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Post your intersections that make you question the sanity of the people who designed and approved them here. I'm looking mostly for regular roads here, and not freeways or expressways, unless they look in some way like regular roads.

For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Foszfoy.jpg&hash=84907853aee3fe7afaec1ea792de3566f5f455bc)
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

Does the fishook intersection in Dundee, OR count? Of so, I can easily find a picture and put it up.

New Jersey has not only jughandles but "flat" at-grade cloverleaf intersections, as in Toms River: https://goo.gl/maps/pw6PH3EfC7n

A little more modern, nestled in the I-95 / NJ 29 interchange, is a flattened 3-way semidirectional intersection, done with channeling: https://goo.gl/maps/kLFH6CDJJWt

In Meriden, CT, there's a short block of Colony St that is 3-way (north, south, and north again): https://goo.gl/maps/rTBCXkC7HN22

In the OP's photo example, it's clear to me that the main traffic stream goes from left to up and vice versa, so it makes sense that they designed the intersection as such.  They probably didn't revise it into a "typical" T-intersection where the road from the right becomes the side street because of the driveways at the bottom.

A lot of Americans would probably find the Magic Roundabout to be insane, and no doubt if this were tried in the USA it would be a disaster. It worked great the times I drove through it, though.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kafx_GGHqVg/maxresdefault.jpg)

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Foszfoy.jpg&hash=84907853aee3fe7afaec1ea792de3566f5f455bc)
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

What looks like an inner right turn lane for SB to WB I think is intended for traffic turning NB from EB.  The white painted island is what makes it look screwed up.  It should have yellow paint to indicate it is separating directions of travel.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/af840f73e779feb9e59efa26c9ea2703.jpg)

I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


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Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
not freeways or expressways, unless they look in some way like regular roads.

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
I-459

:pan:

My two least favorite intersections in MSP, both in St. Paul:

MN 5 comes in from the SW and then turns east on Minnehaha Avenue: https://www.google.com/maps/place/St+Paul,+MN/@44.9630033,-93.0635643,67m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x52b2d4cee4e9379f:0xc87291d23fda2e29!8m2!3d44.9537029!4d-93.0899578

MN 5/MN 51 junction: https://www.google.com/maps/place/St+Paul,+MN/@44.9125563,-93.1496185,141m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x52b2d4cee4e9379f:0xc87291d23fda2e29!8m2!3d44.9537029!4d-93.0899578

KELLEY SQUARE IN WORCESTER, MA.

The thread can end here.

Quote from: Rothman on January 11, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
The thread can end here.

bet not

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394MN 5/MN 51 junction: https://www.google.com/maps/place/St+Paul,+MN/@44.9125563,-93.1496185,141m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x52b2d4cee4e9379f:0xc87291d23fda2e29!8m2!3d44.9537029!4d-93.0899578

City's looking into relocating Lexington away from this intersection to tie into Elway.  That'd make it a 4-leg or possibly even a 3-leg if Montreal Ave to the east is closed at West 7th.

^ That link shows just St Paul, not the specific location.

Quote from: webny99 on January 11, 2018, 09:15:08 PM
^ That link shows just St Paul, not the specific location.

To me, it shows the intersection itself.

Quote from: 1 on January 11, 2018, 09:17:41 PM

Quote from: webny99 on January 11, 2018, 09:15:08 PM
^ That link shows just St Paul, not the specific location.

To me, it shows the intersection itself.

Strange. I did find it though.

Quote from: webny99 on January 11, 2018, 09:22:55 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 11, 2018, 09:17:41 PM

Quote from: webny99 on January 11, 2018, 09:15:08 PM
^ That link shows just St Paul, not the specific location.

To me, it shows the intersection itself.

Strange. I did find it though.

It works on my laptop, but not on my tablet :hmmm:

Quote from: 7/8 on January 11, 2018, 09:38:54 PM

Quote from: webny99 on January 11, 2018, 09:22:55 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 11, 2018, 09:17:41 PM

Quote from: webny99 on January 11, 2018, 09:15:08 PM
^ That link shows just St Paul, not the specific location.

To me, it shows the intersection itself.

Strange. I did find it though.

It works on my laptop, but not on my tablet :hmmm:

I'm using a phone - I notice in "Suggestions and Questions" there is a sticky-tacked thread started by vtk that summarizes this problem. It seems to only happen on mobile devices. I would link to the thread, but,

QuoteI'm using a phone

:-D

Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/af840f73e779feb9e59efa26c9ea2703.jpg)

I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


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Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Not at all strange.

Quote from: NE2 on January 11, 2018, 10:39:44 PM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Not at all strange.

Seems pointless to have a T intersection only to loop it back across with an overpass. The overpass is nothing but an added expense. Just put the intersection where the overpass is at and call it a day.

Quote from: Road Hog on January 12, 2018, 12:15:06 AM

Quote from: NE2 on January 11, 2018, 10:39:44 PM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Not at all strange.

Seems pointless to have a T intersection only to loop it back across with an overpass. The overpass is nothing but an added expense. Just put the intersection where the overpass is at and call it a day.

Usually that design is because there is a train track too close to the intersection, like in that photo. The highway with the overpass can't get down from the bridge over the train track in time for the intersection, so it keeps going and loops around.

Quote from: roadguy2 on January 12, 2018, 12:33:15 AM

Quote from: Road Hog on January 12, 2018, 12:15:06 AM

Quote from: NE2 on January 11, 2018, 10:39:44 PM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Not at all strange.

Seems pointless to have a T intersection only to loop it back across with an overpass. The overpass is nothing but an added expense. Just put the intersection where the overpass is at and call it a day.

Usually that design is because there is a train track too close to the intersection, like in that photo. The highway with the overpass can't get down from the bridge over the train track in time for the intersection, so it keeps going and loops around.

Can concur with that, given this, https://www.google.com/maps/place/Shelburne,+MA+01370/@42.617474,-72.7444398,17.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e1283fded890c1:0xaca337d5ddb5f35c!8m2!3d42.5898074!4d-72.6884244, and https://www.google.com/maps/place/Shelburne,+MA+01370/@43.1874207,-72.4389383,16.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e1283fded890c1:0xaca337d5ddb5f35c!8m2!3d42.5898074!4d-72.6884244

Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D

Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D

God created Google Maps for a reason.

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

This clusterfuck that I used to drive through all the time in Goldsboro, NC. So many insurance claims were filed here. So many...

https://goo.gl/maps/EWgnVfEV6c42 (https://goo.gl/maps/EWgnVfEV6c42)

That's just a normal intersection in New England. :D

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:59:49 AM

Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D

God created Google Maps for a reason.

Hey, can't say I didn't give you a chance to post a link :D I did look it up, though.

