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What Will Become of Orange County's Toll Roads

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--- Quote from: fungus on January 27, 2021, 01:15:38 PM ---The requirement by state law is to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 40% from 1990 levels by 2030 and 80% by 2050. Because of this, anything that would generate huge VMT and couldn't be justified based on safety or operations would likely be shut down by a governor who claims to take climate change seriously. The tolling of the TCA roads clearly is not a safety or operations issue.

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If VMT increases, but stop-and-go traffic also decreases (much less idling), it's possible that greenhouse gas emissions are reduced. It depends on how much the increases and decreases are.

kernals12:

--- Quote from: fungus on January 27, 2021, 01:15:38 PM ---The requirement by state law is to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 40% from 1990 levels by 2030 and 80% by 2050. Because of this, anything that would generate huge VMT and couldn't be justified based on safety or operations would likely be shut down by a governor who claims to take climate change seriously. The tolling of the TCA roads clearly is not a safety or operations issue.

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California is banning the sale of internal combustion engine powered cars though. So it wouldn't increase CO2 emissions

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--- Quote from: kernals12 on January 27, 2021, 01:19:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: fungus on January 27, 2021, 01:15:38 PM ---The requirement by state law is to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 40% from 1990 levels by 2030 and 80% by 2050. Because of this, anything that would generate huge VMT and couldn't be justified based on safety or operations would likely be shut down by a governor who claims to take climate change seriously. The tolling of the TCA roads clearly is not a safety or operations issue.

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California is banning the sale of internal combustion engine powered cars though. So it wouldn't increase CO2 emissions

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1. Existing cars are still gasoline and will be using these roads.
2. Electric cars use electricity. It's not free energy.

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3. By 2035. There are still 14 years remaining.

kernals12:

--- Quote from: 1 on January 27, 2021, 01:22:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: kernals12 on January 27, 2021, 01:19:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: fungus on January 27, 2021, 01:15:38 PM ---The requirement by state law is to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 40% from 1990 levels by 2030 and 80% by 2050. Because of this, anything that would generate huge VMT and couldn't be justified based on safety or operations would likely be shut down by a governor who claims to take climate change seriously. The tolling of the TCA roads clearly is not a safety or operations issue.

--- End quote ---

California is banning the sale of internal combustion engine powered cars though. So it wouldn't increase CO2 emissions

--- End quote ---

1. Existing cars are still gasoline and will be using these roads.
2. Electric cars use electricity. It's not free energy.

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3. By 2035. There are still 14 years remaining.

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By 2035, it'll be coming almost entirely from solar and wind power.

Max Rockatansky:
Has CARB actually taken up the whole 2035 edict by Newsom?  There are some serious doubts regarding whether the infrastructure (especially the failing state wide electrical grid) will be there to support an entirely electric passenger car market.  If I recall correctly commercial vehicles were not part of the 2035 directive?

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