granted that was south of Wilmington.  Going to southern Delaware County, the routes would include PA-320 or PA-252 and maybe PA-452.

In any event, both PA-320 and PA-252 look like no effort/plan was ever made to upgrade them into 4-lane arterial routes, given the kinds of right-of-way impacts would occur, and given the plan to build I-476.  Even though there were some serious doubts in the late 1970s and early 1980s that I-476  would ever get completed, PennDOT always did pursue the completion as much as they could.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Mark68 on September 05, 2019, 01:54:54 PM
US 26 & US 101 near Seaside, OR.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 05, 2019, 11:10:55 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2019, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 04, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Based on Historic Aerials, the [Wyola] interchange has existed since 1971.
As for why was such constructed that way early on... such may have been part of an initial plan to upgrade PA 252 into a 4-lane divided highway that never fully materialized.  Keep in mind, due to the absence of I-476 at the time; roads like PA 252 & 320 likely saw more through-traffic usage.
Side bar: how long has Episcopal Academy been there (west of the interchange)?
I first drove it in fall of 1972, and I don't recall any school there then.  I did think about the absence of I-476 then, but it was in planning since 1956, and based on how PA-252 curves to the northwest, I am unsure as to how much traffic relief that I-476 would provide to PA-252.

PennDOT did spend a fortune to build the interchange at PA-320 and US-1 in the late 1970s, and while that was a very congested intersection, that was directly relievable by the planned I-476.


Mind you, PA 252 originally(?) turned right onto St. David Rd and meandered into Wayne (St. David, Brooke, Connstoga, S Wayne, N Wayne) and then north to (almost) King of Prussia
252's routing change might of had more to do with the opening of the 202 bypass between West Chester and KoP.

As for that school, I can't help you PHLBOS. My mom & uncles all attended Radnor Twp. HS during the 1960s.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: PHLBOS on September 06, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 05, 2019, 11:10:55 PMMind you, PA 252 originally(?) turned right onto St. David Rd and meandered into Wayne (St. David, Brooke, Connstoga, S Wayne, N Wayne) and then north to (almost) King of Prussia
252's routing change might of had more to do with the opening of the 202 bypass between West Chester and KoP.
FWIW, based on the Wiki account, PA 252's current northern alignment dates back to 1970; just about the time that Wyola interchange was built and the road was widened.

Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 05, 2019, 11:10:55 PMAs for that school, I can't help you PHLBOS. My mom & uncles all attended Radnor Twp. HS during the 1960s.
While checking the above on Wiki; I have since found out that the school has been at its current location since 2008.  I knew it was recent; I just wasn't sure how recent.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: keithvh on September 15, 2019, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on September 03, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
There are several along US 400 in Kansas. Some include: US-400xUS-59 in Parsons, US-400xUS-169, and US-400xUS-75.

Another one in Kansas - this up in the North Central part of the state.  US-36 and KS-181, just outside of Lebanon - which itself is very near the geographic center of the Lower 48.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Elm on September 21, 2019, 12:12:34 AM
It's looking like Colorado doesn't have any that fully fit the bill. US 34 and Hwy 39 (https://www.google.com/maps/@?api=1&map_action=map&center=40.247524,-104.055772&zoom=16&basemap=satellite) might be the closest in isolation, but it's mixed with an interchange between I-76 (four lanes) and Hwy 39/52.

One I'd thought qualified is in Julesburg, between US 138 and US 385 (https://www.google.com/maps/@?api=1&map_action=map&center=40.991728,-102.252790&zoom=16&basemap=satellite), which gets 385 over the railroad. Through town, though, US 138-385/1st St has four lanes, with the outer lanes becoming the interchange's southwestern ramps.

There's an interchange that was almost between two two-lane roads in Castle Rock: US 85 and Castle Rock Pkwy/N Meadows Dr (https://www.google.com/maps/@?api=1&map_action=map&center=39.420467,-104.888433&zoom=17&basemap=satellite), also there to avoid a railroad. During construction of the project that put in the interchange (the "North Meadows extension,"  from near the school to the south up to I-25, including that interchange as well), the town and county decided to build Castle Rock Pkwy with four lanes instead of the planned two.

As it is, there are only two through lanes in each direction, although it's built to accommodate four each way. On the overpass, the island curbs that don't have a colored filling behind them suggest what would move to accommodate more lanes on N Meadows Dr.

Driving underneath, the structure is sort of imposing when you're on the two-lane US 85, but that's kind of cool, too; the design, viaduct-style with visible piers, seems unusual for Colorado, where, at least in my head, most new builds use some sort of wall for support and use bridges sparingly.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: ozarkman417 on September 24, 2019, 09:08:32 AM
Route 1 has two in Deer Lake, Newfoundland.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Bruce on September 24, 2019, 08:30:53 PM
SR 26 and SR 17[/urk] in Othello, WA (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.8108487,-119.1346305,1538m/data=!3m1!1e3)
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: kphoger on September 24, 2019, 08:50:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 24, 2019, 08:30:53 PM
SR 26 and SR 17 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.8108487,-119.1346305,1538m/data=!3m1!1e3) in Othello, WA

Fixed your formatting.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Crash_It on September 26, 2019, 10:02:49 PM
Here's a partial one...  Lake County V76 and V61 near Hawthorn Woods IL.


