I-265 Ohio River Bridge

[seicer]

Remember that Kentucky's I-265 was originally KY 841, with segments dating to 1959. Portions were opened from 1967 to 1987. I-265 was built in 1972 between I-64 and I-65 and in 1992 east to IN 62.

[ATLRedSoxFan]

Remember that Kentucky's I-265 was originally KY 841, with segments dating to 1959. Portions were opened from 1967 to 1987. I-265 was built in 1972 between I-64 and I-65 and in 1992 east to IN 62.

Yep! I think that was one of those projects that just kind of morphed over time. Indiana's I-265 was built as just a northern connector between I-64 and I-65, kinda a J'ville bypass. It doesn't seem very likely(at least to me), that it was conceived as an overall outter belt for metro Louisville. Maybe H.B.has some insight. My mom was from Corydon area, so as a kid, I frequented the area. Always wondered what was up with that! lol!

[hbelkins]

Remember that Kentucky's I-265 was originally KY 841, with segments dating to 1959. Portions were opened from 1967 to 1987. I-265 was built in 1972 between I-64 and I-65 and in 1992 east to IN 62.

My dad was a frequent traveler to Louisville, even before I was born (in 1961). I'm old enough to remember when the Jefferson Freeway (as it was known back then) ran only between KY 155 and US 60, with a cloverleaf at I-64. My dad talked about how, either before I was born or when I was very young, that I-64 ended at KY 841 and you had to go north and hit US 60 to continue on toward Louisville.

Remember that Kentucky's I-265 was originally KY 841, with segments dating to 1959. Portions were opened from 1967 to 1987. I-265 was built in 1972 between I-64 and I-65 and in 1992 east to IN 62.

Yep! I think that was one of those projects that just kind of morphed over time. Indiana's I-265 was built as just a northern connector between I-64 and I-65, kinda a J'ville bypass. It doesn't seem very likely(at least to me), that it was conceived as an overall outter belt for metro Louisville. Maybe H.B.has some insight. My mom was from Corydon area, so as a kid, I frequented the area. Always wondered what was up with that! lol!

I think I-265 was put on 841 as an afterthought.

Interestingly enough, and a bit reminiscent of the 95/128 situation in Boston, traffic reporters on Louisville radio call it 841 instead of 265, presumably to distinguish it from Indiana's 265.

[silverback1065]

Can anyone that lives in this area comment on this bizzare interchange?  Are the complaints valid? It doesn't appear to be too confusing, but it doesn't seem like they needed to design it this way. http://www.newsandtribune.com/news/indot-to-address-jeffersonville-roundabout-concerns/article_ff91c490-5dd3-11e6-a4cb-9726141071b7.html

[Avalanchez71]

At least it's not after some modern day politician or war folk (looking at you, West Virginia, who has a habit of naming every bridge, culvert and sidewalk after everyone).

Tennessee is the same way.  We don't have omnibus bills with the exception of the bridge/road naming omnibus bills and special interest license plate bils. However, they are the same subject matter.  At any rate I begin to wonder if there is a bridge left to name in the state.

[NWI_Irish96]

Can anyone that lives in this area comment on this bizzare interchange?  Are the complaints valid? It doesn't appear to be too confusing, but it doesn't seem like they needed to design it this way. http://www.newsandtribune.com/news/indot-to-address-jeffersonville-roundabout-concerns/article_ff91c490-5dd3-11e6-a4cb-9726141071b7.html

I drive through there occasionally, and personally I don't have problems.  (I go to Carmel a lot) However, I understand why there are so many problems. 

1) It's the only roundabout in the area that I know of.  Nobody down here is used to regular ones, let alone a more complex one like this

2) There is a lot of truck traffic that goes through from 265 to and from Port Rd.  Not sure if a roundabout is the best idea for an interchange that has an awful lot of truck traffic.

Side note: There are erroneous signs up in at least two places at this interchange pointing to WB 10th St as WB IN 62, when 62 has been routed around Jeffersonville on 265 for a long time now. 

[Avalanchez71]

Did US 31 go through Jeffersonville save the alignment it is now on?

[silverback1065]

Did US 31 go through Jeffersonville save the alignment it is now on?

I think it used hamburg pike and spring street back in the day

[The Ghostbuster]

Now that the two segments of Interstate 265 are completed, will the KY 841 designation be retracted to Exit 10?

[NWI_Irish96]

Did US 31 go through Jeffersonville save the alignment it is now on?

