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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

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formulanone

US 411 shield in Pigeon Forge, where a US 441 shield should be.

https://goo.gl/maps/MPa1vynZNXSUC1x17

US 411 isn't that far away, so it seems like a simple mix-up.


MATraveler128

Not sure if this belongs here, but this is a sign I pass on my way to school every week. This is Summit Street in Peabody, Massachusetts at the 128 interchange. It tells you to take 128 south to get to NH, Maine. There should be an I-95 shield. I know the locals call it 128, but it doesn’t even get close to a state line.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5283087,-70.9575931,3a,88.4y,217.35h,81.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spVVmXYiLgTxVqjvjKnctCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

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Hunty2022

Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2022, 02:53:41 PM
US 411 shield in Pigeon Forge, where a US 441 shield should be.

https://goo.gl/maps/MPa1vynZNXSUC1x17
The sign was correct before 2020/21, I don't know why they would replace it with an erroneous one.
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sprjus4

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on April 09, 2022, 10:44:05 AM
Not sure if this belongs here, but this is a sign I pass on my way to school every week. This is Summit Street in Peabody, Massachusetts at the 128 interchange. It tells you to take 128 south to get to NH, Maine. There should be an I-95 shield. I know the locals call it 128, but it doesn't even get close to a state line.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5283087,-70.9575931,3a,88.4y,217.35h,81.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spVVmXYiLgTxVqjvjKnctCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
To I-95 at the most. That section of MA-128 is independent of I-95 at that location.

MATraveler128

Quote from: sprjus4 on April 09, 2022, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on April 09, 2022, 10:44:05 AM
Not sure if this belongs here, but this is a sign I pass on my way to school every week. This is Summit Street in Peabody, Massachusetts at the 128 interchange. It tells you to take 128 south to get to NH, Maine. There should be an I-95 shield. I know the locals call it 128, but it doesn't even get close to a state line.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5283087,-70.9575931,3a,88.4y,217.35h,81.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spVVmXYiLgTxVqjvjKnctCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
To I-95 at the most. That section of MA-128 is independent of I-95 at that location.

I know it's independent there, but maybe NH, Maine isn't the best control point to use there. Waltham would make more sense. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the paddle sign should read 128 south to I-95 NH/Maine, Boston
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

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formulanone

Quote from: Hunty2022 on April 09, 2022, 11:08:30 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2022, 02:53:41 PM
US 411 shield in Pigeon Forge, where a US 441 shield should be.

https://goo.gl/maps/MPa1vynZNXSUC1x17
The sign was correct before 2020/21, I don't know why they would replace it with an erroneous one.


Someone probably ran over the sign, so the DOT division quickly grabbed one from existing stock without checking twice.

hbelkins

Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2022, 02:53:41 PM
US 411 shield in Pigeon Forge, where a US 441 shield should be.

https://goo.gl/maps/MPa1vynZNXSUC1x17

US 411 isn't that far away, so it seems like a simple mix-up.

For years, back when US 411 ran to Bristol, Gousha maps incorrectly identified one of the concurrencies (either 11E/19/411 or 11E/19W/411) as US 441.

The 411/441 concurrency in Sevier County is interesting. Not only are the numbers similar, but it's a wrong-way concurrency. Northbound on 411 is southbound on 441, and vice-versa.


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formulanone

Quote from: hbelkins on April 10, 2022, 09:00:17 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2022, 02:53:41 PM
US 411 shield in Pigeon Forge, where a US 441 shield should be.

https://goo.gl/maps/MPa1vynZNXSUC1x17

US 411 isn't that far away, so it seems like a simple mix-up.

For years, back when US 411 ran to Bristol, Gousha maps incorrectly identified one of the concurrencies (either 11E/19/411 or 11E/19W/411) as US 441.

The 411/441 concurrency in Sevier County is interesting. Not only are the numbers similar, but it's a wrong-way concurrency. Northbound on 411 is southbound on 441, and vice-versa.

If I had nothing to do with this hobby, I would initially declare it as the machinations of a very bureaucratic evil:


Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on April 09, 2022, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on April 09, 2022, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on April 09, 2022, 10:44:05 AM
Not sure if this belongs here, but this is a sign I pass on my way to school every week. This is Summit Street in Peabody, Massachusetts at the 128 interchange. It tells you to take 128 south to get to NH, Maine. There should be an I-95 shield. I know the locals call it 128, but it doesn't even get close to a state line.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5283087,-70.9575931,3a,88.4y,217.35h,81.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spVVmXYiLgTxVqjvjKnctCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
To I-95 at the most. That section of MA-128 is independent of I-95 at that location.

I know it's independent there, but maybe NH, Maine isn't the best control point to use there. Waltham would make more sense. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the paddle sign should read 128 south to I-95 NH/Maine, Boston

Also, for consistency purposes, NH/Maine could be replaced by "Portsmouth, NH"  like all of the 95 signage noe shows.

roadman65

This one
here lists the next 4 exits as for the City of Ukiah on US 101 North.

