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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #150 on: January 15, 2022, 01:56:57 PM »

This project should be beginning construction soon right?
TDOT has dragged their feet on this project for 10 years, so I wouldnít hold my breath.

The I-55 curve construction  was scheduled to start in mid-2020, then it was halted with no startup date.  IE: Put on a back burner with no fire under it.....
Precisely. I believe this is the third or fourth time they have delayed this project.

Tennessee is a very frugal state to begin with. Memphis is not favored by Nashville (the state government).  So getting funding for any project in Tennessee is as difficult as in a truly poor state like Mississippi and doubly hard for projects in and around Memphis.

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority.

This statement is NOT true, Nashville is larger. even the metro area population is larger.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #151 on: January 15, 2022, 02:05:44 PM »

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority.

This statement is NOT true, Nashville is larger. even the metro area population is larger.

Nashville proper passed Memphis proper with the 2020 census. (2020 Memphis = 633,104, 2020 Nashville = 689,447).  Memphis had been larger than Nashville for many years prior.

Shelby County remains larger than Davidson County. (929,744 vs 715,884).

Nashville's metro area population is considerably larger than Memphis' (2.0m vs 1.3m)
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #152 on: January 17, 2022, 08:08:51 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasn’t surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
I’d be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least that’s the impression I get.


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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #153 on: January 17, 2022, 08:59:56 PM »

There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......
African or Asian?
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #154 on: January 17, 2022, 09:00:30 PM »

What, this elephant?


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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #155 on: January 17, 2022, 10:14:58 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #156 on: January 17, 2022, 10:17:20 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?

and this is relevant how? now back to road talk.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #157 on: January 17, 2022, 10:19:28 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?

and this is relevant how? now back to road talk.

About as relevant as elephants and anything Indiana in this thread.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #158 on: January 17, 2022, 10:37:03 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population

21   Nashville[k]   Tennessee   689,447   601,222   +14.67%   
28   Memphis   Tennessee   633,104   646,889   −2.13%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

36   Nashville-DavidsonĖMurfreesboroĖFranklin, TN MSA   1,989,519   1,646,200   +20.86%   
43   Memphis, TN-MS-AR MSA   1,337,779   1,316,100   +1.65%
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #159 on: January 19, 2022, 06:03:24 PM »

Will the new Memphis/Arkansas Bridge be a cable-stayed one? I know they don't build truss bridges anymore.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #160 on: January 19, 2022, 06:06:25 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?
I'm black just so you know.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #161 on: January 19, 2022, 06:18:11 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?
I'm black just so you know.

That's cool!
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #162 on: January 19, 2022, 06:22:58 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?
I'm black just so you know.

That's cool!
Thank you!
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #163 on: January 19, 2022, 07:24:00 PM »

Will the new Memphis/Arkansas Bridge be a cable-stayed one? I know they don't build truss bridges anymore.

I think unicorn hair and troll farts are just as likely to form the basis for a new bridge design as anything else, for the next few decades.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #164 on: January 19, 2022, 08:07:53 PM »

Will the new Memphis/Arkansas Bridge be a cable-stayed one? I know they don't build truss bridges anymore.

I think unicorn hair and troll farts are just as likely to form the basis for a new bridge design as anything else, for the next few decades.

I think that a new bridge design will result from the debris of the current bridge, however that happens.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #165 on: January 20, 2022, 03:07:19 AM »

Will the new Memphis/Arkansas Bridge be a cable-stayed one? I know they don't build truss bridges anymore.

I think unicorn hair and troll farts are just as likely to form the basis for a new bridge design as anything else, for the next few decades.

I think that a new bridge design will result from the debris of the current bridge, however that happens.

