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NY 17/"I-86"

Started by newyorker478, October 27, 2011, 07:54:53 PM

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yakra

Quote from: Roadgeek Adam on July 12, 2022, 10:47:28 AM
I personally find Historic 20 shields on 20 itself a bit stupid. Old alignment of 20? Fine. Current 20? Not so amazing.

This used to be US20. It still is, but it used to be too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHA5CIL0fg
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker


dzheng35


dzheng35

I just noticed on the DOT website that it says that the exit 105 reconstruction project is already done. How is this possible for that project to be done so quickly if it has just started this year? Did they cancel it or what?

vdeane

Quote from: dzheng35 on August 20, 2022, 03:47:34 AM
I just noticed on the DOT website that it says that the exit 105 reconstruction project is already done. How is this possible for that project to be done so quickly if it has just started this year? Did they cancel it or what?
Award of contract - 7/29/22
Original contract completion date - 12/31/24
Project completed - 8/5/22

My guess is either a site malfunction or something's up.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

rickmastfan67

Quote from: vdeane on August 20, 2022, 10:08:05 AM
Quote from: dzheng35 on August 20, 2022, 03:47:34 AM
I just noticed on the DOT website that it says that the exit 105 reconstruction project is already done. How is this possible for that project to be done so quickly if it has just started this year? Did they cancel it or what?
Award of contract - 7/29/22
Original contract completion date - 12/31/24
Project completed - 8/5/22

My guess is either a site malfunction or something's up.

Nah, they must have had 10k people hired and on site to do it non-stop in a week.  :sombrero:

kalvado

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on August 20, 2022, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 20, 2022, 10:08:05 AM
Quote from: dzheng35 on August 20, 2022, 03:47:34 AM
I just noticed on the DOT website that it says that the exit 105 reconstruction project is already done. How is this possible for that project to be done so quickly if it has just started this year? Did they cancel it or what?
Award of contract - 7/29/22
Original contract completion date - 12/31/24
Project completed - 8/5/22

My guess is either a site malfunction or something's up.

Nah, they must have had 10k people hired and on site to do it non-stop in a week.  :sombrero:
Can concrete cure that fast, though?

seicer

Finished two years ahead of schedule too!

kalvado

Quote from: seicer on August 23, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Finished two years ahead of schedule too!
Project is successfully completed via cancellation of the project.

bluecountry


GenExpwy

Quote from: kalvado on August 23, 2022, 10:55:28 AM
Quote from: seicer on August 23, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Finished two years ahead of schedule too!
Project is successfully completed via cancellation of the project.

And yet the Current Construction Contract Cost is still $30,868,999.

kalvado

Quote from: GenExpwy on August 25, 2022, 07:45:32 AM
Quote from: kalvado on August 23, 2022, 10:55:28 AM
Quote from: seicer on August 23, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Finished two years ahead of schedule too!
Project is successfully completed via cancellation of the project.

And yet the Current Construction Contract Cost is still $30,868,999.
Did they rounded cents off that number?

vdeane

Quote from: dzheng35 on August 20, 2022, 03:47:34 AM
I just noticed on the DOT website that it says that the exit 105 reconstruction project is already done. How is this possible for that project to be done so quickly if it has just started this year? Did they cancel it or what?
I contacted Region 9 and received a response back earlier today - it's a site issue (which will be corrected), the project is still on track to being completed in fall 2024.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

GenExpwy

Project D264886 will replace the overhead signs at the I-86 — I-390 split. The westbound control city is changing from Jamestown to Erie.

webny99

Quote from: GenExpwy on September 16, 2022, 07:53:57 AM
Project D264886 will replace the overhead signs at the I-86 — I-390 split. The westbound control city is changing from Jamestown to Erie.

:clap: FINALLY! That has been a long time coming. Those signs are so old they still have NY 15 signage!

And I'm on board with Erie being the control city. I didn't have as big of an issue with Jamestown as some, but Erie is my preference. Most of the entrances west of I-390 still use Jamestown, so it will probably be a while before Erie is fully implemented.

MATraveler128

I have to wonder why Jamestown was ever used to being with as it's just not a major destination point for westbound traffic. They should've used Erie from the beginning.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

seicer

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 16, 2022, 08:58:36 AM
I have to wonder why Jamestown was ever used to being with as it's just not a major destination point for westbound traffic. They should've used Erie from the beginning.

