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Author Topic: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets  (Read 5320 times)

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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2022, 12:16:13 PM »

I'm looking for freeway and expressway exits that are signed for residential streets. Ideally, the exit should both indicate and the exit necessarily put you on a two-way street with a speed limit below 50 km/h or 30MPH. This doesn't count exits with "a couple sharp turns" and then a major business or one-way street. No mall, stadium, amusement park, or casino parking lots either.


My sister-in-law used to live two houses off the 68th Street I-94 exit ramp in Milwaukee.  I could name about a dozen similar exits in the Milwaukee area.  This has to be pretty common right?

I actually lived on a on-ramp to CASR-99 in Sacramento, but the street wasn't a "residential" street. It was mostly commercial and the posted speed limit was either 35 or 40 MPH. In Sacramento, Howe and Watt Aves (which are both expressway or even freeway at the location) have exits for La Riviera Dr, which is basically residential, but it is posted at 35 MPH. What I am looking for is close to the San Luis Obispo and Monterey examples that I gave elsewhere. The 9th Street exit (signed "San Francisco") from I-880 is close, but I believe that it is one-way near the exit and posted 35MPH.


Here's the house in question.  Rotate it one way and you see an interstate.  Rotate it the other, and you see a perfectly normal residential street.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0294809,-87.9973663,3a,75y,272.69h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXuo3kzJzaF5-6lmRbwxKKw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This the kind of thing that I had in mind!
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2022, 12:33:01 PM »

Do you count US-36 through Saint Joseph (MO) as a freeway?  If so, then I submit the 22nd Street and 28th Street exits.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2022, 02:03:07 PM »

There used to be one on southbound I-405 in West Los Angeles -- Waterford St, if I recall correctly.

Closed (1980s?) because a) it was a substandard "hole-in-the-fence" exit and b) the usual commuters looking for a freeway alternative and not treating it like a residential street.  The exit itself has, I think, no trace remaining, but there were until recently there were BGS greenouts covering up references to it (GSV 2021 example at the previous exit, Sunset Blvd: https://goo.gl/maps/MvwdopyKfVzmXJLz5)

Another 30-mph example might be Haskell Ave. from US 101, notable because the exit ramps connect to the street separately but right next to each other, and you can turn left or right (or straight, originally) from either lane.  If that's not clear, see GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/rJ9fHFLTm5nV7AnW9.  Yes, this one is often used as a connector to Ventura Blvd, but that's over a half-mile away.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2022, 10:39:30 PM »

Here in KC, a lot of those exits along I-70 between downtown and the stadiums (23rd St, 27th St, 31st St, Jackson Ave), on the east side of the city come to mind. Similarly, on the Kansas side, I-635 in KCK has a lot of exits like that.

More broadly, a lot of “inner city”  freeways across the country (e.g. the Kennedy, Ryan, and Eisenhower in Chicago; I-44 in St. Louis; 35W in Minneapolis; I-94 in St. Paul) are like that - in fact, a lot of them cut right through residential areas when they were built.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2022, 11:23:41 PM »

Do you count US-36 through Saint Joseph (MO) as a freeway?  If so, then I submit the 22nd Street and 28th Street exits.

If you count it, then I will also count the other one in West Virginia:  Chestnut Street [and Broaddus Street] exit on US-50 in Clarksburg.  You could make an argument that the next exit west of there is also for "neighborhood streets", but it is marked for both Sycamore Street (not a neighborhood street) and West Virginia Avenue (which is a neighborhood street), but the latter is connected to the exit via Thirteenth Street (which is kind of a maybe neighborhood street).
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2022, 12:28:46 AM »

Meadow St off VA 195 Downtown Expwy (WB)

Though Meadow St is divided at the Expressway itself, it is not at all a major street and is residential in nature. Speed limit is 30 MPH over the Expressway, 25 everywhere else.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.545788,-77.463234,3a,35.8704y,298.25443h,93.30834t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s0M4pdFAumdGRZaHASKweYQ!2e0
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2022, 01:27:45 AM »

I can think of two in Santa Barbara:
-Exit 98B from US-101 north is Arrellaga Street, definitely puts you right into a 25 MPH residential neighborhood.
-Maybe less of a qualifier, but unique: Exit 95 from US-101 south is Los Patos Way - while not a residential street, definitely a side street, not meant for accessing nearby major streets - so much so, that the exit isn't even listed on advance signage (but is definitely signed as an exit at the gore point).

