How many places can you think of where you can see two (or more!) of the same business? At ground level.
One of the first places that comes to mind is probably McDonald's, since they're like, everywhere. Many roadgeeks can likely think of a location where you can spot two high-mast signs between freeway exits. At one time, at the I-70/I-75 interchange, it was possible to see arches at the Vandalia exit to the north, and the Huber Heights exit to the east; not sure if you still can due to tree growth and construction.
A puzzling example is in Severna Park, MD, where there are two McD's on opposite sides of Ritchie Highway (MD-2) and less than a mile downfield. One is actually on Baltimore-Annapolis Rd (MD-648), but just about at the corner.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/mcdonald's/@39.0789677,-76.5490213,919m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/search/mcdonald's/@39.0789677,-76.5490213,919m/data=!3m1!1e3)
This can sometimes happen with gas stations. In Rockville, MD, there are two Shell stations almost right across MD-355 (Rockville Pike) from each other. There used to be a third Shell directly across sidestreet Rollins Ave. from the northernmost one, but that was demolished and replaced with stores.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0581613,-77.1214177,243m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0581613,-77.1214177,243m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I seem to recall this also happened in Port Washington, NY, on Long Island, where there were 2 Getty stations across a sidestreet from each other on PW Blvd (NY-101). One is now a lube place, and the other is an Exxon (with the sign awkwardly squeezed into a Getty frame). https://goo.gl/maps/49yzqV2cEZ52 (https://goo.gl/maps/49yzqV2cEZ52)
In New Jersey, there were two Exxon stations on opposite sides of Route 33 near the turnpike. Both were around since Esso days. One was in the gore area where Monmouth St. used to branch off and has been gone for some time (possibly due to the construction of NJ-133). The other was at the corner of Milford Rd., and was only demolished recently -- specifically to make way for the relocation of Interchange 8 on the pike.
The award has to go to 7-Eleven, in Manassas, VA, where there are two stores right next door! Granted, one is a classic 7-11 with the gabled roof, while the other is a modern gas station setup with the c-store in the middle and a roof over everything. Yet they both seem to stay in business. (There used to be a third one just down the street, but that's now a AAA service center.)
https://goo.gl/maps/NsJwKD6tEUq (https://goo.gl/maps/NsJwKD6tEUq)
One of the Shrek movies parodied this with Starbucks. When there was some disturbance, all the customers ran screaming out of one "Farbucks" shop, and race into another one right across the street. I'm not sure that I've seen this, though; what I have noticed is multiple stores in close proximity that sell Starbucks coffee and have exterior signs indicating such, but only one, if any, is a dedicated Starbucks.
(Apologies if this thread was done before, but I did a search and could not find.)
In the South, one could see 2 Waffle House restaurants.
In the Mattress Firm thread, those could be seen on the same corner until they filed for Chapter 11 to close redundant locations.
There used to be two McDonalds in Ford Road/M-153 just off if I-275, I'm not sure if both are still present. In Key West you could see the marque for two Publixs on Roosevelt Boulevard/US 1 and Kennedy Drive.
North Station, Boston: Two Dunkin Donuts inside.
Chester, VA: two Starbucks. One freestanding and one inside Target. They're about a quarter mile apart, but are visible.
In Minnesota SuperAmerica bought 7-11 so they have many instances of being across the street from each other.
Some years ago (probably the late 1990s), in downtown Seattle I saw an intersection with Starbucks on all four corners. However, I can't pin down whether that's still true, or which intersection (probably near the Federal Building, where I was working on a case).
The Movie Best In Show mentioned one character meeting another character by seeing him in one Starbucks from another Starbucks. This was based on a real pair of Starbucks in Vancouver, BC where the movie was filmed.
Quote from: texaskdog on February 06, 2019, 10:03:19 PM
In Minnesota SuperAmerica bought 7-11 so they have many instances of being across the street from each other.
I associate this with Holiday more than SA. North Branch for some reason has *three* of them; two east of I-35 which are across the street from each other, and one on the west side. Duluth has two Holidays roughly flanking the corner where I-35 ends.
In WI there are places where Kwik Trips co-exist on the same corner, likely where a new larger store was built to supplement an smaller, older unit and the two units coexist together.
Seattle is full of Starbucks locations, obviously.
In the Columbia Center, the city's tallest building, there's two locations (one on the 1st floor, another on the 40th floor skylobby). The tower to the northeast has its own ground-floor location, and the tower to the east has another ground-floor location. These three towers are linked via an underground passageway, so you can actually walk between the four Starbucks without setting foot outside.
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2019, 10:57:14 PM
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
That really narrows it down. I hope you don't mean the whole United States.
In all seriousness, this constriction isn't true in my town, though a
close but no cigar case exists; here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.91545,-77.6544461,3a,16.2y,150.14h,90.37t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D200.63008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100) is a former Sheetz's location. Assuming it is still a Sheetz (and it was prior to 2015 or so),
way off into the distance you can barely see the other Sheetz. It's past an overpass and I can make out (what seems to be) a red column from the GSV.
A couple of current and former instances I can think of:
1. In my town, there is a Subway on one side of CT 10, and used to be one in the Walmart in the plaza directly across the street.
2. There are 2 Dunkin Donuts almost within sight of each other near I-84 Exit 31. If you are on the street parallel to the northern one, you can see the southern one over a slight rise. However, office buildings and trees obscure the view from the actual building, and you can't see the southern one from the northern one because the rise obstructs it.
3. In the old Hartford Civic Center Mall, there used to be 2 Wendy's locations (one upstairs, one downstairs; both visible from center court) because the one downstairs would often overflow on event nights. The upstars one was called "Wendy's Too"
4. Just about every hotel on Canal St in New Orleans has a Starbucks location in the lobby, so you can see about 3 or 4 of them.
5. A pair of Verizon company stores. One is in Corbin's Corner plaza, the other is inside Westfarms Mall directly across CT 71. While you can't see the location inside the mall, the mall and plaza are directly in sight of each other. In my town, there are two Verizon authorized dealers across from each other on CT 10.
6. Several instances of service areas on either side of current or former toll roads (ie the Mass Pike, NY Thruway, I-95 and CT 15 in CT) with the same food counters, gas stations, and convenience stores from which you can see the other.
In Dearborn there's the two Kroger stores across the street from each other on Michigan Avenue.
Kroger has another almost same thing in Roseville although you can't see both stores from one spot they are within a mile of each other. One is a relocated new Marketplace on the site of an old Kmart that caused the two stores to be located even closer together.
In Bay City and probably several other places as well two Admiral gas stations within a block or two of each other.
In Dallas, at the Winslow St. exit on I-30, there were 2 Circle K's (NW and SW corners) and 2 Shells (NE and SE corners). Now the 2 Shells are still there, but the NW corner Circle K closed and the site was redone and opened as a Starbucks.
After 7-Eleven bought the DFW-area ExxonMobil corporate station/c-store locations a few years ago, there were instances of existing 7-Elevens in view of a converted Exxon or Mobil that became 7-Elevens. This happened in 2 spots north of downtown Dallas; one old/new set is closer together than the other. None of the stores in question have closed, including one of the old ones that doesn't have gas pumps. So apparently there's enough room in that part of town for all of them.
In Van, east of Dallas on I-20, an existing Love's was on the NE corner for years. For some reason, Love's decided to spread their wealth there, and added another full location on the NW corner, with even more food choices. In conjunction, an adjacent Fairfield by Marriott was built there as well. So far, both Love's are still open.
Another Starbucks-upon-Starbucks, in Houston Texas (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.752663,-95.410145,3a,59.5y,24.23h,86.87t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sUMPfuAY9Zqy0gdMWVxOc0g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUMPfuAY9Zqy0gdMWVxOc0g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D84.62036%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100). Lewis Black made a (NSFW) rant (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb7qDfIzQRk&t=4s) about it back in 2001-02.
Closer to my home, two Mapco gas stations (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7476685,-86.7863689,3a,75y,87.83h,89.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4SqkLtswPvq0yhPdy7LbWw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D4SqkLtswPvq0yhPdy7LbWw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D97.47472%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) have thrived side-by-side in Madison, Alabama.
Lots of mattress places
I've seen several pairs of Speedway gas stations within sight of each other. One pair occupying two corners of IN 19 and CR 20 in Elkhart, IN. I have to assume that one of each pair used to be some other brand that got bought out by Speedway.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 06, 2019, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on February 06, 2019, 10:03:19 PM
In Minnesota SuperAmerica bought 7-11 so they have many instances of being across the street from each other.
I associate this with Holiday more than SA. North Branch for some reason has *three* of them; two east of I-35 which are across the street from each other, and one on the west side. Duluth has two Holidays roughly flanking the corner where I-35 ends.
In WI there are places where Kwik Trips co-exist on the same corner, likely where a new larger store was built to supplement an smaller, older unit and the two units coexist together.
I used to work for Holiday, that is funny. It's actually genius to get people going in both directions without making them cross the street.
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 06, 2019, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2019, 10:57:14 PM
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
That really narrows it down. I hope you don't mean the whole United States.
In all seriousness, this constriction isn't true in my town, though a close but no cigar case exists; here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.91545,-77.6544461,3a,16.2y,150.14h,90.37t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D200.63008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100) is a former Sheetz's location. Assuming it is still a Sheetz (and it was prior to 2015 or so), way off into the distance you can barely see the other Sheetz. It's past an overpass and I can make out (what seems to be) a red column from the GSV.
I do mean the whole United States. Now that I mean that, what catastrophe were you fearing?
Near my neighborhood there are two Shell stations more or less diagonally across Franconia Road from each other and you can easily see one from the other: https://goo.gl/maps/x4JBJdskn1C2 (Both are too expensive compared to the other Shell a mile to the east.)
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
I've seen this happen with gas stations as well. Generally, the owner of the gas station has a contract with a certain name, and when that contract is up they sign with someone else, and their name goes on the building. On occasion, just across the street or just down the road, two stations with the same name appear. Sometimes for just a short while; other times for years.
