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Re: Defunct restaurant chains and retailers
« Reply #500 on: January 10, 2018, 05:19:07 PM »

Last time I went to a Steak N Shake was the one in Auburn Hills, Michigan on Christmas Day 2017. I waited forever to get waited on and it really wasn't even that busy. My usual Flint spot (Starlite Coney Island) was closed for the day.
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« Reply #501 on: January 10, 2018, 08:25:56 PM »

In-N-Out is overrated.

Five Guys and Steak 'N Shake kick it in the tush.
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Re: Defunct restaurant chains and retailers
« Reply #502 on: January 10, 2018, 08:36:53 PM »

In-N-Out is overrated.

Never had In-N-Out, but to me Whataburger is overrated.
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« Reply #503 on: January 10, 2018, 09:29:07 PM »

I had Whataburger when I was in Texas. It was decent.

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« Reply #504 on: January 11, 2018, 10:05:49 AM »

If you're in CA, why go to Steak 'N' Shake when you could go to In-N-Out Burger?
He lives in California.  Why would he go to the same place every time?  You live in Chicago?  How about you live on Chicago Pizza every day?

I like a lot of burger joints -- discovered In'n'Out when they were just in the San Gabriel Valley and Inland Empire back in the '60's when I was attending UC Riverside -- and have been going there since.  But I also like Fuddruckers (they're down to one Fremont store locally at this time); if it's really convenient, a Carl's Jr. (Super Star, no tomato!) works quite well -- most of the other national chains are avoided when possible.  And I grew up on Bob's Big Boy -- which has all but disappeared in CA; when I'm back east, I'll stop at an Elby's for that particular cuisine if there's one around (their outlet on I-90 in Erie, PA -- at the PA 97 exit -- was one of my regular lunch/dinner treats!).  I do like to spread my burger experience around a bit -- which is why I regret not having the opportunity to hit a local Steak & Shake -- I might hit the SJSU mini-site some time -- if I can park close enough!

Big Boy is thriving in Michigan, and the menu is very close to what it was in the past.  I think they have various burgers on the menu styled after the burgers served at the various Big Boys (Marc's, Bob's, Frisch's, etc.) over the years.
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Re: Defunct restaurant chains and retailers
« Reply #505 on: January 11, 2018, 10:06:22 AM »

In-N-Out is overrated.

Never had In-N-Out, but to me Whataburger is overrated.

I can't remember if I've had Fatburger or Whataburger, but whichever it was, yes, it's overrated.
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« Reply #507 on: January 11, 2018, 01:51:55 PM »

In-N-Out is overrated.

Never had In-N-Out, but to me Whataburger is overrated.

Absolutely!

I hate Whataburger fries.
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« Reply #508 on: January 11, 2018, 07:58:46 PM »

...Whataburger is overrated.

Yeah, I don't get it. Other than seeming like the inspiration to Burger King's Whopper, it's just an average fast food burger with dry fries.
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« Reply #509 on: January 11, 2018, 11:52:39 PM »

If you're in CA, why go to Steak 'N' Shake when you could go to In-N-Out Burger?
He lives in California.  Why would he go to the same place every time?  You live in Chicago?  How about you live on Chicago Pizza every day?

I like a lot of burger joints -- discovered In'n'Out when they were just in the San Gabriel Valley and Inland Empire back in the '60's when I was attending UC Riverside -- and have been going there since.  But I also like Fuddruckers (they're down to one Fremont store locally at this time); if it's really convenient, a Carl's Jr. (Super Star, no tomato!) works quite well -- most of the other national chains are avoided when possible.  And I grew up on Bob's Big Boy -- which has all but disappeared in CA; when I'm back east, I'll stop at an Elby's for that particular cuisine if there's one around (their outlet on I-90 in Erie, PA -- at the PA 97 exit -- was one of my regular lunch/dinner treats!).  I do like to spread my burger experience around a bit -- which is why I regret not having the opportunity to hit a local Steak & Shake -- I might hit the SJSU mini-site some time -- if I can park close enough!

