Traffic signal

[TEG24601]

This sort of thing just popped up near me.  One of my co-workers brought it to my attention because he was pulled over for moving through the intersection as though it was a protected right turn, and the cop said that because it was a red light, he still needed to stop.  This can't be right, can it?.  From what I can tell is is a replacement for those lights that added a 4th light for a protected right turn, which would turn into a green ball when all traffic was allowed to go, or am I reading it wrong?

Sounds like BS.  Would the cop pull someone over for going through a green arrow at a doghouse that also had circular red lit?  The signal showed green right arrow; if problems like that persist they may need to change the signals.

In this day and age where most drivers have cell phones w/built-in cameras (even old-school cheap flip-types have such), had your (TEG24601) co-worker indeed been cited for such; a quick pic of the signal showing the green arrow & red light lit together would be enough evidence to legally challenge the citation in court.

Which is exactly what I told him.

[jakeroot]

This sort of thing just popped up near me.  One of my co-workers brought it to my attention because he was pulled over for moving through the intersection as though it was a protected right turn, and the cop said that because it was a red light, he still needed to stop.  This can't be right, can it?.  From what I can tell is is a replacement for those lights that added a 4th light for a protected right turn, which would turn into a green ball when all traffic was allowed to go, or am I reading it wrong?

Sounds like BS.  Would the cop pull someone over for going through a green arrow at a doghouse that also had circular red lit?  The signal showed green right arrow; if problems like that persist they may need to change the signals.

In this day and age where most drivers have cell phones w/built-in cameras (even old-school cheap flip-types have such), had your (TEG24601) co-worker indeed been cited for such; a quick pic of the signal showing the green arrow & red light lit together would be enough evidence to legally challenge the citation in court.

Which is exactly what I told him.

Did the cop take note of the arrow being lit green at the time of the turn?

[kj3400]

http://goo.gl/maps/n4gnK

'No Movement on Red'. Well, there's something new.

[M3019C LPS20]

A rare close-up of a suspended, 1st generation Ruleta head. From New York City. 1926.



This traffic signal had angled-signal sections, because it was located at a skewed intersection.

[M3019C LPS20]

5th Av. G.E. "bronze signal" in Manhattan, N.Y. Unknown year.

[M3019C LPS20]

E. 34th St. and Queens-Midtown Tunnel exit Marbelite cluster. Manhattan, N.Y. 1985.



Its original partner attached to a late 1950s truss-arm setup.

[riiga]

Typical Swedish traffic lights on larger roads


Lower section


Pedestrian signal


Bike signal

[PHLBOS]

Typical Swedish traffic lights on larger roads

Love the old-school-looking green arrow.

[freebrickproductions]

How about a 4-way traffic light with two red lights on each side?
Crouse-hinds Type-M 4-way by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Crouse-hinds Type-M 4-way by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Crouse-hinds Type-M 4-way by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Crouse-hinds Type-M 4-way by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Crouse-hinds Type-M 4-way by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Crouse-hinds Type-M 4-way by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

[jakeroot]

I pass through this intersection near Tacoma, Washington quite a few times during the week (typically 10-20 times) and every time I drive through, I think about ways to improve the intersection. Here's what's up:

Nyanza Road meets Gravelly Lake Drive at what is basically a right angle. Gravelly makes a sweeping turn through the intersection, and slip lanes round off the edges:



The problem that I have with the intersection is that as you drive along Gravelly Lake approaching Nyanza from the left of the image, the sharp bend hides the wire-hung protected-only left turn signal, but there is a signal repeater on the NW signal mast. So you can see from a distance whether or not the light is green, but not if the turn signal is.

To fix this, could the signal repeater feasibly be something like this?

[Revive 755]

^ You would need to mount two separate three-section heads to stay in compliance with the MUTCD rather than having one large six-section head.

[NYhwyfan]

George Urban Blvd/French Rd - Cheektowaga, NY - old 9x12 pedestrian signal heads

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.918657,-78.713627,3a,75y,127.6h,75.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1st7W36vfNHRHwajP1gchcoA!2e0

Payne Ave - North Tonawana, NY - 9x12 peds mounted with 8" signals on span wire

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.03999,-78.873583,3a,75y,4.53h,82.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYkplHiP6jpeDfb1eTHRk5w!2e0

[jakeroot]

^ You would need to mount two separate three-section heads to stay in compliance with the MUTCD rather than having one large six-section head.

Cocking nora.