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
My first visit in 1994, West Edmonton Mall in western Canada had duplicate department stores (such as two The Bay stores), usually at opposite ends of that giant mall, as a result of department store chain mergers where the merged company was unable to unload the excess retail space. My last visit a few years ago, the duplication was gone (as was an auto dealership showroom in the mall), now that there is strong enough demand from new retailers to soak up the excess space.
I saw two identical gas stations of the same brand on Highway 50 in Kenosha last weekend - I guess they reasoned they had enough customers traveling in both directions that the two stations wouldn't cannibalize each other.
Two CVS stores within a block of each other near Nagle and Higgins on Chicago's Northwest side
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9754546,-87.785002,17.8z (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9754546,-87.785002,17.8z)
Quote from: texaskdog on February 07, 2019, 08:00:17 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 06, 2019, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on February 06, 2019, 10:03:19 PM
In Minnesota SuperAmerica bought 7-11 so they have many instances of being across the street from each other.
I associate this with Holiday more than SA. North Branch for some reason has *three* of them; two east of I-35 which are across the street from each other, and one on the west side. Duluth has two Holidays roughly flanking the corner where I-35 ends.
In WI there are places where Kwik Trips co-exist on the same corner, likely where a new larger store was built to supplement an smaller, older unit and the two units coexist together.
I used to work for Holiday, that is funny. It's actually genius to get people going in both directions without making them cross the street.
Speaking of Holiday I noticed today they've started to phase in some Circle K branding (the fountain drink cups now have the Circle K logo) after K's parent company acquired Holiday a couple years ago.
Years ago, I was struck by the number of Shell stations along US 27 in Somerset. Part of that was probably because there was a huge distributor of Shell gasoline in the area.
In Frankfort, there are two Five Star food marts across the street from each other on US 60 near I-64. One has BP gas, I think the other has Shell.
Quote from: Rothman on February 07, 2019, 08:09:14 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 06, 2019, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2019, 10:57:14 PM
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
That really narrows it down. I hope you don't mean the whole United States.
In all seriousness, this constriction isn't true in my town, though a close but no cigar case exists; here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.91545,-77.6544461,3a,16.2y,150.14h,90.37t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D200.63008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100) is a former Sheetz's location. Assuming it is still a Sheetz (and it was prior to 2015 or so), way off into the distance you can barely see the other Sheetz. It's past an overpass and I can make out (what seems to be) a red column from the GSV.
I do mean the whole United States. Now that I mean that, what catastrophe were you fearing?
The day that mattress stores take over the world. Before you know it, it'll be total anarchy as people can only shop at mattress stores.
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 07, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 07, 2019, 08:09:14 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 06, 2019, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2019, 10:57:14 PM
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
That really narrows it down. I hope you don't mean the whole United States.
In all seriousness, this constriction isn't true in my town, though a close but no cigar case exists; here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.91545,-77.6544461,3a,16.2y,150.14h,90.37t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D200.63008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100) is a former Sheetz's location. Assuming it is still a Sheetz (and it was prior to 2015 or so), way off into the distance you can barely see the other Sheetz. It's past an overpass and I can make out (what seems to be) a red column from the GSV.
I do mean the whole United States. Now that I mean that, what catastrophe were you fearing?
The day that mattress stores take over the world. Before you know it, it'll be total anarchy as people can only shop at mattress stores.
I believe you are referring to the Franchise Wars. People in 2032 San-Angeles could only eat at Taco Bell, good luck figuring out how to use the three seashells.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 07, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 07, 2019, 08:09:14 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 06, 2019, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2019, 10:57:14 PM
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
That really narrows it down. I hope you don't mean the whole United States.
In all seriousness, this constriction isn't true in my town, though a close but no cigar case exists; here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.91545,-77.6544461,3a,16.2y,150.14h,90.37t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D200.63008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100) is a former Sheetz's location. Assuming it is still a Sheetz (and it was prior to 2015 or so), way off into the distance you can barely see the other Sheetz. It's past an overpass and I can make out (what seems to be) a red column from the GSV.
I do mean the whole United States. Now that I mean that, what catastrophe were you fearing?
The day that mattress stores take over the world. Before you know it, it'll be total anarchy as people can only shop at mattress stores.
I believe you are referring to the Franchise Wars. People in 2032 San-Angeles could only eat at Taco Bell, good luck figuring out how to use the three seashells.
Greetings and salutations!
Quote from: Brandon on February 07, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 07, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 07, 2019, 08:09:14 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 06, 2019, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2019, 10:57:14 PM
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
That really narrows it down. I hope you don't mean the whole United States.
In all seriousness, this constriction isn't true in my town, though a close but no cigar case exists; here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.91545,-77.6544461,3a,16.2y,150.14h,90.37t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DthTfhNvNY5ct2qJ-O1tZYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D200.63008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100) is a former Sheetz's location. Assuming it is still a Sheetz (and it was prior to 2015 or so), way off into the distance you can barely see the other Sheetz. It's past an overpass and I can make out (what seems to be) a red column from the GSV.
I do mean the whole United States. Now that I mean that, what catastrophe were you fearing?
The day that mattress stores take over the world. Before you know it, it'll be total anarchy as people can only shop at mattress stores.
I believe you are referring to the Franchise Wars. People in 2032 San-Angeles could only eat at Taco Bell, good luck figuring out how to use the three seashells.
Greetings and salutations!
Be well Brandon!
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Be well Brandon!
You are fined five credits for violations of the Verbal Morality Statute.
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Be well Brandon!
You are fined five credits for violations of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Good, I couldn't figure out how to use the seashells and needed some toilet paper.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 04:51:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2019, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Be well Brandon!
You are fined five credits for violations of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Good, I couldn't figure out how to use the seashells and needed some toilet paper.
Esta carne es de rata.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 04:51:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2019, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 07, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Be well Brandon!
You are fined five credits for violations of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Good, I couldn't figure out how to use the seashells and needed some toilet paper.
He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!
70th and Havelock in Lincoln, NE has a Casey's on both the NW and SW corners. Eagle, NE, which is the first city east of Lincoln, has 2 Casey's on US 34. I believe in both cases, one was originally built by Casey's and the other was one they bought.
Here in Mason City, we are down to 3 Subways, 2 of which are the one just outside Walmart and the one in Walmart. Starbucks is both in Target and in the small shopping center to the west of Target.
I've seen two of the same gas station brand right across the street from each other. However I see this situation where each one is intended to serve one direction of traffic. I cannot understand why one would put two of the same restaurant (for example) right next to each other.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on February 08, 2019, 05:30:17 AM
I've seen two of the same gas station brand right across the street from each other. However I see this situation where each one is intended to serve one direction of traffic. I cannot understand why one would put two of the same restaurant (for example) right next to each other.
I could see if one chain took over the other and they kept both open for lease compliance reasons, maybe, so as not to eat the cost of an early termination penalty. Maybe.
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?).
Macii :D Frankly, we don't get to use the -ii ending enough as a plural, though I suppose it depends on the root word's origin.
I don't think you can have plural of a possessive; ownership is noted first by the company's name, which is the purpose of the apostrophe-s. Possessive of multiple items would still be apostrophe-s, I suppose, so "Macy's stores" would be grammatically correct.
Then again, it's a proper noun, so it can really be whatever they want to call a plural. People used to wonder what the plural of "Lexus" was (Lexuses or Lexii?) when I worked there, and the answer was indeterminate...likely the -es was correct, and -ii just sounded different. We had no formal word from Toyota on the matter, so it was a little bit of fun conversation.
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AMHonorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
That's rare and surprising; in most cases where that happened (I'm assuming Fair Oaks used to have a Macy's and a Hecht's, and one is a former Hecht's), Macy's would close one of the two stores.
Quote from: formulanone on February 08, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?).
Macii :D Frankly, we don't get to use the -ii ending enough as a plural, though I suppose it depends on the root word's origin.
I don't think you can have plural of a possessive; ownership is noted first by the company's name, which is the purpose of the apostrophe-s. Possessive of multiple items would still be apostrophe-s, I suppose, so "Macy's stores" would be grammatically correct.
Then again, it's proper noun, so it can really be whatever they want to call a plural. People used to wonder what the plural of "Lexus" was (Lexuses or Lexii?) when I worked there, and the answer was indeterminate...likely the -es was correct, and -ii just sounded different. We had no formal word from Toyota on the matter, so it was a little bit of fun conversation.
-ii can only be a plural of -ius.
Quote from: 1 on February 08, 2019, 10:06:52 AM
Quote from: formulanone on February 08, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?).
Macii :D Frankly, we don't get to use the -ii ending enough as a plural, though I suppose it depends on the root word's origin.
I don't think you can have plural of a possessive; ownership is noted first by the company's name, which is the purpose of the apostrophe-s. Possessive of multiple items would still be apostrophe-s, I suppose, so "Macy's stores" would be grammatically correct.
Then again, it's proper noun, so it can really be whatever they want to call a plural. People used to wonder what the plural of "Lexus" was (Lexuses or Lexii?) when I worked there, and the answer was indeterminate...likely the -es was correct, and -ii just sounded different. We had no formal word from Toyota on the matter, so it was a little bit of fun conversation.
-ii can only be a plural of -ius.
Neither cactus nor rhombus end in -ius but their plurals end in -ii
Quote from: cabiness42 on February 08, 2019, 11:21:39 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 08, 2019, 10:06:52 AM
Quote from: formulanone on February 08, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?).
Macii :D Frankly, we don't get to use the -ii ending enough as a plural, though I suppose it depends on the root word's origin.
I don't think you can have plural of a possessive; ownership is noted first by the company's name, which is the purpose of the apostrophe-s. Possessive of multiple items would still be apostrophe-s, I suppose, so "Macy's stores" would be grammatically correct.
Then again, it's proper noun, so it can really be whatever they want to call a plural. People used to wonder what the plural of "Lexus" was (Lexuses or Lexii?) when I worked there, and the answer was indeterminate...likely the -es was correct, and -ii just sounded different. We had no formal word from Toyota on the matter, so it was a little bit of fun conversation.
