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Author Topic: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road  (Read 1217 times)

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Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« on: September 20, 2021, 09:53:09 AM »

I was wondering why K-14 which never used to enter Hutchinson, now took over former K-11 south of South Hutchinson to US 54/ 400, while the original alignment between Arlington and Nickerson is now a county maintained roadway and south of K-61 itís is K-17 now.
https://goo.gl/maps/LnBPEXN6vAnEWt8Z7
Google still has it shown along Sego Road though itís been removed many years ago
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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2021, 10:59:42 PM »

Kansas will often build new roads in exchange for the country taking over maintenance of other roads. In this case, what used to be K-14 was turned over to the counties when the K-96 bypass of Hutchinson was constructed. It's likely there will be some more turnover once the planned Nickerson-Sterling bypass is constructed.

In order to keep K-14 continuous, K-14 was moved to take over K-17. And there was apparently still a need to connect Kingman to Arlington in KDOT's mind, so the old K-14 was renumbered to K-11.

I didn't feel the realignment of K-14 was necessary and if you're going to go to Lyons via marked routes, you're going a long way out of the way now. But that's how KDOT does a lot of things, in great part because if the mileage limit it has. In order to construct new road, it frequently has to surrender old road in order to stay under the limit.
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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2021, 06:33:07 PM »

Kansas will often build new roads in exchange for the country taking over maintenance of other roads. In this case, what used to be K-14 was turned over to the counties when the K-96 bypass of Hutchinson was constructed.

The Sego Road section of K-14 was turned back in consideration for the 4-lane K-61 between Hutchinson and McPherson. The K-96 bypass of Hutchinson dates back to 2002.

It's likely there will be some more turnover once the planned Nickerson-Sterling bypass is constructed.

I havenít heard of any consideration for turning back any additional highways (other than the current K-14/K-96 alignment)

In order to keep K-14 continuous, K-14 was moved to take over K-17. And there was apparently still a need to connect Kingman to Arlington in KDOT's mind, so the old K-14 was renumbered to K-11.

Donít forget that KDOT initially re-routed K-14 over K-61


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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2021, 04:16:31 PM »

2013 thread on K-14 turnback and related numbering changes

Sego Road still has a 65 limit, which is allowed for county highways under Kansas law despite 55 being the default limit for county roads.  (The one specific example I know of that is posted 65 without ever having been on the state highway system is in Kearny County.)
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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2021, 12:14:35 AM »

As far as distance, the county road is the shortest way between Kingman and Lyons. 

Yes look at Lawrence with Sixth Street West of US 59 and east of K-10 being turned over to the city now making US 40 a longer alignment in the city.  So yes I see the KDOT way is not the best way.
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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2021, 02:46:14 PM »

KS likes to build new alignments and alienate the towns or areas that the old alignment heretofore travelled.
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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2021, 03:35:58 AM »

KS likes to build new alignments and alienate the towns or areas that the old alignment heretofore travelled.

Better that than force drivers to go through slow small towns with traffic lights and speed traps. It also keeps huge trucks out of town.
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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2021, 07:25:06 AM »

As far as distance, the county road is the shortest way between Kingman and Lyons. 

Yes look at Lawrence with Sixth Street West of US 59 and east of K-10 being turned over to the city now making US 40 a longer alignment in the city.  So yes I see the KDOT way is not the best way.

KDOT can quite easily solve that one by giving the remaining section of US40 between K-4 and K-10 to Douglas and Shawnee Counties, and then rerouting US40 onto I-70/Kansas Turnpike the rest of the way to Kansas City. And before you all get into "Wait, what about the need for a free US highway alternative to the Turnpike?", US24, US56, even I-35 to Emporia are all available to fill that duty.
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Re: Why was K-14 removed from Sego Road
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2021, 11:00:33 AM »

KDOT can quite easily solve that one by giving the remaining section of US40 between K-4 and K-10 to Douglas and Shawnee Counties, and then rerouting US40 onto I-70/Kansas Turnpike the rest of the way to Kansas City. And before you all get into "Wait, what about the need for a free US highway alternative to the Turnpike?", US24, US56, even I-35 to Emporia are all available to fill that duty.
US 64 & 412 in OK say hi.

Another option that keeps US40 free is to send it up US75 & overlap US24.
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