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Interstate 73/74

Started by Voyager, January 18, 2009, 08:09:48 AM

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Strider

What will the interchange design be? A trumpet? A tri-level stack? or does anyone know? but i am glad they are finally focusing on the Rockingham bypass. Not feeling the "TO US 74" signage because you can also reach US 74 heading south on US 220 as well.


NE2

#376
Who sat on the sign?

Fixed link: http://www.gribblenation.net/i7374nc/i73seg11.html

Unless it's going to be better to exit I-74 and re-enter in Rockingham, to US 74 makes perfect sense, given that it's a western bypass.

Plans: http://dotw-xfer01.dot.state.nc.us/dsplan/2014%20Highway%20Letting/01-21-14/Digital%20Files/R3421C/
When I finish downloading I'll report on trumpetness. edit: never mind, I don't feel like figuring out how to read DGN files again.
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dfilpus

Quote from: Strider on December 22, 2013, 04:18:54 PM
What will the interchange design be? A trumpet? A tri-level stack? or does anyone know? but i am glad they are finally focusing on the Rockingham bypass. Not feeling the "TO US 74" signage because you can also reach US 74 heading south on US 220 as well.
According the diagrams in the Signing document, it is going to be a trumpet.

Strider

Quote from: NE2 on December 22, 2013, 05:01:51 PM
Who sat on the sign?

Fixed link: http://www.gribblenation.net/i7374nc/i73seg11.html

Unless it's going to be better to exit I-74 and re-enter in Rockingham, to US 74 makes perfect sense, given that it's a western bypass.

Plans: http://dotw-xfer01.dot.state.nc.us/dsplan/2014%20Highway%20Letting/01-21-14/Digital%20Files/R3421C/
When I finish downloading I'll report on trumpetness. edit: never mind, I don't feel like figuring out how to read DGN files again.


If that signage is making a perfect sense to you, they should also put up "TO US 1" on US 220 south signage as well even though the Future I-73/74 US 74 also interchanges with US 1 south of town. That's just my opinion.

Hopefully the future interchange itself is just an trumpet.

WashuOtaku

Quote from: Strider on December 23, 2013, 04:09:29 PM
If that signage is making a perfect sense to you, they should also put up "TO US 1" on US 220 south signage as well even though the Future I-73/74 US 74 also interchanges with US 1 south of town. That's just my opinion.

Hopefully the future interchange itself is just an trumpet.

I don't see the need for people on the highway know where US 1 is, especially since the interstates will also connect with US 1 once the gap is completed.

Strider

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I managed to open the file to look at the proposed interchange.. the interchange where US 220 (exit 22) will diverge from I-73/74 is going to be an trumpet.

The new exit with Haywood Cemetery Road will be folded diamond (future exit 23).

NE2

Quote from: WashuOtaku on December 23, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
I don't see the need for people on the highway know where US 1 is, especially since the interstates will also connect with US 1 once the gap is completed.
Exactly. Whereas US 74 west is a major highway to Charlotte.
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ARMOURERERIC

Does anyone foresee NC making any effort to build 73 south of Rockingham to the SC state line without any progress on 73 in SC

NE2

Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on December 24, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Does anyone foresee NC making any effort to build 73 south of Rockingham to the SC state line without any progress on 73 in SC
My Magic 8-ball is busted.
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WashuOtaku

Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on December 24, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Does anyone foresee NC making any effort to build 73 south of Rockingham to the SC state line without any progress on 73 in SC
It is my understanding that it will be SCDOT that will build that section, not NCDOT per an agreement made regarding I-73 and I-74.  Considering how South Carolina wants I-73 badly, yet can't seem to put the funds together to build it, it will be a while.

Strider

Yeah, WashuOtaku is right. SCDOT is supposed to be building that section, but that will be a long awhile. I-73 will probably just end in Rockingham for time being. With the southeast routing of I-74 from Whiteville down to SC line is still unclear, SCDOT should just shift their focus on building that section of I-73 from Rockingaham to closest town in SC near the state line.

NE2

Quote from: Strider on December 24, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
With the southeast routing of I-74 from Whiteville down to SC line is still unclear, SCDOT should just shift their focus on building that section of I-73 from Rockingaham to closest town in SC near the state line.
It's clear that it will tie into SC 31, and almost as clear that it will never be built north of Supply. But I do agree that their focus should be on I-73.
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bob7374

I have posted my I-73/I-74 Year in Review blog post for 2013. Thanks to all the AARoads Forum members who have helped keep me up to date on the latest news during this past year:
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2014/01/i-73i-74-in-nc-2013-year-in-review.html

CarolinaPaladin

Indeed it will be an interesting year in Rockingham for Interstates 73 and 74.

Regarding United States Highway 220 south, is the planned interchange a y-interchange with a flyover for US-220 southbound traffic?  The approved signage displays two lanes diverting for US-220 south.