-ii can only be a plural of -ius.
Neither cactus nor rhombus end in -ius but their plurals end in -ii
Cacti, rhombi. The rule is us → i. Radius becomes radii because the i in radius is unchanged, and then the us becomes a second i. Cactus and rhombus don't have an i to keep.
(3dus → 3di has already been discussed in another thread.)
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2019, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AMHonorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
That's rare and surprising; in most cases where that happened (I'm assuming Fair Oaks used to have a Macy's and a Hecht's, and one is a former Hecht's), Macy's would close one of the two stores.
In northern Miami-Dade county, the Aventura Mall had the first Macy's in Florida when it opened circa 1983. Later on the mall expanded to add a Burdines, which only a short time later became Burdines-Macy's, then just Macy's. Both stores are open; the original focuses on women's and children's fashion, while the newer one is men's fashion along with home furnishings. (The banner used to be a little misleading: "Men's Home Furniture". Man-caves, anyone?)
In Toledo, OH, the now-demolished Southwyck Mall had 2 Lion stores -- one for fashion, the other for home furnishings (the latter opened originally as Lamson's, another local chain). When Dillard's took over The Lion Store, both stores remained as they were.
Quote from: 1 on February 08, 2019, 11:33:23 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on February 08, 2019, 11:21:39 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 08, 2019, 10:06:52 AM
Quote from: formulanone on February 08, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?).
Macii :D Frankly, we don't get to use the -ii ending enough as a plural, though I suppose it depends on the root word's origin.
I don't think you can have plural of a possessive; ownership is noted first by the company's name, which is the purpose of the apostrophe-s. Possessive of multiple items would still be apostrophe-s, I suppose, so "Macy's stores" would be grammatically correct.
Then again, it's proper noun, so it can really be whatever they want to call a plural. People used to wonder what the plural of "Lexus" was (Lexuses or Lexii?) when I worked there, and the answer was indeterminate...likely the -es was correct, and -ii just sounded different. We had no formal word from Toyota on the matter, so it was a little bit of fun conversation.
-ii can only be a plural of -ius.
Neither cactus nor rhombus end in -ius but their plurals end in -ii
Cacti, rhombi. The rule is us → i. Radius becomes radii because the i in radius is unchanged, and then the us becomes a second i. Cactus and rhombus don't have an i to keep.
(3dus → 3di has already been discussed in another thread.)
Octopuses.
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Near my neighborhood there are two Shell stations more or less diagonally across Franconia Road from each other and you can easily see one from the other: https://goo.gl/maps/x4JBJdskn1C2 (Both are too expensive compared to the other Shell a mile to the east.)
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
I looked at Fair Oaks Mall and noticed the two Macy's. However one Macy's store is the home and furniture store and the other Macy's store is the regular Macy's store. Younkers and some other Bon-Ton stores did this as well in several malls before their closure.
Younkers did this at Meridian Mall in Okemos, MI and one time I parked outside of Younkers and went into the mall through Younkers. Then when I was leaving I went to the wrong Younkers store and couldn't figure out why I couldn't find where I parked. Then I looked at mall directory and noticed there were two Younkers stores. I never realized that before that time. This was about 5 years ago.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2019, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AMHonorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
That's rare and surprising; in most cases where that happened (I'm assuming Fair Oaks used to have a Macy's and a Hecht's, and one is a former Hecht's), Macy's would close one of the two stores.
I've been reading up on this mall. One of the stores is a regular Macy's, the other one is Macy's Furniture Gallery.
Quote from: 1 on February 08, 2019, 11:33:23 AM
(3dus → 3di has already been discussed in another thread.)
Not exactly the same thing. That discussion referred to people calling a three-digit US route a "3di" when it should rightly be called a "3dus." A "3di" is a three-digit Interstate route.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 07, 2019, 09:43:01 AM
I saw two identical gas stations of the same brand on Highway 50 in Kenosha last weekend - I guess they reasoned they had enough customers traveling in both directions that the two stations wouldn't cannibalize each other.
I drive by these every day. They are in Pleasant Prairie (just south of the Kenosha border) at the intersection of Highway 50 and County Highway H. There had been a PDQ store on the northwest corner for a number of years. Kwik Trip built a store on the southwest corner a few years ago, and then in 2017 Kwik Trip bought all of the PDQ stores. So now there are Kwip Trip Stores on both sides of Highway 50 on opposite corners, and they both seem to be pretty busy.
Google Streetview is from July 2017 when the northwest corner was still PDQ.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5668429,-87.9139066,3a,75y,255.63h,87.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s63ZYnoGedTZF6MwlwJdM4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
There are two Macy's stores in Lakeside Mall in Sterling Heights, MI. Crowley's, a Detroit-area department store chain, closed down a few years ago and the former Hudson's/Marshall Field's store expanded into the old Crowley's space; Federated kept this arrangement after the Macy's conversion. It carries the men's clothing and housewares departments.
Quote from: Mrt90 on February 08, 2019, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 07, 2019, 09:43:01 AM
I saw two identical gas stations of the same brand on Highway 50 in Kenosha last weekend - I guess they reasoned they had enough customers traveling in both directions that the two stations wouldn't cannibalize each other.
I drive by these every day. They are in Pleasant Prairie (just south of the Kenosha border) at the intersection of Highway 50 and County Highway H. There had been a PDQ store on the northwest corner for a number of years. Kwik Trip built a store on the southwest corner a few years ago, and then in 2017 Kwik Trip bought all of the PDQ stores. So now there are Kwip Trip Stores on both sides of Highway 50 on opposite corners, and they both seem to be pretty busy.
Google Streetview is from July 2017 when the northwest corner was still PDQ.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5668429,-87.9139066,3a,75y,255.63h,87.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s63ZYnoGedTZF6MwlwJdM4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Yes, that was it! Kwik Trip, not to be confused with QuikTrip.
I recall there was an intersection in Salt Lake City which featured two Sinclair stations right across the road from each other, at M Street and South Temple Here's a GSV of one: turn 180 degrees and you'll see the other. (https://goo.gl/maps/hXnZXS8F3xG2)
The funny thing is that neither is left today. One became a Smith's Express, while the other was completely torn down; that lot is now occupied by the Ronald McDonald House.
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
Dillard's is perhaps the king of this. They have double-headers, and even a few triple-headers anchoring some malls, many within view of each other. Granted, one is typically the Men's and Home Store, while the other is the Women's and Children's Store.
Volusia Mall (https://goo.gl/maps/SgHJnmzXNjS2), Daytona Beach, Florida.
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 06, 2019, 09:32:50 PM
How many places can you think of where you can see two (or more!) of the same business? At ground level.
One of the first places that comes to mind is probably McDonald's, since they're like, everywhere. Many roadgeeks can likely think of a location where you can spot two high-mast signs between freeway exits. At one time, at the I-70/I-75 interchange, it was possible to see arches at the Vandalia exit to the north, and the Huber Heights exit to the east; not sure if you still can due to tree growth and construction.
A puzzling example is in Severna Park, MD, where there are two McD's on opposite sides of Ritchie Highway (MD-2) and less than a mile downfield. One is actually on Baltimore-Annapolis Rd (MD-648), but just about at the corner.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/mcdonald's/@39.0789677,-76.5490213,919m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/search/mcdonald's/@39.0789677,-76.5490213,919m/data=!3m1!1e3)
This can sometimes happen with gas stations. In Rockville, MD, there are two Shell stations almost right across MD-355 (Rockville Pike) from each other. There used to be a third Shell directly across sidestreet Rollins Ave. from the northernmost one, but that was demolished and replaced with stores.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0581613,-77.1214177,243m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0581613,-77.1214177,243m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I seem to recall this also happened in Port Washington, NY, on Long Island, where there were 2 Getty stations across a sidestreet from each other on PW Blvd (NY-101). One is now a lube place, and the other is an Exxon (with the sign awkwardly squeezed into a Getty frame). https://goo.gl/maps/49yzqV2cEZ52 (https://goo.gl/maps/49yzqV2cEZ52)
In New Jersey, there were two Exxon stations on opposite sides of Route 33 near the turnpike. Both were around since Esso days. One was in the gore area where Monmouth St. used to branch off and has been gone for some time (possibly due to the construction of NJ-133). The other was at the corner of Milford Rd., and was only demolished recently -- specifically to make way for the relocation of Interchange 8 on the pike.
The award has to go to 7-Eleven, in Manassas, VA, where there are two stores right next door! Granted, one is a classic 7-11 with the gabled roof, while the other is a modern gas station setup with the c-store in the middle and a roof over everything. Yet they both seem to stay in business. (There used to be a third one just down the street, but that's now a AAA service center.)
https://goo.gl/maps/NsJwKD6tEUq (https://goo.gl/maps/NsJwKD6tEUq)
One of the Shrek movies parodied this with Starbucks. When there was some disturbance, all the customers ran screaming out of one "Farbucks" shop, and race into another one right across the street. I'm not sure that I've seen this, though; what I have noticed is multiple stores in close proximity that sell Starbucks coffee and have exterior signs indicating such, but only one, if any, is a dedicated Starbucks.
(Apologies if this thread was done before, but I did a search and could not find.)
In San Luis Obispo, CA, just after Motel 6 bought an old HoJos, there were two Motel 6s at the Los Osos Valley Road exit, both on the west side of US-101. I don't know if they both still exist or have merged into one property subsequently (they were a few hundred meters apart).
I forget the exit on I-80 in Contra Costa county, but there are McDonald's restaurants on each side of the freeway. My geographically challenged ex- would often require multiple phone calls to arrange meetings there.
Taco Bell at one point had no fewer than 4 locations on Folsom Blvd in Sacramento County, but none was visible from the others.
Quote from: michravera on February 08, 2019, 06:11:22 PM
In San Luis Obispo, CA, just after Motel 6 bought an old HoJos, there were two Motel 6s at the Los Osos Valley Road exit, both on the west side of US-101. I don't know if they both still exist or have merged into one property subsequently (they were a few hundred meters apart).
