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Started by Chris, June 21, 2009, 02:55:07 PM

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Revive 755



Revive 755

MoDOT has put up a brief website regarding rehabilitation of the eastern double deck section on US 40:
http://www.modot.gov/stlouis/major_projects/I-64DoubleDeckRehabilitationProject.htm

The closures for this project will surely do wonders for the already overloaded I-55 PSB ramps.

kharvey10

This area sees way too many full weekend closures as is right now.  Used to be a MoDOT thing in STL, now IDiOT is pulling the same old stunts with weekend closures.

kharvey10

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ewg_rtp2040

EW Gateway doing another survey about transportation future of St. Louis

ShawnP

#54
Interesting article about Ice on the Mississippi River at St. Louis. Good picture of bridges by Alton, Illinois.

Post Merge: February 10, 2011, 02:10:51 AM

Also some interesting shunpiking going on over the years.

Revive 755

#55
Quote from: ShawnP on February 06, 2011, 01:23:48 PM
Interesting article about Ice on the Mississippi River at St. Louis. Good picture of bridges by Alton, Illinois.

This article?
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/article_2172efb3-0ec9-559c-b708-e4a8faa06481.html

EDIT:  Here's an old article about the MacArthur Bridge becoming toll free due to competition from the PSB:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=-mkfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=FdUEAAAAIBAJ&dq=poplar-street-bridge&pg=1370%2C4327415

ShawnP

#56
Thought it was neat that people would take a dangerous trip on the ice to avoid a toll.

Post Merge: February 10, 2011, 02:10:45 AM

Yeah I forgot the linky thing.........

kharvey10

http://www.route66university.com/maps/mo_stl-sprfld.pdf

Old map of St. Louis before they built the interstates. 

http://www.route66university.com/maps/mo_stl-spr_69.pdf

Map in 1969 (note the proposed alignments of I-64 and I-255)

kharvey10

MoDOT planning a public hearing over the Highway 40 double deck section repairs today from 1 to 4 at St. Louis City Hall

http://www.modot.mo.gov/stlouis/news_and_information/District6News.shtml?action=displaySSI&newsId=65840

Also more details in the upcoming Blanchette Bridge rebuild here: http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-blanchette-bridge-closure-looming-20110222,0,2689412.story


kharvey10


Revive 755


kharvey10

MoDOT admitting they wasted a million dollars on that??  That project was full of epic fail.  Last month they set the speed limit to 40 mph the morning after a ice storm event and cars were still crashing all over 270 in South County.  Here is MoDOT undoing another one of Pete Rahn's dirty tricks.

ShawnP

Pete Rahn did more damage to MODOT than he did good. His Pratical design's so made me mad. That and his lowering of pavement standards (for instance I-435 around KCI was repaved in August of 08 and had potholes by December of 08).

kharvey10

first variable speed limit sign westbound 255 - note the addition of the 270 shield, as MoDOT treats their part of the 270/255 loop as if it is the same highway

another example of Pete Rahn failure was the Highway 40 rebuild in St. Louis.  I would added the Great Lemon Bridge to one of his failures but he didn't stick around for construction to start.

Scott5114

What was wrong with the I-64 rebuild?

(I am of the opinion that still calling it Highway 40 is silly)
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

ShawnP

It has narrow shoulders and in some areas appears to have been built on the cheapie, cheap.

Sykotyk

Shoulders seemed wide when I drove it, except for the old westbound bridge over the Mississippi that is absurdly narrow.

kharvey10

the westbound span predated the interstate highway system, it was built in the 1930s.  They restriped the lanes in both directions sometime in 2002-2003.  The westbound span has a reduced speed limit but nobody obeys it. 

It is not uncommon to see night and weekend full closures of the westbound span for maintenance.

And go look at MoDOT press releases - when they talk about the Boone Bridge they refer it at 40/61.  Anything else its 64.

And for more fun and games: neither the Chain of Rocks and Poplar Street Bridges have shoulders.  If you break down on either bridge you are SOL and I know that for a fact cause I known peeps that have.  The Poplar has 24/7 emergency towing, but break down on the Chain of Rocks you are screwed.

Revive 755

Quote from: Scott5114 on March 16, 2011, 10:06:52 AM
What was wrong with the I-64 rebuild?

1) Not widening the highway between I-170 and Skinker - though this is more the fault of the Metropolitan Planning Organization than MoDOT's, since the whole Cross County MTIA which this decision was based on was royally defective.

2) The area around I-170 is lacking - Brentwood and Hanley should have been SPUI's.  The whole section should have been designed so a driver heading eastbound wishing to exit at Hanley did not have to go through a stoplight at Brentwood.  In addition, SB I-170 traffic should be able to access the C-D road to access Hanley, not have to use stoplight infested Eager or go through the Brentwood/Eager intersection.

3) The addition of sound walls west of Spoede Road when nothing was done to this section other than give it a fresh coat of asphalt - the hills on this section were supposed to have been cut down.

4) (Strong personal bias) More should have been done with this project to help fix the Skinker/Clayton/Oakland disaster - could have gone with a half diamond east/north of Oakland or broken Oakland up into a one-way pair or something.

Revive 755


Revive 755

IDOT has added one new ground mounted sign on WB I-55/70 for I-255 inside the IL 157 interchange, and seems to have changed at least one of other signs for I-255 to a diagramtic version.  Couldn't get a good look due to the wonderful weather and trying to figure out what all the brake riding was for.

kharvey10

Quote from: Revive 755 on March 26, 2011, 07:44:04 PM
IDOT has added one new ground mounted sign on WB I-55/70 for I-255 inside the IL 157 interchange, and seems to have changed at least one of other signs for I-255 to a diagramtic version.  Couldn't get a good look due to the wonderful weather and trying to figure out what all the brake riding was for.

Looks like IDOT did it last week, I was through there last weekend and didn't see any changes at all.

kharvey10

#73
http://www.stltoday.com/news/traffic/along-for-the-ride/article_b0881271-e510-5c1c-9059-d23896855b9a.html?mode=story

This one got some details about the so called confusion of the 270/255 loop (hint read some of the juicy comments aimed all at MoDOT and not at IDiOT)

also, MoDOT and IDiOT is up to their dirty weekend tricks again.  In time for april fools day, they're doing another full weekend closure on 55/70 from the 64 split to 203, making traffic to detour on sections of 64 and 255 that both got a lane down for construction.  MoDOT is also restricting lanes on Highway 40 over the Boone Bridge over the Missouri River.

http://www.dot.state.il.us/road/closures.txt - read the press release fail, they listed the wrong Friday for the closing.  Its actually April 8. 

edit reason: corrected date of the weekend closure IDiOT other st louis website stl-traffic.org lists the correct dates.

UptownRoadGeek

Why are the left lanes on various STL freeways concrete with the remaining lanes asphalt? Are these the result of shoulder to lane conversions or what..



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