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AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« on: November 19, 2014, 02:47:17 AM »

I figured that I'd start this thread, as the meeting is occuring tomorrow. Do we know of any changes yet?
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2014, 02:51:39 AM »

Probably more Interstate Oinky-nine in Texas.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2014, 11:05:42 AM »

AASHTO never put what they are discussing until after the meeting - expect something Friday morning at the earliest (IIRC from last time).

I'd imagine AZ future I-11 (in a similar form to NV's spring application) would be in there.

Is it too early for NC I-885 to be applied for? Then again, they like future designations.

I-69 in downtown Houston is pretty much a certainty. And perhaps more, though I'm not sure what is built and not designated.

Perhaps LA's application for I-49 north has helped them see that they could probably successfully apply for completed portions of I-49 south, especially the renumbering of I-910.

On top of that there will be the usual minor tweaks to US routes and something surprising (there typically is), though that might be I-885 or I-49 South.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 11:31:59 AM »

Raise your hand if you think and/or fear we're getting more suffixed numbers...
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2014, 11:38:20 AM »

Raise your hand if you think and/or fear we're getting more suffixed numbers...

Raising it, and thanks TxDOT for adding more suffixed numbers.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 11:42:38 AM »

AASHTO never put what they are discussing until after the meeting - expect something Friday morning at the earliest (IIRC from last time) ...
I-69 in downtown Houston is pretty much a certainty. And perhaps more, though I'm not sure what is built and not designated.

AASHTO granted conditional approval pending FHWA approval for the I-69 in downtown Houston segment at the May 29 meeting.  Simply waiting on FHWA ......................

Interestingly, FHWA has approved the I-69E and I-69C segments that AASHTO approved on May 29 and the Texas Transportation Commission will probably approve those two segments on November 20.

FHWA and the Texas Transportation Commission have both approved the May 29 I-69W segment.

Regarding new Texas I-69 approvals, if anything, maybe AASHTO will approve part of I-69E south of and/or in Kenedy County.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 12:45:34 PM »

I wonder if NY will finally get around to submitting a request for I-86 from NY 17K to I-84 where the signs are covered up.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2014, 02:58:57 PM »

Interested to see what will come out of the meeting.

Also, I actually think suffixed US Highways are kinda cool (for example: US 11W & 11E in northeast Tennessee), but I'm not as huge of a fan of suffixed interstates. I hope this trend I-69 started doesn't continue. Or at least don't do something like I-69C. If we're gonna do suffixed interstates why not just leave it with just "W" and "E" (or "N and "S").
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2014, 03:13:17 PM »

Interested to see what will come out of the meeting.

Also, I actually think suffixed US Highways are kinda cool (for example: US 11W & 11E in northeast Tennessee), but I'm not as huge of a fan of suffixed interstates. I hope this trend I-69 started doesn't continue. Or at least don't do something like I-69C. If we're gonna do suffixed interstates why not just leave it with just "W" and "E" (or "N and "S").

I think you're going to be disappointed when you see the approval for the new I-99Q in downtown Altoona. Just kidding.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2014, 03:30:02 PM »

Interstate auxiliaries of I-69 coming soon in Texas:

I-69U

I-69EIEIO

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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2014, 04:33:54 PM »

For North Carolina, likely the following:
  • US 74 Bypass - Shelby
  • US 74 Bypass - Monroe (Toll)
  • US 158 Reroute south around Riedsville
  • I-485 (northeast section, opening next year)
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2014, 05:14:58 PM »

Interstate auxiliaries of I-69 coming soon in Texas:

I-69U

I-69EIEIO

-69+I

Add I-sqrt69 and I-log69 to that :sombrero:.

Personally I see something about I-11 in this meeting. This appears to go ahead, unlike the central section of I-74.

BTW, I've witnessed some renumbering in my part of the world lately...
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2014, 05:27:21 PM »

I'm curious when I-95 north of Trenton and I-295 north of Exit 60 are renumbered to I-195. I'd probably assume that'll happen in... 5 years at the rate of progress shown by PennDOT (or was it the PTC?).
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2014, 07:34:19 PM »

I'm curious when I-95 north of Trenton and I-295 north of Exit 60 are renumbered to I-195. I'd probably assume that'll happen in... 5 years at the rate of progress shown by PennDOT (or was it the PTC?).

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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2014, 07:47:27 PM »

I'm curious when I-95 north of Trenton and I-295 north of Exit 60 are renumbered to I-195. I'd probably assume that'll happen in... 5 years at the rate of progress shown by PennDOT (or was it the PTC?).
It was approved in 2007...
http://route.transportation.org/Documents/USRN_Report_May42007_mv.pdf
http://route.transportation.org/Documents/PA_NJ_RelocateI-95_FHWA_Decision.pdf
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2014, 08:03:07 PM »

Personally I see something about I-11 in this meeting. This appears to go ahead, unlike the central section of I-74.

They don't need AASHTO approval for I-74; it's future designation already exist thanks to Congress... if states approve of it or not.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2014, 10:11:09 AM »

They got the Spring meeting up the next day, it's now the third working day afterwards and still nothing.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2014, 11:24:08 AM »

Not up yet, but:
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2014, 11:33:59 AM »

Now up http://route.transportation.org/Documents/USRN%20Report%20to%20SCOH%20AM2014.pdf

AR US62 BUS - new route in Prarie Grove, and relocation of US62
AR US63 BUS - new route in Hardy, and relocation of US63
AR US63 BUS - route eliminated in Jonesboro
GA US19/129 - relocated around Blairsville
IL I-490 - (conditional approval, not yet built)
NJ/PA I-95 - withdrawn
TN US641 - extended from I-40 to US64 (45 miles)
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 11:49:34 AM »

Business US 1 in Massachusetts?
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 12:02:30 PM »

Business US 1 in Massachusetts?
No, it's US Bike Route 1 in Massachusetts that was approved.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2014, 12:04:47 PM »

Ah, I see. 
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2014, 12:22:30 PM »

Yay. Now we wait for the detailed applications.

Also, I could see a future continuation of US 641 to Florence.

In the meantime, if anyone besides me cares how they routed USBR 1 and USBR 90 in Florida (it's pretty boring): http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/policy/usbr/
USBR 1 is essentially A1A where possible, except that it avoids Cocoa Beach via SR 404 and sticks to US 1 between Fort Pierce and West Palm.
USBR 90 is US 90 except east of Lake City, where it follows SR 100-207-206 to the coast. USBR 90A follows US 90 through Pensacola, with USBR 90 on US 90A.
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2014, 01:12:57 PM »

Now up http://route.transportation.org/Documents/USRN%20Report%20to%20SCOH%20AM2014.pdf

AR US62 BUS - new route in Prarie Grove, and relocation of US62
AR US63 BUS - new route in Hardy, and relocation of US63
AR US63 BUS - route eliminated in Jonesboro
GA US19/129 - relocated around Blairsville
IL I-490 - (conditional approval, not yet built)
NJ/PA I-95 - withdrawn
TN US641 - extended from I-40 to US64 (45 miles)

Not a whole lot here, a bit of a let-down.  :-/
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Re: AASHTO Numbering Changes--November 20, 2014
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2014, 01:27:04 PM »

Regarding the NJ/PA 95 - Withdrawn - What was actually withdrawn? 
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