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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2022, 07:54:30 AM »

WB I-696 in Royal Oak has an exit signed for Bermuda St in Ferndale. It also used to be signed for a street in Royal Oak, Mohawk IIRC, but that was taken down when the residents got the city to sign the street "NO THRU TRAFFIC".

Edit: WB, not EB
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2022, 09:28:57 AM »

The 427 in Etobicoke (Toronto), ON has some good examples. All of these are 40 km/h streets, with the first one having detached houses and the other three having apartment/condo buildings.

SB exit for Eringate Drive: https://goo.gl/maps/4Vxy24je2SebtivA7
SB exit for Holiday Drive: https://goo.gl/maps/4fuYN483WdoNPZ2d6
SB exit for Eva Road: https://goo.gl/maps/UL4cWg3Du6EHMoHu9
NB exit for Valhalla (Inn) Road: https://goo.gl/maps/G5hGhj2ghnFBqsTG9

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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2022, 11:44:37 AM »

I can think of two in Santa Barbara:
-Exit 98B from US-101 north is Arrellaga Street, definitely puts you right into a 25 MPH residential neighborhood.
-Maybe less of a qualifier, but unique: Exit 95 from US-101 south is Los Patos Way - while not a residential street, definitely a side street, not meant for accessing nearby major streets - so much so, that the exit isn't even listed on advance signage (but is definitely signed as an exit at the gore point).

Exit 95 from US 101 North (Salinas St) is another that would be a good example, except for being a 30 MPH zone.

I don't even know why they keep the Los Patos exit open -- there isn't enough of anything on that street to warrant an exit.  It could be used as (and, I suspect, originally was) a connector to Cabrillo Blvd, except that the next exit (94B) is signed for Cabrillo, so they presumably prefer traffic to use that.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2022, 02:31:12 PM »

Exit 99 for I-55 in Jackson is Meadowbrook Road. It's pretty much a glorified residential street, with the exception of a small office park in the northeast quadrant. To get to any real services, you must travel about a mile westward towards State Street.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2022, 04:30:18 AM »

A lot of the exits off the Arroyo Seco Parkway count.
The 405 southbound out of the Mullholland Pass used to have an exit for Montana Avenue that dumped you into a residential neighborhood, but they removed the exit during one of the freeway expansions.
There are several exits off the 5 north approaching the East LA Interchange that qualify, including Ditman Avenue and Calzona Street.
The 215 in San Bernardino used to have several, but they were removed and the exits were rebuilt at the major cross-streets when the freeway was widened 10 years ago.
I’d argue that the Haskell Avenue exit off the 101 in the Valley also qualifies.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2022, 11:28:48 AM »

There's the Landers Lane ramp off of I-295 north in Delaware. 

https://goo.gl/maps/PGKk2ihhziNVULwY6
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2022, 10:30:11 PM »

In the Philippines, the short ramp for Libis Baesa district in Caloocan (off of the NLEX/Skyway Y split) qualifies for this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Libis%20Baesa#map=18/14.67145/121.00024

There is a college down the street from that though, De La Salle Araneta University, but the road the exit leads to is primarily residential.

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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2022, 01:38:04 PM »

Here's one at the Hutchinson River Parkway in Mt. Vernon: https://goo.gl/maps/RAX4R8AtzhGyBtFR7

And an entrance-only a mile north on a very residential street: https://goo.gl/maps/7z5bNbLdFsg3VmAS7
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2022, 09:12:08 PM »

Here in KC, a lot of those exits along I-70 between downtown and the stadiums (23rd St, 27th St, 31st St, Jackson Ave), on the east side of the city come to mind. Similarly, on the Kansas side, I-635 in KCK has a lot of exits like that.

