I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange

[jeffandnicole]

I do believe that it was signed for SB US 206 at one time, but can't be sure.

It was.

They could easily fit banners into the new sign as there was inches all around on this previous one.

As far as US 206 being unidirectional here at 56, yes its correct, but straight through US 206 NB is better to use US 130 though.

True...if your destination is north of the 130/206 concurrence. 

If your destination is between the NJ Turnpike entrance and the 130/206 concurrence, it would be confusing for a traveler to use an exit marked 206 South when they need to go north on 206.  Connector Road was built to facilitate this movement.  Thus, because of this 'no mans land' caused by the cardinal directions on the signage at Exit 56 & 57, the cardinal direction was eliminated at Exit 56.

[roadman65]

I would like to know if PennDOT will ever remove Trenton as control city at the Oxford Valley Interchange along US 1 as that is for I-95 North there going NB.  US 1 goes to Trenton and should be signed for it on old I-95 soon I-295 as its first ext.  Before 1991 it was signed along Business US 1 and that was I-95's exit in PA for Trenton.  North of there Yardley was used and NJ was used at the New Hope interchange.

Princeton is ideal, despite the freeway not going there, but its close enough to where the arc reaches its peak.  Or even reinstate Yardley in PA and let NJ do what it has using Camden and New York (though NY will not make sense anymore as signs to I-95 North will soon perish) but I say that cause it takes NJ decades to upgrade a simple sign.  Look at how long Morristown was removed from NJ 82 on the Garden State Parkway where NJ 24 from I-78 was a better choice since 1975 or around.

On US 206 in Lawrence I predict that New York will remain as SB I-295 control city for years to come, unless someone in NJDOT realized it for once and have already taken steps for its upgrade to Camden only!

[roadman65]

I do believe that it was signed for SB US 206 at one time, but can't be sure.

It was.

They could easily fit banners into the new sign as there was inches all around on this previous one.

As far as US 206 being unidirectional here at 56, yes its correct, but straight through US 206 NB is better to use US 130 though.

True...if your destination is north of the 130/206 concurrence. 

If your destination is between the NJ Turnpike entrance and the 130/206 concurrence, it would be confusing for a traveler to use an exit marked 206 South when they need to go north on 206.  Connector Road was built to facilitate this movement.  Thus, because of this 'no mans land' caused by the cardinal directions on the signage at Exit 56 & 57, the cardinal direction was eliminated at Exit 56.

Who is going to care anyhow?  Yes technically correct, but going to the NJ Turnpike people just want to go to the Turnpike.  Being that 295 shifts away from the corridor is why that road is mentioned anyhow.

Fix would be to revise Exit 57 and let it say "TO North US 206." instead of implying a concurrency that don't happen for a mile.

[jeffandnicole]

I do believe that it was signed for SB US 206 at one time, but can't be sure.

It was.

They could easily fit banners into the new sign as there was inches all around on this previous one.

As far as US 206 being unidirectional here at 56, yes its correct, but straight through US 206 NB is better to use US 130 though.

True...if your destination is north of the 130/206 concurrence. 

If your destination is between the NJ Turnpike entrance and the 130/206 concurrence, it would be confusing for a traveler to use an exit marked 206 South when they need to go north on 206.  Connector Road was built to facilitate this movement.  Thus, because of this 'no mans land' caused by the cardinal directions on the signage at Exit 56 & 57, the cardinal direction was eliminated at Exit 56.

Who is going to care anyhow?  Yes technically correct, but going to the NJ Turnpike people just want to go to the Turnpike.  Being that 295 shifts away from the corridor is why that road is mentioned anyhow.

The NJ Turnpike is signed on 295 at Interchanges 2 (NJ 140, Southbound only), 11 (US 322), 28 (NJ 168), 36 (NJ 73), and 47 (CR 541), with formerly just supplemental signage at Exit 60 Northbound (I-195), so Exit 56 isn't just signed with the Turnpike because of how the corridors separate there.

In reality, there's little reason to even sign the NJ Turnpike on 295 at Exit 11(A) because of the distance to get to the Turnpike, and it's a single lane road most of the distance with increasing congestion.  The only reason people really need to access the Turnpike from 295 there is to avoid an incident on 295. 

[PHLBOS]

I would like to know if PennDOT will ever remove Trenton as control city at the Oxford Valley Interchange along US 1 as that is for I-95 North there going NB.

Actually, the exit BGS for I-95 northbound along US 1 southbound had its control city changed to Princeton well over a decade ago.  For some reason its (US 1) northbound counterpart wasn't changed.  Not sure why the inconsistency (aside from PennDOT being PennDOT).  I'm assuming that northbound BGS will be completely replaced once PA starts with their I-295 sign changes.

