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Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)

Started by Interstate 69 Fan, November 15, 2016, 07:17:07 PM

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tolbs17

Quote from: sprjus4 on February 20, 2022, 08:11:56 PM
^ I-587 is going to be signed between I-95 and Greenville in 2022.
funny how they say signs will go up in early 2022 and yet nothing has been done as of right now. There is still no document outlining the signing plans and etc.


wdcrft63

Quote from: tolbs17 on February 20, 2022, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on February 20, 2022, 08:11:56 PM
^ I-587 is going to be signed between I-95 and Greenville in 2022.
funny how they say signs will go up in early 2022 and yet nothing has been done as of right now. There is still no document outlining the signing plans and etc.
Somebody's working on those plans, because NCDOT has promised several times to have the road signed this year.

CanesFan27

Quote from: tolbs17 on February 20, 2022, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on February 20, 2022, 08:11:56 PM
^ I-587 is going to be signed between I-95 and Greenville in 2022.
funny how they say signs will go up in early 2022 and yet nothing has been done as of right now. There is still no document outlining the signing plans and etc.

While I appreciate your enthusiasm for our state highway system, take a deep breath, have some patience, and not worry about it.  It'll come.

sprjus4

Quote from: tolbs17 on February 20, 2022, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on February 20, 2022, 08:11:56 PM
^ I-587 is going to be signed between I-95 and Greenville in 2022.
funny how they say signs will go up in early 2022 and yet nothing has been done as of right now. There is still no document outlining the signing plans and etc.
It's only February... there's still 10 months of the year left.

It will come eventually.

The Ghostbuster

I wonder how long it will be before Interstate 87 and Interstate 587 connect with one another? I'd estimate at the earliest about 15 to 20 years from now.

tolbs17

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 21, 2022, 03:57:17 PM
I wonder how long it will be before Interstate 87 and Interstate 587 connect with one another? I'd estimate at the earliest about 15 to 20 years from now.
Most likely. Plans to upgrade US-264 to interstate standards between Wilson and Zebulon are unfunded, same with widening US-64 (future I-87) to 6 lanes (should just widen it to 8 straight off the bat!) between Wendell and Zebulon.

english si

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 21, 2022, 03:57:17 PMI wonder how long it will be before Interstate 87 and Interstate 587 connect with one another? I'd estimate at the earliest about 15 to 20 years from now.
I can't see it being a high priority. 587's purpose (blue-and-red signs to Greenville) is done without it, and the expense and faff of upgrading the existing highway isn't worth it.

If they change the signs to sign Future-587 like they sign Future-26 in Asheville, then you know it's going to be a long long time before they upgrade it to Interstate standards!

LM117

I'm pretty sure I mentioned this before a while back, but according to former NCDOT Secretary Nick Tennyson, the biggest issue with the upgrades between Sims and Zebulon is that the overhead bridge clearances would need to be increased. Other than that, it should be a simple matter of widening the shoulders, as was the case in Greene and Pitt counties.

That said, I agree that the remaining upgrades won't be happening anytime soon. Greenville's top priority was having an interstate connection to I-95, which they now have. Having I-shields from Greenville to Raleigh was never mentioned when Greenville began it's interstate push 10 years ago.
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

Mapmikey


bob7374

Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...
Good news. A quick check of traffic cameras along the NC 11 Bypass shows that the overhead signs have not been updated as of yet. I'll continue to check and post an update when warranted.

WashuOtaku

Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...

Is that the actual sign? Why is it marked east-west and why is it white?

Great Lakes Roads

Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...

Is that the actual sign? Why is it marked east-west and why is it white?

Probably because they removed the US 264 and slapped the interstate shield on there

sprjus4


WashuOtaku

Quote from: sprjus4 on June 22, 2022, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PMWhy is it marked east-west
Because it is an east-west interstate?
This might sound weird, but the signage was to be north-south.

MATraveler128

Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 22, 2022, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PMWhy is it marked east-west
Because it is an east-west interstate?
This might sound weird, but the signage was to be north-south.

It's because of NCDOT's practice of signing its 3dis in the same cardinal directions as their parents. For example, I-540 is signed east west because that's how I-40 is signed. The only example before this was I-485 around Charlotte. But I'm glad NCDOT decided to go along with the east west numbering. I-87 already runs more east west.
Decommission 128 south of Peabody!

