NFL (2024 Season)

[JayhawkCO]

With the Vikings making three early defensive moves and letting Cousins walk, I would not be surprised at all to see them package picks to trade up into the top 3 and get a QB.

And now they've made a trade to acquire another first rounder. Another trade no doubt incoming (whether for a top 3 pick or maybe Herbert).

Hopefully with the Bears for the #1 pick.

I highly doubt the Bears would trade in the division. I think the Patriots are most likely to be willing trade partners.

[webny99]

With the Vikings making three early defensive moves and letting Cousins walk, I would not be surprised at all to see them package picks to trade up into the top 3 and get a QB.

And now they've made a trade to acquire another first rounder. Another trade no doubt incoming (whether for a top 3 pick or maybe Herbert).

Hopefully with the Bears for the #1 pick.

I highly doubt the Bears would trade in the division. I think the Patriots are most likely to be willing trade partners.

The Pats trading Mac Jones makes me think they're taking a QB.




Also, Kenny Pickett to the Eagles. That's a surprise, I figured he'd get a chance to start in Pittsburgh, though sharing a QB room with Russell Wilson doesn't sound appealing.

[thspfc]

I think the Vikings could have some issues with finding a trade partner in their desired range. Obviously there's always a price, but to get the Cardinals/Chargers to sacrifice Marvin Harrison Jr./Malik Nabers will not be cheap, especially after both those teams have lost their top receiver in the last day or two. Chargers lost their top two. I would think it's going to take 11, 23, and next year's first at minimum. It also doesn't help that those two teams (AZ LAC) essentially have a duopoly on the trading-up-for-QB market, as there are four guys that are seen as elite prospects and three of them are likely to go 1-2-3. (Whether the fourth guy, JJ McCarthy, is an elite prospect depends on who you ask, but that's a different discussion that will be run into the ground on social media over the next six weeks.)

Speaking of the Chargers losing their receivers . . . the Keenan Allen "trade". Wow. Of the four guys that were plauging their cap (Allen, Williams, Mack, Bosa), he's the last one I would've given up. That offense would have been nothing without him last year. As of now Herbert will be throwing to nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon dioxide. Mack had a great year but is aging, Bosa is not an elite pass rusher by any stretch right now. If they held on to Allen they could more easily afford to trade back in the draft and stockpile defense and o-line, without the dire need for a WR.

From the Bears side, the trade is a robbery and Caleb Williams is coming into an absolute dream situation.

The Vikings are also a very good spot for a rookie QB to begin his career, with the three -sons catching passes and now Aaron Jones providing consistent RB play. Ty Chandler also has star potential. The issue is that they're in a division with two Super Bowl contenders and another team that is clearly better than them, so they're unlikely to be a playoff team next year.

[webny99]

I think the Vikings could have some issues with finding a trade partner in their desired range. Obviously there's always a price, but to get the Cardinals/Chargers to sacrifice Marvin Harrison Jr./Malik Nabers will not be cheap, especially after both those teams have lost their top receiver in the last day or two. Chargers lost their top two. I would think it's going to take 11, 23, and next year's first at minimum. It also doesn't help that those two teams (AZ LAC) essentially have a duopoly on the trading-up-for-QB market, as there are four guys that are seen as elite prospects and three of them are likely to go 1-2-3. (Whether the fourth guy, JJ McCarthy, is an elite prospect depends on who you ask, but that's a different discussion that will be run into the ground on social media over the next six weeks.)

I don't think this means the Vikings are planning to trade up, but it does give them some flexibility to draft a QB. If they're fine with McCarthy, it could actually help them that the Chargers and Cardinals will be fine drafting non-QB's at 4 and 5 since the teams drafting 6-10 don't urgently need to draft a QB. They could then move up a bit to get McCarthy, or hope he falls to them and pick another solid player at 23. In light of this, I don't think there's any chance McCarthy makes it past the Vikings unless one of the top 3 QB's somehow falls within their reach.

[thspfc]

Fields got traded for less than Trey Lance did.

[NWI_Irish96]

Fields got traded for less than Trey Lance did.

Bears should have kept him for a backup if that's all they got for him.

[webny99]

Wow. Hiring Arthur Smith, signing Wilson, trading Pickett away and now trading for Fields is as un-Steelers like a set of moves as anything we've seen this century. Is it just a bunch of shots at the dartboard, or an real plan to make a playoff run this season?

[epzik8]

Mitch Trubisky ending up in Buffalo further fuels my desire to see Mason Rudolph as the starter in Pittsburgh.

So of course they made him their third-stringer going into the season...

