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Title: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on December 12, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
A project to widen the 32 mile section from OH 199 in Perrysburg to Hancock CR 99 just north of Findlay has already begun, projected to be done in 2016: http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/06/18/Construction-begins-to-widen-I-75-from-Perrysburg-to-Findlay-copy.html

Another 5 mile section is proposed for the remaining stretch through Findlay itself, which includes redoing the OH 15/US 68 interchange with I-75. The interchange currently has Toeldo to Columbus traffic using a loop ramp to get from 75 to 15. Two of the three options for the new interchange would replace that with a flyover, the other would keep a loop there but increase the deceleration lane. All 3 options also involve new ramps to greatly improve access to/from nearby Lima Ave. http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/PlanningPrograms/Projects/hancock75/Pages/default.aspx

And on the topic of widening I-75 in Ohio, here's an article about why the big rebuilding project currently going on in Lima does NOT include a 3rd lane being added: http://www.limaohio.com/news/opinion_columns/922637/Jim-Krumel:-I-75-project-shy-of-complete-package 

Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: tdindy88 on December 12, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Now if only can reroute US 23 all the way up to Findlay and up I-75 to I-475 and onto its present route west of Toledo.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: skluth on December 13, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
Quote from: tdindy88 on December 12, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Now if only can reroute US 23 all the way up to Findlay and up I-75 to I-475 and onto its present route west of Toledo.

Honestly, I'd be happy if Ohio just connected US 30 and I-75 directly.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: NE2 on December 13, 2014, 02:17:24 AM
Quote from: skluth on December 13, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
Honestly, I'd be happy if Ohio just connected US 30 and I-75 directly.
Why? Do you often go through there and have problems with the current layout?
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: skluth on December 14, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 13, 2014, 02:17:24 AM
Quote from: skluth on December 13, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
Honestly, I'd be happy if Ohio just connected US 30 and I-75 directly.
Why? Do you often go through there and have problems with the current layout?
I was traveling cross-country back in the 80's and needed to get from 30 to 75. It was pretty easy as opposed to the idiocy of Breezewood. But considering US 30 is a freeway at that point, it would make sense to complete it. I haven't gone that way since then.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on December 15, 2014, 12:17:13 AM
I typically go through there 1-3 times per year, and I don't find it all that bad. I actually kind of like it when going from 30 west to 75 south, since the brief Lincoln Highway stretch acts as a buffer zone between the easy lulling feel of cruising down 30 and the more tense feel on a much more crowded 75. Plus, I'm often in need of either gas or a restroom break when in that area, and there are 3 tucks stops conveniently located right there. The most annoyance I've gotten from that configuration is trying to explain it when giving directions.

Though I could see where someone who had to go from 75 north to 30 east on a daily basis would get annoyed with it. That one movement could be solved pretty easily with a direct ramp, though any of the other movements would be much more difficult to pull off due to the location of a nearby railroad track and a local road with a partial interchange. A full interchange project wouldn't be worth it IMO, I'd rather see more widening of 75. 

Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: PurdueBill on December 30, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on December 15, 2014, 12:17:13 AM
I typically go through there 1-3 times per year, and I don't find it all that bad. I actually kind of like it when going from 30 west to 75 south, since the brief Lincoln Highway stretch acts as a buffer zone between the easy lulling feel of cruising down 30 and the more tense feel on a much more crowded 75. Plus, I'm often in need of either gas or a restroom break when in that area, and there are 3 tucks stops conveniently located right there. The most annoyance I've gotten from that configuration is trying to explain it when giving directions.

Though I could see where someone who had to go from 75 north to 30 east on a daily basis would get annoyed with it. That one movement could be solved pretty easily with a direct ramp, though any of the other movements would be much more difficult to pull off due to the location of a nearby railroad track and a local road with a partial interchange. A full interchange project wouldn't be worth it IMO, I'd rather see more widening of 75. 



When passing through on US 30 and stopping for gas (or occasionally exiting 75 NB for 30 EB), I just stay on old Lincoln Highway over to OH 235 or someting, then jog to US 30.  The ridiculous loop ramp for entry to US 30 EB adds about a mile.

Last winter I was driving that way in clear weather but blowing snow that had already fallen, and you could not even really find the loop ramp.  That was the one time I've taken it in something like 8 years, and that was because I didn't want to trek down the old road in that weather in case there was some problem.  At least on modern US 30 someone would see someone in distress.  Not that the ramp is any better.

