Signs With Design Errors

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This sign included?

This one also abbreviates Bridge as Br. Really NYSDOT? 
Bryce

Abbreviating Bridge as Br. is pretty standard.

[Rothman]

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This sign included?

This one also abbreviates Bridge as Br. Really NYSDOT? 
Bryce

Abbreviating Bridge as Br. is pretty standard.

Another snowc special.

I mean, I loathe the APL that many others have noted, but there's nothing notable about the abbreviation for bridge.

[snowc]

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This sign included?

This one also abbreviates Bridge as Br. Really NYSDOT? 
Bryce

Abbreviating Bridge as Br. is pretty standard.

Another snowc special.

I mean, I loathe the APL that many others have noted, but there's nothing notable about the abbreviation for bridge.

So NY does this to all their signs?
Bryce

[kphoger]

I thought for sure I had posted this construction error for US 62 near Flippin, AR

You had, multiple times.  Just not in this thread.

The new highway photograph game [now locked]:

Interesting, ugly or erroneous contractor-installed or temporary signage:

Erroneous road signs:

The Worst of Road Signs [now locked]:

Signs With Design Errors:

[US 89]

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This sign included?

This one also abbreviates Bridge as Br. Really NYSDOT? 
Bryce

Abbreviating Bridge as Br. is pretty standard.

Another snowc special.

I mean, I loathe the APL that many others have noted, but there's nothing notable about the abbreviation for bridge.

So NY does this to all their signs?
Bryce

I mean, there are probably some signs in NY that spell it out...but that's a really common abbreviation that you'll see plenty outside of NY, too. Like this sign at the east end of I-80 in NJ.

[US71]

WOW!I wish I had as much time as kphoger does so I could spend all day looking for reasons to attack people.  </s>

[kphoger]

Didn't mean it as an attack.  Just wanted to let you know you weren't going crazy, and that you hadn't posted it yet in this thread.

[US71]

Didn't mean it as an attack.  Just wanted to let you know you weren't going crazy, and that you hadn't posted it yet in this thread.

When you post in public it sounds like an attack to me.  You can always PM me or call the mods on me but dirty laundry in public is so gauche.


Now, where was I?  Oh, that's right: Barcelona.

[Rothman]

Didn't mean it as an attack.  Just wanted to let you know you weren't going crazy, and that you hadn't posted it yet in this thread.

When you post in public it sounds like an attack to me.  You can always PM me or call the mods on me but dirty laundry in public is so gauche.


Now, where was I?  Oh, that's right: Barcelona.

I like the idea of photos of road signs being dirty laundry.

[kphoger]

I like the idea of photos of road signs being dirty laundry.

I like the idea of photos of dirty laundry on road signs.

[Big John]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMa77NSCWK8

[roadfro]

I would assume from that sign that both routes go west from this exit. Would that assumption be wrong in this case?

Technically, I believe you could even drop the WEST designation from the overhead, as SR-15 West is LEAVING its brief multiplex with I-75 North.

You could also add a 2nd control city to represent US-224 East:  Either DOWNTOWN Findlay, or even Lodi (as Findlay is a control city for US-224 West at I-71 in Lodi).

This is on SOUTHbound I-75, so the "West" designation is needed for OH-15 as its eastbound multiplex with I-75 begins here.

I wasn't clear in my first post.  At I-75, both routes go west and US-224 also goes east (no multiplex with I-75).  But the way this sign is designed, one might think there is a different exit farther ahead for eastbound US-224, just as there is a different exit for OH-15.

I would also interpret this as both routes going west. This is a byproduct of most of my driving occurring in Nevada, where we always put the directional to the right of a shield on BGSs like this. But we don't have any instances of the above situation where multiplexed routes go in more than one cardinal direction off an exit. And also, except for the brief overlap of US 50 on I-580/US 395 in Carson City, all our routes with freeway overlaps are N/S, so there's no ambiguity.

[wanderer2575]

I would assume from that sign that both routes go west from this exit. Would that assumption be wrong in this case?

Technically, I believe you could even drop the WEST designation from the overhead, as SR-15 West is LEAVING its brief multiplex with I-75 North.