Big Boy is thriving in Michigan, and the menu is very close to what it was in the past.  I think they have various burgers on the menu styled after the burgers served at the various Big Boys (Marc's, Bob's, Frisch's, etc.) over the years.
Big Boy is diminished somewhat from its peak, but it's doing better than Kmart. BB seems to be doing best in smallish communities that don't have Bob Evans, Denny's, Cracker Barrel, or IHOP
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« Reply #510 on: January 12, 2018, 01:11:34 PM »

If you're in CA, why go to Steak 'N' Shake when you could go to In-N-Out Burger?
He lives in California.  Why would he go to the same place every time?  You live in Chicago?  How about you live on Chicago Pizza every day?
There are five Big Boy's within about 30 miles of me. Clio, Bay City, Essexville, Midland and Bridgeport. To me I'm kind of surprised that the Essexville and Bridgeport one's are still open. Bridgeport's though is at an exit off I-75 but Essexville's is in a part of Bay County that doesn't seem like it'd be doing too well. I forgot another one in Caro that one is still open.

I don't think any of them are open 24 hours which is probably handicapping them from going against Denny's or IHOP completely. I thought the one on Plymouth Road in Ann Arbor was open 24 hours but they don't look to be anymore.

I like a lot of burger joints -- discovered In'n'Out when they were just in the San Gabriel Valley and Inland Empire back in the '60's when I was attending UC Riverside -- and have been going there since.  But I also like Fuddruckers (they're down to one Fremont store locally at this time); if it's really convenient, a Carl's Jr. (Super Star, no tomato!) works quite well -- most of the other national chains are avoided when possible.  And I grew up on Bob's Big Boy -- which has all but disappeared in CA; when I'm back east, I'll stop at an Elby's for that particular cuisine if there's one around (their outlet on I-90 in Erie, PA -- at the PA 97 exit -- was one of my regular lunch/dinner treats!).  I do like to spread my burger experience around a bit -- which is why I regret not having the opportunity to hit a local Steak & Shake -- I might hit the SJSU mini-site some time -- if I can park close enough!

Big Boy is thriving in Michigan, and the menu is very close to what it was in the past.  I think they have various burgers on the menu styled after the burgers served at the various Big Boys (Marc's, Bob's, Frisch's, etc.) over the years.
Big Boy is diminished somewhat from its peak, but it's doing better than Kmart. BB seems to be doing best in smallish communities that don't have Bob Evans, Denny's, Cracker Barrel, or IHOP
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Re: Defunct restaurant chains and retailers
« Reply #511 on: January 12, 2018, 02:13:58 PM »

There are five Big Boy's within about 30 miles of me. Clio, Bay City, Essexville, Midland and Bridgeport. To me I'm kind of surprised that the Essexville and Bridgeport one's are still open. Bridgeport's though is at an exit off I-75 but Essexville's is in a part of Bay County that doesn't seem like it'd be doing too well. I forgot another one in Caro that one is still open.

I don't think any of them are open 24 hours which is probably handicapping them from going against Denny's or IHOP completely. I thought the one on Plymouth Road in Ann Arbor was open 24 hours but they don't look to be anymore.

Based on my visits in recent years, I'd say their clientele is probably largely asleep by 8 pm.

Apropos of nothing, I'm suddenly remembering trips to Shoney's for the late-night breakfast buffet 25 years ago.
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« Reply #512 on: January 12, 2018, 02:55:21 PM »

There are five Big Boy's within about 30 miles of me. Clio, Bay City, Essexville, Midland and Bridgeport. To me I'm kind of surprised that the Essexville and Bridgeport one's are still open. Bridgeport's though is at an exit off I-75 but Essexville's is in a part of Bay County that doesn't seem like it'd be doing too well. I forgot another one in Caro that one is still open.

I don't think any of them are open 24 hours which is probably handicapping them from going against Denny's or IHOP completely. I thought the one on Plymouth Road in Ann Arbor was open 24 hours but they don't look to be anymore.