Completing the connections would probably involve taking properties that aren't worth it.  The connection via OH 696 isn't all that bad considering the volumes.  There are other places like 475 being blown off by the Turnpike that could use fixing but also probably will never see it.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: vtk on January 08, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
I did I-75 NB to US 30 WB last winter.  Didn't take a shortcut west of Lima on the theory that 2-lane roads (even state routes) would be more likely snow-covered, as ODOT was struggling to keep up plowing the Interstates that night.  Got stuck behind a truck doing the same movement.  That guy didn't break 10 MPH between the I-75 exit and the US 30 entrance, and he took an extra long time decelerating and accelerating on the ramps too.  I'm not convinced he would have moved much faster in fair weather.  Point is, making that transfer is extremely annoying for a small number of people.

Back on topic, I'm glad to hear this part of I-75 is getting another lane each way.  It's been needed for a long time.  (And Lima probably can indeed wait.)
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: lepidopteran on July 06, 2015, 11:10:23 AM
Toledo Blade -- Accidents, delays soar in I-75 work zone (http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2015/07/06/Accidents-delays-soar-in-I-75-work-zone.html#8oSEO1uCWzvUThE9.99)
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: 6a on July 11, 2015, 08:51:21 PM
That seriously reads like it's the first road construction project in Toledo history.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on December 28, 2015, 09:04:59 PM
Update on the widening project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRp3ovjf_UU
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on December 30, 2015, 08:44:35 PM
And here's an update on the widening/rebuild project on 75 within the city of Toledo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gZux5D8Q5E
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: thenetwork on January 02, 2016, 12:04:32 PM
Glad to see I-75 FINALLY going to three-lanes in each direction through there.  That was always a pinch point for both North/South thru traffic as well as crosstown East/West traffic.

Many Toledo freeway memories as a little kid when I would go see my aunt in Detroit.  I remember the days when:

- I-75 was two-lanes per direction from I-280 to the state line.
- Alexis Road (OH-184) was not even competed to I-75 yet.
- I-75 NORTH of the state line was 2-lanes in each direction!!!
- I-280 was mostly at-grade intersections south of Woodville Road (OH-51). 
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: westerninterloper on January 04, 2016, 11:42:06 AM
I just returned from a road trip to Florida, and was surprised at how many interstates along the way were fully six-laned - I-75 through half of Kentucky, I-65 through all of that commonwealth, and I-75 all the way through Georgia. This was particularly noticeable in Tennessee, where I-65 goes back to four lanes just north of Nashville.

Not having driven in those states for about 20 years, I though that the Ohio Turnpike from Cleveland to Toledo was unique in having long-distance six-lanes (I-71 is now too from Cols to Cle, right? I haven't driven that), but now I wonder why Ohio isn't moving more quickly to 6-lane all of I-75 through the state. The stretch from Findlay to Piqua is busy enough to warrant it, I would think.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on January 04, 2016, 01:51:58 PM
Quote from: westerninterloper on January 04, 2016, 11:42:06 AM
I-71 is now too from Cols to Cle, right?

Yes

Quote
now I wonder why Ohio isn't moving more quickly to 6-lane all of I-75 through the state. The stretch from Findlay to Piqua is busy enough to warrant it, I would think.

Agreed
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: GaryV on January 04, 2016, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: westerninterloper on January 04, 2016, 11:42:06 AM
I just returned from a road trip to Florida, and was surprised at how many interstates along the way were fully six-laned - I-75 through half of Kentucky, .., and I-75 all the way through Georgia.
And the southernmost 160 miles of I-75 in Michigan too.  Except for a short stretch near Flint and the ramps to/from I-75 (Chrysler Freeway) / I-75 (Fisher Freeway) in Detroit.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: The Great Zo on January 07, 2016, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: westerninterloper on January 04, 2016, 11:42:06 AMThe stretch from Findlay to Piqua is busy enough to warrant it, I would think.

They've been working on a significant reconstruction project on I-75 in and southwest of Lima, and to my untrained eyes, it doesn't appear that it's been built in a way that will accommodate three lanes in the future. There has also been a lot of resurfacing between Lima and Dayton in the past year or two, which might indicate they don't have any immediate plans for widening.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on January 14, 2016, 11:28:03 AM
Quote from: The Great Zo on January 07, 2016, 07:11:00 PM
They've been working on a significant reconstruction project on I-75 in and southwest of Lima, and to my untrained eyes, it doesn't appear that it's been built in a way that will accommodate three lanes in the future.

Yeah, I was through there last week and noticed that as well. And the section immediately north of Lima to at least US 30 has several overpasses where there doesn't appear to be enough room to squeeze in a 3rd lane between the existing left lane and the bridge abutments in the median.