The problem is the fourth exit mentioned is for a dead end road that only serves a short dead end frontage road, a water treatment plant, and a baseball complex.  The fourth and final exit according to this sign is not connected to the city street grid in anyway as River Street goes nowhere beyond the services that are at that particular exit.

Though it is within the city limits, its easy to deduct that in the interest of motorists looking for parts of the city from the freeway, it is not really an exit worth noting.
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SD Mapman

Not sure what WYDOT or the contractor was thinking here...



I don't think I-25 takes McKinley Street through Casper...
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kphoger

This seems rather... umm... ingenuous.

Chester, IL
On the ramp leading down from the Mississippi River bridge to the truck bypass

RUNAWAY TRUCK RAMP AHEAD
Runaway Truck Ramp ↗
And here's the actual "truck ramp"...
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
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ClassicHasClass

You don't understand. They're supposed to keep going through the guard rail into the river.

ozarkman417

The engineers that created these signs are desperately trying to convince themselves that Illinois isn't flat.

kphoger

Quote from: ozarkman417 on May 13, 2022, 12:42:00 AM
The engineers that created these signs are desperately trying to convince themselves that Illinois isn't flat.

Ha.  You should try driving in Chester during a winter snow storm sometime.

Back when I drove a delivery route in southern Illinois, one my fellow drivers had that route during a nasty ice storm.  He was inching down this hill, approaching the stop sign at IL-150.  He slowed to a stop and then, with his foot firmly planted on the brake pedal and the brakes still fully engaged, the box truck simply started sliding on down the hill into the intersection.  Nothing he could do about it.  Fortunately, there was no wreck.

(I had a similar situation that day, but in a much flatter part of the state.  Back when this road on the outskirts of Centralia still had open drainage (visible in the GSV shot), it had quite the domed cross-section and quite the drop-off into the ditch, as well as a surface that was mostly tar with some bits of gravel thrown in every so often for kicks.  I needed to make a right turn at the stop sign in that GSV shot, but cars had been sliding off the pavement, police officers were out, and traffic was at a crawl.  While I was stopped waiting–with my foot firmly planted on the brake pedal and the brakes still fully engaged, my box truck started sliding sideways toward the ditch.  Fortunately, right then, the path ahead of me opened up, and I was able to start moving forward again and make my turn.)
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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SectorZ

Quote from: kphoger on May 12, 2022, 05:52:58 PM
This seems rather... umm... ingenuous.

Chester, IL
On the ramp leading down from the Mississippi River bridge to the truck bypass

RUNAWAY TRUCK RAMP AHEAD
Runaway Truck Ramp ↗
And here's the actual "truck ramp"...

Imagine getting to the bottom and your truck is out of control and someone from Illinois is sitting there parked in it, dashcam running, yelling at you that you're using the runaway truck ramp incorrectly.

kphoger

Quote from: SectorZ on May 13, 2022, 09:34:32 AM
Imagine getting to the bottom and your truck is out of control and someone from Illinois is sitting there parked in it, dashcam running, yelling at you that you're using the runaway truck ramp incorrectly.

:-D   That sort of person never even goes to Randolph County.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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roadman65

#4992
This here is not only erroneous, but impossible as well.

The I-45 South the sign refers to doesn’t have an access ramp before it’s termination to even access it. 

Look on Google.
https://goo.gl/maps/aB8q3gnLMpkD3TgX9
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Sheryl Crowe

kphoger

#4993
Quote from: roadman65 on May 18, 2022, 09:48:46 AM
This here is not only erroneous, but impossible as well.



The I-45 South the sign refers to doesn't have an access ramp before it's termination to even access it. 

Look on Google.
https://goo.gl/maps/aB8q3gnLMpkD3TgX9

According to the TxDOT dataset map, I-45 ends at 59th Street.

Therefore, as I see it, that sign does technically lead to the southernmost ≈350 feet of I-45.   :)
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
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Male pronouns, please.

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roadman65

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52096913656_119a5660b5_k.jpg



The direction header for US 90 is wrong as well as the control city of West Theodore.  Should be US 90 WEST to Theodore.
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kphoger

Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

roadman65

Looks fine right?
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52163518694_b8b8f05e3a_k.jpg


However the US 84 doesn't belong here.

The location of this assembly is here.
https://goo.gl/maps/T4W8vGRxNjkms8ao8

It's past the point US 84 leaves US 231 and AL 210.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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roadfro

Quote from: roadman65 on June 21, 2022, 01:26:49 PM
Looks fine right?
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52163518694_b8b8f05e3a_k.jpg


Can't tell... Photo is not showing up and the link is giving me a 410 file not found error.
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kphoger

It was there earlier...
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.



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