Motel 6 San Luis Obispo North: 1433 Calle Joaquin
Motel 6 San Luis Obispo South: 1625 Calle Joaquin
They're 800 meters apart, just as you described.
Here is GSV of the northern one (https://goo.gl/maps/JEpQ2iV7bZJ2) from the Los Osos Valley Road overpass. The sign is blurry because I've zoomed in, but you can make it out.
And
here is GSV of the southern one (https://goo.gl/maps/xcVRESLnKqF2) from the exact same spot on the overpass.
There used to be two Dunkin Donuts' right down the street from each other (about 1/4 mile apart) in *this location*, until one closed a few years ago. Since then, they've opened up a new location about 3 miles away from the old location.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2019, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AMHonorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
That's rare and surprising; in most cases where that happened (I'm assuming Fair Oaks used to have a Macy's and a Hecht's, and one is a former Hecht's), Macy's would close one of the two stores.
You're correct, one of them was Hecht's and when Macy's took over, they decided they preferred to maintain two stores rather than allowing a competitor to take over the space. Once upon a time there was talk of Nordstrom coming to Fair Oaks, so I can see why Macy's didn't want that.
Quote from: kphoger on February 08, 2019, 06:24:58 PM
Motel 6 San Luis Obispo North: 1433 Calle Joaquin
Motel 6 San Luis Obispo South: 1625 Calle Joaquin
Another place with two Motel 6's within a stone's throw of one another is in Billings, Montana, at 5353 and 5400 Midland Road.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F2a8p1jn.png&hash=5618dbc87304c19e6a385718a5908834077514c3)
Quote from: catch22 on February 08, 2019, 01:55:42 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
There are two Macy's stores in Lakeside Mall in Sterling Heights, MI. Crowley's, a Detroit-area department store chain, closed down a few years ago and the former Hudson's/Marshall Field's store expanded into the old Crowley's space; Federated kept this arrangement after the Macy's conversion. It carries the men's clothing and housewares departments.
That's the same as Fair Oaks Mall pretty much. They just have some departments in one store and other departments in the other store.
In Taipei, convenience stores are really plentiful.
(https://i.imgur.com/I2TqKfF.jpg)
Quote from: Bruce on February 08, 2019, 10:03:34 PM
In Taipei, convenience stores are really plentiful.
(https://i.imgur.com/I2TqKfF.jpg)
Same story in Japan. Even more bewildering, there are vending machines outside convenience stores.
Malls are really the poster child of this thread, as they tend to harbor multiple of the same store. For example, using the King of Prussia mall, there are...
5 Auntie Anne's counters
3 Sunglass Huts
2 Coach's clothing stores
2 Gamestops
2 Shake Shacks
2 Starbucks
and lastly, 2 Time After Times
Most of these examples are in different areas of the mall (the mall is divided into the Court and the Plaza, so one store in each area), but some of these are literally a floor above/below each other. Two of the Auntie Anne's locations are essentially separated by a short walk and a turn down the hallway. I want to say the Gamestops are visible from each other, but I'll need someone to check me on that.
Malls are good places to search for duplicated things. I know one mall in Zaragoza, Spain where there are three of the same store. There's also one point in that city from where two of the same department store, El Corte Ingles, are visible: https://www.google.es/maps/@41.647795,-0.885528,3a,15y,41.92h,92.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sinOf-yBGJny0asuTjWSuzQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (zoomed in to where one is located right at the center of the pic, turn to the right to see the other).
Quote from: Bruce on February 08, 2019, 10:03:34 PM
In Taipei, convenience stores are really plentiful.
Wow, if I'm correct with the one at the background I count no less than three 7-Elevens in that Taibei street :wow:.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 07, 2019, 09:43:01 AM
I saw two identical gas stations of the same brand on Highway 50 in Kenosha last weekend - I guess they reasoned they had enough customers traveling in both directions that the two stations wouldn't cannibalize each other.
Mills Fleet-Farm (a chain of large farm/sporting goods/general stuff stores in the upper Great Lakes region) has two gas stations/C-stores across Wisconsin Ave from each other in front of their store on W Wisconsin Ave (WI 96) here in the Appleton, WI area.
https://goo.gl/maps/E5E7fMXGKn12
Their main store is in the background behind the C-store on the right.
Mike
It just occurred to me that it's fairly common in Mexico for there to be one Pemex gas station on each side of the highway. Here is an example (https://goo.gl/maps/QmKiKUK5cgQ2) I've actually stopped at a couple of times in Sabinas, Coah.
Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2019, 01:43:16 PM
It just occurred to me that it's fairly common in Mexico for there to be one Pemex gas station on each side of the highway. Here is an example (https://goo.gl/maps/QmKiKUK5cgQ2) I've actually stopped at a couple of times in Sabinas, Coah.
I also saw something like that along an A-road near Milton Keynes in England. And, of course, there are all of those toll road service plazas in the US that consist of two identical complexes on either side of the road.
You can see 2 separate Sunoco's while on the PA Turnpike when you're @ the Midway Service Plazas....
Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2019, 01:43:16 PM
It just occurred to me that it's fairly common in Mexico for there to be one Pemex gas station on each side of the highway. Here is an example (https://goo.gl/maps/QmKiKUK5cgQ2) I've actually stopped at a couple of times in Sabinas, Coah.
I'd love to know how often that sign gantry gets nailed at this location.
Quote from: US 89 on February 08, 2019, 02:59:45 PM
I recall there was an intersection in Salt Lake City which featured two Sinclair stations right across the road from each other, at M Street and South Temple Here's a GSV of one: turn 180 degrees and you'll see the other. (https://goo.gl/maps/hXnZXS8F3xG2)
The funny thing is that neither is left today. One became a Smith's Express, while the other was completely torn down; that lot is now occupied by the Ronald McDonald House.
Reminded me of this in Caldwell, ID https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6530624,-116.6727625,3a,43.5y,152.77h,88.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSFIEr_o_7K24mltQD5dWrQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
The one in the Albertsons parking lot used to be an Albertsons Express branded gas station (you can actually see this in the older street view pictures, though I never saw it in person). But Albertsons sold all the Albertsons Express in the Boise area to Stinker Stores, who operates Sinclair branded stations. https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/boise-based-stinker-stores-buying-albertsons-gas-stations/325786714
Has anyone yet mentioned the two Hess stations that were sited across the street from each other adjacent to the former Hess Corporation headquarters? It appears they've continued on as twin Speedways (https://goo.gl/maps/by66HLmf5jx).
A similar example to the twin Sunocos at a few PA Turnpike plazas (already mentioned)–North/South Midway, North/South Somerset, and formerly North/South Neshaminy. I don't believe that the food service offerings are or were the same at any of those pairs...until you go back to Howard Johnson days.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on February 08, 2019, 07:53:18 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 08, 2019, 06:24:58 PM
Motel 6 San Luis Obispo North: 1433 Calle Joaquin
Motel 6 San Luis Obispo South: 1625 Calle Joaquin
Another place with two Motel 6's within a stone's throw of one another is in Billings, Montana, at 5353 and 5400 Midland Road.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F2a8p1jn.png&hash=5618dbc87304c19e6a385718a5908834077514c3)
fresno has the same situation too
motel 6 blackstone north
and turn 180 degress backwards and click forwards two times and you see motel 6 blackstone south.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7934515,-119.7903925,3a,15.3y,185.45h,87.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1strtaEnEhBhIvOARWAhy7TQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
these have been operating since the 90s or 80s i cant remember!
here are two chevrons on the other side of the street a block away from each other.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7536615,-119.8264947,887m/data=!3m1!1e3
Quote from: danthecatrafficlightfan on February 12, 2019, 04:22:55 PM
here are two chevrons on the other side of the street a block away from each other.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7536615,-119.8264947,887m/data=!3m1!1e3
Those are not a block away from each other. They are one
exit away from each other, ¾ mile apart.
Last time I went to downtown San Francisco I was struck by the density of Walgreens and Starbucks locations.
Still, I think the winner has to go to the intersection of Sepulveda and Drollinger Way in Los Angeles (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9558408,-118.3960645,616a,35y,359.35h/data=!3m1!1e3). If you spin in a circle you'll see THREE separate Starbucks locations: two standalone and a third inside the Ralphs Supermarket.
Quote from: djsekani on February 12, 2019, 05:29:12 PM
Last time I went to downtown San Francisco I was struck by the density of Walgreens and Starbucks locations.
Still, I think the winner has to go to the intersection of Sepulveda and Drollinger Way in Los Angeles (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9558408,-118.3960645,616a,35y,359.35h/data=!3m1!1e3). If you spin in a circle you'll see THREE separate Starbucks locations: two standalone and a third inside the Ralphs Supermarket.
Chicago is probably the most dense city for Walgreens of course it's their home market same with Starbucks in Seattle.
I think the closest I've seen two Walgreens located to each other was when I was staying in Chicago one summer. I stayed in Lincoln Park and the closeness of the Walgreens located at Halsted and Diversey to the one located in between Clark and Broadway just north of Diversey is less than a quarter mile.
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Muskegon has two Wesco stations located within 300 yards of each other along Apple Ave: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.23471,-86.2001298,415m/data=!3m1!1e3
In Kentwood, there are two Starbucks within a half mile of each other. One is inside Target while the other is a standalone: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8474226,-85.6202565,711m/data=!3m1!1e3
East Grand Rapids has a freestanding Starbucks across the street from a D&W grocery store that has, you guessed it, a Starbucks (as a bonus, there's another D&W that ALSO has Starbucks a mile and a half south of this D&W/Starbucks): https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9518289,-85.613775,420m/data=!3m1!1e3
Peppino's (a Grand Rapids-area pizza chain) has two locations within a half mile of each other in Allendale. One is takeout and delivery only while the other is a full sports bar: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9733976,-85.9049837,679m/data=!3m1!1e3
You can't see both stores at the same time but in Saginaw there are two BP Express Stop's located within a half mile of each other. It actually works out pretty good because if you're traveling eastbound on State Street (M-58) it'd be easier to hit the one at Mackinaw since State is a one-way street at that point rather than the one at Hemmeter where it's a two-way street and much more difficult to get back going eastbound from the one at Hemmeter. If you're traveling westbound it's easier to hit the one at Hemmeter.
