What is your state's most famous rout?

[Rothman]

Every week by whatever UMass decides to lose by...

Can't believe we lost to FCS Rhode Island and Maine by double-digits

UMass' football team doesn't exactly have a storied history...

They did win an FCS (then 1-AA) Championship in 1998.  Plus they beat UConn this season, so they're not the worst team in FBS.

So...23 years ago.

[jlam]

I believe the worst (or one of the worst) FBS teams would be Arizona. They are 1-6 in their conference (1-9 overall) and their lone win came against UC Berkeley, another awful team.

[DTComposer]

I believe the worst (or one of the worst) FBS teams would be Arizona. They are 1-6 in their conference (1-9 overall) and their lone win came against UC Berkeley, another awful team.

To be fair, Cal was missing seven starters (including their QB), nearly 20 of their bench players, and four coaches due to COVID - the Cal-USC game was postponed for this reason. They likely would have been 3-3 in conference and 4-5 overall - mediocre, to be sure, but not awful.

[NWI_Irish96]

I believe the worst (or one of the worst) FBS teams would be Arizona. They are 1-6 in their conference (1-9 overall) and their lone win came against UC Berkeley, another awful team.

Arizona is probably the worst Power 5 team, but several non-power 5 teams are worse, with UConn possibly the worst. They lost to a UMass team that got blown out by FCS Maine, and UConn's only win was against Ivy League Yale.

[thspfc]

Looks like the state of Michigan's most famous rout is going on right now.

[Alps]

Looks like the state of Michigan's most famous rout is going on right now.

Only for a few people around the east side of the capital.

[vegas1962]

Some other Michigan references off the top of my head:

Lions 59, Browns 14 in the 1957 NFL Championship. Perhaps the last time the Lions franchise was truly relevant.

Tigers 16, White Sox 0 on April 18, 1991, in the inaugural game at the "new" Comiskey Park. Way to wreck a housewarming party.

Two for the Red Wings, both involving Patrick Roy:
1) December 2, 1995 - Red Wings 11, Canadiens 1; notable for Montreal coach Mario Tremblay hanging Roy out to dry for nine goals, resulting in Roy telling the GM that he'd never play for Montreal again. He was traded to the Colorado Avalanche soon after (you're welcome, Avs fans).
2) May 31, 2002 (Game 7 of Western Semi-Final) - Red Wings 7, Avalanche 0; Roy, who seemed to have a personal vendetta against the Red Wings and was a thorn in their hide ever since the 1995 debacle in Montreal, was public enemy #1 to Detroit hockey fans. This game exorcised the Wings' demon.

[Max Rockatansky]

Some other Michigan references off the top of my head:

Lions 59, Browns 14 in the 1957 NFL Championship. Perhaps the last time the Lions franchise was truly relevant.

Tigers 16, White Sox 0 on April 18, 1991, in the inaugural game at the "new" Comiskey Park. Way to wreck a housewarming party.

Two for the Red Wings, both involving Patrick Roy:
1) December 2, 1995 - Red Wings 11, Canadiens 1; notable for Montreal coach Mario Tremblay hanging Roy out to dry for nine goals, resulting in Roy telling the GM that he'd never play for Montreal again. He was traded to the Colorado Avalanche soon after (you're welcome, Avs fans).
2) May 31, 2002 (Game 7 of Western Semi-Final) - Red Wings 7, Avalanche 0; Roy, who seemed to have a personal vendetta against the Red Wings and was a thorn in their hide ever since the 1995 debacle in Montreal, was public enemy #1 to Detroit hockey fans. This game exorcised the Wings' demon.

I'd argue game four of the 1996-97 western conference finals was where the Red Wings exercised the demons of the Colorado Avalanche and Patrick Roy when they won 6-0.  Granted game five was the exact reverse (6-0 Avalanche) but the Red Wings won the series 4-2 and went onto win the Stanley Cup. 