Original alignment upon entering Indiana on the Clark Bridge was Missouri Ave -> Spring Street -> Eastern Blvd -> Kopp Ln

[TR69]

Now that the two segments of Interstate 265 are completed, will the KY 841 designation be retracted to Exit 10?

I was wondering the same thing. I really really really hope so. Having the superfluous state route piggy-backed on I-265 for no reason would bug me.

Unless there *is* a reason to keep it, for some legality.

[thefro]

Can anyone that lives in this area comment on this bizzare interchange?  Are the complaints valid? It doesn't appear to be too confusing, but it doesn't seem like they needed to design it this way. http://www.newsandtribune.com/news/indot-to-address-jeffersonville-roundabout-concerns/article_ff91c490-5dd3-11e6-a4cb-9726141071b7.html

There was a segment on WAVE-3 last night about it.

Looks like a lot of semi trucks that can't make the turns.

[7/8]

2) There is a lot of truck traffic that goes through from 265 to and from Port Rd.  Not sure if a roundabout is the best idea for an interchange that has an awful lot of truck traffic.

I can't speak to this roundabout in particular, as I'm not familiar with it, but I agree that high truck volumes aren't the greatest for roundabouts.

They installed a roundabout in Cambridge, ON at Hespeler Rd and Beaverdale Rd and it sees lots of trucks due to a nearby Loblaw distribution centre. The trucks use the truck apron in the middle to navigate the roundabout, which is okay. But the main issue is that tractor trailers need to straddle both lanes approaching and in the roundabout with their hazards on. Despite the signs, you'll get dumb drivers trying to drive beside the trucks when they're supposed to wait behind them.

In theory, it would be okay if people followed the rules, but some drivers are too impatient, or they're simply not familiar enough with roundabouts.

[GreenLanternCorps]

Looking at the camera feed again and it looks like the span is very close to being completed.

My uneducated* guess is that they have abut 3 sections of bridge left to fill in the center.

http://eastendcrossing.com/project-overview/live-camera-feed/

*I'm not an engineer, am horrble at math, but I do own a DVD of NOVA's "Super Bridge" episode...

[Avalanchez71]

Did the greens try to stop this project?

[NWI_Irish96]

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

[silverback1065]

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

They tried their best to stop it on the kentucky side, by saying a forest was historic or something, so they put a tunnel in.

[ATLRedSoxFan]

Now that the two segments of Interstate 265 are completed, will the KY 841 designation be retracted to Exit 10?

I would guess it would die at the state line.If they even keep it,  just make it a secret designation

[seicer]

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

They tried their best to stop it on the kentucky side, by saying a forest was historic or something, so they put a tunnel in.

Ahem. Wrong.

It was the Drumenard Estate, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

So it wasn't the "greens," and it certainly was not a "forest." It we are going to try to typecast a group as being inherently obtuse, let's at least get the narration right.

[2trailertrucker]

A group did not want the interstate close to them. They thought they had stopped the construction, when the states agreed to dig a tunnel to get around their complaint. BRILLIANT!

[GreenLanternCorps]

One more look at the camera feed, the bridge is missing one last section and it is actually a bridge. 


http://eastendcrossing.com/project-overview/live-camera-feed/

[NWI_Irish96]

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

They tried their best to stop it on the kentucky side, by saying a forest was historic or something, so they put a tunnel in.

Ahem. Wrong.

It was the Drumenard Estate, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

So it wasn't the "greens," and it certainly was not a "forest." It we are going to try to typecast a group as being inherently obtuse, let's at least get the narration right.

That's why I put quotation marks around greens in my reply because that's not actually who it was.

[ATLRedSoxFan]

One more look at the camera feed, the bridge is missing one last section and it is actually a bridge. 
Woohoo!

http://eastendcrossing.com/project-overview/live-camera-feed/

[silverback1065]

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

Did the greens try to stop this project?

The bridge project as a whole, yes, but not specifically the recently-discussed roundabout.

Of course, the "greens" who tried to stop the project were mostly rich NIMBYs who didn't want an influx of non-wealthy people to their precious East End.

They tried their best to stop it on the kentucky side, by saying a forest was historic or something, so they put a tunnel in.

Ahem. Wrong.

It was the Drumenard Estate, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

So it wasn't the "greens," and it certainly was not a "forest." It we are going to try to typecast a group as being inherently obtuse, let's at least get the narration right.

That's why I put quotation marks around greens in my reply because that's not actually who it was.

If you're going by a dictionary definition: a large area covered chiefly with trees and undergrowth.  technically yes it is a forest.

[Avalanchez71]

I asked about the "greens" as in the enviromentlist extermist.  It would be a given that the NIMBY's would be involved.