Marquette & Jones (https://goo.gl/maps/qD5yNs55Aaw), Joliet, IL.  Only saving grace is that it is on low-volume streets.
Arnold, Oak, & Division (https://goo.gl/maps/LEuTKGrWX9w), Plainfield, IL.
Niles Center & Skokie (https://goo.gl/maps/Q3vpcrwbUPx), Skokie, IL.

How about the 12-exit roundabout in Paris? European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

Has anyone been through that 12-exit roundabout?

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 11, 2018, 10:26:27 PM

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/af840f73e779feb9e59efa26c9ea2703.jpg)

I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


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Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

It's probably not the best exit to be taken by out of towner's for sure.


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I87/I90 in New York is pretty insane to me https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6916951,-73.8384111,14.5z

Quote from: Brandon on January 12, 2018, 12:33:12 PM
Marquette & Jones (https://goo.gl/maps/qD5yNs55Aaw), Joliet, IL.  Only saving grace is that it is on low-volume streets.
Arnold, Oak, & Division (https://goo.gl/maps/LEuTKGrWX9w), Plainfield, IL.
Niles Center & Skokie (https://goo.gl/maps/Q3vpcrwbUPx), Skokie, IL.

The first two look pretty normal to me.  The first one, in fact, reminds me of this one in Whetaon (https://goo.gl/maps/h6J7GuvMzwT2).

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Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
How about the 12-exit roundabout in Paris? European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

Has anyone been through that 12-exit roundabout?

I've been there (https://goo.gl/maps/UC576WPdr5t) on foot, but not by car.

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 12, 2018, 12:48:46 PM

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 11, 2018, 10:26:27 PM

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/af840f73e779feb9e59efa26c9ea2703.jpg)

I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


iPhone

Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

It's probably not the best exit to be taken by out of towner's for sure.


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I have never liked Cracker Barrel's locations. It seems like they do this kind of thing with every location. Get off the Interstate, turn, make another turn, and sometimes even more turns to get to the store.

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 02:30:29 PM

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 12, 2018, 12:48:46 PM

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 11, 2018, 10:26:27 PM

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/af840f73e779feb9e59efa26c9ea2703.jpg)

I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


iPhone

Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

It's probably not the best exit to be taken by out of towner's for sure.


iPhone

I have never liked Cracker Barrel's locations. It seems like they do this kind of thing with every location. Get off the Interstate, turn, make another turn, and sometimes even more turns to get to the store.

The ones in Tewksbury MA and Londonderry NH don't require extra turns, and those are the two I am familiar with.

Side note: When you quote a post with an image, especially one that's 1334 pixels tall, you should reduce its size (make sure it's proportional to the original). Reducing it to ⅒ like I did isn't required, but it should be reduced at least some.

I present: Hollywood, Portland, Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5339244,-122.6229641,18z/data=!3m1!1e3
You have Sandy Blvd, Broadway, Halsey St, 37th Ave, 39th Ave (Cesar Chavez Blvd), 42nd Ave, 43rd Ave*, and I-84/US 30 all converging, with Hancock St, and Tillamook St, and number of side streets thrown in.

The 'through' movements are: Broadway-Halsey (EB: Broadway-37th-Halsey; WB: Halsey-39th-Broadway), 39th-42nd (NB: 39th-Sandy-Broadway-42nd or 39th-Hancock-42nd or 39th-Tillamook-42nd; SB: 42nd-Halsey-39th); Sandy; the freeway.

37th is southbound only from Broadway to Sandy; Halsey is eastbound only from Sandy to 39th (with a slipramp under 39th for through traffic); 39th is northbound only from Halsey to Hancock. Broadway is eastbound only from 39th to 42nd, but westbound only from 39th to 38th (and it was recently converted from westbound only to two-way from 38th to 37th!).

*43rd is the WB offramp from the freeway, and is even signed as 43rd Ave. Even better, and not really related to this mess, it's the first westbound exit after I-205, and the first surface exit after 181st Ave!

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:59:49 AM

Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D

God created Google Maps for a reason.

And Google Maps gave the ability to share a location for a reason.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2018, 02:38:03 PM

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:59:49 AM

Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D

God created Google Maps for a reason.

And Google Maps gave the ability to share a location for a reason.

Just look it up.

Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

[citation needed]

Quote from: SectorZ on January 12, 2018, 04:38:29 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

[common knowledge]

FTFY

Quote from: kphoger on January 12, 2018, 04:47:18 PM

Quote from: SectorZ on January 12, 2018, 04:38:29 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

[common knowledge]

FTFY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Looks like depending on the stats you want to believe, we're better. Also, they're better. Again, dependent on what stats you want to believe.

(My comparison is based on Europe the continent as a whole and the US as a country).

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 12, 2018, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.

Similar intersection in Nogales, Arizona at 82 and Grand Ave:

https://goo.gl/maps/UrVChhSeo782

Due to terrain and adjacent railroad.

Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 11, 2018, 11:00:56 AM

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
http://i65.tinypic.com/oszfoy.jpg
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

What looks like an inner right turn lane for SB to WB I think is intended for traffic turning NB from EB.  The white painted island is what makes it look screwed up.  It should have yellow paint to indicate it is separating directions of travel.

I think it has to be white. It's on the right edge of all the lanes that pass by it.

Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2018, 05:42:30 PM

Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 11, 2018, 11:00:56 AM

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
http://i65.tinypic.com/oszfoy.jpg
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

What looks like an inner right turn lane for SB to WB I think is intended for traffic turning NB from EB.  The white painted island is what makes it look screwed up.  It should have yellow paint to indicate it is separating directions of travel.

I think it has to be white. It's on the right edge of all the lanes that pass by it.

Not the triangle. The crescent to the left.

Quote from: NE2 on January 12, 2018, 05:46:26 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2018, 05:42:30 PM

Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 11, 2018, 11:00:56 AM

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
http://i65.tinypic.com/oszfoy.jpg
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

What looks like an inner right turn lane for SB to WB I think is intended for traffic turning NB from EB.  The white painted island is what makes it look screwed up.  It should have yellow paint to indicate it is separating directions of travel.

I think it has to be white. It's on the right edge of all the lanes that pass by it.

Not the triangle. The crescent to the left.

Oh, duh. Saw "island"...immediately assumed the triangle in the middle. Definitely not sure why the painted "crescent" is white.

EDIT: Looks like it's white because it starts as an island between two through lanes, but then becomes an island between two opposing lanes. But they didn't feel like making half the island half white, half yellow.

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 12, 2018, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.

I'm not sure how often you venture up into Washington, but there's a very similar interchange (https://goo.gl/ppGrHq) at WA-522's terminus at US-2 in Monroe (only difference being the inclusion of an extra slip ramp for NB-to-EB). Built this way due to a railway paralleling US-2 (same reason the interchange you posted is built the way it is).

