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[tolbs17]

IN 46 got asked to sit in the corner instead of being in the center of the room with the others here.

Weird!

[renegade]

IN 46 got asked to sit in the corner instead of being in the center of the room with the others here.

Weird!

No.  Indiana.

[wanderer2575]

IN 46 got asked to sit in the corner instead of being in the center of the room with the others here.

Weird!

Poorly-designed attempt to indicate the specified cardinal directions don't apply to IN-46.  Or to the information center.

[kphoger]

Why is there an EXIT ONLY sign here?

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2615583,-77.6890472,3a,36.8y,77.69h,92.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh_AfTUjaqfdjbM4D2jJnRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's unnecessary.  I've seen other examples similar to that one.

[roadfro]

Why is there an EXIT ONLY sign here?

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2615583,-77.6890472,3a,36.8y,77.69h,92.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh_AfTUjaqfdjbM4D2jJnRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's unnecessary.  I've seen other examples similar to that one.

It's an added lane that drops at the next exit. "Exit Only" signed over any lane that drops is helpful. especially if the lane drop is a bit of distance from the exit. In this case, the initial lane formation is about 0.2-mile from the exit gore, so it doesn't hurt anything to have the extra warning.

A better question may be why isn't there any indication that the exit has an option lane...

[jeffandnicole]

Why is there an EXIT ONLY sign here?

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2615583,-77.6890472,3a,36.8y,77.69h,92.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh_AfTUjaqfdjbM4D2jJnRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's unnecessary.  I've seen other examples similar to that one.

It's an added lane that drops at the next exit. "Exit Only" signed over any lane that drops is helpful. especially if the lane drop is a bit of distance from the exit. In this case, the initial lane formation is about 0.2-mile from the exit gore, so it doesn't hurt anything to have the extra warning.

A better question may be why isn't there any indication that the exit has an option lane...

Option lanes not marked with an APL aren't supposed to be signed in advance, per the MUTCD.

But, that option lane may be thr reason why the lane is marked with an Exit Only banner.  The exit lane itself is a standard length, and is marked as a decel lane its entire distance.

[SkyPesos]

Option lanes not marked with an APL aren't supposed to be signed in advance, per the MUTCD.

Sounds like a dumb rule. At least Ohio doesn't use the national MUTCD and uses their own state one. There's still signs with dancing arrows for option lanes being produced at this point.

[roadfro]

Why is there an EXIT ONLY sign here?

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2615583,-77.6890472,3a,36.8y,77.69h,92.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh_AfTUjaqfdjbM4D2jJnRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's unnecessary.  I've seen other examples similar to that one.

It's an added lane that drops at the next exit. "Exit Only" signed over any lane that drops is helpful. especially if the lane drop is a bit of distance from the exit. In this case, the initial lane formation is about 0.2-mile from the exit gore, so it doesn't hurt anything to have the extra warning.

A better question may be why isn't there any indication that the exit has an option lane...

Option lanes not marked with an APL aren't supposed to be signed in advance, per the MUTCD.

But, that option lane may be thr reason why the lane is marked with an Exit Only banner.  The exit lane itself is a standard length, and is marked as a decel lane its entire distance.

With 2009 MUTCD, Section 2E.23 indicates there should still be post-mounted lane use signage present between the exit direction sign and the upstream advance guide sign(s), whether it's a true lane drop or an added auxiliary lane just before the exit (the latter being the case with this example); optionally, lane use arrows on the pavement may also be used. That would be sufficient indication of the option lane.

Option lanes not marked with an APL aren't supposed to be signed in advance, per the MUTCD.

Sounds like a dumb rule. At least Ohio doesn't use the national MUTCD and uses their own state one. There's still signs with dancing arrows for option lanes being produced at this point.

Yes, it's a dumb rule–one that I've lamented about on this forum since the 2009 MUTCD was adopted. But dancing arrows isn't really a good answer...

[SkyPesos]

Option lanes not marked with an APL aren't supposed to be signed in advance, per the MUTCD.

Sounds like a dumb rule. At least Ohio doesn't use the national MUTCD and uses their own state one. There's still signs with dancing arrows for option lanes being produced at this point.

Yes, it's a dumb rule–one that I've lamented about on this forum since the 2009 MUTCD was adopted. But dancing arrows isn't really a good answer...

Here's an example installed sometime in 2018. Yes, it would be nice if the dancing arrows weren't umm... dancing (I thought even ODOT got rid of dancing arrows shortly after the 2009 national MUTCD and started doing this disgusting thing because of it, but guess not), though I think it gets the message across that you can either stay on the freeway or exit off from the second to right lane.