[GreenLanternCorps]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

[jeffandnicole]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

[Alps]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Right now there pretty much isn't even an existing 95. It's been reduced to rubble.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Right now there pretty much isn't even an existing 95. It's been reduced to rubble.

3,000 miles of gravel?

[Alps]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Right now there pretty much isn't even an existing 95. It's been reduced to rubble.

3,000 miles of gravel?

At least 3,000 feet.

[roadman65]

I do believe that it was signed for SB US 206 at one time, but can't be sure.

It was.

They could easily fit banners into the new sign as there was inches all around on this previous one.

As far as US 206 being unidirectional here at 56, yes its correct, but straight through US 206 NB is better to use US 130 though.

True...if your destination is north of the 130/206 concurrence. 

If your destination is between the NJ Turnpike entrance and the 130/206 concurrence, it would be confusing for a traveler to use an exit marked 206 South when they need to go north on 206.  Connector Road was built to facilitate this movement.  Thus, because of this 'no mans land' caused by the cardinal directions on the signage at Exit 56 & 57, the cardinal direction was eliminated at Exit 56.

Who is going to care anyhow?  Yes technically correct, but going to the NJ Turnpike people just want to go to the Turnpike.  Being that 295 shifts away from the corridor is why that road is mentioned anyhow.

The NJ Turnpike is signed on 295 at Interchanges 2 (NJ 140, Southbound only), 11 (US 322), 28 (NJ 168), 36 (NJ 73), and 47 (CR 541), with formerly just supplemental signage at Exit 60 Northbound (I-195), so Exit 56 isn't just signed with the Turnpike because of how the corridors separate there.

In reality, there's little reason to even sign the NJ Turnpike on 295 at Exit 11(A) because of the distance to get to the Turnpike, and it's a single lane road most of the distance with increasing congestion.  The only reason people really need to access the Turnpike from 295 there is to avoid an incident on 295. 

Maybe I said it wrong, but I know about the previous ones along the route.  The Exit 11 thing is recent of them all.  NJ 168 is to guide motorists from the Walt Whitman to the toll road being no interchange at NJ 42.  Exit 47 was added later on when Exit numbers were added late in the 80's or early in the 90's.  The original signs had florescant lighting from the top which were the style from the late 60's and early 70's/

Whether US 206 gets directional tabs or not is not a major issue, but thought that it was better the old way.  However most people using US 206 anyway are locals as gong to Trenton now people will stay on 295 as its been completed for decades north of US 130.

Really US 130 should be resigned and before I-295 was completed to I-195 it also had Trenton as a control city beneath Bordentown due to having to use US 206 the rest of the way. 

However at Exit 56 I-295 pulls away from the Turnpike and that is like the last ditch chance (other than I-195 a few miles further, but has a longer drive between the two freeways) one really has easily to convert to continue toward Newark and New York.

[roadman65]

Did NJDOT finally remove I-95 from the WB I-195 exit guide for I-295 N Bound as it was destined for that and US 1 along with Princeton since the interchange was configured into its present state in 94>

[Roadwarriors79]

Some updates for those who care:

There have been some changes to certain Wikipedia articles in light of the signage changes. There's no longer a section about the "Trenton Section" of I-95 in the I-95 in New Jersey article. The northern terminus of I-95 in PA has been changed to I-295 in Yardley; that, and I-295's "current" north end is I-95 in Lower Makefield Township, PA.

Last but not least, one of the updates shows this sign at the junction between I-95 and I-676, showing the new control city of New York.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_95_in_Pennsylvania#/media/File:Interstate_95_Philadelphia_sign.jpg

The rest of the resigning work for I-295 will be done in August.

FWIW if you look on Waze Maps, I-295 is now marked on the "old"  Trenton section of I-95. Waze marks I-95 in New Jersey on the currently unsigned sections of the NJ Turnpike.

[jcn]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Given the amount of work left, when do you predict the flyover ramps will open?

[theroadwayone]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Given the amount of work left, when do you predict the flyover ramps will open?

Hopefully no later than end of August.

[jeffandnicole]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Given the amount of work left, when do you predict the flyover ramps will open?

Hopefully no later than end of August.

That's what the PTC says.  Based on the work that needs to be done, it should easily be done by then.  Based on their speed of doing such work, I dunno...

[jcn]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Given the amount of work left, when do you predict the flyover ramps will open?

Hopefully no later than end of August.

That's what the PTC says.  Based on the work that needs to be done, it should easily be done by then.  Based on their speed of doing such work, I dunno...

Given their speed, do you think, by the time the ramps finally open, it will be 2019?

[jeffandnicole]

What exactly is left to be done before the I-95 gap is officially closed?