(https://i.imgur.com/yH8v5O2.png)

Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2018, 06:33:33 PM
I'm not sure how often you venture up into Washington, but there's a very similar interchange (https://goo.gl/ppGrHq) at WA-522's terminus at US-2 in Monroe (only difference being the inclusion of an extra slip ramp for NB-to-EB. Built this way due to a railway paralleling US-2 (same reason the interchange you posted is built the way it is).

(https://i.imgur.com/yH8v5O2.png)

That's somewhat reminiscent of the end of GA 20 at US 19/41 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3745844,-84.2960582,1775m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en), except that it involves an extra turn for GA 20 and I'm pretty sure the railroad is far enough away that an overpass wasn't strictly required. (I don't think there are any plans to extend GA 20, though the intersection design does sort of suggest otherwise.)

This eight-way intersection in Detroit: https://goo.gl/maps/hgdQ7zQGKc22 (Tireman is the only road remotely resembling a major road, and one of the legs was cut off at one point, but the curb markings are still there)

A six-way intersection not far from the eight-way one: https://goo.gl/maps/pU1xV2rFDxN2 (Both Joy and Wyoming are major streets, and the NE-SW street (Esper St) ALSO runs NE-SW through the aforementioned eight-way intersection)

Quote from: ftballfan on January 12, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
This eight-way intersection in Detroit: https://goo.gl/maps/hgdQ7zQGKc22 (Tireman is the only road remotely resembling a major road, and one of the legs was cut off at one point, but the curb markings are still there)

A six-way intersection not far from the eight-way one: https://goo.gl/maps/pU1xV2rFDxN2 (Both Joy and Wyoming are major streets, and the NE-SW street (Esper St) ALSO runs NE-SW through the aforementioned eight-way intersection)

That is preeety scary.

Quote from: ftballfan on January 12, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
This eight-way intersection in Detroit: https://goo.gl/maps/hgdQ7zQGKc22 (Tireman is the only road remotely resembling a major road, and one of the legs was cut off at one point, but the curb markings are still there)

A six-way intersection not far from the eight-way one: https://goo.gl/maps/pU1xV2rFDxN2 (Both Joy and Wyoming are major streets, and the NE-SW street (Esper St) ALSO runs NE-SW through the aforementioned eight-way intersection)

Lol I lived not too far from there for awhile on Steel just south of Chicago I never could understand the concept there. Meyers that doesn't actually intersect all those streets is fairly busy and Miller is fairly busy going all the way to Fort. Tireman is probably the busiest of those streets since it runs halfway between Warren and Joy Road.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

Yeah me neither. I haven't found anything else like that on Google Maps.

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:50:16 PM

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

Yeah me neither. I haven't found anything else like that on Google Maps.

I've been all over and can't think of a single one, that makes this one insane.

This used to be a six-way intersection in west Atlanta, since reduced to five-way:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8211257,-84.4547725,236m/data=!3m1!1e3

Marietta Blvd is old US 41 back before Cobb Parkway was built.

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:53:44 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:50:16 PM

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

Yeah me neither. I haven't found anything else like that on Google Maps.

I've been all over and can't think of a single one, that makes this one insane.

RI 246.

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

Two things.  First, the "loop" on the ramp has the arrow in the wrong direction.  Second, don't trust everything you see on Google Maps**.

** - In this specific case, "297" is a county road, not a state highway.

Kelley Square
Worcester, MA

https://goo.gl/maps/LXg3GDrdXwH2

The Woodlands, TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.155649,-95.4734911,577m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
These are two streets owned by the county. No major expressway

Woodlands Pkwy seems like it is trying but failing at expressway status.

Quote from: Perfxion on January 13, 2018, 01:50:38 PM
The Woodlands, TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.155649,-95.4734911,577m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
These are two streets owned by the county. No major expressway

I must be missing something. That just looks like a standard diamond interchange with a RIRO on one ramp.

Quote from: jakeroot on January 13, 2018, 10:11:13 PM

Quote from: Perfxion on January 13, 2018, 01:50:38 PM
The Woodlands, TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.155649,-95.4734911,577m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
These are two streets owned by the county. No major expressway

I must be missing something. That just looks like a standard diamond interchange with a RIRO on one ramp.

I am with you on that one.

Quote from: Rothman on January 13, 2018, 11:45:56 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on January 13, 2018, 10:11:13 PM

Quote from: Perfxion on January 13, 2018, 01:50:38 PM
The Woodlands, TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.155649,-95.4734911,577m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
These are two streets owned by the county. No major expressway

I must be missing something. That just looks like a standard diamond interchange with a RIRO on one ramp.

I am with you on that one.

I certainly don't see RIROs on slip ramps very often, but they're far from rare, and certainly wouldn't quality as "insane". Not in my opinion, at least.

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

Thanks for sharing.  You'll see that "splitting" of opposite directions where frontage roads and ramps intersect.  The idea is to prevent people from turning the wrong way down a ramp (and have a high speed head-on crash).  Here's a drawing from TxDOT (see the bottom intersection):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fonlinemanuals.txdot.gov%2Ftxdotmanuals%2Frdw%2Fimages%2F3-34us.png&hash=d52af050acc52dd896512c3dc9c4a7a9ef6e4fb5)

Quote from: johndoe on January 14, 2018, 10:35:06 AM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

Thanks for sharing.  You'll see that "splitting" of opposite directions where frontage roads and ramps intersect.  The idea is to prevent people from turning the wrong way down a ramp (and have a high speed head-on crash).  Here's a drawing from TxDOT (see the bottom intersection):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fonlinemanuals.txdot.gov%2Ftxdotmanuals%2Frdw%2Fimages%2F3-34us.png&hash=d52af050acc52dd896512c3dc9c4a7a9ef6e4fb5)

Why not have a left-turn lane?

:banghead:

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:50:16 PM

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

Yeah me neither. I haven't found anything else like that on Google Maps.

I am pretty sure that CASR-244 ends at an exit ramp from I-80 near Sacramento, but this might be a "temporary" (as in "not the way the engineers planned it, but has been that way for 30 years and we know of no current plans to change it") situation. My memory is fuzzy, but CASR-90 may do this also.

Maybe not "insane" but at least complex and interesting:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7511466,-97.3613348,17z

Quote from: US 81 on January 14, 2018, 01:34:50 PM
Maybe not "insane" but at least complex and interesting:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7511466,-97.3613348,17z

Wow, thats cool!

Breezewood.

In this part of the world I nominate this intersection (https://www.google.es/maps/@41.8332377,-1.5287772,3a,75y,259.08h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGG_hcV3l2I2j4KuGKmkW3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). The stop sign says it all.

Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 14, 2018, 06:18:47 PM
In this part of the world I nominate this intersection (https://www.google.es/maps/@41.8332377,-1.5287772,3a,75y,259.08h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGG_hcV3l2I2j4KuGKmkW3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). The stop sign says it all.

Nothing's more confusing than a three-way intersection with a 'proceed', stop, and yield for each of the approaches. I would have no idea what to do there. My gut says the yield sign has 2nd priority, with the stop sign third in line.