[PHLBOS]

Payne Ave - North Tonawana, NY - 9x12 peds mounted with 8" signals on span wire
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.03999,-78.873583,3a,75y,4.53h,82.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYkplHiP6jpeDfb1eTHRk5w!2e0

Overhead pedestrain signals; that's certainly different.

[roadfro]

Payne Ave - North Tonawana, NY - 9x12 peds mounted with 8" signals on span wire
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.03999,-78.873583,3a,75y,4.53h,82.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYkplHiP6jpeDfb1eTHRk5w!2e0

Overhead pedestrain signals; that's certainly different.

Never seen anything like that... Don't think that ever would have been MUTCD acceptable.

[M3019C LPS20]

In the Bronx in New York, on E. Fordham Rd., some old Marbelite "flat top" traffic signals remain. They likely date back to 1954.

From Google Maps.

One at the corner of Hoffman St.



A second one on Bathgate Av.




Each one still uses a plumbizer, which is rare in New York City nowadays.

The "flat top" heads there are few and far between, so see them while they last.

[KEK Inc.]

I pass through this intersection near Tacoma, Washington quite a few times during the week (typically 10-20 times) and every time I drive through, I think about ways to improve the intersection. Here's what's up:

Nyanza Road meets Gravelly Lake Drive at what is basically a right angle. Gravelly makes a sweeping turn through the intersection, and slip lanes round off the edges:



The problem that I have with the intersection is that as you drive along Gravelly Lake approaching Nyanza from the left of the image, the sharp bend hides the wire-hung protected-only left turn signal, but there is a signal repeater on the NW signal mast. So you can see from a distance whether or not the light is green, but not if the turn signal is.

To fix this, could the signal repeater feasibly be something like this?

I believe the MUTCD only requires thru traffic to have a repeater for blind corners.  You're going to have to slow down anyways for a left turn. 

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/17107337121/in/photostream/
Here is one that is missing all but one visor.

Also it has two red signals, similar to Texas and North Carolina for left turn signals.  I believe, that LADOTD has either a written or non written rule for having drawbridge signals with double reds.

[jakeroot]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/17107337121/in/photostream/
Here is one that is missing all but one visor.

Also it has two red signals, similar to Texas and North Carolina for left turn signals.  I believe, that LADOTD has either a written or non written rule for having drawbridge signals with double reds.

Reminds me of the New Orleans CBD. Tons of signals without visors, and plenty with some on, some off.

[jakeroot]

Pierce County just recently installed a new diagonal span-wire signal near South Hill, Washington. I find it amusing because, back in 2000, Pierce County celebrated the replacement of the last diagonal span-wire signal, only to then install a new one 15 years later. They replaced the signals because they were hard to see. They've mitigated this by placing far-side ground-mounted signals for the sides of the intersection that are closer to their respective signals (thus the sides with the most neck-craning).

[freebrickproductions]

Huntsville only has one diagonal span-wire intersection with actual traffic lights on it left.
We still do have some intersections with diagonal spans that hold up beacons though, such as this one.

[6a]

I wish I had a picture of the old diagonal span at W. Broad and Georgesville/Phillipi Rds. here. There were probably a dozen or more signals on this thing, it was fantastic.

[cl94]

I wish I had a picture of the old diagonal span at W. Broad and Georgesville/Phillipi Rds. here. There were probably a dozen or more signals on this thing, it was fantastic.

New York installed stuff like that until pretty recently (they may still do so, but all NYSDOT intersections I've seen in the past 3-4 years out here are mast arms). A bunch of recently-installed (as in late summer 2014) county assemblies in Amherst do actually have 12 signals (8 3-section and 4 4-section with color-changing arrow).

[M3019C LPS20]

Pierce County just recently installed a new diagonal span-wire signal near South Hill, Washington. I find it amusing because, back in 2000, Pierce County celebrated the replacement of the last diagonal span-wire signal, only to then install a new one 15 years later. They replaced the signals because they were hard to see. They've mitigated this by placing far-side ground-mounted signals for the sides of the intersection that are closer to their respective signals (thus the sides with the most neck-craning).

That's a first. A bottom bracket on two individual traffic signals. I wouldn't even consider that as a cluster without the top bracket!

[jakeroot]

That's a first. A bottom bracket on two individual traffic signals. I wouldn't even consider that as a cluster without the top bracket!

"Pierce County" and "first" don't usually go together. If I understand what you're saying, the bracket is usually on top instead of the bottom? It did look a bit funny. Though I think it makes sense, since if wind started blowing them around, they risk blowing in front of each other. With the bracket, they'll at least swing together.