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Started by Plutonic Panda, January 09, 2018, 12:13:46 AM

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sparker

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 11, 2019, 02:55:09 AM
Given the numbers given to the Tulsa-area turnpikes, I'd imagine that the Kilpatrick would get either 303 or 374 (or 377, because why not make things worse), and the Kickapoo would get 362. If they had been wanting to follow Interstate rules, we'd have a 344 and a 340 already.

Edit: We, in fact, have a 344 already. I just found that the Transportation Commission commissioned SH-344 for the Gilcrease Expressway in June 2018. (This was previously shown as a possible future SH-12 on ODOT planning documents, I believe.)

On the surface it appears ODOT simply looks for a relatively prominent 2dus or 2dOK that is either intersecting or adjacent and adds 300 to it.  In Tulsa they've used 364 as an adjunct to US 64 and 351 related to OK 51.  But with the information here, they've added Interstate propinquity to the mix; perhaps they're simply "filling out" the Tulsa 3di roster with "344", which satisfies their 300-series standard as well as being a tip of the hat to I-244 and unsigned I-444.  That would leave any future consideration for the Kilpatrick up in the air; it could receive one of the designations cited above, or even 335 (or, if one is stretching things, 366!).  Same rationale for the Kickapoo -- although 362 would seem a rational number in keeping with current practice, it still could be 340 -- or, fancifully, 309!  Someone should get a pool going!


Scott5114

#51
My guess is that 344 was chosen due to lack of other options–the only highways it intersects other than I-44 and I-244 are US-64 and SH-51! (And US-412, but what would the number derived from that be? 312, when the "parent" US route doesn't even touch US-12 to begin with? 712?)

The almost-rational-but-not-quite nature of the 3xx series routes make coming up with additions to the family a very satisfying endeavor. Hey, let's make the Bailey Spur SH-376 (why not an extension of 4? Because that would make sense)!
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US 89

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 11, 2019, 02:55:09 AM
Edit: We, in fact, have a 344 already. I just found that the Transportation Commission commissioned SH-344 for the Gilcrease Expressway in June 2018. (This was previously shown as a possible future SH-12 on ODOT planning documents, I believe.)

Is that just for the tolled portion currently under construction, or does the designation extend all the way to 75? If that's the case, may as well truncate SH-11 and extend SH-344 out to 244.

Scott5114

Quote from: US 89 on October 11, 2019, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 11, 2019, 02:55:09 AM
Edit: We, in fact, have a 344 already. I just found that the Transportation Commission commissioned SH-344 for the Gilcrease Expressway in June 2018. (This was previously shown as a possible future SH-12 on ODOT planning documents, I believe.)

Is that just for the tolled portion currently under construction, or does the designation extend all the way to 75? If that's the case, may as well truncate SH-11 and extend SH-344 out to 244.

QuoteAdd the State Highway 344 designation to the new portion of the Gilcrease Expressway that is being constructed West of Tulsa. The alignment of State Highway 344 will be between Interstate 244/State Highway  51,  west  of  Tulsa,  and  extend  approximately  5.25  miles  to  the  existing  interchange  of  Interstate 244 and Interstate 44 southeast of the City of Tulsa.  The  addition  of  State  Highway  344  will  become  effective  upon  the  completion  of  construction  and  approval by the State Transportation Commission.
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Gnutella

Have any of you ever kicked a poo?

sparker

Quote from: Gnutella on October 15, 2019, 05:27:08 AM
Have any of you ever kicked a poo?

No, but have inadvertently stepped on numerous ones.  Share a house with a husky and that's bound to happen!

triplemultiplex

Works a lot better with dried out cow pies and buffalo chips.
"That's just like... your opinion, man."

Brian556


X99

why are there only like 5 people on this forum from south dakota

sparker

Quote from: X99 on December 04, 2019, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on December 03, 2019, 09:28:09 PM

The new most stolen highway sign in Oklahoma!

As well as the one most spouses would banish to the garage or an outbuilding!

Brian556

Quote from: sparker on December 09, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: X99 on December 04, 2019, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on December 03, 2019, 09:28:09 PM

The new most stolen highway sign in Oklahoma!

As well as the one most spouses would banish to the garage or an outbuilding!

Most women are selfish and wont let their guys hang any signs in the house, regardless of what they say. One on the many reasons that I choose to stay single

Scott5114

Quote from: Brian556 on December 09, 2019, 08:26:10 PM
Quote from: sparker on December 09, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: X99 on December 04, 2019, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on December 03, 2019, 09:28:09 PM

The new most stolen highway sign in Oklahoma!