Based on my visits in recent years, I'd say their clientele is probably largely asleep by 8 pm.

Apropos of nothing, I'm suddenly remembering trips to Shoney's for the late-night breakfast buffet 25 years ago.
Most Big Boy's stay open until 11 or midnight. And as for Shoney's I remember the one here it closed in the late 90's, became a Lone Star, and is now an IHOP. Pretty good place to eat especially if you were traveling. Big Boy could do fine being open 24/7 in the Detroit area competing with Denny's, Ram's Horn and IHOP mostly.
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« Reply #513 on: January 12, 2018, 03:22:36 PM »

Most Big Boy's stay open until 11 or midnight. And as for Shoney's I remember the one here it closed in the late 90's, became a Lone Star, and is now an IHOP. Pretty good place to eat especially if you were traveling. Big Boy could do fine being open 24/7 in the Detroit area competing with Denny's, Ram's Horn and IHOP mostly.

Ram's Horn? I'm curious now, is or was that a national chain or is that something local to Detroit? There used to be a diner called the Ram's Horn Diner at the corner of Beach Channel Drive and Beach 116 Street in Queens near the Rockaway Park subway station; I believe an HSBC now occupies the property. My grandmother lived in Far Rockaway and liked that diner for some reason (perhaps because it was easily accessible by public transit since she didn't drive?). I always thought it was just a local place.
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« Reply #514 on: January 12, 2018, 03:34:31 PM »

Most Big Boy's stay open until 11 or midnight. And as for Shoney's I remember the one here it closed in the late 90's, became a Lone Star, and is now an IHOP. Pretty good place to eat especially if you were traveling. Big Boy could do fine being open 24/7 in the Detroit area competing with Denny's, Ram's Horn and IHOP mostly.

Ram's Horn? I'm curious now, is or was that a national chain or is that something local to Detroit? There used to be a diner called the Ram's Horn Diner at the corner of Beach Channel Drive and Beach 116 Street in Queens near the Rockaway Park subway station; I believe an HSBC now occupies the property. My grandmother lived in Far Rockaway and liked that diner for some reason (perhaps because it was easily accessible by public transit since she didn't drive?). I always thought it was just a local place.
It's a Detroit chain. They tried having locations in a couple of other parts of Michigan like Port Huron and Saginaw but they closed those one's years ago. This is their website http://www.ramshornrestaurants.com/
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« Reply #515 on: January 12, 2018, 03:47:48 PM »

Most Big Boy's stay open until 11 or midnight. And as for Shoney's I remember the one here it closed in the late 90's, became a Lone Star, and is now an IHOP. Pretty good place to eat especially if you were traveling. Big Boy could do fine being open 24/7 in the Detroit area competing with Denny's, Ram's Horn and IHOP mostly.

Ram's Horn? I'm curious now, is or was that a national chain or is that something local to Detroit? There used to be a diner called the Ram's Horn Diner at the corner of Beach Channel Drive and Beach 116 Street in Queens near the Rockaway Park subway station; I believe an HSBC now occupies the property. My grandmother lived in Far Rockaway and liked that diner for some reason (perhaps because it was easily accessible by public transit since she didn't drive?). I always thought it was just a local place.
It's a Detroit chain. They tried having locations in a couple of other parts of Michigan like Port Huron and Saginaw but they closed those one's years ago. This is their website http://www.ramshornrestaurants.com/

Thanks for that. Unrelated, then.
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« Reply #516 on: January 12, 2018, 03:54:32 PM »

Most Big Boy's stay open until 11 or midnight. And as for Shoney's I remember the one here it closed in the late 90's, became a Lone Star, and is now an IHOP. Pretty good place to eat especially if you were traveling. Big Boy could do fine being open 24/7 in the Detroit area competing with Denny's, Ram's Horn and IHOP mostly.