Though one good thing I noticed was that the speed limit is now 70 on the parts of the Lima section that are done (northern section.) Maybe that means the whole Lima area will be 70 once the project is done
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on February 11, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
They are also renovating the rest areas/welcome center near Bowling Green while the ramps are closed due to the widening project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiyxYcQrKuo
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: westerninterloper on July 07, 2016, 08:37:53 PM
The main part of the construction on I-75 between Perrysburg and Findlay is scheduled to be complete "in the fall" according to ODOT District 2; the Perrysburg 75-475 interchange should reopen in September. Will be a much much smoother drive in a few months!
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on September 13, 2016, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: westerninterloper on July 07, 2016, 08:37:53 PM
the Perrysburg 75-475 interchange should reopen in September.

Should be anytime now, as it's already been 6 days since they posted this "teaser trailer" about the ramps opening soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9etgFkr1ahY 
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: renegade on September 14, 2016, 02:43:18 PM
^^ I wonder how much money they spent on that?
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: mvak36 on September 14, 2016, 03:53:35 PM
So after this project is done, how much of 75 would be left to 3-lane in the state?
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on September 14, 2016, 06:07:39 PM
Just saw on the Toledo news that Tuesday at 6am is the currently scheduled time for the ramps to open at 75/475

Quote from: mvak36 on September 14, 2016, 03:53:35 PM
So after this project is done, how much of 75 would be left to 3-lane in the state?

Everything from Findlay to Troy, which is about 85 miles, but it doesn't look like 3 laning the whole will happen anytime soon. For example, there's a major I-75 rebuilding project nearing completion in the Lima area that did not include 3 laning the interstate.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: westerninterloper on September 14, 2016, 08:11:34 PM
Quote from: renegade on September 14, 2016, 02:43:18 PM
^^ I wonder how much money they spent on that?

The music was dumb.
I saw another video in the local paper that said two of the I-475/I-75 ramps will open by Friday morning, and the rest by the following Tuesday. Also, the six-laning is essentially complete between the OH25 Cygnet interchange and US6, but when I drove it last weekend the inside lands were still coned off. It looks like the section between US 6 and OH 582 is almost complete as well; much of it should be opening in the next few weeks....finally.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: westerninterloper on December 09, 2016, 05:42:54 PM
This project is substantially complete from about Cygnet (OH25 and I-75, Exit 171, and Perrysburg. I think one lane may still be closed in each direction between SR 582 and I-475. The I75-475 interchange is also mostly complete, and work has begun on the new SPUI interchange at SR 25 and I-475 in Perrysburg.

Work remains on the sections between Findlay and Cygnet.

Around Toledo, construction projects on I-475 from about Exit 6 to the US23/I-475 split are also complete for the year. The Central Avenue interchange is open and mostly complete, although it needs (better/any) signage.

I-75 in Central Toledo between downtown and the I-475/75 split in central Toledo is complete and looks great; there is still a lot of work to do between the split and the I-75/280 interchange on the north side, but there are currently no detours. Next year ODOT will be reconstructing I-75 from downtown south to the river bridge.

Once those projects are complete, Toledo metro's interstates will be in very good shape - nearly all of it (except a bit of I-475 on the northwest side) will have been rebuilt in the last five to seven years.

Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on January 17, 2017, 04:47:22 PM
Adding a 3rd lane to the CR 199 to OH 15/US 68 section through Findlay is listed in the Tier 2 section of the TRAC 4 year plan draft, but has no money budgeted for it, so it will likely be a long time before that ever gets done.

District 1's page about the project says it's scheduled to have the contract awarded and construction started in 2017, though I would imagine that page hasn't been updated in quite a while: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/PlanningPrograms/Projects/hancock75/Pages/default.aspx
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: westerninterloper on January 18, 2017, 09:09:41 PM
That's good to know - I think it is a change. Construction was projected to start on those sections next year, but when I drove down that way recently, everything was cleaned up and it looked like no work was imminent. Either way, the stretch from just north of Findlay to Perrysburg is fantastic now.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on February 03, 2017, 06:34:44 PM
Newly renovated northbound I-75 rest area near Bowling Green is now open:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJKWb16Mh74
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on February 14, 2017, 11:05:05 AM
Huh, so according to this District 1 press release, the widening of 75 thru Findlay and the reconstruction of the I-75/OH 15/US 68 and OH 15/US 68/Lima Ave interchanges will be starting this year. Excellent!