As well as the one most spouses would banish to the garage or an outbuilding!

Most women are selfish and wont let their guys hang any signs in the house, regardless of what they say. One on the many reasons that I choose to stay single

That statement is more full of shit than the sign in the post you quoted.
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kphoger

Yeah...  "I'm single because I like to hang signs on the wall" isn't often heard.  Besides which, I'm pretty sure most women would agree to making that concession if considering marriage.

She:  I expect you to help with household chores, and I expect you to throw away your porn.

He:  I expect you to let me hang signs on the wall.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

SoonerCowboy

Quote from: kphoger on December 10, 2019, 10:48:58 AM
Yeah...  "I'm single because I like to hang signs on the wall" isn't often heard.  Besides which, I'm pretty sure most women would agree to making that concession if considering marriage.

She:  I expect you to help with household chores, and I expect you to throw away your porn.

He:  I expect you to let me hang signs on the wall.

Great stuff. My wife told me years ago, that I could use like 1 wall in the garage for my signs, so I started out with multiple license plates, and my Kansas I-135 sign. Since then I have added my Oklahoma I-40, 35 and 44, Arizona I-19, California I-5, and Texas I-635 and I-45. Every wall in the garage has something  :bigass:

Scott5114

My wife lets me hang up signs wherever I want, so long as she can hang up her movie and TV show posters wherever she wants, because we're both adults about it.

Hell, my wife has been known to buy me signs. She got me a '28 spec Oklahoma US-62, a '48 spec Michigan US-10, and a button copy letter S.

Find a wife like that.
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bugo

Quote from: Brian556 on December 09, 2019, 08:26:10 PM
Most women are selfish and wont let their guys hang any signs in the house, regardless of what they say. One on the many reasons that I choose to stay single

It depends on who wears the pants.

Brian556

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 12, 2019, 01:17:44 AM
My wife lets me hang up signs wherever I want, so long as she can hang up her movie and TV show posters wherever she wants, because we're both adults about it.

Hell, my wife has been known to buy me signs. She got me a '28 spec Oklahoma US-62, a '48 spec Michigan US-10, and a button copy letter S.

Find a wife like that.

Holy shit dude youre lucky!

ozarkman417

Quote from: X99 on December 04, 2019, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on December 03, 2019, 09:28:09 PM

The new most stolen highway sign in Oklahoma!
I need to get me one of these signs.. because one of my school's rivals is Kickapoo High School (also known as kick-a-shit).

rte66man

Bringing this topic back to the actual road, I was traveling up I44 last Wednesday and saw the northern end of the Kickapoo was nearly ready to open.

Eastbound (6:30 a.m. so a little dark):









Westbound (about noon the same day):









I was planning on running the barricades but there was an OHP cruiser sitting just out of shot at the top of the ramp. I'm assuming he was there to catch people doing what I was planning on doing as he was too far up the ramp to be an effective speed trap.
When you come to a fork in the road... TAKE IT.

                                                               -Yogi Berra

bugo

I spot an OTA route marker. I guess the highway isn't getting a number, at least for now.

Western Electric Model 500


Plutonic Panda

I vote I-335 as it will eventually connect to I-35 on both ends.

US 89

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 03, 2020, 04:49:38 PM
I vote I-335 as it will eventually connect to I-35 on both ends.

Nah, it won't be an interstate. I vote OK 340, based on the 3xx series that already exists for some of the Tulsa-area toll roads

okc1

Opening Oct 13 from I-44 to US 62.
Steve Reynolds
Midwest City OK
Native of Southern Erie Co, NY

yakra

Quote from: okc1 on October 03, 2020, 07:32:00 PM
Opening Oct 13 from I-44 to US 62.
I went looking for a cite, and... are you sure you don't mean SH 62? :bigass:
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

SoonerCowboy

Quote from: yakra on October 03, 2020, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: okc1 on October 03, 2020, 07:32:00 PM
Opening Oct 13 from I-44 to US 62.
I went looking for a cite, and... are you sure you don't mean SH 62? :bigass:

No its US 62/N.E 23rd St. I was heading home from Tulsa last weekend, and saw the signage that was posted above, thought it may have been open, well....nope, it was the Luther/Jones exit once again LOL.



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