Lowest untraveled number: 56

LM117

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on June 22, 2022, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 22, 2022, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PMWhy is it marked east-west
Because it is an east-west interstate?
This might sound weird, but the signage was to be north-south.

It's because of NCDOT's practice of signing its 3dis in the same cardinal directions as their parents. For example, I-540 is signed east west because that's how I-40 is signed. The only example before this was I-485 around Charlotte. But I'm glad NCDOT decided to go along with the east west numbering. I-87 already runs more east west.

That's because NCDOT mistakenly thought that there was a federal rule that a 3di MUST be signed in the same directions as the parent 2di, regardless of how the actual direction of the road runs. Problem with that is there is no such rule, and there are plenty of examples in other states where the 3di is signed with different directions than the parent.

Apparently, NCDOT finally realized that and changed the sign plans. Thank goodness common sense finally prevailed!
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

sprjus4

Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 22, 2022, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PMWhy is it marked east-west
Because it is an east-west interstate?
This might sound weird, but the signage was to be north-south.
You are correct, it was originally to be north-south, but some months ago it was confirmed it was switched to properly be east-west.

Roadsguy

Quote from: LM117 on June 22, 2022, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on June 22, 2022, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 22, 2022, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PMWhy is it marked east-west
Because it is an east-west interstate?
This might sound weird, but the signage was to be north-south.

It's because of NCDOT's practice of signing its 3dis in the same cardinal directions as their parents. For example, I-540 is signed east west because that's how I-40 is signed. The only example before this was I-485 around Charlotte. But I'm glad NCDOT decided to go along with the east west numbering. I-87 already runs more east west.

That's because NCDOT mistakenly thought that there was a federal rule that a 3di MUST be signed in the same directions as the parent 2di, regardless of how the actual direction of the road runs. Problem with that is there is no such rule, and there are plenty of examples in other states where the 3di is signed with different directions than the parent.

Apparently, NCDOT finally realized that and changed the sign plans. Thank goodness common sense finally prevailed!

It doesn't help that most of NCDOT's 3di's happen to be aligned geographically with the direction their parent route is signed. I-587 may have gotten them to notice because of how obvious an example it is.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

74/171FAN

Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...

Is that the actual sign? Why is it marked east-west and why is it white?

Not the best photo sadly, but I think it is good enough for you to get the point.  Basically, this is a similar shield for I-83 with a white "END".  I believe it was installed as a part of the I-83 construction so I believe it will be around for a while.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217275077509474&set=a.10216218268569911
I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

kendallhart808

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on June 22, 2022, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...

Is that the actual sign? Why is it marked east-west and why is it white?

Probably because they removed the US 264 and slapped the interstate shield on there

Does anyone know if they ever got the approval to move US 264 back on its old route?

LM117

Quote from: kendallhart808 on June 22, 2022, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on June 22, 2022, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...

Is that the actual sign? Why is it marked east-west and why is it white?

Probably because they removed the US 264 and slapped the interstate shield on there

Does anyone know if they ever got the approval to move US 264 back on its old route?

Yeah, AASHTO approved it last fall.
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

Interstate 69 Fan

Quote from: bob7374 on June 22, 2022, 12:49:13 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2022, 12:40:55 PM
I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...
Good news. A quick check of traffic cameras along the NC 11 Bypass shows that the overhead signs have not been updated as of yet. I'll continue to check and post an update when warranted.

That didn't take long... https://youtu.be/Z-fRhDI0_GE
Apparently I’m a fan of I-69.  Who knew.

rickmastfan67

Quote from: sprjus4 on June 22, 2022, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 22, 2022, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: WashuOtaku on June 22, 2022, 01:13:40 PMWhy is it marked east-west
Because it is an east-west interstate?
This might sound weird, but the signage was to be north-south.
You are correct, it was originally to be north-south, but some months ago it was confirmed it was switched to properly be east-west.

And here's 100% proof that it is East/West with a completely new sign (a MM) from the following video at the 33s mark (it's very fast, only on screen for a split second).
https://www.witn.com/video/2022/06/23/ncdot-officials-unveil-interstate/


The Ghostbuster

No Interstate 587 markers have been posted along the US 264 freeway on Google Maps yet, although I'm sure it is only a matter of time before that changes. Heck, the few Interstate 42 markers along US 70 near Exit 370 are still posted on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3038616,-77.8141547,943m/data=!3m1!1e3, even though 42 has not been signposted yet in the field.

bob7374




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