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/newsreleases/Pages/Beaver-Excavating-apparent-low-bidder-for-I-75-Hancock-project.aspx

QuoteBeaver Excavating apparent low bidder for Interstate 75 project
I-75 through Findlay, Hancock County to be under construction this spring

LIMA (Thursday, February 9, 2017) Beaver Excavating Company, Canton, is the apparent low bidder for a project which will reconstruct and widen Interstate 75 through Findlay and Hancock County beginning this spring
The apparent successful bid was $113.2 million. The contract will be officially awarded in approximately two weeks once a review of all bidding documents is complete.
The project will take place from just south of Harrison Street/County Road 144, which is just south of the Ohio 15/U.S. Route 68 interchange, to the County Road 99 interchange in Findlay. The project will reconstruct the existing pavement on Interstate 75, add a third travel lane in both the northbound and southbound direction, reconstruct the interchange between U.S. 68/state Route 15 and Interstate 75, and upgrade the roadway to modern highway standards.
"A modern, expanded and greatly-improved interstate is on the other side of what will be an estimated three seasons of construction,"  said Kirk Slusher, Ohio Department of Transportation District 1 deputy director. "We look forward to beginning this phase of improvement to the Interstate 75 corridor which is one of the most important in the region and the state,"  he said.
The project also includes:
·       Replacement of the Harrison Street overpass
·       Redesign and reconstruction of the interchange with U.S. 68/state Route 15 at Lima Avenue
·       Construction of noise walls along the interstate at the following locations:
o   Adjacent to Carlin Road north of County Road 313 and south of Harrison Street/County Road 144 on the east side of the interstate
o   Adjacent to Broad Avenue between U.S. 224/Trenton Avenue and Bigelow Avenue/County Road 96 on the east and west side of the interstate
o   Adjacent to Crosshill Drive from north of Bigelow Avenue/County Road 96 to just north of Hillshafer Drive on the east side of the interstate
Construction on the project is expected to begin early this spring once the contract is officially awarded.
This section of Interstate 75, which was originally constructed in the 1950s, last saw major work in 1989.
Work currently under way on Interstate 75 north of Findlay will continue through fall of this year. A $135.7 million project on Interstate 75 through Lima and Allen County from the Auglaize County line to just north of state Route 81 was completed last fall.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: frankenroad on February 14, 2017, 11:52:09 AM
Although I agree this needs to be done, I am not looking forward to three summers of going to Marblehead and dealing with this construction.   But, I guess it won't be so bad compared to the 10+ years of 75 reconstruction through Dayton that I dealt with. :-D
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on February 14, 2017, 03:01:23 PM
Here are the plans for the interchange they are building:
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/PlanningPrograms/Projects/hancock75/Documents/87005MOTAA-Exhibit1%2036x36.pdf

- both ramps from I-75 to OH 15/US 68 will also have ramps splitting from them to Lima Ave
- the I-75 south to OH 15/US 68 ramp will be a big sweeping flyover, replacing a loop
- Lima Ave to I-75 will have its own ramp that splits and connects to the separate ramps from OH 15/US 68 to I-75 north and south.
- Lima Ave will be relocated and have 2 roundabouts

They also have a conceptual signing plan posted. Here the page showing the reconstructed interchanges:
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/PlanningPrograms/Projects/hancock75/Documents/IMStp001.pdf
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: frankenroad on February 14, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
It appears that someone traveling North/West on 68/15 who wants to stay on 15 will have trouble following 15 as it is omitted from most of the "75 NORTH Toledo" signs.  Nor is there an "END 68" sign.

Also, on NB 75, the pull-through sign should read "NORTH 75, WEST 15."
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: vtk on February 14, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
I'm having trouble imagining how that would be phased without months-long closures of the 75N to 15E and 15W to 75S ramps and temporarily introducing even sharper curves on the looping 75S to 15E ramp.  And I don't like Columbus being relegated to a single auxilliary guide sign for each direction on 75, especially so near an exit with Columbus Grove displayed as a destination.  IMO Columbus should be displayed as the primary destination for exit 156, at least on southbound I-75.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on February 15, 2017, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: vtk on February 14, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
I'm having trouble imagining how that would be phased without months-long closures of the 75N to 15E and 15W to 75S ramps and temporarily introducing even sharper curves on the looping 75S to 15E ramp.  And I don't like Columbus being relegated to a single auxilliary guide sign for each direction on 75, especially so near an exit with Columbus Grove displayed as a destination.  IMO Columbus should be displayed as the primary destination for exit 156, at least on southbound I-75.

Columbus and Kenton are the primary destinations listed on the current signage, with Carey being the one relegated to an auxiliary sign. Though for the new plan it looks like it's addition of Lima Ave that's screwing things up.

Quote from: frankenroad on February 14, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
It appears that someone traveling North/West on 68/15 who wants to stay on 15 will have trouble following 15 as it is omitted from most of the "75 NORTH Toledo" signs.  Nor is there an "END 68" sign.

Also, on NB 75, the pull-through sign should read "NORTH 75, WEST 15."

