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Point Nemo of Interstates?

Started by Zzonkmiles, May 13, 2014, 11:43:20 AM

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corco

I think you are confusing shape preservation with distance preservation. Those aren't the same thing. To maintain shape, you have to distort both distance and area. Mercator is a conformal projection, though exaggerated- and while it does show dhape accurately, area and distance are way distorted, and just by looking at a Mercator you can see that you wouldn't want to use that for this sort of analysis.

Here is a link to what I am talking about:
www.pasda.PSU.edu/help/projection.asp



vtk

Quote from: corco on May 15, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
I think you are confusing shape preservation with distance preservation. Those aren't the same thing. To maintain shape, you have to distort both distance and area.

No, I am not.  I understand that distances are "distorted" on a conformal projection.  But they're distorted by the same amount in every direction in any given neighborhood on the map; in other words, it's a simple error of scale.  (Yes I know I oversimplified that last statement.  I'm talking about infinitesimal neighborhoods in the mathematical sense.)  Finding the location of "nemo points" involves comparing distances in different directions, and a change of scale does not change the position of the nemo point.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

mcdonaat

Vidalia, Louisiana - 71.5 miles from I-49, 71.9 miles from I-20, 64 miles from I-55.

I thought about the deepest swamps of Louisiana, but the furthest spot with a road was only 45 miles from I-310 in Boutte.

hotdogPi

Quote from: mcdonaat on May 15, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Vidalia, Louisiana - 71.5 miles from I-49, 71.9 miles from I-20, 64 miles from I-55.

I thought about the deepest swamps of Louisiana, but the furthest spot with a road was only 45 miles from I-310 in Boutte.

What about the mouth of the Mississippi River?
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25

mcdonaat

Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2014, 04:58:13 PM
Quote from: mcdonaat on May 15, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Vidalia, Louisiana - 71.5 miles from I-49, 71.9 miles from I-20, 64 miles from I-55.

I thought about the deepest swamps of Louisiana, but the furthest spot with a road was only 45 miles from I-310 in Boutte.

What about the mouth of the Mississippi River?
No roads leading right into the mouth of the Mississippi. However, I'm seeing 70.8 miles from the nearest Interstate, I-910, in Gretna, along a winding road. That's from the southern terminus of LA 29.

roadman65

Venice, LA is over 70 miles from I-910.  That is the furthest south you can get to the mouth of the Mississippi River by road.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

mcdonaat

Should we use I-910, then, if it's an unsigned Interstate? If not, it's at least 75 miles from I-10's curve at the 'Dome.

tidecat

If you exclude future I-66 in Kentucky, which is currently the Cumberland Parkway, it should be roughly near the intersection of 2 lines: one from I-75/64 in Lexington to the downtown loop in Nashville, and the other line from I-265 on the southeast side of Louisville to I-75 near Knoxville.  This should put it somewhere near Campbellsville.

If you count the Cumberland Parkway as an Interstate, it should be somewhere southwest of Danville.

You may get a similar result somewhere west of Pikeville (I-64, I-75, I-77, I-81), but that will fall away if I-126 is extended further, or if I-66 ever makes it into eastern Kentucky.
Clinched: I-264 (KY), I-265 (KY), I-359 (AL), I-459 (AL), I-865 (IN)

KEVIN_224

For Connecticut, I'd guess either northern or northwestern Litchfield County. Look for the center point of the "doughnut" (if applicable) that's north of I-84, east of I-87, west of I-91 and south of I-90.

jp the roadgeek

Rhode Island would have to be either Block Island, or Sachuset Point in Newport.  NY state would have to be somewhere around Massena (the center point between I-87, I-90 and I-81).  New Jersey is Cape May.  Delaware is Fenwick Island at the MD line, which would be about the same for MD (take the midway point between I-95 in DE and I-64 in Norfolk along the Delmarva).  New Hampshire is the point where NH, ME, and Quebec all meet.  Maine is somewhere out in the Allagash.  For PA, it's somewhere near Wellsboro (I-79, I-81, I-80, and I-86 as the boundaries), although that will shift somewhere west of Coudersport once I-99 is signed along US 15 up to Painted Post.
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)



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