[Ted$8roadFan]

Why do I get the feeling that, post-trade, the Steelers won't screw up as badly as the Bears?

[triplemultiplex]

Chicago putting all their chips on a high draft pick for QB.  I'm sure that'll work this time.

No one makes that pick more poorly than Da Bears.
... Maybe Cleveland...

I don't know if I like Green Bay letting Jones go free and bringing in Josh Jacobs.  The way he acted with the Raiders last off season gives me tremendous pause.  Tells me he's probably a head case.  Jones was great when he was healthy; or at least good enough for the Packers to play complimentary football.  I know that generation of backs is getting "old" but I feel like Jones has more in the tank mentally than Jacobs does.  I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm pessimistic about Jacobs.

[hobsini2]

Chicago putting all their chips on a high draft pick for QB.  I'm sure that'll work this time.

No one makes that pick more poorly than Da Bears.
... Maybe Cleveland...

I don't know if I like Green Bay letting Jones go free and bringing in Josh Jacobs.  The way he acted with the Raiders last off season gives me tremendous pause.  Tells me he's probably a head case.  Jones was great when he was healthy; or at least good enough for the Packers to play complimentary football.  I know that generation of backs is getting "old" but I feel like Jones has more in the tank mentally than Jacobs does.  I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm pessimistic about Jacobs.

Just for fun, here are the QBs the Bears have drafted in the 1st Rd since 1950...
1950 Bob Williams (2)
1982 Jim McMahon (5)
1987 Jim Harbaugh (26)
1999 Cade McNown (12)
2003 Rex Grossman (22)
2017 Mitch Trubisky (2)
2021 Justin Fields (11)

[epzik8]

Where did J.J. McCarthy come from all of a sudden?

[JayhawkCO]

Where did J.J. McCarthy come from all of a sudden?

The National Champs?

[epzik8]

Where did J.J. McCarthy come from all of a sudden?

The National Champs?

Somehow, that already slipped out of my mind.

[NWI_Irish96]

Where did J.J. McCarthy come from all of a sudden?

The National Champs?

For now

[epzik8]

I caught some of Jayden Daniels' LSU Pro Day appearance today. He's going to be our QB1 in Landover come September. Mel Kiper is seldom wrong.

[NWI_Irish96]

I caught some of Jayden Daniels' LSU Pro Day appearance today. He's going to be our QB1 in Landover come September. Mel Kiper is seldom wrong.

Like when he said it was a huge mistake for the Colts to draft Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf?

[Henry]

I caught some of Jayden Daniels' LSU Pro Day appearance today. He's going to be our QB1 in Landover come September. Mel Kiper is seldom wrong.

Like when he said it was a huge mistake for the Colts to draft Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf?

Kiper was wrong on that one. Ryan Leaf is a dick.

[JayhawkCO]

I caught some of Jayden Daniels' LSU Pro Day appearance today. He's going to be our QB1 in Landover come September. Mel Kiper is seldom wrong.

Like when he said it was a huge mistake for the Colts to draft Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf?

Kiper was wrong on that one. Ryan Leaf is a dick.

Ryan Leaf is an alcoholic in recovery. I'm sure that contributed to his dick-ness.

[hobsini2]

I caught some of Jayden Daniels' LSU Pro Day appearance today. He's going to be our QB1 in Landover come September. Mel Kiper is seldom wrong.

I sure hope you were being sarcastic. For your viewing pleasure, here is "Every NFL Team's Draft Pick that Mel Kiper was HORRIBLY Wrong About".
https://youtu.be/uGYeW-lFDFY?si=Jtw3qRSnpRoa_3Qw

[epzik8]

I agree with Mike Tannenbaum that the Cowboys should pursue Michael Penix Jr., just because I'm tired of hearing about Dak Prescott.

[epzik8]

Well, my fellow Washingtonians on socials can't decide whether Daniels or Maye will be better than us.

[NWI_Irish96]

Well, my fellow Washingtonians on socials can't decide whether Daniels or Maye will be better than us.

My QB rankings:

1 Williams
2 Penix
3 May
4 Daniels
5 Nix
6 McCarthy

[webny99]

Stefon Diggs has been traded to the Texans for a 2025 second round draft pick. Didn't think this would really happen, but history has a way of repeating itself.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-trade-wr-stefon-diggs-to-texans-for-2025-second-round-draft-pick

[JayhawkCO]

Stefon Diggs has been traded to the Texans for a 2025 second round draft pick. Didn't think this would really happen, but history has a way of repeating itself.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-trade-wr-stefon-diggs-to-texans-for-2025-second-round-draft-pick

Vikings definitely won the trade when they got rid of him. He's a diva even by WR standards.