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Maine US 202A?

Started by Ian, July 06, 2010, 05:16:24 PM

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Ian

Hey all,

I recently scored on an old US 202A shield from Maine (I can tell it's from Maine, because it has that old "LeHay" font). I have looked all over the place on the Internet for any info on 202A, so does anyone have any info on it or know where it is (or was)?



Any help appreciated!
Ian
UMaine graduate, former PennDOT employee, new SoCal resident.
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ctsignguy

I have likewise looked and found very little.  Probably like so many -A routes in New England, more of a local alternate/old routing of US 202 in terms of local traffic served....remember, US 202 was always a local rather than regional route,hence its meandering path from Maine to Delaware...
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yakra

There is not, nor has there ever been, a route 202A in Maine.
While I have seen similar fonts on shields, I'd not put too much stock in this one.
The square aspect ratio of the shield, as well as the 'A' on a separate line below, suggests to me it might be a shield-o for NH-202A.
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

Alps


ClassicHasClass


Alps

Nope, it's legit.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39308305/me_202a_buxton_july_24_1968/

202A followed what's now the 202 bypass of Buxton. 202 must have followed what's now 4A.

yakra

Holy blap!

Cameron Kaiser & JP Kirby's pages never mentioned this one; seems 'twas conspicuously absent from route logs and historic maps.
What they do mention is 4 and 4A, which swapped designations here in the past, along with US202.

From the Spring 1982 AASHTO meeting:

There's no mention of a 202 Alternate being either removed or relocated along with 202 proper.
I wonder if it was some kind of colloquial localism signed by colloquial yokels...

This is in line with ME4A as attested by JPK:
Quote from: http://web.archive.org/web/20110831115313/http://the506.com/roads/ME/004a2.htmlRoute 4A was formed in the 1980s when Route 4 and US 202 were moved onto a bypass route.
(aside from the fact that 4A already existed where 4 proper is now. Unless we count that as a different route that was formed at a different time.)
and historic maps E.G. https://historicaerials.com/location/43.60413756443483/-70.55428504943849/T1973/13

The 1937 reroute Cameron Kaiser mentions leaves me scratching my head. The evidence above is against it, and any maps I recall seeing contradict it, including an official MDOT 1979-80.
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

ClassicHasClass

As I recall, I got that off a 1937-8 MDOT (MHC) map. I'll look around for it but most of those are boxed up now.

Alps

Quote from: yakra on November 24, 2019, 12:46:48 AM
Holy blap!

Cameron Kaiser & JP Kirby's pages never mentioned this one; seems 'twas conspicuously absent from route logs and historic maps.
What they do mention is 4 and 4A, which swapped designations here in the past, along with US202.

From the Spring 1982 AASHTO meeting:

There's no mention of a 202 Alternate being either removed or relocated along with 202 proper.
I wonder if it was some kind of colloquial localism signed by colloquial yokels...

This is in line with ME4A as attested by JPK:
Quote from: http://web.archive.org/web/20110831115313/http://the506.com/roads/ME/004a2.htmlRoute 4A was formed in the 1980s when Route 4 and US 202 were moved onto a bypass route.
(aside from the fact that 4A already existed where 4 proper is now. Unless we count that as a different route that was formed at a different time.)
and historic maps E.G. https://historicaerials.com/location/43.60413756443483/-70.55428504943849/T1973/13

The 1937 reroute Cameron Kaiser mentions leaves me scratching my head. The evidence above is against it, and any maps I recall seeing contradict it, including an official MDOT 1979-80.
So if 4 and 202 were signed together through town and 4A was signed on the bypass, I bet 202A was signed along with 4A for consistency even if it wasn't an official route.



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