I wonder how old those signs are? NY 17's freeway ended just west of Jamestown, tying in to NY 430. It wasn't until 1974 or thereabouts that the two-lane freeway opened west of Sherman, and 1982 between Sherman and (today's) NY 430, and it wasn't until 1988 that it opened to I-90 in Pennsylvania. Jamestown would have made sense then.

It looks like according to the sign plans that the entire structure is being replaced too: https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.BC_CONST_NOTICE_ADMIN.VIEWFILE?p_file_id=39446&p_is_digital=Y

No mention of revised interchange numbers (yet).

webny99

Quote from: seicer on September 16, 2022, 09:08:23 AM
It looks like according to the sign plans that the entire structure is being replaced too: https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.BC_CONST_NOTICE_ADMIN.VIEWFILE?p_file_id=39446&p_is_digital=Y

Thanks for the link! I am glad to see that Buffalo will be removed from WB signage for I-390. It would make sense if there was better connectivity to Buffalo but until then, just Rochester is fine.

WNYroadgeek

Quote from: GenExpwy on September 16, 2022, 07:53:57 AM
Project D264886 will replace the overhead signs at the I-86 — I-390 split. The westbound control city is changing from Jamestown to Erie.

And it looks like I-86 west to I-390 is finally being properly signed as Exit 36.

The Ghostbuster

I look forward to the day it is numbered Exit 145.

James

Quote from: webny99 on September 16, 2022, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on September 16, 2022, 07:53:57 AM
Project D264886 will replace the overhead signs at the I-86 — I-390 split. The westbound control city is changing from Jamestown to Erie.
And I'm on board with Erie being the control city. I didn't have as big of an issue with Jamestown as some, but Erie is my preference.

Meh, Cleveland would be an even better control city.

James

Also, if Jamestown will no longer be the WB control city, will it still be for EB? I feel like Corning is a little too small to sign from all the way in PA. Heck, I never even understood why Corning was signed on I-390 from all the way in Rochester.

Rothman

Quote from: James on September 17, 2022, 04:32:49 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 16, 2022, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on September 16, 2022, 07:53:57 AM
Project D264886 will replace the overhead signs at the I-86 — I-390 split. The westbound control city is changing from Jamestown to Erie.
And I'm on board with Erie being the control city. I didn't have as big of an issue with Jamestown as some, but Erie is my preference.

Meh, Cleveland would be an even better control city.
Chicago!
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

skluth

Quote from: James on September 17, 2022, 04:35:55 PM
Also, if Jamestown will no longer be the WB control city, will it still be for EB? I feel like Corning is a little too small to sign from all the way in PA. Heck, I never even understood why Corning was signed on I-390 from all the way in Rochester.

Corning makes sense. It's an old (albeit smaller) industrial city at the intersection of two interstates, even if they weren't interstates in the original 1956 bill. I'd prefer Birmingham as an eastbound control city, but Corning is fine.

kalvado

Quote from: Rothman on September 17, 2022, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: James on September 17, 2022, 04:32:49 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 16, 2022, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on September 16, 2022, 07:53:57 AM
Project D264886 will replace the overhead signs at the I-86 — I-390 split. The westbound control city is changing from Jamestown to Erie.
And I'm on board with Erie being the control city. I didn't have as big of an issue with Jamestown as some, but Erie is my preference.

Meh, Cleveland would be an even better control city.
Chicago!
Seattle!
Although I would prefer Cleveland as well.

webny99

Quote from: kalvado on September 17, 2022, 06:50:17 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 17, 2022, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: James on September 17, 2022, 04:32:49 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 16, 2022, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on September 16, 2022, 07:53:57 AM
Project D264886 will replace the overhead signs at the I-86 — I-390 split. The westbound control city is changing from Jamestown to Erie.
And I'm on board with Erie being the control city. I didn't have as big of an issue with Jamestown as some, but Erie is my preference.

Meh, Cleveland would be an even better control city.
Chicago!
Seattle!
Although I would prefer Cleveland as well.

At least I-86 ends near Erie. No reason to skip a city that's also used on I-90 in favor of one that's well beyond the end of I-86.



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