Ram's Horn? I'm curious now, is or was that a national chain or is that something local to Detroit? There used to be a diner called the Ram's Horn Diner at the corner of Beach Channel Drive and Beach 116 Street in Queens near the Rockaway Park subway station; I believe an HSBC now occupies the property. My grandmother lived in Far Rockaway and liked that diner for some reason (perhaps because it was easily accessible by public transit since she didn't drive?). I always thought it was just a local place.
It's a Detroit chain. They tried having locations in a couple of other parts of Michigan like Port Huron and Saginaw but they closed those one's years ago. This is their website http://www.ramshornrestaurants.com/

Thanks for that. Unrelated, then.
No problem. Yeah Ram's Horn is almost like a Denny's or IHOP really.
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« Reply #517 on: January 12, 2018, 04:09:05 PM »

Ames went from 700 stores in 1998 to chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2002. One of the quickest falls in retail history
To clarify: Chapter 11 is bankruptcy (for businesses), Chapter 7 is liquidation.  I'm assuming you meant liquidation.
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« Reply #518 on: January 12, 2018, 08:32:52 PM »

Ames went from 700 stores in 1998 to chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2002. One of the quickest falls in retail history
To clarify: Chapter 11 is bankruptcy (for businesses), Chapter 7 is liquidation.  I'm assuming you meant liquidation.

That confusion is common thanks to poor media reporting.
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« Reply #519 on: January 12, 2018, 08:49:15 PM »

You mean Ames Hardware?
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« Reply #520 on: January 12, 2018, 11:41:59 PM »

No, we mean Ames the discount store.
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« Reply #521 on: January 13, 2018, 07:44:39 PM »

In-N-Out is overrated.

Never had In-N-Out, but to me Whataburger is overrated.

Absolutely!

I hate Whataburger fries.
Go to Red Robin, you get all u can eat with an entrée purchase!  They are not bad for unlimited. 
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« Reply #522 on: January 14, 2018, 01:15:47 PM »

In-N-Out is overrated.

Never had In-N-Out, but to me Whataburger is overrated.

Absolutely!

I hate Whataburger fries.
Go to Red Robin, you get all u can eat with an entrée purchase!  They are not bad for unlimited. 

Got a new burger chain out here called Habit; recently tried them -- the portions and meat were OK, but there wasn't much in the way of taste (they simply use mustard/mayo but sparingly); and their fries were pretty soggy (I do like In-n-Out fries!).  Think I'll stick with In-n-Out, which is currently embroiled in a controversy in Campbell; they want to put an outlet in (it would be the closest to my home), but the location (a defunct bar-and-grill that would be torn down), adjacent to CA 17, isn't looked upon too well by some locals who fear drive-through lines out onto the street.  The chain likes the property because the location includes a huge parking lot.  We'll have to see who wins this fight; apparently the Campbell planning commission is split on the matter.
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« Reply #523 on: January 14, 2018, 01:20:55 PM »

In-N-Out is overrated.

Never had In-N-Out, but to me Whataburger is overrated.

Absolutely!

I hate Whataburger fries.
Go to Red Robin, you get all u can eat with an entrée purchase!  They are not bad for unlimited. 

After trying many of their pricier burgers, my favorites continue to be the $6.99 Tavern Doubles.  Thinner meat patties, but still very tasty.  And unlimited fries with their dry seasoning, which is what I really crave.

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« Reply #524 on: January 14, 2018, 01:49:05 PM »

I tried Steak & Shake when I went out to Indy a couple of years ago.  Cheap, but not very filling.  If it weren't for the shake, I felt like I could have eaten 5 burgers.  Closest ones to me are near Trenton and in the Lehigh Valley.

Never tried In & Out or Whataburger.  My friend from Houston, the Texan that he is, swears by it.  My CT friend went to one in San Antonio and almost gagged.  He told my Houston friend how bad it was, and it might as well have been Al Chervic calling it dog food and the chef reacting. 

Five Guys is a good burger, but can do a little less on the grease.  I'm waiting for a Shake Shack to open near me in part of a closed down Sears location.  There's one in downtown New Haven, but it's not worth the parking hassle.   Hear good things, but I want to see if it's for real or just hype.
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