True. Though it is kind of awkward the way 15 goes around Findlay with 75 and then has that long concurrency with 224 to Ottawa, where it become a more north/south route. They moved 15 off it's original Findlay to Carey alignment (current OH 568) back when the expressway was built in the 60's, and I wish they would have either just left 15 where it was, or better yet truncated it at Ottawa. That way the expressway from 75 to 23 could have been given an X23 number. I think OH 223 would have worked nicely (take 223 to 23)
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: frankenroad on February 15, 2017, 10:27:09 AM
Quote
True. Though it is kind of awkward the way 15 goes around Findlay with 75 and then has that long concurrency with 224 to Ottawa, where it become a more north/south route. They moved 15 off it's original Findlay to Carey alignment (current OH 568) back when the expressway was built in the 60's, and I wish they would have either just left 15 where it was, or better yet truncated it at Ottawa. That way the expressway from 75 to 23 could have been given an X23 number. I think OH 223 would have worked nicely (take 223 to 23)

Even better, IMHO, is that 23 should have been routed over the new expressway and then be multiplexed with 75 from Findlay to 475.  Current 23 could have been numbered 623 (the only x23 available, since there is a US-223, short though it is.) from Carey to US-20.   Or it could have been a southern extension of 420.

That makes it more straightforward for non-roadgeeks.   "Take 23 all the way from Columbus to Toledo."

And really, Michigan should truncate 223 where it hits 23 near Lambertville.

They should just put us in charge, and we could fix it all  :-D
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on February 15, 2017, 10:46:52 AM
Quote from: frankenroad on February 15, 2017, 10:27:09 AM
Even better, IMHO, is that 23 should have been routed over the new expressway and then be multiplexed with 75 from Findlay to 475.  Current 23 could have been numbered 623 (the only x23 available, since there is a US-223, short though it is.) from Carey to US-20.   Or it could have been a southern extension of 420.

That makes it more straightforward for non-roadgeeks.   "Take 23 all the way from Columbus to Toledo."

And really, Michigan should truncate 223 where it hits 23 near Lambertville.

They should just put us in charge, and we could fix it all  :-D

Yeah, I agree that would be even better. And they could have left 15 where it was.

Totally forgot about US 223 entering Ohio.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: sparker on February 15, 2017, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on February 15, 2017, 10:46:52 AM
Quote from: frankenroad on February 15, 2017, 10:27:09 AM
Even better, IMHO, is that 23 should have been routed over the new expressway and then be multiplexed with 75 from Findlay to 475.  Current 23 could have been numbered 623 (the only x23 available, since there is a US-223, short though it is.) from Carey to US-20.   Or it could have been a southern extension of 420.

That makes it more straightforward for non-roadgeeks.   "Take 23 all the way from Columbus to Toledo."

And really, Michigan should truncate 223 where it hits 23 near Lambertville.

They should just put us in charge, and we could fix it all  :-D

Yeah, I agree that would be even better. And they could have left 15 where it was.

Totally forgot about US 223 entering Ohio.

Or just extend 223 through Toledo (51/280/420) and let it take over current US 23 down through Carey.  Give US 223 a little more reason to exist in the first place (a real 2-state route). 
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: lepidopteran on February 15, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
Quote from: sparker on February 15, 2017, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on February 15, 2017, 10:46:52 AM

Totally forgot about US 223 entering Ohio.

Or just extend 223 through Toledo (51/280/420) and let it take over current US 23 down through Carey.  Give US 223 a little more reason to exist in the first place (a real 2-state route).

Don't forget that US-223 did go through Toledo until about 1985.  It was Monroe St., now SR-51.  At Summit St. it turned left, and I think it kept the designation at least as far as I-280 near the Craig Memorial Bridge (drawspan edition).  Hmmm...
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: thenetwork on February 16, 2017, 02:37:34 AM
Quote from: lepidopteran on February 15, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
Quote from: sparker on February 15, 2017, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on February 15, 2017, 10:46:52 AM

Totally forgot about US 223 entering Ohio.

Or just extend 223 through Toledo (51/280/420) and let it take over current US 23 down through Carey.  Give US 223 a little more reason to exist in the first place (a real 2-state route).

Don't forget that US-223 did go through Toledo until about 1985.  It was Monroe St., now SR-51.  At Summit St. it turned left, and I think it kept the designation at least as far as I-280 near the Craig Memorial Bridge (drawspan edition).  Hmmm...

You are correct.  Same time as when SR- (former US-) 25 and US-24 flipped their alignments northeast of Maumee, with SR-25 now going into downtown and ending at I-280 via the Greenbelt Parkway, and SR-120 turning south at Cherry Street and ending downtown instead of at I-280.

Then again, US-68 once ran all the way north to Downtown Toledo as well....
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on February 16, 2017, 12:07:29 PM
75 around Lima is really nice now that the rebuild project is completed. Just too bad they couldn't justify the extra $40M it would have taken to 6 lane it while they were there.

