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Started by Alex, February 04, 2009, 12:22:16 AM

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Takumi

Not a bit surprising. I can't see the Powhite extension ever happening either, just due to the development where it and Old Hundred Road would split. Driving the recently opened Woolridge Road extension, however, there seems to be a break in the trees about where it's proposed to go.
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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: Takumi on May 08, 2018, 11:13:43 AM
Not a bit surprising. I can't see the Powhite extension ever happening either, just due to the development where it and Old Hundred Road would split. Driving the recently opened Woolridge Road extension, however, there seems to be a break in the trees about where it's proposed to go.

Wouldn't surprise me if the plan for the Woolridge Road extension project called for that break since, at least as of right now, the Powhite extension is still part of the thoroughfare plan. Based on how development looks in the county right now, extending Powhite would likely run into problems past Genito Road since Woodlake is built out so much. It could probably get around Brandermill, but Brandermill-related development's starting to sneak to the north of Old Hundred Road.
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Beltway

What exactly would the East-West Freeway accomplish other than open up a corridor of land for large-scale development?
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Takumi

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 08, 2018, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: Takumi on May 08, 2018, 11:13:43 AM
Not a bit surprising. I can't see the Powhite extension ever happening either, just due to the development where it and Old Hundred Road would split. Driving the recently opened Woolridge Road extension, however, there seems to be a break in the trees about where it's proposed to go.

Wouldn't surprise me if the plan for the Woolridge Road extension project called for that break since, at least as of right now, the Powhite extension is still part of the thoroughfare plan. Based on how development looks in the county right now, extending Powhite would likely run into problems past Genito Road since Woodlake is built out so much. It could probably get around Brandermill, but Brandermill-related development's starting to sneak to the north of Old Hundred Road.
Indeed, and the Watermill development of recent years is right around where the split would be.

Quote from: Beltway on May 08, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
What exactly would the East-West Freeway accomplish other than open up a corridor of land for large-scale development?
Not much, as it would be pretty redundant. And that's assuming the county even found a business interested in developing there. There's still plenty of development going on in the Walthall and Enon/Bermuda Hundred areas anyway.
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Don'tKnowYet

Would anybody mind providing me some Streetview links of the signs VDOT uses to convey that turning  (typically) from a center lane has a NTOR prohibition but the contiguous lane for the same turn does not?

MASTERNC

Quote from: Don'tKnowYet on May 10, 2018, 08:20:54 PM
Would anybody mind providing me some Streetview links of the signs VDOT uses to convey that turning  (typically) from a center lane has a NTOR prohibition but the contiguous lane for the same turn does not?

Like this?

https://goo.gl/maps/irz2xMastCy

Don'tKnowYet

Exactly.  Thank you.

From what I remember I think VDOT signs it a couple of different ways.  Are there others or feel free to tell me I generally have that wrong.

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Quote from: Don'tKnowYet on May 10, 2018, 08:30:26 PM
Exactly.  Thank you.

From what I remember I think VDOT signs it a couple of different ways.  Are there others or feel free to tell me I generally have that wrong.

Yes, the wording varies quite frequently. Sometimes a sign will say turns on red are allowed from the curb lane only. I'll edit this to include some examples.

Edited to add: These first two are at the same intersection, the off-ramp from the Beltway to Van Dorn Street.





The next one is four lights south of there at Van Dorn and Franconia Road.



This last one is west of Fairfax at West Ox Road and US-29.



VDOT is basically obsessed with this, BUT at the few intersections I know of where left on red is permitted and there are dual left-turn lanes, I have never seen a similar sign restricting lefts on red to the curb lane.

It's kind of stupid how VDOT loves to put these dinky little signs for this restriction on the far side of sometimes large intersections (Van Dorn and Franconia is a good example of that). If you live in Virginia, you know these are ubiquitous here. If you're not from here, there's a reasonable chance you may have trouble spotting these, especially at night.


Edited again: One more. This is in the City of Alexandria just north of the first two signs seen above (westbound Eisenhower Avenue to northbound Van Dorn). It being an independent city might explain the different wording.

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Mapmikey

VDOT has issued a new highway map dated 2016-18 with the new governor's picture (elected Nov 2017).  However, the copyright date remains 2016 and as best I could tell there were no map changes from the previously released 2016-18 issue.

In the past they have released new maps with the same 2-year cover date but changed the copyright to the second year and made changes to the map itself...

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/maps-state.asp


Beltway

Quote from: Alps on May 15, 2018, 05:04:30 PM
Discussion of radar detectors has been moved to Off-Topic.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=22865.0

Speed limits needs to go there as well, IMHO.
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oscar

Quote from: Beltway on May 15, 2018, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Alps on May 15, 2018, 05:04:30 PM
Discussion of radar detectors has been moved to Off-Topic.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=22865.0

Speed limits needs to go there as well, IMHO.

