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thisdj78:

--- Quote from: texaskdog on November 15, 2022, 01:33:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: thisdj78 on November 14, 2022, 06:28:55 PM ---Different topic but Austin related:

Has there ever been any plans to upgrade US183 from the SH45/130 split (south of the airport) to SH71?

Seems like a logical corridor to convert to limited-access at some point.

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wont happen because the alternate is 71 to 130 on the toll road.  The slower 183 is the more people who use the toll road.

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That’s fine for now, but with Tesla in the area….I expect the southeast Austin area and points south to grow at a much faster rate than previous years. That corridor will need a limited access upgrade at some point.

kernals12:

--- Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on November 16, 2022, 12:11:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: kernals12 on November 16, 2022, 08:08:41 AM ---

Womp Womp

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I love more lanes = more traffic guy......where do I start?

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Dunning Krueger Syndrome on full display folks. I can see the thought bubble: "I read an article on Wired saying that adding lanes worsens congestion so I'm smarter than professional highway engineers".

Plutonic Panda:

--- Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on November 16, 2022, 12:11:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: kernals12 on November 16, 2022, 08:08:41 AM ---

Womp Womp

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I love more lanes = more traffic guy......where do I start?

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More traffic is already coming with or without lanes guy. Where do I start?

Anthony_JK:
The worst thing about these fools is not only are they in certain denial about traffic levels on I-35, but they have the myopic belief that converting an already gridlocked 6- to 8- lane freeway with frontage roads into a four lane surface boulevard without even worrying about upgrading or improving any alternative routes such as SH 130 or SH 45 (because bikes and walkways and rail will magically rescue them) will solve all their woes. The real issue is not "more lanes = more traffic"; the issue is an already congested freeway that will simply get worse if no action is done; and most certainly will get worse if limited access is removed just for the sake of vindicating old vendettas about "freeways destroying communities".

Again, I'm all for more balanced transportation alternatives, and for Complete Streets improvements that add walkability and bike ability to upgrade neighborhoods. And we could use more rail based transit here in the US to take the load off the highways. But, tearing down important freeway corridors that serve critical traffic needs just to please some "urban removalists"? HELL TO THE NO.
 

Plutonic Panda:
I almost hate to say it but I kinda would be interested to see the boulevard concept happen just to watch it fail so spectacularly and be a reminder to the rest of the country why that idea is so stupid. As if it needed to be proven in the first place but hey. Just thinking for fun, if they really went with the boulevard, I wonder how long it’d take residents to propose a new freeway tunnel or convert the boulevard back into a freeway.

That’d be a funny show to watch especially since I rarely visit Austin it’d likely never impact me lol

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