They did widen it enough to install a median, and a result it's now posted as 70mph.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: frankenroad on February 16, 2017, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on February 16, 2017, 12:07:29 PM
75 around Lima is really nice now that the rebuild project is completed. Just too bad they couldn't justify the extra $40M it would have taken to 6 lane it while they were there.

They did widen it enough to install a median, and a result it's now posted as 70mph.

I was disappointed to see that they did not make the bridges wide enough to accommodate another lane when they rebuilt them.   Seems short-sighted to me.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: lepidopteran on February 16, 2017, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on February 16, 2017, 12:07:29 PM
75 around Lima is really nice now that the rebuild project is completed. Just too bad they couldn't justify the extra $40M it would have taken to 6 lane it while they were there.

They did widen it enough to install a median, and a result it's now posted as 70mph.
Who remembers when there was a large RR bridge over I-75 in Lima?  I seem to recall it had tight embankments on either side which would have prevented widening to 6 lanes at that point.

The railroad, which was located a little south of where the Sam's Club is now, was abandoned circa 1983, but I think the bridge remained for several years after.  Not sure when the bridge was finally dismantled, though I suspect it was sometime in the '90s.  The tracks were part of the Erie-Lackawanna's "West End", a high-quality mainline that ran from Marion, OH to Chicagoland (or at least as far as Hammond, IN).  Most railfans agree that it was abandoned only because it never became part of Conrail; to be fair, there was a lot of rail redundancy in the area.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on March 20, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
Just saw on the Toledo news that the project in Findlay is getting underway today.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: okroads on March 21, 2017, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: Buck87 on March 20, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
Just saw on the Toledo news that the project in Findlay is getting underway today.

I drove I-75 through Findlay in both directions on Sunday and noticed tree clearing was already underway at that time.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on December 08, 2017, 12:24:06 PM
Here's the latest update on the Findlay project:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/Documents/Hancock%20I-75/I75HancockDec12017.pdf

work is underway on the flyover ramp
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: JustMePatrick on July 18, 2018, 05:11:58 PM
UPDATE:

In the Last Couple of Weeks Northbound Traffic Between US 224 and County Road 99 in Findlay was shifted to the southbound side.  Currently 2 lanes in each direction occupy the southbound side.    The exits from NB 75 to US 224 and from US 224 to NB 75 closed at the same time for reconstruction. All lanes North of US 224 are slated for completion by late fall with final blacktop next year.

Construction continues for the new flyover ramp from SB 75 to SR 15/ US68 and Lima Avenue. The Bridge over the railroad tracks is nearly complete with the parapet walls having recently been set.  Currently the beams flying over 75 are being set. The Flyover ramp is slated to be open by sometime in September of this year (2018).

Lanes on the Southbound side From SR 15/ US 68 to US 224 are being prepped to move the Northbound Lanes over to the Southbound side.

In September Lima Ave in Findlay will close for 1 year for the reconstruction of that interchange and the construction of a roundabout.   

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFcupd9fu9maJTH4A (https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFcupd9fu9maJTH4A) Photo is captured from the OHGO (ohgo.com) at the SR 15/ US 68 / Lima Ave. Interchange.

I drive this route to work daily it's fun to see the changes and progress. In Sept. I get to find a different route to work :sombrero:.

No sooner than I post this and ODOT posts an update: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/PlanningPrograms/Projects/hancock75/Project%20Updates/Interstate%2075%20lanes%20shift%20tonight,%20bridge%20beam%20setting%20to%20affect%20traffic%20next%20week.pdf (http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/PlanningPrograms/Projects/hancock75/Project%20Updates/Interstate%2075%20lanes%20shift%20tonight,%20bridge%20beam%20setting%20to%20affect%20traffic%20next%20week.pdf)

Summary, I mention the lane shifts above from 68 to 224, that occurs tonight.   Next week they will continue to set beams over 75 for the fly over ramp. 
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on July 23, 2018, 10:43:54 AM
Thanks for the update and welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on September 10, 2018, 09:02:25 PM
A project related to I-75:
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D02/newsreleases/Pages/I-75-at-Wooster-StSR-64-Interchange-Project-Announcement.aspx

At the OH 64 interchange in Bowling Green (right next to BGSU's campus) ODOT is replacing the signalized ramp intersections with roundabouts and rehabilitating the bridge over I-75
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: westerninterloper on September 13, 2018, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on September 10, 2018, 09:02:25 PM
A project related to I-75:
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D02/newsreleases/Pages/I-75-at-Wooster-StSR-64-Interchange-Project-Announcement.aspx

At the OH 64 interchange in Bowling Green (right next to BGSU's campus) ODOT is replacing the signalized ramp intersections with roundabouts and rehabilitating the bridge over I-75

There are quite a few roundabouts under construction in the Toledo area; one just opened on Manhattan Ave; another on Berdan; and one at the south end of the Waterville bridge. This BG project will be good for traffic.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on November 14, 2018, 09:14:44 PM
I saw on Friday that they are currently installing concrete footers for cable barriers from Wapakoneta down to around Piqua. Based on that, it would appear that 6 laning this section is nowhere near being considered, as these are close enough to the shoulder that they would be in the way of any widening and would have to be removed.