In regards to I-73 and I-74 connecting with US-74's bypass, I would assume the current interchange with US-74 bypass and US-74 business routes would be improved.  I imagine an improved interchange similar in design to US-501 and SC-31 (Carolina Bays Parkway) in Myrtle Beach, Horry County, South Carolina.  The interchange is two opposite trumpet interchanges.  Is there a designed interchange already?

agentsteel53

Quote from: CarolinaPaladin on January 15, 2014, 12:26:01 PMconnecting with US-74's bypass, I would assume the current interchange with US-74 bypass and US-74 business routes would be improved.

you mean there's three 74s in the area!?

what a crock of shit, this I-74 mess.
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Mapmikey

Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 15, 2014, 12:51:14 PM

you mean there's three 74s in the area!?

what a crock of shit, this I-74 mess.

A little east there are 4.

East of Maxton there is an interchange involving I-74, US 74, US 74-A, and US 74 Bus

No one place shows all 4 signs in one view that I can find but here they are on opposite sides of the same bridge:
http://goo.gl/maps/ICRLM and http://goo.gl/maps/2nPhU

Mapmikey

CarolinaPaladin

Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 15, 2014, 12:51:14 PM
Quote from: CarolinaPaladin on January 15, 2014, 12:26:01 PMconnecting with US-74's bypass, I would assume the current interchange with US-74 bypass and US-74 business routes would be improved.

you mean there's three 74s in the area!?

what a crock of shit, this I-74 mess.

Quote from: Mapmikey on January 15, 2014, 01:12:45 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 15, 2014, 12:51:14 PM

you mean there's three 74s in the area!?

what a crock of shit, this I-74 mess.

A little east there are 4.

East of Maxton there is an interchange involving I-74, US 74, US 74-A, and US 74 Bus

No one place shows all 4 signs in one view that I can find but here they are on opposite sides of the same bridge:
http://goo.gl/maps/ICRLM and http://goo.gl/maps/2nPhU

Mapmikey

Four routes numbered 74 are overkill indeed. 

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2 is just about tolerable*, if one has a blue/red shield and the other has a white one: the big crime is three white-shielded 74 routes.

*There's other, bigger, horrors with the I-74 designation that make it even less tolerable.

NE2

Four parallel 'white-shielded' US 70 routes through the Smithfield-Selma area.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/35.5091/-78.2959&layers=Q
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CarolinaPaladin

Quote from: NE2 on January 15, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
Four parallel 'white-shielded' US 70 routes through the Smithfield-Selma area.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/35.5091/-78.2959&layers=Q

I-495 is designated on that map from I-440 to US-264.

WashuOtaku

Quote from: CarolinaPaladin on January 15, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
I-495 is designated on that map from I-440 to US-264.

Well, that's incorrect.  It's only between I-440 and I-540; but it is edited by regular people, so mistakes will happen... like Google maps and Apple maps.

CarolinaPaladin

Quote from: WashuOtaku on January 15, 2014, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: CarolinaPaladin on January 15, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
I-495 is designated on that map from I-440 to US-264.

Well, that's incorrect.  It's only between I-440 and I-540; but it is edited by regular people, so mistakes will happen... like Google maps and Apple maps.

It will be correct in time.  Now when I-795's northern terminus is extended to I-495...groundwork will be rolling there.

bob7374

Quote from: WashuOtaku on January 15, 2014, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: CarolinaPaladin on January 15, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
I-495 is designated on that map from I-440 to US-264.

Well, that's incorrect.  It's only between I-440 and I-540; but it is edited by regular people, so mistakes will happen... like Google maps and Apple maps.
Unlike Google maps they have placed I-74 along the entire length of the US 311 freeway from I-40 to I-73, while not signed in Forsyth County yet, its officially I-74 according to the FHWA. Like Google maps, they include I-74 on the US 74 Rockingham Bypass, but unlike Google, not on the Laurinburg/Maxton Bypass. Meanwhile, the have removed US 220 from its entire corridor south of Greensboro but still refer to Alt US 220 where it now leaves I-73/74 south of Candor.

Meanwhile, I was curious to see how old the Google Street View images along the Bypass were and what they showed for signage in the Laurinburg area, so I continued up the Bypass on Google from the link from a couple posts above. The images are from last April and still show empty signposts where the I-74 signs were. In addition, NCDOT has added a 'To' Banner to the I-74 East signage since I had last checked out the on-ramps at the NC 71 exit and also removed the I-74 reassurance shield to the east, meaning NCDOT now conforms to where the FHWA says the next segment of I-74 begins, at Alt 74/Bus. 74.

Strider

I hope NCDOT will do something with the 74 mess after I-74 is being built in the state. It's a serious mess. Some routes should be reduced to state routes. Or they can move US 74 back to the old alignment and leave just I-74. Still a mess, but less messier.



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