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This is the way I look at it: The money consumers pay now goes to channel providers and bundlers. If the channel providers eliminate the bundlers, that's less overall money consumers have to pay.

Will certain channels cost more? Yes, but that is outweighed by not having to pay for all the channels we get now but don't want. Even better if some channels go out of business and there's less money channel providers need to make.


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--- Quote from: SP Cook on October 03, 2022, 09:02:04 AM ---- Those who wish of “a la carte” TV channels should be very careful what they wish for, as they just might get it.  A la carte is totally anti-consumer.  The bundle protects the consumer and makes the 1000s of off-beat niche channels available.  Without it, most would not ever have existed. 

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If you don't care about a niche cable channel enough to want to pay for it, why would you care whether it existed in the first place?

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I think his point is that you might be unpleasantly surprised at how many channels you think are "not niche" but end up being considered too "niche" to exist anymore.  Especially channels like Turner Classic Movies:  without it, where would TV viewers go to watch old black-and-white horror flicks on Halloween?


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--- Quote from: vdeane on October 02, 2022, 04:26:11 PM ---This type of issue is the reason why I've been hesitant to get some form of cable subscription, even if my reception isn't always the best.

--- Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on October 02, 2022, 10:37:42 AM ---When are we finally going to eliminate the middle man "providers" and be able to subscribe to channels directly?

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Streaming one's local station for CBS is possible with Paramount+.  I don't recall if the same is true with NBC and Peacock or not.  Disney has chosen not to do the same with ABC and FOX.  PBS actually allows such streaming for free online.  The CW is co-owned by two companies, which complicates things.

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--- Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on October 02, 2022, 10:37:42 AM ---When are we finally going to eliminate the middle man "providers" and be able to subscribe to channels directly?

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The cable business model of yesteryear is now the streaming model of now.  Thinking the middle man will be eliminated is quixotic.

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But streaming allows companies to market their channels directly. We already have Disney+ and ESPN+. Disney could easily package their channels with one or both. Comcast could market their channels with Peacock. Paramount could market their channels with Paramount+. The only major TV company that doesn't have its own streaming platform right now is FOX.

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While FOX doesn't have the overarching streaming app like Peacock and Paramount+ as of yet, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to put FOX's current entertainment programming onto Tubi. Unfortunately, FOX Nation is the best one's going to get for the next few years as far as a FOX News live streaming app, (we can thank CNN+ for doing this damage) and FOX Sports has somewhat the same issue with putting its premium sports product on live streaming that ESPN does.

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The FOX entertainment division is owned by Disney, so wouldn't that make Hulu/Disney+ the streaming apps for FOX just like they are for ABC?

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At least NBC and Telemundo affiliates owned by Comcast inc would stream on Peacock app like KNBC, KVEA Los Angeles, KNTV /KSTS San Jose.
CBS and CW affiliates owned by Paramount inc would stream on Paramount+ and the CBS News app.

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FYI, Paramount+ doesn't just have CBS-owned stations, but they are geo-targeted; they pull from whatever the local station is wherever you are (using your browser's current location, so when you travel, you get the local station of wherever you're traveling to).

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How does location even work on something like a laptop which doesn't have cellular connection, GPS or anything else that determines location?

IP addresses can be geolocated, with caveats. (At my last two jobs, our IP address geolocated to Ada, Oklahoma, about 90 minutes away from where I actually worked, since that was where company headquarters was and thus where our network traffic was routed through.)


--- Quote from: Scott5114 on October 03, 2022, 07:22:28 PM ---IP addresses can be geolocated, with caveats.

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And, if this sort of thing intrigues you, then you should watch the video below.



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