[tolbs17]

This sign didn't last very long. And they're only gonna get worse. I was just over here today.

And another one!

But not bad enough to justify needing a replacement.

[vdeane]

This sign didn't last very long. And they're only gonna get worse. I was just over here today.

And another one!

But not bad enough to justify needing a replacement.

You just posted the same sign twice and I'm still not sure what's wrong with it...

[tolbs17]

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0705799,-79.9299738,3a,23.1y,114.22h,113.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_YYtIiknyYGh1P2c2j9-xw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The letter E!

[tolbs17]

This sign didn't last very long. And they're only gonna get worse. I was just over here today.

And another one!

But not bad enough to justify needing a replacement.

You just posted the same sign twice and I'm still not sure what's wrong with it...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8550604,-78.5345083,3a,41.6y,110.59h,102.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so1CVOXA7s3CcgHcbeuPT9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8539771,-78.528611,3a,65.1y,109.07h,114.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAEvyw5EQhti9eU-ion7R6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[SkyPesos]

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0705799,-79.9299738,3a,23.1y,114.22h,113.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_YYtIiknyYGh1P2c2j9-xw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The letter E!

I don't see what's wrong with the letter. Also, I got Asheboro confused with Asheville for a sec. Is there a gantry in NC that have both Asheboro and Asheville posted as a control city, maybe WB I-40 and I-74 at Winston-Salem?

[tolbs17]

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0705799,-79.9299738,3a,23.1y,114.22h,113.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_YYtIiknyYGh1P2c2j9-xw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The letter E!

I don't see what's wrong with the letter. Also, I got Asheboro confused with Asheville for a sec. Is there a gantry in NC that have both Asheboro and Asheville posted as a control city, maybe WB I-40 and I-74 at Winston-Salem?

It's upside-down and no there is not.

[tolbs17]

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7678903,-78.5163993,3a,15y,102.92h,94.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFqI_CmJLVLVA-s--BjenNw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Another sign that lacks an EXIT ONLY plaque.

[Dirt Roads]

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0705799,-79.9299738,3a,23.1y,114.22h,113.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_YYtIiknyYGh1P2c2j9-xw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The letter E!

I don't see what's wrong with the letter. Also, I got Asheboro confused with Asheville for a sec. Is there a gantry in NC that have both Asheboro and Asheville posted as a control city, maybe WB I-40 and I-74 at Winston-Salem?

It's upside-down and no there is not.

Technically, it's worse than upside-down.  It looks like you are looking at the back side of the cardinal "E", which is possibly not reflective (whereas the front side of the "E" is required to be reflective).  Been there hundreds of times and never noticed before.  That whole set of BGS on I-40 west of the Greensboro Outer Loop have always amazed me, since they have been modified many times since first installed and yet still look "factory made" until you picked this one out.  The I-40 shield was on the left side when it first debuted in 2008.  I don't think that they've ever been replaced.

[kphoger]

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7678903,-78.5163993,3a,15y,102.92h,94.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFqI_CmJLVLVA-s--BjenNw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Another sign that lacks an EXIT ONLY plaque.

It's an accel/decel lane, which means that its lacking an EXIT ONLY plaque is by no means surprising, but it bothers me none the less.  I agree that it should have one, or at the very least a dotted lane line.

[JoePCool14]

Petition to rename this thread to "The tolbs17 Thread".

[SkyPesos]

Petition to rename this thread to "The tolbs17 Thread".

Let's see how long this will last

[GaryV]

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7678903,-78.5163993,3a,15y,102.92h,94.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFqI_CmJLVLVA-s--BjenNw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Another sign that lacks an EXIT ONLY plaque.

It's an accel/decel lane, which means that its lacking an EXIT ONLY plaque is by no means surprising, but it bothers me none the less.  I agree that it should have one, or at the very least a dotted lane line.

There are several arrows painted on the pavement, from nearly right where the decel lane starts.  Not that a 55 mph exit needs much decel.

[tolbs17]

When looking these signs, the font looks different on the right sign. I like that better compared to the one on the left.

Here's the older sign which I think they left a space to say "Garner" but it has been removed, unfornately. I'm not a big fan of that to be honest. They did the same over here as well. Compare the years and see the difference.

[tolbs17]

WTF is wrong with these signs?!

[Rothman]

WTF is wrong with these signs?!

Nothing.

[tolbs17]

WTF is wrong with these signs?!

Nothing.

I was thinking the signs are too small or the text is too big and it looks kinda cartoonish looking.