Quote from: roadiejay on January 12, 2018, 05:22:16 PM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 12, 2018, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.

Similar intersection in Nogales, Arizona at 82 and Grand Ave:

https://goo.gl/maps/UrVChhSeo782

Due to terrain and adjacent railroad.

Here's another, also to clear a parallel railroad (Butler, IN, US-6 at CR 61).

https://goo.gl/maps/XTpHWvCkVpq

Quote from: Brandon on January 12, 2018, 12:33:12 PM
Arnold, Oak, & Division (https://goo.gl/maps/LEuTKGrWX9w), Plainfield, IL.

When did they get rid of the Eternal Flame in the little park on the triangle?

Quote from: catch22 on January 15, 2018, 10:26:05 AM

Quote from: roadiejay on January 12, 2018, 05:22:16 PM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 12, 2018, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.

Similar intersection in Nogales, Arizona at 82 and Grand Ave:

https://goo.gl/maps/UrVChhSeo782

Due to terrain and adjacent railroad.

Here's another, also to clear a parallel railroad (Butler, IN, US-6 at CR 61).

https://goo.gl/maps/XTpHWvCkVpq

And another, built basically to service a casino that was wedged in between the tracks and Lake Michigan, in Hammond, IN

https://goo.gl/maps/zzW91gxVnV22

When the built US 130 thru NJ, and especially in Camden County, they simply built the road without any care of how the intersecting streets would mesh with it.  In this example, kinda like another one pictured above, there are multiple side streets that meet US 130 at varying angles.  https://goo.gl/maps/PXFpsb43LhE2  This occurs multiple times.

Another one was truly first in the nation, although it's been duplicated on a few occasions, almost each time claiming it's first in the nation: https://goo.gl/maps/BaTNnxjvmF62  Left turning traffic snakes thru opposing traffic (I forget the exact name right now given to this style intersection). 

This final one here isn't truly insane...it's just unusual, even for NJ standards: https://goo.gl/maps/1ZjLGa5kuin  Traffic on 130 South (going from the top of the screen to the bottom) can make a left turn onto Market Street...OR...use the jughandle to make the left turn onto Market Street!  This is mostly due to the off-ramp from I-76 East to US 130 South, and they don't want traffic forced to cross 3 lanes either way.  However, if you want to make a right onto Market Street, US 130 South traffic does have to merge over 2 lanes (and across a solid white line) to do so.  There is a left-sided U-turn available just slightly south of this intersection, which would allow traffic to continue thru this intersection on 130 South, U-turn onto 130 North, then left on Market to complete that right turn via 3 lefts (sorta like the 141 North to 95 North left to left entry in Delaware) but it's not signed to do that.  Maybe it was decades ago though, which would kinda make sense.

Edited due to bad GSV link.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
When the built US 130 thru NJ, and especially in Camden County, they simply built the road without any care of how the intersecting streets would mesh with it.  In this example, kinda like another one pictured above, there are multiple side streets that meet US 130 at varying angles.  https://goo.gl/maps/PXFpsb43LhE2  This occurs multiple times.

Another one was truly first in the nation, although it's been duplicated on a few occasions, almost each time claiming it's first in the nation: https://goo.gl/maps/PXFpsb43LhE2  Left turning traffic snakes thru opposing traffic (I forget the exact name right now given to this style intersection). 

Did you mean to post the same link twice?

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

Florida SR100 at the junction with US 1 in Bunnell.. the NW junction to be precise.. there are a few of these in FL and like another be posted wrote... It's when railroad is adjacent to roadway

Z981

Quote from: Shoppingforfood on January 14, 2018, 10:56:15 AM

Quote from: johndoe on January 14, 2018, 10:35:06 AM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

Thanks for sharing.  You'll see that "splitting" of opposite directions where frontage roads and ramps intersect.  The idea is to prevent people from turning the wrong way down a ramp (and have a high speed head-on crash).  Here's a drawing from TxDOT (see the bottom intersection):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fonlinemanuals.txdot.gov%2Ftxdotmanuals%2Frdw%2Fimages%2F3-34us.png&hash=d52af050acc52dd896512c3dc9c4a7a9ef6e4fb5)

Why not have a left-turn lane?

Quote from: NE2 on January 14, 2018, 11:00:03 AM
:banghead:

Amen.   :banghead:

In a sense, it is a left-turn lane.  With no other lane.

Quote from: inkyatari on January 15, 2018, 11:42:23 AM

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
When the built US 130 thru NJ, and especially in Camden County, they simply built the road without any care of how the intersecting streets would mesh with it.  In this example, kinda like another one pictured above, there are multiple side streets that meet US 130 at varying angles.  https://goo.gl/maps/PXFpsb43LhE2  This occurs multiple times.

Another one was truly first in the nation, although it's been duplicated on a few occasions, almost each time claiming it's first in the nation: https://goo.gl/maps/PXFpsb43LhE2  Left turning traffic snakes thru opposing traffic (I forget the exact name right now given to this style intersection). 

Did you mean to post the same link twice?

Thanks - here's the correct link to the 130/168 intersection that weaves the left turns thru opposing traffic: https://goo.gl/maps/BaTNnxjvmF62

I'll modify my original post as well.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2018, 04:38:33 PM

Quote from: inkyatari on January 15, 2018, 11:42:23 AM

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
When the built US 130 thru NJ, and especially in Camden County, they simply built the road without any care of how the intersecting streets would mesh with it.  In this example, kinda like another one pictured above, there are multiple side streets that meet US 130 at varying angles.  https://goo.gl/maps/PXFpsb43LhE2  This occurs multiple times.

Another one was truly first in the nation, although it's been duplicated on a few occasions, almost each time claiming it's first in the nation: https://goo.gl/maps/PXFpsb43LhE2  Left turning traffic snakes thru opposing traffic (I forget the exact name right now given to this style intersection). 

Did you mean to post the same link twice?

Thanks - here's the correct link to the 130/168 intersection that weaves the left turns thru opposing traffic: https://goo.gl/maps/BaTNnxjvmF62

I'll modify my original post as well.

Of all the strange roads in NJ (and there are a lot), US 130 is one of the strangest. There's that pseudo-continuous flow intersection at NJ 168, those intersections that have become pseudo-circles for the side streets (such as this (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9373275,-75.0756809,210m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)), the weird grade separations (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9491436,-75.0660384,420m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en), the "circle" in Cranbury (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9491436,-75.0660384,420m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en), the list goes on. Plus, the section north of NJ 33 is one of the few divided highways in NJ that allows left turns without jughandles.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
Another one was truly first in the nation, although it's been duplicated on a few occasions, almost each time claiming it's first in the nation: https://goo.gl/maps/BaTNnxjvmF62  Left turning traffic snakes thru opposing traffic (I forget the exact name right now given to this style intersection). 