[vegas1962]

I'd argue game four of the 1996-97 western conference finals was where the Red Wings exercised the demons of the Colorado Avalanche and Patrick Roy when they won 6-0.  Granted game five was the exact reverse (6-0 Avalanche) but the Red Wings won the series 4-2 and went onto win the Stanley Cup. 

Very true, ending the 42-year drought in "˜97 was a huge moment in Red Wings history. But Roy and the Avs eliminated the Red Wings in the second round of the playoffs in both 1999 and 2000, and the Avs usually got the better of the Wings in their regular season meetings. Roy definitely was in the heads of Wings fans during that era.

[NWI_Irish96]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

[Max Rockatansky]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself.  The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.

For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen.  That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan.  Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was. 

[nexus73]

For SoCal, I would nominate the ND-USC 1974 game.  The Irish led 24-0. USC scored a TD just before halftime to make it 24-6, then rattled off 49 points to win 55-24.  This game made up for ND wiping the Trojans off the map 51-0 in 1966.

Rick

[thspfc]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.

[thspfc]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself.  The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.

For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen.  That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan.  Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.

I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.

This is why it's tough to have matchups like this (the '72 Dolphins vs. '85 Bears, etc.). The game changed so much in 25 years both on and off the court.

[NWI_Irish96]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.

In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.

So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.

[thspfc]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.

In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.

So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.

That's fair. For the 90/91 Bulls -  "Greatest" , sure. "Best" , nope.

[1995hoo]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

When did they face the Dream Team?

[Max Rockatansky]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

When did they face the Dream Team?

Michael Jordan wouldn't have allowed the matchup out of spite toward Isiah Thomas.   

[hbelkins]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.

In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.

So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.

Not so sure about the latest always being superior. Lots of debate around here over who would win in a matchup between the 2012 and 1996 UK NCAA champion teams. Consensus is that the 1996 team would win because it was deeper, more experienced, in better physical condition because of Pitino's running/pressing style, and the fact that Pitino (one really bad defensive play call in 1992 nothwithstanding) was/is a better bench coach than Calipari.

[Rothman]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.

In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.

So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.

Not so sure about the latest always being superior. Lots of debate around here over who would win in a matchup between the 2012 and 1996 UK NCAA champion teams. Consensus is that the 1996 team would win because it was deeper, more experienced, in better physical condition because of Pitino's running/pressing style, and the fact that Pitino (one really bad defensive play call in 1992 nothwithstanding) was/is a better bench coach than Calipari.

Remember when the ref called Calipari for being out of the coach box during the UMass/UK Sweet 16 game in 1992 or 1993?

UMass remembers...

[JayhawkCO]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.

In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.

So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.

Not so sure about the latest always being superior. Lots of debate around here over who would win in a matchup between the 2012 and 1996 UK NCAA champion teams. Consensus is that the 1996 team would win because it was deeper, more experienced, in better physical condition because of Pitino's running/pressing style, and the fact that Pitino (one really bad defensive play call in 1992 nothwithstanding) was/is a better bench coach than Calipari.

Sadly, I have a signed basketball right next to me from the KU 2012-13 team that ran into Anthony Davis, et al in the finals.  Had that game gone another two minutes, I think we would have won.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself.  The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.

For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen.  That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan.  Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.

I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.

Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).

[Max Rockatansky]

Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.

Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself.  The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.

For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen.  That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan.  Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.

I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.

Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).

An individual Basketball player (especially a great one) has far more impact on a team than that of a Quarterback or any football player.  Basketball players have to play both offense and defense, rarely does that happen anymore in football.  The comparison is kind of hard to make given both sports and the number of players on teams is so vastly different.

[vegas1962]

Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).

According to baseball-reference.com, Gehrig had "only" six WS titles ('27-'28, '32, '36-'38). DiMaggio did indeed have nine wins, which could have been 11 if the Yanks had beaten St. Louis in 1942 and if DiMaggio hadn't missed out on the Yanks' win in the '43 WS due to military service.

But they all still trail the all-time WS leader: Yogi Berra. 10 titles in a total of 14 appearances in the Fall Classic.