Cities with great freeway setup

[roadman65]

Kansas City has a nice set up with the exception of I-49 not making it inside the 435 loop.  Of course that will never get done due to the current community opposition even thought the ROW is there in the middle of current US 71.

For a city of its size, I would day Wichita has a good system.

[mgk920]

Kansas City has a nice set up with the exception of I-49 not making it inside the 435 loop.  Of course that will never get done due to the current community opposition even thought the ROW is there in the middle of current US 71.

There are also a couple of ghost interchanges on I-70 on the KCMO's east side, one looks like it was for a never-built freeway to go towards the northern part of Independence and the other to tie into MO 350/US 50 (Blue Parkway) to/through Raytown.

Mike

[silverback1065]

they should make i-90 have it's own route through chicago

[roadman65]

they should make i-90 have it's own route through chicago

You mean like what dzlabe proposed a hypotenuse?

[texaskdog]

Oklahoma City has a fairly good setup. The bulk of the city are served by freeways, with expressways bringing in traffic from outlying areas.

if you can get past all the potholes

[texaskdog]

Twin Cities.

They are getting better but they always underbuild.   Not enough lanes, and too many backed up expressways that should be freeways.  I-335 never built too.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Twin Cities.

They are getting better but they always underbuild.   Not enough lanes, and too many backed up expressways that should be freeways.  I-335 never built too.

Are you expecting MSP to have Texas-style freeways with 12 lanes and 4-level stacks at every major interchange?

[texaskdog]

Twin Cities.

They are getting better but they always underbuild.   Not enough lanes, and too many backed up expressways that should be freeways.  I-335 never built too.

Are you expecting MSP to have Texas-style freeways with 12 lanes and 4-level stacks at every major interchange?

LOL Traffic is worse here in Austin.  We have no East-West freeways even.  We're leaving Austin just to get away from the mess.

But I do love my stacks.

[RobbieL2415]

Disney World (Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, FL).

Multiple points of ingress and egress, clear signage, great interconnection with public roadways.

[Max Rockatansky]

Disney World (Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, FL).

Multiple points of ingress and egress, clear signage, great interconnection with public roadways.

Yeah and they all cause traffic to backup on I-4.  Everyone mainly uses I-4 since it is the only true "freeway" in the area with all the other limited access roads being tolled.  This also means surface roads in Orlando like US 17/92/441 on OBT, FL 436 on Semoran, and FL 50 on Colonial see a ton of traffic that would otherwise use a "free" limited access road.

[Henry]

I like the freeway system in my current home, Seattle, even without those that were cancelled.

[roadman65]

Disney World (Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, FL).

Multiple points of ingress and egress, clear signage, great interconnection with public roadways.

Yeah and they all cause traffic to backup on I-4.  Everyone mainly uses I-4 since it is the only true "freeway" in the area with all the other limited access roads being tolled.  This also means surface roads in Orlando like US 17/92/441 on OBT, FL 436 on Semoran, and FL 50 on Colonial see a ton of traffic that would otherwise use a "free" limited access road.

No its the GPS that puts people on I-4 and if it told them to drive the toll road they would.  I work the Beachline West Plaza and I get many people bitch and moan that they have no money because they "Did not know its a toll road" despite the signage at the ramps entering the freeway.

The majority of Disney visitors stay on International Drive so I-4 is the only main connector between the two areas.  So its the only way.

[Plutonic Panda]

What cities outside of the countries of U.S., Canada, Japan, Australia, China, and Western Europe have the best freeway systems or ones that are closest to resembling American cities?

The contenders I know of would be Santiago(Chile), Buenos Aires, and Dubai. Keep in mind, I've only skimmed some of these cities on Google Maps and have never visited them. So those are mainly guesses. Last time I looked on Google Maps, Dubai's system was underwhelming to say the least.

If I were a betting man, I'd guess that Seoul, Moscow, and Mumbai have somewhat decent set-ups.

[Rothman]

Having been to Moscow, it absolutely does not.

[Plutonic Panda]

Having been to Moscow, it absolutely does not.

Do they even have good expressways?

[Rothman]

Having been to Moscow, it absolutely does not.

Do they even have good expressways?

No.

[jaehak]

What cities outside of the countries of U.S., Canada, Japan, Australia, China, and Western Europe have the best freeway systems or ones that are closest to resembling American cities?

The contenders I know of would be Santiago(Chile), Buenos Aires, and Dubai. Keep in mind, I've only skimmed some of these cities on Google Maps and have never visited them. So those are mainly guesses. Last time I looked on Google Maps, Dubai's system was underwhelming to say the least.

If I were a betting man, I'd guess that Seoul, Moscow, and Mumbai have somewhat decent set-ups.

Seoul proper has a pretty substandard freeway system. All of the freeways within the city are fairly old, and most have 2 lanes of traffic in each direction. The 2 freeways on either side of the river are perpetually jammed. Fortunately, Seoul has arguably the best subway system in the world, but it's a terrible place to drive. 10 million city proper and 23 million in the metro area will do that. South Korea as a whole has a fine freeway system, and the shields and route numbers are modeled after the Interstate Highway system. All of the "interstates" are toll roads, but it's a well designed and efficient system. One glaring omission - the 50, which is the main highway between the Seoul metro area and the 2018 Winter Olympic site. It's woefully insufficient for bog standard 3 day weekend traffic to the coast, much less a major international event.

Dubai's system is fairly bad.

The west half of Bangkok has a pretty good freeway system (although, again, tolled).

Malaysia has a pretty good freeway network.

[RobbieL2415]

What cities outside of the countries of U.S., Canada, Japan, Australia, China, and Western Europe have the best freeway systems or ones that are closest to resembling American cities?

The contenders I know of would be Santiago(Chile), Buenos Aires, and Dubai. Keep in mind, I've only skimmed some of these cities on Google Maps and have never visited them. So those are mainly guesses. Last time I looked on Google Maps, Dubai's system was underwhelming to say the least.

If I were a betting man, I'd guess that Seoul, Moscow, and Mumbai have somewhat decent set-ups.

Seoul proper has a pretty substandard freeway system. All of the freeways within the city are fairly old, and most have 2 lanes of traffic in each direction. The 2 freeways on either side of the river are perpetually jammed. Fortunately, Seoul has arguably the best subway system in the world, but it's a terrible place to drive. 10 million city proper and 23 million in the metro area will do that. South Korea as a whole has a fine freeway system, and the shields and route numbers are modeled after the Interstate Highway system. All of the "interstates" are toll roads, but it's a well designed and efficient system. One glaring omission - the 50, which is the main highway between the Seoul metro area and the 2018 Winter Olympic site. It's woefully insufficient for bog standard 3 day weekend traffic to the coast, much less a major international event.

Dubai's system is fairly bad.

The west half of Bangkok has a pretty good freeway system (although, again, tolled).

Malaysia has a pretty good freeway network.

Have you been to China?  I know they've been throwing money at highway projects the past decade

[Roadgeekteen]

they should make i-90 have it's own route through chicago

You mean like what dzlabe proposed a hypotenuse?

I would use the lake shore drive.

[hm insulators]

The Twin Cities, with their robust and comprehensive freeway network, make Chicagoland look like a festering pile of smoldering garbage that reeks of onion breath.  Which it is.