I donít think theyíve stopped making steel truss bridges altogether, since I can think of ones in Cincinnati, WV, and SC off the top of my head that have been built in the last ~ 30 years.  But theyíre simply not as pretty as cable-stayed, cable suspension, tied arch, or a number of other bridges.  Many new bridges are built the way that they are because theyíre going for that signature look.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #166 on: January 20, 2022, 10:00:21 AM »

Will the new Memphis/Arkansas Bridge be a cable-stayed one? I know they don't build truss bridges anymore.

I think unicorn hair and troll farts are just as likely to form the basis for a new bridge design as anything else, for the next few decades.

I think that a new bridge design will result from the debris of the current bridge, however that happens.

I donít think theyíve stopped making steel truss bridges altogether, since I can think of ones in Cincinnati, WV, and SC off the top of my head that have been built in the last ~ 30 years.  But theyíre simply not as pretty as cable-stayed, cable suspension, tied arch, or a number of other bridges.  Many new bridges are built the way that they are because theyíre going for that signature look.

If they ever were to replace the bridges in Memphis, then it's likely that they would replace with one like was done for US-82/278 at Greenville, MS.

https://goo.gl/maps/ugLodRA38HihGQzi7
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #167 on: January 21, 2022, 08:40:18 AM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?
I'm black just so you know.

me too. also i didn't see the previous posts, which explained my confusion. seemed so out of context when i saw it.  :-D
« Last Edit: January 21, 2022, 08:42:41 AM by silverback1065 »
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #168 on: February 15, 2022, 04:04:25 PM »

I wonder why Memphis didnít get a dedicated highway bridge across the Mississippi River until the late 1940s.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #169 on: February 15, 2022, 06:34:19 PM »

Quote from: roadman65

Yet Memphis is the states most populous city, it should get priority. 

If Metro Nashville hasnít surpassed Memphis in population yet, it will soon.
Would a new wider Memphis Arkansas Bridge somehow incorporate the Frisco Bridge?
Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis. Nashville seems much larger and way more vibrant than Memphis. Like it or not Tennessee seems to not care much about Memphis. At least thatís the impression I get.


Guys,


There is an elephant in this room and I am not going to be the one who points it out......

That 95% of the posters to AAroads are white?
I'm black just so you know.

me too. also i didn't see the previous posts, which explained my confusion. seemed so out of context when i saw it.  :-D

For those who missed it: Iíd be very surprised if Memphis has a larger metro population than Memphis.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #170 on: February 15, 2022, 08:49:02 PM »

i have heard that Memphis has been de-annexing
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #171 on: February 15, 2022, 09:20:10 PM »

i have heard that Memphis has been de-annexing

A few years ago, Tennessee almost passed legislation that would have allowed folks in recently annexed areas to sue to essentially secede from the annexing city, brought about by residents who were dissatisfied with city taxes and inconsistent expansion of city services to the new areas.

As part of the debate on the bill, Memphis agreed to study de-annexing areas where the cost of expanding full city services didn't make sense in light of the tax revenues collected.

Here's a map of the deannexed areas.


I can't quickly find the complete estimates of impacted population, but the population decline of Memphis proper since 2010 is probably a combination of migration and deannexation.  (I think the impacted areas were between 1% and 2% of the city, population-wise.)
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #172 on: February 16, 2022, 01:21:43 PM »

I wonder why Memphis didnít get a dedicated highway bridge across the Mississippi River until the late 1940s.

$$$. It was not uncommon for roads to be attached in some way to an existing RR bridge (EX: MacArthur Bridge in STL and Huey Long bridge in NOLA). There wasn't a lot of money for roads in the 30's due to the Depression then WW2 came along.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #173 on: February 16, 2022, 02:43:08 PM »

When did they announce a new bridge, Googled the subject and it shows nothing.
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Re: Interstate 55/ Crump Boulevard Interchange
« Reply #174 on: February 16, 2022, 03:37:50 PM »

When did they announce a new bridge, Googled the subject and it shows nothing.

I think they are speculating. Right now the discussion is only about the reconstruction of I-55 and Crump.
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