It looks similar to a parallel-flow intersection (http://gfparsons.com/pfi/), but I'm not certain it's exactly the same beast.

All things considered, this is probably one of Seattle's most bizarre (not really insane) intersections: https://goo.gl/sDhRS1

Queen Anne's 7-way stop-controlled intersection (6-way stop). No idea how it ended up like this, but drivers are so confused about who arrived first, they usually fail to notice pedestrians and cyclists (so I've heard).

No idea if there's any improvements in the works, but trimming back some of the greenery would be a nice start. The angle of the intersection makes it hard to see other cars.

(https://i.imgur.com/rTR6Ffg.png)

Quote from: jakeroot on January 15, 2018, 07:39:27 PM
All things considered, this is probably one of Seattle's most bizarre (not really insane) intersections: https://goo.gl/sDhRS1

Queen Anne's 7-way stop-controlled intersection. No idea how it ended up like this, but drivers are so confused about who arrived first, they usually fail to notice pedestrians and cyclists (so I've heard).

No idea if there's any improvements in the works, but trimming back some of the greenery would be a nice start.

The absolute f@ck? No, that's insane. One of those is already an exit only and you could realistically make one more exit only, but that still leaves 5 entrances.

Quote from: cl94 on January 15, 2018, 07:51:54 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on January 15, 2018, 07:39:27 PM
All things considered, this is probably one of Seattle's most bizarre (not really insane) intersections: https://goo.gl/sDhRS1

Queen Anne's 7-way stop-controlled intersection. No idea how it ended up like this, but drivers are so confused about who arrived first, they usually fail to notice pedestrians and cyclists (so I've heard).

No idea if there's any improvements in the works, but trimming back some of the greenery would be a nice start.

The absolute f@ck? No, that's insane. One of those is already an exit only and you could realistically make one more exit only, but that still leaves 5 entrances.

Very well, I will consider it insane.

Forgot that Raye Street was one-way. Swear it had a stop-sign at one point. I have adjusted the OP.

Quote from: jwolfer on January 15, 2018, 12:33:58 PM
Florida SR100 at the junction with US 1 in Bunnell.. the NW junction to be precise.. there are a few of these in FL and like another be posted wrote... It's when railroad is adjacent to roadway.

But there's no railroad adjacent to US 1 at Virginia Secondary Route 8900 (Centerport Parkway). Just a steep hill for US 1 and a short approach between there and I-95.

Quote from: johndoe on January 14, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
Thanks for sharing.  You'll see that "splitting" of opposite directions where frontage roads and ramps intersect.  The idea is to prevent people from turning the wrong way down a ramp (and have a high speed head-on crash).  Here's a drawing from TxDOT (see the bottom intersection):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fonlinemanuals.txdot.gov%2Ftxdotmanuals%2Frdw%2Fimages%2F3-34us.png&hash=d52af050acc52dd896512c3dc9c4a7a9ef6e4fb5)

You've got plenty of these along I-95 in North Carolina too... and from what I've seen on Google Street View in the Rockies and Great Plains too.

I always thought this one on UCF's campus was a bit crazy:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6034852,-81.1956179,3a,78.2y,310.07h,84.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbdrDKCskifqjbsO4qzsIjw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DbdrDKCskifqjbsO4qzsIjw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D219.95671%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

When they initially installed it, it entirely relied on the no right turn blankout sign to prevent vehicles from turning into the vehicles as oncoming traffic. They added a permanent no turn on red sign at that corner as well, which helped a little bit. I also wish they would give the traffic exiting the garage a green whenever the crossroad doesn't have it, since that causes huge backups into the garage being so close to it.

Quote from: kphoger on January 15, 2018, 04:59:42 PM

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
Another one was truly first in the nation, although it's been duplicated on a few occasions, almost each time claiming it's first in the nation: https://goo.gl/maps/BaTNnxjvmF62  Left turning traffic snakes thru opposing traffic (I forget the exact name right now given to this style intersection). 

It looks similar to a parallel-flow intersection (http://gfparsons.com/pfi/), but I'm not certain it's exactly the same beast.

You're right, that is (partial) "PFI".  According to historicaerials.com this intersection has been in place since at least 1956.  The PFI was patented in 2006.  I'm no lawyer but I don't understand how you can patent something that's been in place 50 years before you "invented" it.

Quote from: johndoe on January 15, 2018, 09:15:08 PM

Quote from: kphoger on January 15, 2018, 04:59:42 PM

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
Another one was truly first in the nation, although it's been duplicated on a few occasions, almost each time claiming it's first in the nation: https://goo.gl/maps/BaTNnxjvmF62  Left turning traffic snakes thru opposing traffic (I forget the exact name right now given to this style intersection). 

It looks similar to a parallel-flow intersection (http://gfparsons.com/pfi/), but I'm not certain it's exactly the same beast.

You're right, that is (partial) "PFI".  According to historicaerials.com this intersection has been in place since at least 1956.  The PFI was patented in 2006.  I'm no lawyer but I don't understand how you can patent something that's been in place 50 years before you "invented" it.

Eh, there's a lot of intersections out there...hard to keep a file on all of them.

That said, here's a similar one in Baton Rouge (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3974109,-91.0531842,490m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en) (Siegen Lane, Airline Highway, Jefferson Highway) with that kind of PFI set up.

This five-way stop intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6058564,-93.7002819,181m/data=!3m1!1e3) is pretty tame compared to many of them ITT, but it's the most fitting example I can think of locally here in Des Moines. Traffic on Clark St can't even see anyone at the north leg of 60th St. The only positive of this is that it's a low-speed residential intersection.

More interesting might be the intersection of Cummins Pkwy and University Ave (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6003607,-93.7018152,116m/data=!3m1!1e3) south of the above one. North of University, Cummins is a standard divided parkway with a pair of one-ways. South of University, Cummins becomes a pair of two-way streets, and the only way you can really tell this is by the subtle fact that the south side of the intersection has two stop signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6003087,-93.7018366,3a,75y,42.86h,79.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sm_4aVMRHBEhKE14QBpgHOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), while the north side has only one.

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

There are plenty, though the ones I can think of are all freeways. NJ 24 westbound terminus is I-287 and eastbound terminus is I-78. PA 63's eastern terminus is I-95.

Quote from: cl94 on January 15, 2018, 04:58:55 PM
Plus, the section north of NJ 33 is one of the few divided highways in NJ that allows left turns without jughandles.

There are plenty of left turns on NJ divided highways interspersed with jughandles, sometimes even at the same intersection like here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8747551,-74.9222296,232m/data=!3m1!1e3
73 North has a left turn onto Evesham Road, while 73 South uses a jughandle.

Quote from: bzakharin on January 16, 2018, 03:40:38 PM

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on January 12, 2018, 11:44:22 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

There are plenty, though the ones I can think of are all freeways. NJ 24 westbound terminus is I-287 and eastbound terminus is I-78. PA 63's eastern terminus is I-95.