You could also add a 2nd control city to represent US-224 East:  Either DOWNTOWN Findlay, or even Lodi (as Findlay is a control city for US-224 West at I-71 in Lodi).

This is on SOUTHbound I-75, so the "West" designation is needed for OH-15 as its eastbound multiplex with I-75 begins here.

I wasn't clear in my first post.  At I-75, both routes go west and US-224 also goes east (no multiplex with I-75).  But the way this sign is designed, one might think there is a different exit farther ahead for eastbound US-224, just as there is a different exit for OH-15.

I would also interpret this as both routes going west. This is a byproduct of most of my driving occurring in Nevada, where we always put the directional to the right of a shield on BGSs like this. But we don't have any instances of the above situation where multiplexed routes go in more than one cardinal direction off an exit. And also, except for the brief overlap of US 50 on I-580/US 395 in Carson City, all our routes with freeway overlaps are N/S, so there's no ambiguity.

You are still misunderstanding me.  Yes, both routes go west.  The issue is:  If one wants EASTbound US-224, should one exit here, or continue on the freeway and expect a different exit for that farther along?

The fact is this exit is for BOTH directions of US-224.  Turn right at the top of the ramp for westbound 224 and 15; turn left for eastbound 224.  But the sign is not clear about the latter.  The WEST banner should be positioned above the OH-15 shield or the shield order should be switched to read OH-15 WEST / US-224.  That would make clear the WEST banner applies only to OH-15.

[roadfro]

I would assume from that sign that both routes go west from this exit. Would that assumption be wrong in this case?

Technically, I believe you could even drop the WEST designation from the overhead, as SR-15 West is LEAVING its brief multiplex with I-75 North.

You could also add a 2nd control city to represent US-224 East:  Either DOWNTOWN Findlay, or even Lodi (as Findlay is a control city for US-224 West at I-71 in Lodi).

This is on SOUTHbound I-75, so the "West" designation is needed for OH-15 as its eastbound multiplex with I-75 begins here.

I wasn't clear in my first post.  At I-75, both routes go west and US-224 also goes east (no multiplex with I-75).  But the way this sign is designed, one might think there is a different exit farther ahead for eastbound US-224, just as there is a different exit for OH-15.

I would also interpret this as both routes going west. This is a byproduct of most of my driving occurring in Nevada, where we always put the directional to the right of a shield on BGSs like this. But we don't have any instances of the above situation where multiplexed routes go in more than one cardinal direction off an exit. And also, except for the brief overlap of US 50 on I-580/US 395 in Carson City, all our routes with freeway overlaps are N/S, so there's no ambiguity.

You are still misunderstanding me.  Yes, both routes go west.  The issue is:  If one wants EASTbound US-224, should one exit here, or continue on the freeway and expect a different exit for that farther along?

The fact is this exit is for BOTH directions of US-224.  Turn right at the top of the ramp for westbound 224 and 15; turn left for eastbound 224.  But the sign is not clear about the latter.  The WEST banner should be positioned above the OH-15 shield or the shield order should be switched to read OH-15 WEST / US-224.  That would make clear the WEST banner applies only to OH-15.

Oh, I wasn't misunderstanding you...perhaps I should have been more clear. My interpretation would be that this exit is just for US 224 west, because that is how things are signed in Nevada and we don't have any situations like this. Without GPS or having familiarity from a review of maps, I wouldn't be expecting to take this exit for US 224 east from the sign alone.

[JoePCool14]

Another Oklahoma special on the Kickapoo Turnpike:

https://goo.gl/maps/DM9t6RRXaDzaNDTb9

Left justified text, random slash, wrong arrow.

[Hobart]

I have to drive on Cline Avenue North for work every day.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5850123,-87.4327034,3a,27.3y,9.02h,92.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sagX0P5IHp1T8dFuqNBRYRA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This sign omits the arrow for the exit. I'm not sure if it needs to be there, but there's definitely something missing.

[Scott5114]

Another Oklahoma special on the Kickapoo Turnpike:

https://goo.gl/maps/DM9t6RRXaDzaNDTb9

Left justified text, random slash, wrong arrow.