The overpasses themselves are poured.  There is a lot of slope, ramp, paving and concrete work to be done though on the ramps and along existing I-95.

Given the amount of work left, when do you predict the flyover ramps will open?

Hopefully no later than end of August.

That's what the PTC says.  Based on the work that needs to be done, it should easily be done by then.  Based on their speed of doing such work, I dunno...

Given their speed, do you think, by the time the ramps finally open, it will be 2019?

They still say 2018, but they are very vague on it.  I knew there's been something in writing previously stating August 2018, but I couldn't find it during a brief review of their site.  It simply says "2018" or "thru the 2018 construction season", whatever that means.

[SignBridge]

Construction Season typically lasts until the weather gets cold, like maybe Thanksgiving, in the Northeast.

[theroadwayone]

Construction Season typically lasts until the weather gets cold, like maybe Thanksgiving, in the Northeast.

Well, they're basically done with laying the concrete on the ramps. All that's left to do is all the striping, tie-ins, signage, etc. That shouldn't take very long, but since this is PA, it could take forever. I mean, in the '50s, they built the entirety of the original NJ Turnpike in less than two years, but that was then, and this is now.

[jeffandnicole]

Construction Season typically lasts until the weather gets cold, like maybe Thanksgiving, in the Northeast.

Well, they're basically done with laying the concrete on the ramps. All that's left to do is all the striping, tie-ins, signage, etc. That shouldn't take very long, but since this is PA, it could take forever. I mean, in the '50s, they built the entirety of the original NJ Turnpike in less than two years, but that was then, and this is now.

They're basically done with laying the concrete on the *elevated* portions of the ramps.  There's quite a bit of concrete/asphalt paving they still need to do.

[bzakharin]

Construction Season typically lasts until the weather gets cold, like maybe Thanksgiving, in the Northeast.

Well, they're basically done with laying the concrete on the ramps. All that's left to do is all the striping, tie-ins, signage, etc. That shouldn't take very long, but since this is PA, it could take forever. I mean, in the '50s, they built the entirety of the original NJ Turnpike in less than two years, but that was then, and this is now.

Well, the NJTA essentially built 32 miles of new roadway in 5 years (during the exit 6-9 widening). Not on the order of the original feat, but much faster than any other modern project I can think of.

[jeffandnicole]

Construction Season typically lasts until the weather gets cold, like maybe Thanksgiving, in the Northeast.

Well, they're basically done with laying the concrete on the ramps. All that's left to do is all the striping, tie-ins, signage, etc. That shouldn't take very long, but since this is PA, it could take forever. I mean, in the '50s, they built the entirety of the original NJ Turnpike in less than two years, but that was then, and this is now.

Well, the NJTA essentially built 32 miles of new roadway in 5 years (during the exit 6-9 widening). Not on the order of the original feat, but much faster than any other modern project I can think of.

Not to mention it was so far under budget that they added 2 additional contracts to work on the existing lanes, and were still nearly 10% under the original budget.

[Beltway]

Well, they're basically done with laying the concrete on the ramps. All that's left to do is all the striping, tie-ins, signage, etc. That shouldn't take very long, but since this is PA, it could take forever. I mean, in the '50s, they built the entirety of the original NJ Turnpike in less than two years, but that was then, and this is now.

Well, the NJTA essentially built 32 miles of new roadway in 5 years (during the exit 6-9 widening). Not on the order of the original feat, but much faster than any other modern project I can think of.

If the agency awards 118 miles of construction contracts in a few months then the highway can get built in 2 years or so.  Most other turnpikes were built very quickly, by issuing enough bonds to cover the whole cost.

[jeffandnicole]

Well, they're basically done with laying the concrete on the ramps. All that's left to do is all the striping, tie-ins, signage, etc. That shouldn't take very long, but since this is PA, it could take forever. I mean, in the '50s, they built the entirety of the original NJ Turnpike in less than two years, but that was then, and this is now.

Well, the NJTA essentially built 32 miles of new roadway in 5 years (during the exit 6-9 widening). Not on the order of the original feat, but much faster than any other modern project I can think of.

If the agency awards 118 miles of construction contracts in a few months then the highway can get built in 2 years or so.  Most other turnpikes were built very quickly, by issuing enough bonds to cover the whole cost.

They were also built during a time when OSHA and overtime wasn't a factor. Oh, and there wasn't an existing road in the way which required working alongside roads with 80,000 or 180,000 vehicles passing by at the same time.

The worst of it was basically bulldozing thru existing neighborhoods and cities, especially in North Jersey, and indeed that portion of the roadway took longer to construct.  South of the Brunswicks, they were mostly going thru farmland.