Quote from: cl94 on January 15, 2018, 04:58:55 PM
Plus, the section north of NJ 33 is one of the few divided highways in NJ that allows left turns without jughandles.

There are plenty of left turns on NJ divided highways interspersed with jughandles, sometimes even at the same intersection like here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8747551,-74.9222296,232m/data=!3m1!1e3
73 North has a left turn onto Evesham Road, while 73 South uses a jughandle.

I think you missed it.  It's not that a state highway ends at an Interstate highway, but that a state highway ends at an Interstate ramp (at least, it would if CR-297 were a state highway).  PA-63 has ramps that simply transition onto NB or SB I-95.  But, in the example TBKS1 linked to, CR-297 terminates at the ramp between NB I-55 and AR-118–similar to what happens to SB FM-1223 near San Angelo, Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/gVT1QeW4i9v) (except that FM-1223 actually multiplexes and then continues).

Quote from: kphoger on January 16, 2018, 03:56:06 PM
I think you missed it.  It's not that a state highway ends at an Interstate highway, but that a state highway ends at an Interstate ramp (at least, it would if CR-297 were a state highway).  PA-63 has ramps that simply transition onto NB or SB I-95.  But, in the example TBKS1 linked to, CR-297 terminates at the ramp between NB I-55 and AR-118–similar to what happens to SB FM-1223 near San Angelo, Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/gVT1QeW4i9v) (except that FM-1223 actually multiplexes and then continues).

Oh, I get it. No, I can't think of any examples then

Prior to 1997 in New Berlin WI Moorland Small and Grange all came together at a crazy intersection where 2 of the roads ended and one came though diagonally. Small rd the diagonal one was rerouted when Moorland was extended.

I see on street view that it is a County highway now.

Off the top of my head, here's a 5-way stop in Salt Lake (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7497587,-111.8595212,177m/data=!3m1!1e3). Not too weird, but the problem with intersections like this is that people often forget about that fifth angle road (Gilmer Dr).

I'm not actually sure whether this intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7567306,-111.8623897,146m/data=!3m1!1e3) should be treated as a 5-way stop or as a 4-way with a separate intersection just to the north.

Quote from: roadguy2 on January 17, 2018, 12:50:54 AM
I'm not actually sure whether this intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7567306,-111.8623897,146m/data=!3m1!1e3) should be treated as a 5-way stop or as a 4-way with a separate intersection just to the north.

The stop sign for the NW approach has no supplemental plaque, so I would guess the latter. But the layout of the intersection would certainly suggest the former.

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 16, 2018, 09:59:25 PM
I see on street view that it is a County highway now.

It was never a state highway to begin with.

This intersection of US30, Taylor St, and Nicholson street in Joliet, IL is insane... to me...

https://goo.gl/maps/jCrTjEyDqf12


Here, US 30 takes an eastern turn, then one block later takes a southern turn to get to downtown Joliet IL.  Note that Nicholson St. is now a cul de sac on both sides of 30, but not on taylor.  This is a dangerous corner.

Now the reason I think this is insane, and to be fair it's pretty tame compared with others shared here, is because of an experience I had here.

First off, just to the west is University (formerly college) of St. Francis, a Catholic college.  One day I was driving SE on 30 towards the intersection, heading home from work.  Welp, on this fateful day, a car blew the stop sign on eastbound Taylor, and T-Boned my car.  I got out of my car, and who should get out of the other car but four nuns.  You see, the convent for the university was EAST of 30 there, and they were heading there.

They all piled out, kept looking at the damage to both vehicles saying "Oh, mercy!"  On the SW corner there used to be a laundromat, and several people rushed out yelling "I saw what happened!"  The whole thing was so surreal that I was laughing the whole time.

Something like this only happens to me, it seems.

Oh, the nun's insurance company was, and I am not making this up, "Sisters of Mercy Auto."  They paid me fast and fair.

St.Bernard Ave, DeSaix Blvd and Gentilly Blvd in New Orleans.

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9885328,-90.0745847,17z?hl=en

The intersection of US 322 (Paxton Street), Grayson Road, Hilton Street, South 82nd Street, and Chambers Hill Road is pretty complex.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2616693,-76.744267,140m/data=!3m1!1e3

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The Woodlands, TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.155649,-95.4734911,577m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
These are two streets owned by the county. No major expressway

I must be missing something. That just looks like a standard diamond interchange with a RIRO on one ramp.

I am with you on that one.

I certainly don't see RIROs on slip ramps very often, but they're far from rare, and certainly wouldn't quality as "insane". Not in my opinion, at least.

I using insane for fact is well overbuilt for the amount of traffic it normally gets. They keep adding lanes whenever more than 10 cars are waiting at a light. Then complain they don't have the money to extend the road to SH249.

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The Woodlands, TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.155649,-95.4734911,577m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
These are two streets owned by the county. No major expressway

I must be missing something. That just looks like a standard diamond interchange with a RIRO on one ramp.

I am with you on that one.

I certainly don't see RIROs on slip ramps very often, but they're far from rare, and certainly wouldn't quality as "insane". Not in my opinion, at least.

I using insane for fact is well overbuilt for the amount of traffic it normally gets. They keep adding lanes whenever more than 10 cars are waiting at a light. Then complain they don't have the money to extend the road to SH249.

I'm not 100% sure that was what CtrlAltDel meant by "insane", but I can see your point.

This one isn't as insane as the one I mentioned earlier, but it is insanely tricky to use: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3269306,-83.271755,17z?hl=en (Ford Rd and Telegraph Rd in Dearborn Heights)

Signage is bad, especially on EB Ford Rd (https://goo.gl/maps/ggZyucFGeSm)
Traffic from EB Ford to NB Telegraph should also be directed to use the ramp to SB Telegraph, as there is a Michigan Left turnaround a few hundred feet past where the EB -> SB ramp merges in. I was honked at yesterday for following the sign by going straight at the ramp verge then turning right on Telegraph to do a Michigan Left as there is no turnaround further down Ford (I was trying to get to Del Taco)

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Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.
(https://newsregister.com/pub/photo/thumb/072817-bypass-photoBW_fitbox_800x600.jpg)

Not at all strange.

Seems pointless to have a T intersection only to loop it back across with an overpass. The overpass is nothing but an added expense. Just put the intersection where the overpass is at and call it a day.

Usually that design is because there is a train track too close to the intersection, like in that photo. The highway with the overpass can't get down from the bridge over the train track in time for the intersection, so it keeps going and loops around.