On the left of the image here is the one at Hemmeter which has just BP on Google Maps. The one at Mackinaw is identified as State Street Express Stop. They however are both the same station Express Stop owns all the BP's in Saginaw.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4377287,-84.0010663,1003m/data=!3m1!1e3
Quote from: ftballfan on February 13, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Subway's entire business model appears to be "sign up as many franchisees as possible and collect our fees, who gives a shit if there are so many that they end up cannibalizing each other." I believe they've even been sued over this.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 14, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: ftballfan on February 13, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Subway's entire business model appears to be "sign up as many franchisees as possible and collect our fees, who gives a shit if there are so many that they end up cannibalizing each other." I believe they've even been sued over this.
It seems like their priority is to have as many locations as possible. I don't see that as a good thing.
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 14, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 14, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: ftballfan on February 13, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Subway's entire business model appears to be "sign up as many franchisees as possible and collect our fees, who gives a shit if there are so many that they end up cannibalizing each other." I believe they've even been sued over this.
It seems like their priority is to have as many locations as possible. I don't see that as a good thing.
I had a discussion on Facebook last summer about this. In the Midwest at least it seems even the most rural, podunk towns have one (with Dairy Queen the next offender in this regard). Someone speculated that the overhead costs are probably a lot lower than for something like McDonald's, so that probably explains it.
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 14, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 14, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: ftballfan on February 13, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Subway's entire business model appears to be "sign up as many franchisees as possible and collect our fees, who gives a shit if there are so many that they end up cannibalizing each other." I believe they've even been sued over this.
It seems like their priority is to have as many locations as possible. I don't see that as a good thing.
Because Subway makes money by selling franchisee license. The more they sell, the more money they make. Doesn't matter if the franchisee succeeds or fails, they still make money selling the license. Picture Henry Hill's "fuck you, pay me" voiceover from GoodFellas.
In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
The same thing occurs at I-71/75 exit 175, again it's two Pilot locations.
Quote from: JMoses24 on February 14, 2019, 03:52:44 PM
In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
Didn't one of them used to be something else? Maybe a Flying J that was rebranded as a Pilot?
That's the first chance-last chance for non-RFG on I-71, so prices typically run lower than in Oldham or Jefferson counties, so it gets a lot of business.
Quote from: JMoses24 on February 14, 2019, 03:52:44 PM
In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
The same thing occurs at I-71/75 exit 175, again it's two Pilot locations.
In Michigan exit 167 on I-94 has two Pilot's. One on the NE side and one is on the SW side of the exit.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 15, 2019, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on February 14, 2019, 03:52:44 PM
In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
Didn't one of them used to be something else? Maybe a Flying J that was rebranded as a Pilot?
That's the first chance-last chance for non-RFG on I-71, so prices typically run lower than in Oldham or Jefferson counties, so it gets a lot of business.
I think you're correct about the rebrand but I'm not entirely sure.
Either way, Pilot might be a regular example of this phenomenon with my two examples plus the Michigan one.
Quote from: JMoses24 on February 17, 2019, 02:05:31 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 15, 2019, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on February 14, 2019, 03:52:44 PM
In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
Didn't one of them used to be something else? Maybe a Flying J that was rebranded as a Pilot?
That's the first chance-last chance for non-RFG on I-71, so prices typically run lower than in Oldham or Jefferson counties, so it gets a lot of business.
I think you're correct about the rebrand but I'm not entirely sure.
Either way, Pilot might be a regular example of this phenomenon with my two examples plus the Michigan one.
Not at the same exit but rather at another exit 3 miles apart in Monroe, MI on I-75. There is a Pilot at exit 15 and one at exit 18.
I was looking at the locations in Ohio to see if there was an exit in that state like that and I found something rather interesting. There are two Pilot locations about 60 miles apart but the interesting thing is that one is in a city called Austintown and is at exit 223 off I-80 and the other one is in a city called Austinburg and is at exit 223 off I-90. I just thought it was sort of ironic that two towns with somewhat similar names had the same exit number off an Interstate and had a Pilot at both locations many miles apart.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 14, 2019, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 14, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 14, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: ftballfan on February 13, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Subway's entire business model appears to be "sign up as many franchisees as possible and collect our fees, who gives a shit if there are so many that they end up cannibalizing each other." I believe they've even been sued over this.
It seems like their priority is to have as many locations as possible. I don't see that as a good thing.
Because Subway makes money by selling franchisee license. The more they sell, the more money they make. Doesn't matter if the franchisee succeeds or fails, they still make money selling the license. Picture Henry Hill's "fuck you, pay me" voiceover from GoodFellas.
And then the franchisees open as many locations as possible. I live in a town of about 45,000, and we have 6 Subways and used to have 7. The same franchisee owns 3 of them plus the one that closed in a Walmart directly across the street from a small plaza with another location. 3 are on the same road, 2 are less than a mile either side of I-84. It's the same deal with Dunkin (Donuts) around here: 8 locations in town (used to be 9 with one inside Stop & Shop), one of which will be replaced with a new concept store next door. There even used to be two Friendly's in my town within a mile of each other when Friendly's bought out the old Farm Shop chain.
The reason I can come up with on why there are so many Subway locations (about 26,000 in the United States) is many of Subway's locations are smaller compared to other fast food rivals. It's much less expensive for a franchisee to open a Subway storefront rather than one for McDonald's or Burger King.
Notice the Starbucks straight ahead. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7735646,-77.136671,3a,75y,204.18h,85.46t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sPcNFxYPaA1Y_CBcQJZo0nA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DPcNFxYPaA1Y_CBcQJZo0nA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D70.596924%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
You can't see it from outside, but there is another Starbucks in the grocery store immediately to the left there. There's a third one in the Safeway up the hill at the far end of the shopping center, though the Safeway is not visible from where the Google car was for these photos.
Here in Charleston, SC we used to have two Starbucks you could see from nearly across the street. The College of Charleston library has one, and there was a freestanding location on Calhoun Street maybe 500 feet away. The freestanding location though closed a couple years ago and is now a "Clean Juice."
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 17, 2019, 12:18:13 PM
The reason I can come up with on why there are so many Subway locations (about 26,000 in the United States) is many of Subway's locations are smaller compared to other fast food rivals. It's much less expensive for a franchisee to open a Subway storefront rather than one for McDonald's or Burger King.
True, and you don't need a lot of cooking equipment. A cooler for the prepackaged meats, a small oven to bake bread, and a microwave to heat up the stuff that needs to be warmed. You can set one up on the corner of just about any standard convenience store.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 17, 2019, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 17, 2019, 12:18:13 PM
The reason I can come up with on why there are so many Subway locations (about 26,000 in the United States) is many of Subway's locations are smaller compared to other fast food rivals. It's much less expensive for a franchisee to open a Subway storefront rather than one for McDonald's or Burger King.
True, and you don't need a lot of cooking equipment. A cooler for the prepackaged meats, a small oven to bake bread, and a microwave to heat up the stuff that needs to be warmed. You can set one up on the corner of just about any standard convenience store.
I'm sure that's why a lot of gas stations and truck stops have them.
Today I noticed that the strip mall on the north side of Fullerton between the Metra tracks and the Kennedy has two Starbucks: A freestanding one, and a location in the Jewel.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 17, 2019, 09:23:01 PM
Today I noticed that the strip mall on the north side of Fullerton between the Metra tracks and the Kennedy has two Starbucks: A freestanding one, and a location in the Jewel.
That seems to be pretty common. Around me Kroger added onto to their store and originally was suppose to put a Starbucks in it and another Starbucks was to open about a quarter of a mile away. The stand alone one opened, the one in Kroger didn't.
My memory was that the two CVS's near College Mall in Bloomington, Indiana fulfill this condition, but looking at Street View this seems unlikely. Perhaps at night you could identify the sign for one from the other. If I recall the sequence of events correctly the one on 3rd Street was built new, then later the one on College Mall Rd. was converted from an Osco when CVS bought their free-standing stores. The Osco had originally been paired with a Jewel before Jewel abandoned the market some time around 1990. I recall you could still pass through from the supermarket to the Osco for at least some time even after the former took on other brands, but now it's ceased being a supermarket and is now a Goodwill.
Naw, you can see the sign for the fomerly Osco CVS on College Mall Rd from the CVS on 3rd Street. This streetview image is taken from parking lot of the 3rd Street CVS. You can see the CVS sign in the center of the streetview image and the building itself to the right.
https://goo.gl/maps/tVX4FWk25H42
Having spent seven summers out there I had completely forgotten that there were two CVSs in the same place there. The supermarket in question was O'Malia's, an auxiliary of the now defunct Marsh. Also I had always found it curious that there weren't any Walgreens in Bloomington, I also wondered why.
This thread reminds me of some of the news coverage of the Revere, MA tornado a few years ago.
https://youtu.be/VmCQirsl1FA (Note the eyewitness report at 1:38).
Back in the late 80s, when I went to Hawaii, my wife and I noticed that they had ABC Convenience Stores about every half block near Waikiki Beach. Don't know if that is still the case, but you could easily see three or so from one spot across the street.
These are the two McD's in Severna Park, MD, on Governor Ritchie Highway (State Route 2). The second one is marked by those tiny arches off in the distance, just to the lower-left of the nearer ones.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/27318335125_bca8657030_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HC2Bh2)McDonald's in Severna Park, MD - (https://flic.kr/p/HC2Bh2) by Mike (https://www.flickr.com/photos/63151554@N00/), on Flickr
A close-up of the other sign -- a rare design in which older, larger arches are mounted atop two poles -- may be found here (https://flic.kr/p/HtruTd).