Not really surprising given how the Lima upgrade was built, but still kinda disappointing.

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Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on January 12, 2019, 12:14:26 PM
Here's a 2018 year in review video of the Findlay project (no sound)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22OiKhEG0Ag
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on June 08, 2019, 08:15:14 AM
They have also made a video showing every possible move though the future final configuration of the I-75/US 68/OH 15/Lima Avenue interchange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-c9VZVCDgI&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: jecht on June 21, 2019, 12:09:44 AM
Quote from: Buck87 on December 12, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
A project to widen the 32 mile section from OH 199 in Perrysburg to Hancock CR 99 just north of Findlay has already begun, projected to be done in 2016: http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/06/18/Construction-begins-to-widen-I-75-from-Perrysburg-to-Findlay-copy.html

Another 5 mile section is proposed for the remaining stretch through Findlay itself, which includes redoing the OH 15/US 68 interchange with I-75. The interchange currently has Toeldo to Columbus traffic using a loop ramp to get from 75 to 15. Two of the three options for the new interchange would replace that with a flyover, the other would keep a loop there but increase the deceleration lane. All 3 options also involve new ramps to greatly improve access to/from nearby Lima Ave. http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D01/PlanningPrograms/Projects/hancock75/Pages/default.aspx

And on the topic of widening I-75 in Ohio, here's an article about why the big rebuilding project currently going on in Lima does NOT include a 3rd lane being added: http://www.limaohio.com/news/opinion_columns/922637/Jim-Krumel:-I-75-project-shy-of-complete-package

Thank you all for mentioning this! Question: Does anyone know why there are the massive mileage marker signs for various cities just outside Toledo headed SB? It is between MM 188 and 195, right before the 475 split.

I.E.
Lexington KY 400 miles (not sure if exact mileage)
Atlanta 800 miles
Miami 1300 miles

CIN and Dayton I get (respectively 180 miles and 150 miles each). But not those larger control cities! There are actually 2 signs like this a mile apart.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: marleythedog on June 22, 2019, 01:31:04 PM
Quote from: jecht on June 21, 2019, 12:09:44 AM
Question: Does anyone know why there are the massive mileage marker signs for various cities just outside Toledo headed SB? It is between MM 188 and 195, right before the 475 split.

I.E.
Lexington KY 400 miles (not sure if exact mileage)
Atlanta 800 miles
Miami 1300 miles

I've always assumed they're just there for novelty value, since there are a lot of travelers taking 75 all the way to Florida. Though they didn't keep for the Canadians the US/metric distance signs that used to be along there...

Edit: ODOT D2 engineer explains why: https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/06/05/New-signs-on-I-75-help-steer-drivers-to-faraway-places.html
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: jecht on June 22, 2019, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: marleythedog on June 22, 2019, 01:31:04 PM
Quote from: jecht on June 21, 2019, 12:09:44 AM
Question: Does anyone know why there are the massive mileage marker signs for various cities just outside Toledo headed SB? It is between MM 188 and 195, right before the 475 split.

I.E.
Lexington KY 400 miles (not sure if exact mileage)
Atlanta 800 miles
Miami 1300 miles

I've always assumed they're just there for novelty value, since there are a lot of travelers taking 75 all the way to Florida. Though they didn't keep for the Canadians the US/metric distance signs that used to be along there...

Edit: ODOT D2 engineer explains why: https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/06/05/New-signs-on-I-75-help-steer-drivers-to-faraway-places.html

Thank you so much!

What's neat is that I remember the following, and I'm only 35:
1) In 1992 I saw a CIN 181 miles sign on I-71 SB by Ashland.
2) There used to be a CLE 126 miles sign on I-71 NB by Polaris.
3) There used to be a CHI 320 miles sign just outside of North Ridgeville (MM 146 or so?) on I-80 WB before merger with I-90 (MM 142). And it even had the km equivalent!
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: marleythedog on June 22, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Growing up along I-75, I remember the sign(s?) south of Toledo. There was

Bowling Green
10 MILES
16 KILOMETERS

and maybe another one for Lima or Dayton. Can't remember for sure.