Can concur with that, given this, https://www.google.com/maps/place/Shelburne,+MA+01370/@42.617474,-72.7444398,17.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e1283fded890c1:0xaca337d5ddb5f35c!8m2!3d42.5898074!4d-72.6884244, and https://www.google.com/maps/place/Shelburne,+MA+01370/@43.1874207,-72.4389383,16.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e1283fded890c1:0xaca337d5ddb5f35c!8m2!3d42.5898074!4d-72.6884244

It looks like the OR 18 bypass will continue at some point parallel to OR 99W to connect with its longstanding McMinnville bypass facility en route to the coast; the "hook" down to 99W will likely become part of an interchange between the two highways.

My brother reminded me this weekend of an intersection that looks harmless enough on a map but that can cause all sorts of problems when you drive through it–the intersection at the eastern end of the College of William & Mary and the western end of Colonial Williamsburg. The students call it "Confusion Corner," but local residents have traditionally called it "College Corner" and reserve "Confusion Corner" for a different intersection east of the CW area. My brother lived in the dorm just down the street from there (Taliaferro, which is pronounced like "Tolliver") during his first year at William & Mary, so we both got to know the intersection pretty well.

Regardless of its name, if you're used to this intersection it's easy to bull right through when you know you don't have the stop or yield, but the problem with that is the high volume of tourists who don't know who's supposed to yield mean you're still risking a crash: (a) North Boundary Street is one-way going away from the intersection. (b) Richmond Road coming southeast has a yield sign after you come around the corner. (c) South Boundary Street is two-way and the northbound traffic has a stop sign. (d) Jamestown Road coming northeast has neither a stop sign nor a yield sign unless you're making the right turn onto southbound South Boundary; the movement from Jamestown Road to Richmond Road or North Boundary in particular is plagued by people stopping for invisible stop signs. (e) DOG Street across the way from William & Mary is closed to vehicular traffic but is the central pedestrian artery through Colonial Williamsburg. (f) There are four crosswalks in the main intersection complex.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2707665,-76.7073974,19.54z

Here in Alabama in Alexander City, there is an intersection where two parallel roads with a railroad line in the middle meets another road.  AL-63 has to cross the railroad line, and turn onto one of the parallel roads.  To turn and cross the railroad line, left or right turn, you have a protected red.  The road crossing the railroad has standard and 3M traffic signals.  Yeah, at times people ignore the red light and turn and wait on the railroad tracks for the green light.  https://www.google.com/maps/place/Alexander+City,+AL/@32.9429615,-85.9567742,192m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x888c0b5b0b19fb81:0x7019d475cb03070!8m2!3d32.944012!4d-85.9538532
(https://geekalabama.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/alex-city-058.jpg?w=639&h=426)
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Here in Alabama in Alexander City, there is an intersection where two parallel roads with a railroad line in the middle meets another road.  AL-63 has to cross the railroad line, and turn onto one of the parallel roads.  To turn and cross the railroad line, left or right turn, you have a protected red.  The road crossing the railroad has standard and 3M traffic signals.  Yeah, at times people ignore the red light and turn and wait on the railroad tracks for the green light.  https://www.google.com/maps/place/Alexander+City,+AL/@32.9429615,-85.9567742,192m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x888c0b5b0b19fb81:0x7019d475cb03070!8m2!3d32.944012!4d-85.9538532
(https://geekalabama.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/alex-city-058.jpg?w=639&h=426)
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Possibly redundant having 2 four-lane roads on each side however it could be worse (2 side by side sets of signals instead of one major one unless if I'm mistaking this image).

The junction in north Lafayette of 3rd Street, 4th Street, Union Street, and Salem Street used to be your standard generic junction between two pairs of one-way streets.  Then they relocated the railroad tracks that used to run down 6th Street to a new routing that ran right through that intersection, which they had to then revamp into this horrible mess:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.425175,-86.8931154,429m/data=!3m1!1e3

When US 231 was still routed through this intersection, north 231 had to turn from 4th Street onto Fannon Drive onto Salem Street.  South 231 coming across the river on Union Street got its own ramp to 3rd Street.  Look at how Canal Road south of this intersection exists only to provide access to a power substation-- and the only way to get to Canal Road is either to come from West Lafayette across the river, or come at it from the north end where 3rd/4th Street meet 9th Street-- where 9th Street becomes 9th Street Road.  (Canal Road didn't exist at all before the interchange revamp; it was needed because 3rd Street no longer had access to that area.)

Quote from: bing101 on February 06, 2018, 05:15:15 PM
The CA-170, CA-134@US-101 interchange in Los Angeles. The interchange was originally going to have La Cinega freeway to Ventura and Hollywood freeways.

That's not an intersection, however.

Quote from: bing101 on February 06, 2018, 05:15:15 PM
The CA-170, CA-134@US-101 interchange in Los Angeles. The interchange was originally going to have La Cinega freeway to Ventura and Hollywood freeways.

Interchange is not the same definition as an intersection. If it is an intersection on an interchange though, that would qualify.

Quote from: Finrod on February 06, 2018, 01:51:10 PM
The junction in north Lafayette of 3rd Street, 4th Street, Union Street, and Salem Street used to be your standard generic junction between two pairs of one-way streets.  Then they relocated the railroad tracks that used to run down 6th Street to a new routing that ran right through that intersection, which they had to then revamp into this horrible mess:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.425175,-86.8931154,429m/data=!3m1!1e3

When US 231 was still routed through this intersection, north 231 had to turn from 4th Street onto Fannon Drive onto Salem Street.  South 231 coming across the river on Union Street got its own ramp to 3rd Street.  Look at how Canal Road south of this intersection exists only to provide access to a power substation-- and the only way to get to Canal Road is either to come from West Lafayette across the river, or come at it from the north end where 3rd/4th Street meet 9th Street-- where 9th Street becomes 9th Street Road.  (Canal Road didn't exist at all before the interchange revamp; it was needed because 3rd Street no longer had access to that area.)

On the plus side, that is the site of one of the very few lighted button copy overheads left in Indiana; INDOT turned off lights on overheads (usually by removing the bulbs) but only after they had ceded the Harrison Bridge and rerouted 231 down to River Road.  The button copy signs remain lighted to this day (at night only, of course).

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17039227_10107762659530008_3518224290446868806_o.jpg?oh=193b65f932f4f18855d7ae3ec616ed3a&oe=5B230EA1)
(view from exit ramp eastbound to the aforementioned Canal Road)

This is a really strange one in Borger, Texas.  If you're starting out going north or south, and you want to make a left turn, there had better not be any east-west traffic or you're screwed out of weaving to the left lane.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6615187,-101.3986367,17.17z

Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 02, 2018, 07:31:08 PM
This is a really strange one in Borger, Texas.  If you're starting out going north or south, and you want to make a left turn, there had better not be any east-west traffic or you're screwed out of weaving to the left lane.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6615187,-101.3986367,17.17z

Is that something like a turbine/rotary hybrid?

