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Title: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: 7/8 on December 08, 2023, 03:40:40 PM
Anyone else getting this error? Sometimes when I load an AARoads forum page, it gives me the following message:

QuoteConnection Problems

Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later.

Refreshing the page seems to work, but I've been getting it several times a day. This is on Firefox browser.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Scott5114 on December 08, 2023, 03:43:01 PM
Yup. Error is on our web host's end. I'm guessing they'll say the solution is to pay them more money.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: 1995hoo on December 08, 2023, 04:01:28 PM
I got it a number of times in quick succession shortly after 3:00. I had wondered whether it was on my end because we had lost power for about an hour starting at 2:00. Didn't seem like something that would be on my end given what the message said, but it's good to know either way.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Anthony_JK on December 08, 2023, 04:05:58 PM
I just got it, but it disappeared after a refresh. Google Chrome, but also enhanced with VPN active.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: MATraveler128 on December 08, 2023, 04:29:16 PM
I get this a lot on my iPad which is easily solved by refreshing the page.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: webny99 on December 08, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
I've seen this a few times before, but it's gotten a lot more frequent recently.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: formulanone on December 08, 2023, 07:22:36 PM
I have also received this message a lot more lately. Doesn't matter if it's a wifi or cellular connection.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Voyager on December 08, 2023, 07:27:31 PM
Sorry everyone my return has brought the wrath of the error log with me.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: hotdogPi on December 08, 2023, 09:50:52 PM
Page loads have been very slow for me today. It's usually instant.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: US 89 on December 08, 2023, 09:56:29 PM
Glad to see this isn't just me. The past day or two, loading any page here has been very slow, with about a 25% chance of ultimately a failed load and "Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database".
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Hunty2022 on December 08, 2023, 10:35:57 PM
I have received that message only once today. I am also experiencing a very slow forum.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: vdeane on December 08, 2023, 10:37:19 PM
I've been getting the error a lot too this past week or so.  That said, page loads have been very noticeably slower for me ever since the forum came back from The Incident.  I suspect it has something to do with the move to the new database system or lingering damage from the mass post deletions.  Or both.  It does seem to be worse at peak times, however.

For what it's worth, my website is on the same host (unless AARoads has since moved), and I haven't seen it with the database that powers my photo gallery.  Of course, AARoads probably has significantly higher activity on the forum database...
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: jlam on December 08, 2023, 10:53:17 PM
I haven't seen the error message yet (today), but the loading times have been significantly slower than usual. It's hard to note said oddities due to the cardiac arrest internet connection where I live, but the moving average seems to have trended toward slower times.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: webny99 on December 08, 2023, 11:08:55 PM
A couple of other observations about the slow load times:
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: US 89 on December 09, 2023, 01:27:07 AM
The search function, by the way, is so slow that it is virtually unusable. So if we start seeing a bunch of duplicate threads showing up, that's probably why...
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Hunty2022 on December 09, 2023, 08:30:31 AM
The forum had a record of 1200 people online at the same time yesterday. That could be a reason for everything being very slow.

Was there any problems like this on February 11, 2020?
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: SectorZ on December 09, 2023, 01:17:30 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 08, 2023, 11:08:55 PM
A couple of other observations about the slow load times:
  • Load times are slowest when clicking on a thread and the functions within a thread
  • Once you're in a thread, clicking back to the forum home page loads almost instantly (aka normal speed)
  • This post took about 10 seconds to go through (and another 10 seconds to reopen to add this edit.  :D)

I will concur that is similar to my experience the past few days. I got the error message itself one time, and then the experience you describe ever since.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: hotdogPi on December 09, 2023, 02:13:15 PM
None of this is a bug or anything like that — these are all legitimate guests who are checking the forum because a Slate article linked to us. We've just never had this much traffic before.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: vdeane on December 09, 2023, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 09, 2023, 02:13:15 PM
None of this is a bug or anything like that — these are all legitimate guests who are checking the forum because a Slate article linked to us. We've just never had this much traffic before.
I've been seeing this problem since before yesterday, though, so it's can't only be the Slate article.  In fact, the forum has been slow for me every since it came back from being down for a few days (although not on the same scale as yesterday and today, so the Slate article isn't helping in that respect).  That's why I think it has something to do with either the new database system or lingering issues from the mass deletion of certain posts.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Jim on December 09, 2023, 04:20:12 PM
For me, I'd say it's been moderately to annoyingly slow for about a week.  No DB connection errors yet for me in limited browsing of the forum today, but I'd say about 5-10% of page loads for me over the last several days have resulted in the SMF DB error.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: GaryV on December 09, 2023, 06:46:17 PM
I got it a few minutes ago. It popped up immediately, unlike other times where the spinner goes around for several seconds before connecting to the link.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: hotdogPi on December 10, 2023, 07:42:05 AM
Wait — the number of guests is consistently between 1000 and 1100, regardless of time of day. It's not fluctuating as it should. Is a NUMTOT trying to DDOS us?
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: webny99 on December 10, 2023, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 10, 2023, 07:42:05 AM
Wait — the number of guests is consistently between 1000 and 1100, regardless of time of day. It's not fluctuating as it should. Is a NUMTOT trying to DDOS us?