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 18, 2019, 07:09:14 PM
These are the two McD's in Severna Park, MD, on Governor Ritchie Highway (State Route 2). The second one is marked by those tiny arches off in the distance, just to the lower-left of the nearer ones.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/27318335125_bca8657030_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HC2Bh2)McDonald's in Severna Park, MD - (https://flic.kr/p/HC2Bh2) by Mike (https://www.flickr.com/photos/63151554@N00/), on Flickr
A close-up of the other sign -- a rare design in which older, larger arches are mounted atop two poles -- may be found here (https://flic.kr/p/HtruTd).
Everybody loves those old McDonalds signs.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 18, 2019, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 18, 2019, 07:09:14 PM
These are the two McD's in Severna Park, MD, on Governor Ritchie Highway (State Route 2). The second one is marked by those tiny arches off in the distance, just to the lower-left of the nearer ones.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/27318335125_bca8657030_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HC2Bh2)McDonald's in Severna Park, MD - (https://flic.kr/p/HC2Bh2) by Mike (https://www.flickr.com/photos/63151554@N00/), on Flickr
A close-up of the other sign -- a rare design in which older, larger arches are mounted atop two poles -- may be found here (https://flic.kr/p/HtruTd).
Everybody loves those old McDonalds signs.
I prefer the old "over XX billion served" signs that the owner would have to update periodically to the general "billions and billions served" sign.
Did you know white supremacists made a series of memes featuring Mac Tonight? Christ, people are assholes.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 18, 2019, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 18, 2019, 07:25:17 PM
Everybody loves those old McDonalds signs.
I prefer the old "over XX billion served" signs that the owner would have to update periodically to the general "billions and billions served" sign.
One of the first high-mast freeway signs for McD's I encountered said "Billions and Billions Served". This was circa 1977, when they were still keeping count on the regular signs. But that makes sense, since otherwise you'd need to get ahold of a 100-foot bucket truck every time the numbers changed! :-D
Some
really old arch signs listed the number of burgers "Sold" rather than "Served". I wonder if they switched to Served to sound more friendly, or so they could legally include the freebies in the tally (e.g., tour bus drivers eat for free, or at least they did at one time.) Or both.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 14, 2019, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 14, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 14, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: ftballfan on February 13, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Subway's entire business model appears to be "sign up as many franchisees as possible and collect our fees, who gives a shit if there are so many that they end up cannibalizing each other." I believe they've even been sued over this.
It seems like their priority is to have as many locations as possible. I don't see that as a good thing.
I had a discussion on Facebook last summer about this. In the Midwest at least it seems even the most rural, podunk towns have one (with Dairy Queen the next offender in this regard). Someone speculated that the overhead costs are probably a lot lower than for something like McDonald's, so that probably explains it.
In Michigan, Dollar General is worse than Subway. In Manistee County (population ~25,000), there are five Dollar Generals (Manistee, Bear Lake, Copemish, Kaleva, and Wellston) and there is a new location going up in Irons, which isn't in Manistee County but is very close to the county line.
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 19, 2019, 01:44:59 PMOne of the first high-mast freeway signs for McD's I encountered said "Billions and Billions Served". This was circa 1977, when they were still keeping count on the regular signs. But that makes sense, since otherwise you'd need to get ahold of a 100-foot bucket truck every time the numbers changed! :-D
That's why I assumed they did it as well.
Quote from: ftballfan on February 19, 2019, 01:46:45 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 14, 2019, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 14, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 14, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: ftballfan on February 13, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Ludington has two Subways. The Walmart has one while there's a standalone Subway in the strip mall right in front of the Walmart: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9568422,-86.4005759,331m/data=!3m1!1e3
Subway's entire business model appears to be "sign up as many franchisees as possible and collect our fees, who gives a shit if there are so many that they end up cannibalizing each other." I believe they've even been sued over this.
It seems like their priority is to have as many locations as possible. I don't see that as a good thing.
I had a discussion on Facebook last summer about this. In the Midwest at least it seems even the most rural, podunk towns have one (with Dairy Queen the next offender in this regard). Someone speculated that the overhead costs are probably a lot lower than for something like McDonald's, so that probably explains it.
In Michigan, Dollar General is worse than Subway. In Manistee County (population ~25,000), there are five Dollar Generals (Manistee, Bear Lake, Copemish, Kaleva, and Wellston) and there is a new location going up in Irons, which isn't in Manistee County but is very close to the county line.
I see Dollar General's popping up just about everywhere. They even have one on M-13 south of Saginaw on the Albee curve. Where I'm at there are 8 stores within 10 miles, 23 stores within 20 miles, 98 stores within 50 miles and 352 stores within 100 miles. That is just amazing, there are 352 Dollar General's within 100 miles of me.
At this interchange on I-5 between Marysville and Mount Vernon: two 76 gas stations. The eastern one was a Shell station until 2010 or so.
Quote from: cabiness42 on February 07, 2019, 07:58:18 AM
I've seen several pairs of Speedway gas stations within sight of each other. One pair occupying two corners of IN 19 and CR 20 in Elkhart, IN. I have to assume that one of each pair used to be some other brand that got bought out by Speedway.
There is one on either side of US 30 in Upper Sandusky, OH; the tall signs are both visible at once (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8320199,-83.2382122,3a,49y,326.88h,87.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siW4DjQCLj85YU84lkz9Qzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and they each have their own logo on the blue logo sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8179219,-83.236421,3a,15.4y,19.31h,88.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgs-730c0tCtO0sGkN0gpqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) even.
It's been 20 years since I have been to Hawaii but I do recall the ABC Stores being extremely abundant, as well as the Walgreens in Chicago as well as San Francisco and New Orleans that seemed to be too close to each other (e.g., foreground: Walgreens; background across Canal St. a block away: another Walgreens (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9539288,-90.0698645,3a,50.6y,320h,92.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHyZ2SUyS5t089I38Tdsu-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
Quote from: Life in Paradise on February 18, 2019, 01:37:52 PM
Back in the late 80s, when I went to Hawaii, my wife and I noticed that they had ABC Convenience Stores about every half block near Waikiki Beach. Don't know if that is still the case, but you could easily see three or so from one spot across the street.
I was there in 2006, and this was still the case. And any corner that did not have an ABC store had a Starbucks.
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Quote from: Life in Paradise on February 18, 2019, 01:37:52 PM
Back in the late 80s, when I went to Hawaii, my wife and I noticed that they had ABC Convenience Stores about every half block near Waikiki Beach. Don't know if that is still the case, but you could easily see three or so from one spot across the street.
I was there in 2006, and this was still the case. And any corner that did not have an ABC store had a Starbucks.
Still true in 2018 when I was there. Right around here (https://www.google.com/maps/search/abc/@21.2725968,-157.8231586,18.7z) there seem to be four of them within roughly a block.
New Jersey used to have two Hess Stations across the street on US 9 in Woodbridge right next to its headquarters. However, no business lost because of the fact US 9 is a Jersey Freeway with no median breaks so it conveniently serves the traffic of the two directions of US 9.
Same years ago in Union on US 22 there were two Exxons across from one another near the former Two Guys between Vauxhall Road and the GSP. Again to serve motorists going either way as US 22 is also with no breaks as a Jersey Freeway.
In Davenport, FL there are two 7 Elevens at the I-4 and US 27 interchange. Plus McDonalds shows two stores on its logo sign for Exit 58 but the two are over a mile apart as one store is 0.3 miles to the west and the other is 1 mile to the east on CR 532.
Quote from: JMoses24 on February 14, 2019, 03:52:44 PM
In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
The same thing occurs at I-71/75 exit 175, again it's two Pilot locations.
Also off I-65's Exit 6 in Franklin, KY. Two Pilot's across the street from each other west of the interchange.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 15, 2019, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on February 14, 2019, 03:52:44 PM
In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
Didn't one of them used to be something else? Maybe a Flying J that was rebranded as a Pilot?
That's the first chance-last chance for non-RFG on I-71, so prices typically run lower than in Oldham or Jefferson counties, so it gets a lot of business.
The two Pilot's at Exit 28 in Pendleton used to be two other companies. First, the original Pilot at the interchange was at the now adult bookstore. The Pilot across from that used to be a Speedway. The Pilot across I-71 used to be a Williams. Pilot bought out Williams and rebranded those as Pilots. The same situation occurred in Franklin, KY whereas the Pilot on the south side of KY 100 was a Speedway and the Pilot on the north side of KY 100 was a Williams.
Just thought of another one--two Pilots at I-75's Exit 129 in Georgetown, KY. One east and one west of the interchange. The one east was an original Pilot, the one west used to be a Speedway (one can see the comparisons between the one here and the one in Pendleton, KY).
As of a few years ago, Pilot and Flying J have merged as one company with two brands. Also, the same occurred for TA and Petro.
Quote from: Big John on February 06, 2019, 09:44:50 PM
In the South, one could see 2 Waffle House restaurants.
In the Mattress Firm thread, those could be seen on the same corner until they filed for Chapter 11 to close redundant locations.
Murfreesboro, TN Waffle House on both sides of Exit 78 off of I-24.
Take a drive around La Crosse, WI, the home base for convenience store chain Kwik Trip. There will be a Kwik Trip literally on every corner along any of the main drags.
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 07, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
The day that mattress stores take over the world. Before you know it, it'll be total anarchy as people can only shop at mattress stores.
It will be known as the "Mattress Event Horizon." (with apologies to Douglas Adams)
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2019, 10:57:14 PM
Got to be places where you see mattress stores near each other.
In the Hammock District, of course.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2019, 08:40:50 AM
Honorable mention: Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax has two Macy's stores (Macyses?). You can't see one from the other, but two of the same department store in the same mall feels like it fits the spirit of this thread.
There are two Macy's stores in Lakeside Mall in Sterling Heights, MI. Crowley's, a Detroit-area department store chain, closed down a few years ago and the former Hudson's/Marshall Field's store expanded into the old Crowley's space; Federated kept this arrangement after the Macy's conversion. It carries the men's clothing and housewares departments.
