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Title: US 29/US 129/US 441 Interchange
Post by: Georgia Guardrail on August 01, 2022, 11:01:28 PM
Anybody know what they are doing at this interchange in Athens?  I'm assuming a bridge replacement.  Any other interchange modifications for this project?  I can't find the project listed anywhere. 

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Title: Re: US 29/US 129/US 441 Interchange
Post by: ran4sh on August 02, 2022, 12:41:12 AM
Yeah, just a bridge replacement. Supposedly they considered reconfiguring the interchange, but for whatever reason decided not to do so.

There are a few posts in the main Georgia topic about it
Title: Re: US 29/US 129/US 441 Interchange
Post by: Tom958 on August 02, 2022, 05:13:07 AM
Bridge replacement, except the ramps will have to be regraded because the bridges are being raised because coming up with bridge designs that are appropriate to the site instead of using AASHTO beams out of a catalog is just too hard. I emailed them as part of their "virtual public hearing," but of course there was no reply.

GDOT arrogance and stupidity in action.
Title: Re: US 29/US 129/US 441 Interchange
Post by: The Ghostbuster on August 02, 2022, 06:40:48 PM
Why was the Athens Perimeter converted to mileage-based exits in 2000 with the Interstates, when GA 400, the Stone Mountain Freeway, the Liberty Expressway, and the J.R. Allen Parkway all remained sequential? It makes no sense to me. In my opinion, those other routes should have been converted as well, and still should.
Title: Re: US 29/US 129/US 441 Interchange
Post by: ran4sh on August 02, 2022, 09:53:51 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 02, 2022, 06:40:48 PM
Why was the Athens Perimeter converted to mileage-based exits in 2000 with the Interstates, when GA 400, the Stone Mountain Freeway, the Liberty Expressway, and the J.R. Allen Parkway all remained sequential? It makes no sense to me. In my opinion, those other routes should have been converted as well, and still should.

It was never converted per se as it had never had sequential numbers. Before 1999 it had no exit numbering at all. In 1999 exit numbers were added beginning with 1 at SR 316 and increasing clockwise per the MUTCD.

In 2004 it was reversed to have the numbering increase counterclockwise, with GDOT never officially saying why, but I suspect it was to reduce confusion for the stretch of 10 Loop that is used by most visitors to Athens, i.e. from SR 316 to the College Station Rd and US 78 exits to access the UGA campus and/or downtown Athens. With the MUTCD-style clockwise numbers, that traffic would have seen exits 1 followed by 17, 15, 14, 13; with counterclockwise numbering those exits are 1 followed by 4, 6, 7, 8 which are actually in order.