A brand-new OTA Special™, from the Kickapoo Turnpike:


"Jim, I can't remember, are we supposed to use a slash or a line break to separate two different messages on the same sign?"
"I dunno, just put both"
"Is the text supposed to be left aligned, or centered?"
"no"

[PurdueBill]

I have to drive on Cline Avenue North for work every day.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5850123,-87.4327034,3a,27.3y,9.02h,92.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sagX0P5IHp1T8dFuqNBRYRA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This sign omits the arrow for the exit. I'm not sure if it needs to be there, but there's definitely something missing.

Seems to be a thing that happens sometimes but I don't get how the sign at the exit can have no arrow at all.
https://goo.gl/maps/txZuHrgF3vq63R5i6
https://goo.gl/maps/WbSvefP3HajXau9C9 (Construction patched, but others patched in the vicinity where there is a lane drop like this were properly patched with EXIT ONLY and an arrow)


A few old signs on I-77 in Akron were missing arrows where they were supposed to be (with space for them like the IN 912 one, but nothing there); it is too much of a coincidence for them to just have fallen off over time.
https://goo.gl/maps/YVQmrQS6FgJarFHc7 
https://goo.gl/maps/bBZqxx43RqtBMbvV7

[JoePCool14]

Another Oklahoma special on the Kickapoo Turnpike:

https://goo.gl/maps/DM9t6RRXaDzaNDTb9

Left justified text, random slash, wrong arrow.

A brand-new OTA Special™, from the Kickapoo Turnpike:


"Jim, I can't remember, are we supposed to use a slash or a line break to separate two different messages on the same sign?"
"I dunno, just put both"
"Is the text supposed to be left aligned, or centered?"
"no"

Should've known...

[wanderer2575]

A brand-new OTA Special™, from the Kickapoo Turnpike:


"Jim, I can't remember, are we supposed to use a slash or a line break to separate two different messages on the same sign?"
"I dunno, just put both"
"Is the text supposed to be left aligned, or centered?"
"no"

Maybe it's like a movie credit, where the star's name on the second line is farther to the left so it appears both stars have equal billing:  http://i.ibb.co/T8P2Xbv/TISMPN.png

[SignBridge]

I have to drive on Cline Avenue North for work every day.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5850123,-87.4327034,3a,27.3y,9.02h,92.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sagX0P5IHp1T8dFuqNBRYRA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This sign omits the arrow for the exit. I'm not sure if it needs to be there, but there's definitely something missing.

Seems to be a thing that happens sometimes but I don't get how the sign at the exit can have no arrow at all.
https://goo.gl/maps/txZuHrgF3vq63R5i6
https://goo.gl/maps/WbSvefP3HajXau9C9 (Construction patched, but others patched in the vicinity where there is a lane drop like this were properly patched with EXIT ONLY and an arrow)


A few old signs on I-77 in Akron were missing arrows where they were supposed to be (with space for them like the IN 912 one, but nothing there); it is too much of a coincidence for them to just have fallen off over time.
https://goo.gl/maps/YVQmrQS6FgJarFHc7 
https://goo.gl/maps/bBZqxx43RqtBMbvV7

I'm guessing somebody screwed up in these cases of the omitted arrow. Either it was left out of the engineering specs or the builder didn't follow the specs. I've seen it happen in other states too.

[kirbykart]

Bump to showcase this beauty in Salamanca, NY.

[Scott5114]

Bump to showcase this beauty in Salamanca, NY.

The margins are a fraction of an inch too tight, but other than that, that's 100% MUTCD compliant.

[PurdueBill]

Bump to showcase this beauty in Salamanca, NY.

The margins are a fraction of an inch too tight, but other than that, that's 100% MUTCD compliant.

The fonts are wonky somehow though.  CITY OF looks bold, while the city name is so tight in narrow letters.

[Scott5114]

Bump to showcase this beauty in Salamanca, NY.

The margins are a fraction of an inch too tight, but other than that, that's 100% MUTCD compliant.

The fonts are wonky somehow though.  CITY OF looks bold, while the city name is so tight in narrow letters.

That's just what happens when you put Series E(M) and Series B on the same sign. You rarely see them combined, but there's no actual error in doing so.