Belk has the same arrangement with the former Parisans at the Cool Springs Mall in Franklin, TN and Hamilton Place Mall in Chattanooga, TN. I have seen others as well.
Noticed this yesterday. (https://goo.gl/maps/D6p4pNuqrU6u2xyv5) I wouldn't be surprised by two Starbucks on one logo sign, but two Taco Times on one logo sign seems unusual.
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 05, 2019, 09:27:49 PM
Noticed this yesterday. (https://goo.gl/maps/D6p4pNuqrU6u2xyv5) I wouldn't be surprised by two Starbucks on one logo sign, but two Taco Times on one logo sign seems unusual.
Two LOGOS for the same brand are not uncommon on freeway signs serving double exit interchanges. But on a trailblazer at an at-grade intersection on an undivided road is unusual for any brand.
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 18, 2019, 09:07:48 PM
I prefer the old "over XX billion served" signs that the owner would have to update periodically to the general "billions and billions served" sign.
I'm old enough to remember when they changed from "over 1 million served" to "over 2 million served". That's million with an M.
Quote from: roadman on May 06, 2019, 11:58:18 AM
Two LOGOS for the same brand are not uncommon on freeway signs serving double exit interchanges.
Just an observation, but I've noticed that you consistently write "logo" in all caps. Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason behind that?
Courtyard by Mariott in literally every town in America I swear. Theres one where I live, and another one in the next 3 towns.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on May 06, 2019, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 06, 2019, 11:58:18 AM
Two LOGOS for the same brand are not uncommon on freeway signs serving double exit interchanges.
Just an observation, but I've noticed that you consistently write "logo" in all caps. Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason behind that?
Force of habit. The term LOGO is spelled in all caps whenever it is used in the MassDOT
Supplemental Sign Policy.
Quote from: roadman on May 08, 2019, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on May 06, 2019, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 06, 2019, 11:58:18 AM
Two LOGOS for the same brand are not uncommon on freeway signs serving double exit interchanges.
Just an observation, but I've noticed that you consistently write "logo" in all caps. Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason behind that?
Force of habit. The term LOGO is spelled in all caps whenever it is used in the MassDOT Supplemental Sign Policy.
Thanks.
Isn't there two McDonalds in view of each other on US 1 in Spotsylvania, VA?
Two bikeshare stations across the street at Atwater Market in Montreal
(https://i.imgur.com/DJcdyg3.jpg)
In Henrico County, VA (and just outside Richmond limits), there are 2 Chick-Fil-A's in the area of Willow Lawn Shopping Center. One is in the shopping center itself, facing Willow Lawn Dr. The other is a stand-alone location directly across Broad St (US 250). Both can be easily seen from either Willow Lawn Dr or the parking lot in front of the shopping center location.
In downtown Newport News, VA, two 7-11's are located near the southern end of the Shipyard. One is at the corner of Washington Ave & 36th St, the other at West Ave & 34th St. Both are visible from almost anywhere on the Newport News Transit Center property.
I remember seeing two hotels of the same brand across the interstate from each other in Nashville. It think it was Motel 6.
Quote from: golden eagle on July 03, 2019, 12:02:35 AM
I remember seeing two hotels of the same brand across the interstate from each other in Nashville. It think it was Motel 6.
Did they leave the light on for you? ;)
Quote from: tchafe1978 on May 01, 2019, 11:25:46 AM
Take a drive around La Crosse, WI, the home base for convenience store chain Kwik Trip. There will be a Kwik Trip literally on every corner along any of the main drags.
Likewise, Casey's General Stores have a huge presence in its headquarters of Ankeny, IA, including two within a quarter-mile of each other on Delaware Avenue. (One was built as a Casey's, while the other was acquired from another chain.)
Also, Pilot has two travel centers in Walcott, IA, that compete with the enormous Iowa 80 Truckstop.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on July 03, 2019, 12:05:28 AM
Quote from: golden eagle on July 03, 2019, 12:02:35 AM
I remember seeing two hotels of the same brand across the interstate from each other in Nashville. It think it was Motel 6.
Did they leave the light on for you? ;)
They did! Would've been even better if Tom Bodette and the violin player were there.
I like when a mall has a fast food in it that is also outside the mall. The Florida Mall used to have a Friendly's inside the mall and one outside on the corner of OBT and Sand Lake Road. Sadly Friendly's is all gone in Central Florida as Kissimmee was the last remaining store that closed sometime around 2011.
Just discovered a new one in West Bountiful, Utah. The intersection of 500 West (US 89) and 400 North (SR 106) used to feature a Chevron, Sinclair, and Exxon on three of the four corners. Sometime between last summer and now, the Sinclair became a Chevron, so now there are two Chevrons directly across the street from each other:
(https://i.imgur.com/8ewZElm.jpg)
https://goo.gl/maps/VHT83RMofYv8rnad6
Two Kwik-Trips - one at each corner.
Quote from: US 89 on February 08, 2019, 02:59:45 PM
I recall there was an intersection in Salt Lake City which featured two Sinclair stations right across the road from each other, at M Street and South Temple Here's a GSV of one: turn 180 degrees and you'll see the other. (https://goo.gl/maps/hXnZXS8F3xG2)
The funny thing is that neither is left today. One became a Smith's Express, while the other was completely torn down; that lot is now occupied by the Ronald McDonald House.
This post has been invaluable for me, as after this I searched for
every Ronald McDonald House in the country, and these days as I cannot go anywhere in real life I'm connecting them in Street View. BTW, that RMH in question is the perfect antithesis to this thread, as it is the most isolated one in the lower 48, the closest one being in Boise.
Quote from: Bruce on June 09, 2019, 01:26:55 AM
Two bikeshare stations across the street at Atwater Market in Montreal
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It shouldn't surprise anybody if this is a heavily trafficked area. There are also two bikeshare stations right next to each other (https://www.google.es/maps/@41.3877565,2.1695899,3a,63.1y,215.29h,83.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sV0TspjsoJ33Neiv7lhuQIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) in Barcelona's Plaça Catalunya, right dead in the city center.
Not sure about America, but here are two 7-Elevens in Taiwan:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/7_ELEVEn_Outles_in_Sindian.jpg/202px-7_ELEVEn_Outles_in_Sindian.jpg)
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 21, 2020, 07:57:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/VHT83RMofYv8rnad6
Two Kwik-Trips - one at each corner.
I was in Madison a few months ago driving on Fish Hatchery Rd. There are two Kwik Trips across the road from each other at the same intersection just north of the Beltline. I didn't even notice the one on my right as I turned left to go into the one on the opposite side of the road. I only noticed as I was leaving. Kwik Trips are becoming so ubiquitous in Wisconsin you don't even notice them anymore!
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 21, 2020, 07:57:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/VHT83RMofYv8rnad6
Two Kwik-Trips - one at each corner.
What are they building on the other corner?
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 22, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Didn't they just close one of them?
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 22, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Didn't they just close one of them?
That make one a Came & Went?
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2020, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 22, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Didn't they just close one of them?
That make one a Came & Went?
Well played!
(Fair warning: keep the humor up and I'm going to start expecting it. ;-))
Quote from: tchafe1978 on April 22, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 21, 2020, 07:57:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/VHT83RMofYv8rnad6
Two Kwik-Trips - one at each corner.
I was in Madison a few months ago driving on Fish Hatchery Rd. There are two Kwik Trips across the road from each other at the same intersection just north of the Beltline. I didn't even notice the one on my right as I turned left to go into the one on the opposite side of the road. I only noticed as I was leaving. Kwik Trips are becoming so ubiquitous in Wisconsin you don't even notice them anymore!
Maybe more so than any other state I know of, Kwik Trip in Wisconsin is just as likely to be the small town corner store as it is a major interstate truck stop. Many towns near interstates have both versions of them. They had a fair presence in southeastern Minnesota in the counties close to La Crosse, but have within the last five years become a serious competitor in eastern and central Minnesota.
And indeed their line of high-quality, low-price products coupled with their hot food options have largely taken my business over the legacy Holiday chain.
Quote from: golden eagle on July 03, 2019, 12:02:35 AM
I remember seeing two hotels of the same brand across the interstate from each other in Nashville. It think it was Motel 6.
Yes, that would be at I-24 and TN 255 Harding Place. The Motel 6 up on the hill was originally a Regal 8 Inn, and that chain was bought out by Motel 6 in the 90's. The other one has been a Motel 6 ever since its inception probably in the 70's.
Also FYI, do NOT stay at any of the hotels at this exit. This neighborhood is terrible, and for as long as I can remember it has been marginal at best.
Quote from: wriddle082 on April 22, 2020, 11:49:13 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on July 03, 2019, 12:02:35 AM
I remember seeing two hotels of the same brand across the interstate from each other in Nashville. It think it was Motel 6.
Yes, that would be at I-24 and TN 255 Harding Place. The Motel 6 up on the hill was originally a Regal 8 Inn, and that chain was bought out by Motel 6 in the 90's. The other one has been a Motel 6 ever since its inception probably in the 70's.
Also FYI, do NOT stay at any of the hotels at this exit. This neighborhood is terrible, and for as long as I can remember it has been marginal at best.
According to Google Maps, both of those have different names now. The one on the west side is now Rodeway Inn and the one on the east side is now Somatel.
Speaking of gas stations, Wesco (a regional chain serving mostly the Lake Michigan shoreline in Michigan) has two locations across the street from each other in Fruitport: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1351617,-86.1550439,257m/data=!3m1!1e3
Now that this topic has been revived, I can mention that not far from where I used to live in Papillion, NE, there is a Casey's both going east and going west on Cornhusker Road from 72nd St. One was originally a Casey's and the other was a Fantasy's, which Casey's bought out.
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 22, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Didn't they just close one of them?
I drove past them the other day and they both appear to be open
There are two Five Star food marts on US 60 at the I-64 exit at Frankfort, but one is a Shell and the other is a BP.
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2020, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2020, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 22, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Didn't they just close one of them?
That make one a Came & Went?
Well played!