County Hwy V61
https://maps.app.goo.gl/B1NW7uTxqagKnRWw9


29897 N Gilmer Rd
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qSjWRTzhtLh69aa4A
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TheGrassGuy on November 26, 2019, 03:49:02 PM
Literally every interchange between the Blue Ridge Parkway and a two lane road.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: froggie on November 27, 2019, 10:21:39 AM
^ The vast majority of those are not full interchanges though.  They're mainly one- or two-quadrant access roads that have at-grade intersections on the Parkway proper.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TheGrassGuy on November 27, 2019, 11:18:30 AM
NH 101 and 122 in Milford
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8452097,-71.615187,287m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: WestDakota on December 08, 2019, 01:56:49 AM
North Dakota Examples:

Minot, US 83 Bypass
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Minot,+ND/@48.2400692,-101.3375867,766m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x52deb78ae5ce7f0d:0xbcc590331b734416!8m2!3d48.2329668!4d-101.2922906
This one soon won't qualify as the bypass is being rebuilt into a four lane road.

Not quite sure if this counts, but at least one other posting had something similar so I am listing it:
US 12 and ND 67 intersection in Scranton, ND
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Scranton,+ND/@46.1453182,-103.1460204,387m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x532f25b75ed50e57:0x3da59a4fd6bf4f3e!8m2!3d46.1480618!4d-103.14295

Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: stevashe on December 08, 2019, 01:46:02 PM
Some more from Washington are three interchanges each along US 101 in Shelton (at WA 3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1806384,-123.0979781,835m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0),  W Railroad Ave/Shelton Matlock Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.2059439,-123.1262599,1000m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0), and Wallace Kneeland Blvd (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.2308585,-123.1279907,705m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0)) and in Sequim (at Simdars Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0682813,-123.069497,450m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0),  S Sequim Ave (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0731768,-123.102132,268m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0), and River Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0742501,-123.134916,452m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0)).
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: US 89 on December 08, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Multiple examples in Utah, mostly on super-twos:
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TheGrassGuy on December 08, 2019, 06:32:39 PM
Quote from: US 89 on December 08, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Multiple examples in Utah, mostly on super-twos:
  • US 6 at SR 55/Business 6 (exit 240) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6000526,-110.8268098,664m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • US 6 at SR 10 (exit 241) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5877166,-110.8120144,664m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • US 6 at SR 55/Business 6 (exit 243) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5860291,-110.7889557,664m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Desert Canyon Parkway (exit 6) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0087705,-113.5134883,688m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Airport Parkway (exit 7) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0146901,-113.4966828,688m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Warner Valley Road (exit 10) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0584754,-113.4883989,1375m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Long Valley Road (exit 15) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1139253,-113.4525409,687m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 10 at SR 57 (exit 34) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1759323,-111.0480161,668m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 57 at SR 29 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2544211,-111.09773,333m/data=!3m1!1e3) - this is the really weird one, because it's out in the middle of nowhere on two state routes that are dead end mining spurs.
SR 29 is not dead end
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: US 89 on December 08, 2019, 06:36:15 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on December 08, 2019, 06:32:39 PM
SR 29 is not dead end

Okay, does not connect to any other state routes on the west end.

It is a dead end for half the year though, as Ephraim Canyon Road closes in winter.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: cl94 on December 08, 2019, 08:10:17 PM
There are a handful of unmentioned New York examples:

- NY 18 at NY 104 in Lewiston (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1727483,-79.018351,651m/data=!3m1!1e3). Note that NY 18 ends at NY 104 a mile to the southwest.
- US 20 at NY 98 in Alexander (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9049775,-78.2545687,570m/data=!3m1!1e3). I'm assuming this dates to when US 20 was rerouted here from US 20A in the 1930s. Left turns across US 20 are banned.
- NY 5S at NY 51 in Ilion (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0199893,-75.0320275,639m/data=!3m1!1e3). NY 5S is a super 2 in this area.
- Bear Mountain Parkway at Highland Avenue in Peekskill (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3021082,-73.9213289,286m/data=!3m1!1e3). The other two interchanges have 3+ lanes on at least one of the roads involved.
- Bethpage Parkway at Central Avenue/Merritts Road in Bethpage (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7357082,-73.4704383,372m/data=!3m1!1e3)
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: NE2 on December 08, 2019, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on December 08, 2019, 06:32:39 PM
Quote from: US 89 on December 08, 2019, 02:54:00 PM
Multiple examples in Utah, mostly on super-twos:
  • US 6 at SR 55/Business 6 (exit 240) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6000526,-110.8268098,664m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • US 6 at SR 10 (exit 241) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5877166,-110.8120144,664m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • US 6 at SR 55/Business 6 (exit 243) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5860291,-110.7889557,664m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Desert Canyon Parkway (exit 6) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0087705,-113.5134883,688m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Airport Parkway (exit 7) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0146901,-113.4966828,688m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Warner Valley Road (exit 10) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0584754,-113.4883989,1375m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 7 at Long Valley Road (exit 15) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1139253,-113.4525409,687m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 10 at SR 57 (exit 34) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1759323,-111.0480161,668m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • SR 57 at SR 29 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2544211,-111.09773,333m/data=!3m1!1e3) - this is the really weird one, because it's out in the middle of nowhere on two state routes that are dead end mining spurs.
SR 29 is not dead end
SR dead is not end 29
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TheGrassGuy on December 21, 2019, 07:29:40 PM
US 57 and FM 140, Texas
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Scott5114 on December 22, 2019, 03:02:06 AM
Chickasaw Turnpike/US-177
Chickasaw Turnpike/Dolberg Rd
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: 3467 on December 22, 2019, 08:27:34 AM
US 50 has 3 of them in Illinois . It may have more depending on the design of the Lebanon bypass.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Revive 755 on December 22, 2019, 09:58:09 AM
Quote from: 3467 on December 22, 2019, 08:27:34 AM
US 50 has 3 of them in Illinois . It may have more depending on the design of the Lebanon bypass.

Except US 50 widens out to four lanes with a grass median for two of them.
At IL 160 (https://goo.gl/maps/Q7ms566SXMjP2GbA7)
At Breese (https://goo.gl/maps/vCYE2vHLccWZZiB27)
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: 3467 on December 22, 2019, 05:01:52 PM
The third one is really odd. It's a 2 lane extended to the main road to allow access to an overpass.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Ben114 on December 22, 2019, 05:09:23 PM
US 20 and MA 140
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TheStranger on December 23, 2019, 03:19:05 PM
Route 84 (Niles Canyon Road) and Main Street, Sunol, CA:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sunol,+CA/@37.5937724,-121.8918639,17.54z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fc23398d75b01:0x4494cb0395e64a97!8m2!3d37.5940369!4d-121.8884812

Historicaerials shows that this Y interchange has existed as far back as 1946.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TheGrassGuy on December 24, 2019, 08:18:22 AM
Quote from: 3467 on December 22, 2019, 05:01:52 PM
The third one is really odd. It's a 2 lane extended to the main road to allow access to an overpass.
Well, it looks like someone has never heard of the Blue Ridge Parkway...
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: Rothman on December 24, 2019, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on December 24, 2019, 08:18:22 AM
Quote from: 3467 on December 22, 2019, 05:01:52 PM
The third one is really odd. It's a 2 lane extended to the main road to allow access to an overpass.
Well, it looks like someone has never heard of the Blue Ridge Parkway...
Or the Natchez Trace Parkway...
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: DJ Particle on December 25, 2019, 01:44:57 AM
Strange proto-interchange between US-65 and the Lincoln Highway in Colo, IA.  At the time it was built, the Lincoln was still US-30.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/us-65+and+lincoln+highway/@42.0221835,-93.3093931,748m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: andrepoiy on January 05, 2020, 07:01:55 PM
Why would they build interchanges for 2-lane roads though?
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 05, 2020, 07:20:15 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on January 05, 2020, 07:01:55 PM
Why would they build interchanges for 2-lane roads though?

There are areas where cross traffic/terrain make it beneficial to do so even if the roads themselves don't merit 4 laning.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: kphoger on January 06, 2020, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: andrepoiy on January 05, 2020, 07:01:55 PM
Why would they build interchanges for 2-lane roads though?

So people don't have to stop.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: PHLBOS on January 06, 2020, 01:18:15 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on December 22, 2019, 05:09:23 PMUS 20 and MA 140
Nope, US 20 is 3-lanes just east of the MA 140 overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2501556,-71.711991,3a,75y,64.7h,67.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWFk6iJhhgqEo38pyt1QRiQ!2e0!5s20181001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) and continues as a 3-to-4 laner west of MA 140.
Title: Re: Interchanges between two lane roads
Post by: DJ Particle on January 07, 2020, 01:53:04 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 06, 2020, 01:18:15 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on December 22, 2019, 05:09:23 PMUS 20 and MA 140
Nope, US 20 is 3-lanes just east of the MA 140 overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2501556,-71.711991,3a,75y,64.7h,67.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWFk6iJhhgqEo38pyt1QRiQ!2e0!5s20181001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) and continues as a 3-to-4 laner west of MA 140.

But that 3rd lane is just an aux lane.