Hell, I think half of the exits from the 18th Street freeway would qualify. Steele Road? Ruby Avenue??
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2022, 11:38:14 PM »

The ur-example is probably Mogul (I-80 Exit 7 in Nevada).
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2022, 01:56:32 PM »

I never thought this was a thing. I saw lots of these when I lived in St Louis and a fair number when I lived in Tidewater. Here's just a few

St Louis
I-55@ Loughborough, especially NB onto Idaho
I-55@ Bates/Virginia
I-44@ Grand
I-44@ Berry Rd
I-64@ Bellevue
I-64@ Spoede Rd
I-70@ Branch
I-70 @ Lucas and Hunt

Tidewater
I-64@ W Bay Avenue
I-264@ Ballentine Blvd
VA 164@ West Norfolk Avenue

There are others. But these were all pretty obvious.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2022, 03:49:17 PM »

The Editha Ave ramp off MA-57 westbound in Agawam.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2022, 12:27:27 AM »

The example that immediately comes to mind for me is the Chantilly Blvd. exit on US-41 (northbound only) north of Chicago. As far as I can tell the exit only serves a small residential area and is the only way in and out of the neighborhood.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2022, 12:26:06 AM »

Always thought the Vermont Street exit from US 101 NB in San Francisco was mysterious. Residential neighborhood, no way to reenter the freeway. Maybe just a traffic escape hatch.

https://goo.gl/maps/i7QvRNM4vdnrvMfn8
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2022, 12:42:09 AM »

I forgot US 169 at 16th St. in St. Louis Park, MN. There used to be two RIROS, but the one to/from southbound 169 was removed a few years ago.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2022, 04:23:53 PM »

Always thought the Vermont Street exit from US 101 NB in San Francisco was mysterious. Residential neighborhood, no way to reenter the freeway. Maybe just a traffic escape hatch.

https://goo.gl/maps/i7QvRNM4vdnrvMfn8
So why did they close off the left-turn lane from there?
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2022, 05:12:03 PM »

WB I-696 in Royal Oak has an exit signed for Bermuda St in Ferndale. It also used to be signed for a street in Royal Oak, Mohawk IIRC, but that was taken down when the residents got the city to sign the street "NO THRU TRAFFIC".

That's an interesting note.  Not only the "No Thru Traffic" signage, but I just looked on Street View and you can see that some time after the freeway was built, the Mohawk / Irving intersection (just a few steps north of the I-696 service drive) was reconfigured to make Irving Avenue the through route.  The asphalt cuts on the right indicate the curved curb was not originally there.  https://goo.gl/maps/w5wLb7CBBQtbiWnBA

When I-696 signage was replaced in 2017, the original sign plans showed "Bermuda St / Mohawk Ave."  Now I know why that was changed.
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Re: Exits signed for "neighborhood" streets
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2022, 06:04:50 PM »

WB I-696 in Royal Oak has an exit signed for Bermuda St in Ferndale. It also used to be signed for a street in Royal Oak, Mohawk IIRC, but that was taken down when the residents got the city to sign the street "NO THRU TRAFFIC".

That's an interesting note.  Not only the "No Thru Traffic" signage, but I just looked on Street View and you can see that some time after the freeway was built, the Mohawk / Irving intersection (just a few steps north of the I-696 service drive) was reconfigured to make Irving Avenue the through route.  The asphalt cuts on the right indicate the curved curb was not originally there.  https://goo.gl/maps/w5wLb7CBBQtbiWnBA

That reminds me of my thought experiment: what specific action would a driver have to take to be in violation of the "No Thru Traffic" sign? (I used to live next to a street that was also signed this way. There was nothing physical preventing thru traffic, so the only way to violate it would be behavioral.)
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