(Fair warning: keep the humor up and I'm going to start expecting it. ;-))
I had one MUCH less safe for the forum lined up, but opted for a PG comment.
Quote from: SectorZ on April 27, 2020, 08:32:22 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2020, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2020, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 22, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Didn't they just close one of them?
That make one a Came & Went?
Well played!
(Fair warning: keep the humor up and I'm going to start expecting it.)
I had one MUCH less safe for the forum lined up, but opted for a PG comment.
Now I'm curious.. I can only imagine :-D
Quote from: webny99 on April 27, 2020, 10:58:22 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 27, 2020, 08:32:22 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 22, 2020, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2020, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 22, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
There are two Kum & Gos just across the street from each other on the north side of Springfield.
Didn't they just close one of them?
That make one a Came & Went?
Well played!
(Fair warning: keep the humor up and I'm going to start expecting it.)
I had one MUCH less safe for the forum lined up, but opted for a PG comment.
Now I'm curious.. I can only imagine :-D
I'm 99% sure I know what it is.
2 Pilots at the 129 exit on 75 in Kentucky
At one time there was 2 Kroger stores like a mile apart in Lexington Ky
Somewhere in Georgia they have 2 Waffle Houses at the same exit
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Quote from: ibthebigd on April 28, 2020, 12:38:09 PM
Somewhere in Georgia they have 2 Waffle Houses at the same exit
There are a whole bunch of exits like that.
Las Vegas you have several of everything
CVS
Walgreens
ABC Store
McDonalds
Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg has several of the same hotel local restaurants ect
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Quote from: 1995hoo on February 08, 2019, 07:36:25 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on February 08, 2019, 05:30:17 AM
I've seen two of the same gas station brand right across the street from each other. However I see this situation where each one is intended to serve one direction of traffic. I cannot understand why one would put two of the same restaurant (for example) right next to each other.
I could see if one chain took over the other and they kept both open for lease compliance reasons, maybe, so as not to eat the cost of an early termination penalty. Maybe.
A NE intersection of our town has something similar. Two Circle K gas station diagonally across from each other. I thought chain consolidation might have originally been the case but these have both been open for several years now. This GSV image is grainy but it shows the issue.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8311536,-89.6057936,22a,35y,96.58h,79.05t/data=!3m1!1e3
Here in Vaughan, Ontario, there are two Dollaramas (Dollar store) across the street from each other at Rutherford Road and Highway 400.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzkRY63g.png&hash=19aae7d15b865e19270991d20d70cf705c1753b6)
There's a Tmobile and a Sprint store in the same plaza near my house.
Can't remember if I've posted this here before...
There used to be 2 Sunoco's at the same intersection here (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2053245,-77.4746343,3a,75y,149.49h,87.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syUeZbi8GDrkLSjMyMsf2sg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), but one is now a Speedway.
Spencer, IA has 2 Casey's General Stores almost across the highway from each other. One is an older style building & the other is a newer style building.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1302399,-95.1440192,3a,75y,157.75h,94.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXhxH0zYBObX3-17yEj3WLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1302399,-95.1440192,3a,75y,157.75h,94.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXhxH0zYBObX3-17yEj3WLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
(https://doc-08-bs-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/1lbmojivpab697qugg79fa964u9nqeaa/dtn8t7jh3uio281i33jko6b0qt0o4iqj/1588466925000/10979250028154753412/10979250028154753412/1GJorKPZwABzOBOejogK9dHHNw9FJ4WKv?e=view&authuser=0)
The shopping area near Annapolis, MD has two Home Depots about 0.6 miles apart as the crow flies (1.4 miles via road). There probably isn't any ground location where you could spot both of them, though, due to trees and buildings. They are also separated by US-50/301/John Hanson Hwy.
Historic example from Downtown Seattle in the 1950s: two Bartell Drugs at the same intersection of 4th/Pike/Westlake.
(https://i.imgur.com/S5CMnxk.png)
Quote from: Bruce on June 13, 2020, 08:32:35 PM
Historic example from Downtown Seattle in the 1950s: two Bartell Drugs at the same intersection of 4th/Pike/Westlake.
(https://i.imgur.com/S5CMnxk.png)
And in 2020 four Starbucks at the same intersection haha.
When there's several of a store at the same intersection, are they owned by one owner??? Because if they were multiple franchisees then they must have a rivalry...
Quote from: amroad17 on May 01, 2019, 01:19:25 AM
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In the town of Pendleton, KY (not to be confused with Pendleton County which is 50 miles east) on SR 153, there are two Pilot truck stops, one on each side of Interstate 71 exit 28.
Didn't one of them used to be something else? Maybe a Flying J that was rebranded as a Pilot?
That's the first chance-last chance for non-RFG on I-71, so prices typically run lower than in Oldham or Jefferson counties, so it gets a lot of business.
The two Pilot's at Exit 28 in Pendleton used to be two other companies. First, the original Pilot at the interchange was at the now adult bookstore. The Pilot across from that used to be a Speedway. The Pilot across I-71 used to be a Williams. Pilot bought out Williams and rebranded those as Pilots. The same situation occurred in Franklin, KY whereas the Pilot on the south side of KY 100 was a Speedway and the Pilot on the north side of KY 100 was a Williams.
Just thought of another one--two Pilots at I-75's Exit 129 in Georgetown, KY. One east and one west of the interchange. The one east was an original Pilot, the one west used to be a Speedway (one can see the comparisons between the one here and the one in Pendleton, KY).
As of a few years ago, Pilot and Flying J have merged as one company with two brands. Also, the same occurred for TA and Petro.
There are currently two Pilot truck stops in Wildwood, Florida. The one on the east side of I-75 used to be a Gate.
Google Maps has two Pilot Truck Stops at Exit 1 on I-95 in St. Mary's, Georgia. The one on the west side used to be a Hess/Wilco Travel Center, and from what I can see, the one on the east side seems to be closing.
I can think of two in my area:
Two Holiday gas stations directly across the road from one another (https://goo.gl/maps/nMmea8MBtV5yjBXN7) (note the Holiday sign in the foreground and the sign for the other Holiday station on the far left). They've both been there since at least 2008, per the Streetviews.
Caribou Coffee and Caribou Coffee (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Caribou+Coffee/Caribou+Coffee,+2423+Division+St+West,+St+Cloud,+MN+56301/@45.5528792,-94.1892983,311m/data=!3m2!1e3!5s0x52b45fb093b65c0b:0x74d4b1d882d1b300!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x52b45fb0917bddd1:0x6f390d34659b5d90!2m2!1d-94.1889671!2d45.5520961!1m5!1m1!1s0x52b45fb0917bddd1:0x548f9a51bd03f158!2m2!1d-94.1876578!2d45.5534606!3e0) (one of them is inside of a grocery store, but it has signage on the exterior of the building so I think it counts as being "visible" from the location across the street)
This is an interesting one, and it may be pushing it, but I think it is interesting: I don't remember where, but there was a stretch of road in JS with 2 towns, about 3-4 miles apart.you could see the tallest structures in the towns from each other (or, you could see one from the other, didn't go both directions on that road, but I think it's safe to assume...). One was possibly on a US highway, the other was on an interstate or a limited access road. Anyway, there was 2 Loves travel stops, one was a local one, and the one by the interstate was the big truck stop kind. They both had the big gas station-type signs about 100 feet high. You could (barely) make out one loves from another. I wonder how often that type of thing occurs?
Two towns in Kansas that are only 3-4 miles apart, that aren't just suburbs of a city? I kind of doubt it. :no:
Quote from: kphoger on March 02, 2021, 12:51:29 PM
Two towns in Kansas that are only 3-4 miles apart, that aren't just suburbs of a city? I kind of doubt it. :no:
At least for me, distances are hard to judge in flat, rural areas. You think something's right there, and it's actually several miles away.
So with that said, it could definitely be more than 3-4 miles, but even so, I'm not seeing two Love's that close together.
Holcomb and Garden City both have a Loves, and the latter is near an interchange (although not an interstate).
Quote from: webny99 on March 02, 2021, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 02, 2021, 12:51:29 PM
Two towns in Kansas that are only 3-4 miles apart, that aren't just suburbs of a city? I kind of doubt it. :no:
At least for me, distances are hard to judge in flat, rural areas. You think something's right there, and it's actually several miles away.
So with that said, it could definitely be more than 3-4 miles, but even so, I'm not seeing two Love's that close together.
Holcomb and Garden City both have a Loves, and the latter is near an interchange (although not an interstate).
Holcomb has one near the interchange as well: the one in town isn't the only location.
It's a possibility.
Murfreesboro, TN has a Waffle House on either side of I-24. You can see both.
This one's a bit of an unusual one: Someone opened up a used car lot at a former gas station on 130 in Brooklawn, NJ. Then, he opened up a 2nd location across the street at another former gas station, with the same exact name!
https://goo.gl/maps/RDJiMk1E3KYuZDck6
Pardon me for repeating this, but it wasn't in this thread and only eluded to in the Mattress Firm thread.
Originally, there were two Mattress Firm stores close to each along US-15/501 between Durham and Chapel Hill (one beside McDonald's across from South Square and the other in New Hope Commons north side shoppes). During the redevelopment of the Witherspoon Rose properties (across from north New Hope Commons), a new competitor put up signs while the building was still under construction. It think this was Sleep America. Mattress Firm grabbed the space next door and both stores opened up about the same time. A few months later, the competitor closes and a Mattress Firm Clearance store opens in its place. This was all about the time that Mattress Firm purchased all of Sleep America. Anyhow, for a while there were three Mattress Firm stores all visible to each other (two of them side-by-side).
I've never taken a close look, but I think they've knocked down the wall in between and now occupy both storefronts. After bankruptcy, Mattress Firm closed the store across from South Square and I think the one in New Hope Commons has closed also (sometimes it still pops up on Ducky).
This one doesn't technically count but I saw a Marshall's and Tj Maxx across the street from each other in Greenwood Indiana.
Both are owned by the same company and to me are basically the same store different name.
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