I've always found the intersections of Hudson, Silver Heights, and 14th in Silver City to be somewhat odd. Why not shut down or narrow Silver Heights Blvd down to 14th so there's still access to the hardware store, but you can still have all US180 traffic go the extra 200 feet down Hudson then turn right.

https://goo.gl/maps/cxECL98Yb5r

Quote from: roadiejay on March 04, 2018, 05:28:50 PM
I've always found the intersections of Hudson, Silver Heights, and 14th in Silver City to be somewhat odd. Why not shut down or narrow Silver Heights Blvd down to 14th so there's still access to the hardware store, but you can still have all US180 traffic go the extra 200 feet down Hudson then turn right.

https://goo.gl/maps/cxECL98Yb5r

Normally, I'm not a big fan of layouts like that, because of the difficulty in timing the lights and how often drivers block one or more intersections. But, the area doesn't appear to be heavily travelled, and the signals seem far apart that changes don't seem necessary (unless the city was looking to perform some road diets).

Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 02, 2018, 07:31:08 PM
This is a really strange one in Borger, Texas.  If you're starting out going north or south, and you want to make a left turn, there had better not be any east-west traffic or you're screwed out of weaving to the left lane.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6615187,-101.3986367,17.17z

Thanks for sharing, that is different!  I always find it funny where someone goes to the trouble and expense to have a free-flowing interchange along a route (in this case both routes) with no access restrictions.  All that work and expense, and a signal gets built 1,000' to the north  :pan:

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Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 02, 2018, 07:31:08 PM
This is a really strange one in Borger, Texas.  If you're starting out going north or south, and you want to make a left turn, there had better not be any east-west traffic or you're screwed out of weaving to the left lane.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6615187,-101.3986367,17.17z

Thanks for sharing, that is different!  I always find it funny where someone goes to the trouble and expense to have a free-flowing interchange along a route (in this case both routes) with no access restrictions.  All that work and expense, and a signal gets built 1,000' to the north  :pan:

Looks just like the US 20/Route 128(I-95) interchange, but at least there, one of the roads is limited access.  Indeed, why go to the trouble of this complex pseudo-rotary on two regular roads?

Vaguely reminds me of the intersection of Clarksville St and Loop 286 in Paris, TX... The whole loop 286 is set up weird. It has interchanges with major cross roads, but many of the onramps connect directly to minor side streets and driveways, so you have to look over your shoulder to merge while being mindful of slowing traffic. Stupid design:

https://goo.gl/maps/X9Nj7CN6nZA2

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 04, 2018, 11:07:02 PM
I nominate the approaches for the George Washington Bridge. Eight total signed routes NY 9A, NJ 4, USs 1/9/46,  Is 95 and 80 and the Palisaides Parkway)  either terminate or interface directly with it.

This thread is about intersections, not interchanges.

Sorry to bump this. This is my first time commenting on AARoads. I'm from Oklahoma and I was browsing through this whole thread and thought of back home.

Look at this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1586279,-95.9810899,84m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en  (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1586279,-95.9810899,84m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)

What is happening at this intersection right off the highway (This is not an interchange, but an exit intersection)

What's happening there is Tulsa apparently wanting a roundabout but not wanting to commit to it. Or possibly OG&E (or whoever) being unwilling to move their power pole for the sake of the intersection.

Hello from Norman, and welcome to the forums!

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https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5113134,-90.1787283,18.21z

This intersection isn't really insane, it's just weird.

That one is pretty strange. I don't think I've ever seen a state highway end at an exit ramp off an Interstate highway before this one.

Yeah me neither. I haven't found anything else like that on Google Maps.

I've been all over and can't think of a single one, that makes this one insane.

It's a county route, not a state route, for whatever that's worth.

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Quote from: ftballfan on January 12, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
This eight-way intersection in Detroit: https://goo.gl/maps/hgdQ7zQGKc22 (Tireman is the only road remotely resembling a major road, and one of the legs was cut off at one point, but the curb markings are still there)

I wonder why they added the jog in the northwest quadrant.  Old maps and aerials show that it was originally straight.

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Quote from: ftballfan on January 12, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
This eight-way intersection in Detroit: https://goo.gl/maps/hgdQ7zQGKc22 (Tireman is the only road remotely resembling a major road, and one of the legs was cut off at one point, but the curb markings are still there)

I wonder why they added the jog in the northwest quadrant.  Old maps and aerials show that it was originally straight.

A way to enforce the No Trucks sign?

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Quote from: ftballfan on January 12, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
This eight-way intersection in Detroit: https://goo.gl/maps/hgdQ7zQGKc22 (Tireman is the only road remotely resembling a major road, and one of the legs was cut off at one point, but the curb markings are still there)

I wonder why they added the jog in the northwest quadrant.  Old maps and aerials show that it was originally straight.

Back in the 1970s I was an telephone installer for the local Bell company.  Part of my territory was NW Detroit and parts of east Dearborn, and I traveled through this intersection often.  The jog on Littlefield was added as some sort of park beautification effort 'way back when.

Also, back then this intersection was served by an ancient 8-way traffic signal that gave an advance yellow for Tireman and Miller just before the signal switched from red to green.  Never saw another one like it.

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I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


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Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

That intersection isn't that bad and yes I have experienced it.  I've stayed at one or more of the hotels over there.

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Is it a trumpet?  Is it a parclo?  No-- it's a trump-clo!  Now watch the ex-president try to claim naming credit!

It's really not that insane anymore. They added a new ramp to the mix to eliminate whatever weaving remained with the old setup. Now it's honestly quite good.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4417476,-86.7299631,787m/data=!3m1!1e3

^^ IMO, 1st Pl does not need to exist...that would simplify the intersection.

Second, I don't see how a roundabout would be feasible there since 1st St is one-way and the intersection happens right where the two off-ramps to 1st St (from SB 75 and WB 244) merge.

I'm amazed in that nobody has yet mentioned the US 20/US 61/US 151 mess in downtown Dubuque, IA.

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^ Perhaps because it's simply a series of regular 4-way and T-intersections.  Although it's annoying making the connection between the two, there's nothing really fancy about that.  The OP also specified they were looking at regular roads and not "freeways and expressways"...

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Quote from: ftballfan on January 12, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
This eight-way intersection in Detroit: https://goo.gl/maps/hgdQ7zQGKc22 (Tireman is the only road remotely resembling a major road, and one of the legs was cut off at one point, but the curb markings are still there)

I wonder why they added the jog in the northwest quadrant.  Old maps and aerials show that it was originally straight.

Back in the 1970s I was an telephone installer for the local Bell company.  Part of my territory was NW Detroit and parts of east Dearborn, and I traveled through this intersection often.  The jog on Littlefield was added as some sort of park beautification effort 'way back when.

Also, back then this intersection was served by an ancient 8-way traffic signal that gave an advance yellow for Tireman and Miller just before the signal switched from red to green.  Never saw another one like it.

Eight way signal?! What!!