Yeah, this seems weird. I wasn't sure the increase could necessarily be attributed to the Slate article either, if it was the one about the AARoads wiki, I don't think it even had a direct link to the forum.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: davewiecking on December 10, 2023, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 10, 2023, 07:42:05 AM
Wait — the number of guests is consistently between 1000 and 1100, regardless of time of day. It's not fluctuating as it should. Is a NUMTOT trying to DDOS us?

Just noticed that "a" guest is hitting a different thread about every second. A bot downloading the entire forum?
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: hotdogPi on December 10, 2023, 06:53:08 PM
I've seen two consecutive guests on the same thread, plus the more recent threads seem to be more common but not exclusively them.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 10, 2023, 07:21:47 PM
Wouldn't be too surprised if it's bots scraping the forum for info; whether to feed the generative "AI"s or to for something else, I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: GaryV on December 10, 2023, 08:10:14 PM
Just think of how some of the P13 posts could mess up AI for years to come ...
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 10, 2023, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 10, 2023, 08:10:14 PM
Just think of how some of the P13 posts could mess up AI for years to come ...


...are most of those even able to be viewable by guests?

On the other hand, as someone who's generally against how the "AIs" are looking to be used for...
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: hotdogPi on December 11, 2023, 04:50:47 PM
Interestingly, the connection problems have stopped, even though we still have the 1000 guests.

Are we getting ad revenue from them?
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: rickmastfan67 on December 11, 2023, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 10, 2023, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 10, 2023, 08:10:14 PM
Just think of how some of the P13 posts could mess up AI for years to come ...


...are most of those even able to be viewable by guests?

If they're in the Fictional area, then no.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: rickmastfan67 on December 11, 2023, 08:42:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 11, 2023, 04:50:47 PM
Interestingly, the connection problems have stopped, even though we still have the 1000 guests.

Are we getting ad revenue from them?

Possibly, I'm not sure.  That would be a question for Alex.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: vdeane on December 11, 2023, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 11, 2023, 04:50:47 PM
Interestingly, the connection problems have stopped, even though we still have the 1000 guests.

Are we getting ad revenue from them?
I haven't seen the error today, though threads still load slow enough that when I have all the regional boards open and am queuing all the threads I want to read in separate tabs, I have enough time to queue a few up, click the "new " link for the one I want to view in that tab, realize I forgot one, queue that up, and scroll over to the tab with the next board before the page switches over.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Jim on December 11, 2023, 08:52:25 PM
Back to normal loading speeds for me this evening.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: davewiecking on December 12, 2023, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Jim on December 11, 2023, 08:52:25 PM
Back to normal loading speeds for me this evening.
Loading speed is good today. The 1000 guests are mostly just viewing the forum index, often several times a second.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: rickmastfan67 on December 12, 2023, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: davewiecking on December 12, 2023, 10:32:01 AM
The 1000 guests are mostly just viewing the forum index, often several times a second.

There's a special reason for that. ;)
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 13, 2023, 11:53:16 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on December 11, 2023, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 10, 2023, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 10, 2023, 08:10:14 PM
Just think of how some of the P13 posts could mess up AI for years to come ...


...are most of those even able to be viewable by guests?

If they're in the Fictional area, then no.

I know a large number of P13's posts are in Fictional, thanks to their merged Hell Thread™ of most of their ideas. However, I do also know P13 does have a good number of posts outside of Fictional, including (and especially, it seems) the Metrication thread in Off Topic.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: 1995hoo on December 14, 2023, 07:38:14 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 13, 2023, 11:53:16 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on December 11, 2023, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 10, 2023, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 10, 2023, 08:10:14 PM
Just think of how some of the P13 posts could mess up AI for years to come ...


...are most of those even able to be viewable by guests?

If they're in the Fictional area, then no.

I know a large number of P13's posts are in Fictional, thanks to their merged Hell Thread™ of most of their ideas. However, I do also know P13 does have a good number of posts outside of Fictional, including (and especially, it seems) the Metrication thread in Off Topic.

I suspect—I don't know because I'm not a moderator, but I suspect—that one of the main reasons the metrication thread wasn't merged is because it contains a poll and the merged thread also contains a poll. If I'm not mistaken, the software allows one poll per thread.
Title: Re: "Connection Problems" Error
Post by: Scott5114 on December 14, 2023, 06:43:21 PM
No, it's because whenever I merged the threads, I left out threads where people had made meaningful posts that weren't direct responses to Poiponen. I figured it wasn't fair to other posters to have their posts swept into the freak sardine salad when they were merely trying to use the forum in the way it was intended, and I didn't want to kill any discussions that had managed to take root in a sidewalk-crack of a thread. (This is also why the sports thread about creating new games got left alone—at least one user besides Poiponen had put forth a good-faith attempt to create a game in it.)