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mukade:
--- Quote from: cabiness42 on March 04, 2022, 01:41:42 PM ---If we went strictly by water drainage, the Ohio Valley section would get within a few miles of South Bend, and nobody would consider that area to be part of the Ohio Valley.
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Excellent point. As a matter of fact, creeks that enter St. John and Crown Point in Lake County also don't drain into the Great Lakes.
--- Quote from: webny99 on March 04, 2022, 03:09:19 PM ---Regardless of the technical definition of Ohio Valley, content from one state in two different boards is the problem, so I think everything from those states should go in a single board. I don't really care which one, just as long as they're not split.
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I agree that the states split between two boards is a very confusing and sub-optimal situation. It has been a problem all along. As far as not caring which board, I disagree. Despite clear regional differences within states like Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio, they are all Great Lakes states - I have nothing whatsoever against southern states, but these states are northern states.
The Ohio River Valley board is the only one that is defined by a river valley which seems weird and somewhat arbitrary. The boundary between the areas is vague and subjective as proven by the different interpretations in this thread.
1:
--- Quote from: mukade on March 04, 2022, 08:47:53 PM ---Despite clear regional differences within states like Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio, they are all Great Lakes states - I have nothing whatsoever against southern states, but these states are northern states.
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I remember this exchange a few years ago, but I can't find it with a search.
Someone else: All of Kentucky belongs in the South.
Me: Is there really that much of a difference when you cross the river into Cincinnati?
Same person: No, Cincinnati has more in common with the South than what's typically thought of as the Midwest.
hbelkins:
--- Quote from: 1 on March 05, 2022, 08:32:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: mukade on March 04, 2022, 08:47:53 PM ---Despite clear regional differences within states like Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio, they are all Great Lakes states - I have nothing whatsoever against southern states, but these states are northern states.
--- End quote ---
I remember this exchange a few years ago, but I can't find it with a search.
Someone else: All of Kentucky belongs in the South.
Me: Is there really that much of a difference when you cross the river into Cincinnati?
Same person: No, Cincinnati has more in common with the South than what's typically thought of as the Midwest.
--- End quote ---
Actually, most people in Kentucky think that the people who are in the three northernmost counties have more in common with the Midwest than the South.
Very much the same for Louisville.
But in reality, very little of Kentucky is what I call "southern." It's more of an Appalachian state than anything else.
US 89:
--- Quote from: hbelkins on March 06, 2022, 06:50:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: 1 on March 05, 2022, 08:32:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: mukade on March 04, 2022, 08:47:53 PM ---Despite clear regional differences within states like Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio, they are all Great Lakes states - I have nothing whatsoever against southern states, but these states are northern states.
--- End quote ---
I remember this exchange a few years ago, but I can't find it with a search.
Someone else: All of Kentucky belongs in the South.
Me: Is there really that much of a difference when you cross the river into Cincinnati?
Same person: No, Cincinnati has more in common with the South than what's typically thought of as the Midwest.
--- End quote ---
Actually, most people in Kentucky think that the people who are in the three northernmost counties have more in common with the Midwest than the South.
Very much the same for Louisville.
But in reality, very little of Kentucky is what I call "southern." It's more of an Appalachian state than anything else.
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The I-24 corridor felt pretty southern to me when I drove through there this past summer, but that might be too far west to get any Appalachian feel to it.
Rothman:
--- Quote from: hbelkins on March 06, 2022, 06:50:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: 1 on March 05, 2022, 08:32:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: mukade on March 04, 2022, 08:47:53 PM ---Despite clear regional differences within states like Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio, they are all Great Lakes states - I have nothing whatsoever against southern states, but these states are northern states.
--- End quote ---
I remember this exchange a few years ago, but I can't find it with a search.
Someone else: All of Kentucky belongs in the South.
Me: Is there really that much of a difference when you cross the river into Cincinnati?
Same person: No, Cincinnati has more in common with the South than what's typically thought of as the Midwest.
--- End quote ---
Actually, most people in Kentucky think that the people who are in the three northernmost counties have more in common with the Midwest than the South.
Very much the same for Louisville.
But in reality, very little of Kentucky is what I call "southern." It's more of an Appalachian state than anything else.
--- End quote ---
My mother considers herself a Southerner and from Appalachia, despite being born in WV and growing up in Floyd County, KY.
The complications from the Civil War alignments persist. :D
That said, when she talks about "Eastern Kentucky," the line is very far to the southeast. She doesn't consider Lexington to be Eastern KY, for example, but "Horse Country" and the like.
What is interesting is that she and my relatives do think they have more in common with Louisville than Cincinnati. The connection to Huntington and Charleston also is strong (main TV stations came from Huntington when I was a kid).
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