75 SB near Middletown had a two-destination sign. Can't remember the cities for sure but it was something like:
Cincinnati      XX MI    YY KM
Lexington      XX MI    YY KM

There was another sign along there that said "1 MILE = 1.61 KILOMETERS" That's how I learned the conversion  :D
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: thenetwork on June 23, 2019, 09:55:04 PM
Quote from: marleythedog on June 22, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Growing up along I-75, I remember the sign(s?) south of Toledo. There was

Bowling Green
10 MILES
16 KILOMETERS

and maybe another one for Lima or Dayton. Can't remember for sure.

75 SB near Middletown had a two-destination sign. Can't remember the cities for sure but it was something like:
Cincinnati      XX MI    YY KM
Lexington      XX MI    YY KM

There was another sign along there that said "1 MILE = 1.61 KILOMETERS" That's how I learned the conversion  :D

There was once a lot of dual MI/km distance signs along I-75 and I-40 in Tennessee in the late-70's/early 80's -- likely due to both the failed push-to-metric crusade and the then-upcoming 1982 Worlds Fair in Knoxville.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: frankenroad on June 24, 2019, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: marleythedog on June 22, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Growing up along I-75, I remember the sign(s?) south of Toledo. There was

Bowling Green
10 MILES
16 KILOMETERS

and maybe another one for Lima or Dayton. Can't remember for sure.

75 SB near Middletown had a two-destination sign. Can't remember the cities for sure but it was something like:
Cincinnati      XX MI    YY KM
Lexington      XX MI    YY KM

There was another sign along there that said "1 MILE = 1.61 KILOMETERS" That's how I learned the conversion  :D

There was a big push in the 1970s to get people to convert to metric.   That's when a lot of these signs were installed.   Most, if not all, have disappeared.

It always cracked me up because, in a couple places, there were signs that said "METRIC SIGNS NEXT XX MILES".
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 24, 2019, 09:43:47 PM
Between C-bus & Cincy on I-71...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roadfan.com%2Fdistance.jpg&hash=1011b7c89469b318d645c8fff114daba23ed7a7f)
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: westerninterloper on June 25, 2019, 06:23:49 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on June 24, 2019, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: marleythedog on June 22, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Growing up along I-75, I remember the sign(s?) south of Toledo. There was

Bowling Green
10 MILES
16 KILOMETERS

and maybe another one for Lima or Dayton. Can't remember for sure.

75 SB near Middletown had a two-destination sign. Can't remember the cities for sure but it was something like:
Cincinnati      XX MI    YY KM
Lexington      XX MI    YY KM

There was another sign along there that said "1 MILE = 1.61 KILOMETERS" That's how I learned the conversion  :D

There was a big push in the 1970s to get people to convert to metric.   That's when a lot of these signs were installed.   Most, if not all, have disappeared.

It always cracked me up because, in a couple places, there were signs that said "METRIC SIGNS NEXT XX MILES".

That sign for Bowling Green was just removed a few years ago when the highway was widened to six lanes. As an earlier poster mentioned, the Toledo Blade article explains the reasoning behind the signs for Florida...it seems that stretch between Perrysburg and Findlay concentrates the southbound Michigan and Canadian travelers before they begin branching off to Columbus, Louisville, etc.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on November 26, 2019, 06:14:10 PM
Just saw on the Toledo news that the new double roundabouts on Lima Ave in Findlay are now open
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on September 11, 2020, 11:49:58 PM
There's a future project to improve the CR 99 interchange on I-75, likely to bid in 2023. There are 4 alternatives being considered, 2 of which are DDI's, and the public commenting period will close on Sunday 9/13. 

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odot/projects/projects/102375



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Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 14, 2020, 01:25:45 AM
Quote from: Buck87 on September 11, 2020, 11:49:58 PM
There's a future project to improve the CR 99 interchange on I-75, likely to bid in 2023. There are 4 alternatives being considered, 2 of which are DDI's, and the public commenting period will close on Sunday 9/13. 

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odot/projects/projects/102375



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Is that the north side of Findlay and Truck By-pass Oh 12?
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on September 14, 2020, 08:55:15 AM
Yes, it's on the north side of Findlay and on the map looks like a good bypass over to OH 12.

It's also the dividing line between the project that widened I-75 from Perrysburg to the north side of Findlay and the current widening project through Findlay itself.
Title: Re: I-75 widening Toledo to Findlay / OH 15 Interchange
Post by: Buck87 on November 28, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
According to this article from the Findlay Courier, the widening of I-75 through Findlay and the reconstruction of the I-75/OH 15/US 68 interchange is now done, except for a few minor though up type things that won't affect traffic:

https://thecourier.com/news/290399/114m-and-3-years-later-i-75-is-complete/