The discussion of speed enforcement that was closely related to the radar detector discussion was also moved there. That keeps the moved new thread intact.

I don't think there's any need to move other speed limit/enforcement discussion to Off-Topic. Those can stay in General Highway Talk or regional boards as appropriate.
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hbelkins

Quote from: Alps on May 15, 2018, 05:04:30 PM
Discussion of radar detectors has been moved to Off-Topic.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=22865.0

Would respectfully request that it be moved from Off-Topic to Travel, because the use of radar detectors is certainly a pertinent topic for travel and is not off-topic on a highway board.


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Alps

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plain

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 15, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
VDOT has issued a new highway map dated 2016-18 with the new governor's picture (elected Nov 2017).  However, the copyright date remains 2016 and as best I could tell there were no map changes from the previously released 2016-18 issue.

In the past they have released new maps with the same 2-year cover date but changed the copyright to the second year and made changes to the map itself...

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/maps-state.asp

Looking at it, the map seems to be getting more accurate as new versions come out (still plenty of errors though). Come to think of it, I noticed for years Rand McNally had the same errors the State Map had. Not sure if that's still the case, I haven't bought a Rand in a few years
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Thing 342

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 15, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
VDOT has issued a new highway map dated 2016-18 with the new governor's picture (elected Nov 2017).  However, the copyright date remains 2016 and as best I could tell there were no map changes from the previously released 2016-18 issue.

In the past they have released new maps with the same 2-year cover date but changed the copyright to the second year and made changes to the map itself...

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/maps-state.asp
VA 167 in Hampton is on the map for another year, drink!
In addition, the map is still missing the VA-172 extension (open since at least 2014), however all of VA-280 is shown as complete (finished in 2015 I think).
I suppose these state maps are not known for their accuracy.

abefroman329

Quote from: Alps on May 16, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
The terms of the deal will not be altered further.

Pray you don't alter it again.

WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 15, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
VDOT has issued a new highway map dated 2016-18 with the new governor's picture (elected Nov 2017).  However, the copyright date remains 2016 and as best I could tell there were no map changes from the previously released 2016-18 issue.

In the past they have released new maps with the same 2-year cover date but changed the copyright to the second year and made changes to the map itself...

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/maps-state.asp



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plain

Just noticed VA 164's extension to I-264 is still missing on the Norfolk insert
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Beltway

VDOT is not specifically looking at tolls yet, but they are now studying I-81 separately and as a whole to determine improvements and potential revenue sources for this route.

"During the meeting, the launch of the Interstate 81 Corridor Improvement Plan was presented to the board.  As directed in Senate Bill 971, the CTB, supported by OIPI, VDOT and DRPT, will study I-81 to identify priorities along the 325 miles and potential revenue sources that could be dedicated to improvements."

http://www.virginiadot.org/newsroom/statewide/2018/new_director_of_transportation128701.asp
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cpzilliacus

Quote from: Beltway on May 16, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
VDOT is not specifically looking at tolls yet, but they are now studying I-81 separately and as a whole to determine improvements and potential revenue sources for this route.

"During the meeting, the launch of the Interstate 81 Corridor Improvement Plan was presented to the board.  As directed in Senate Bill 971, the CTB, supported by OIPI, VDOT and DRPT, will study I-81 to identify priorities along the 325 miles and potential revenue sources that could be dedicated to improvements."

http://www.virginiadot.org/newsroom/statewide/2018/new_director_of_transportation128701.asp

I really hope that they examine tolling all traffic on all lanes of I-81 across Virginia, and in particular not just trucks (I remember when the Star Solutions proposal for I-81 ran off the road and was declared dead).

They should also look at how much Virginia (statewide) motor fuel taxes would have to go up (without tolls) to fund widening all of it to at least six (and some parts probably eight) lanes wide.
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AlexandriaVA

Long-distance trucks cause congestion on I-81, so let's make everyone pay for the required upgrades. Brilliant.

hbelkins

I could go along with tolling I-81 if they'd increase the speed limit to 85 mph.  :bigass:


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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2018, 12:08:36 PM
I could go along with tolling I-81 if they'd increase the speed limit to 85 mph.  :bigass:

But then we'd have to renumber it to I-366 and no one would go for that.
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hbelkins

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 17, 2018, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2018, 12:08:36 PM
I could go along with tolling I-81 if they'd increase the speed limit to 85 mph.  :bigass:

But then we'd have to renumber it to I-366 and no one would go for that.

I actually meant to type 80. I guess I saw "Virginia" and my mind automatically went all Ethanman on me.


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