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Kickapoo Turnpike

Started by Plutonic Panda, January 09, 2018, 12:13:46 AM

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Quote from: SoonerCowboy on October 03, 2020, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: yakra on October 03, 2020, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: okc1 on October 03, 2020, 07:32:00 PM
Opening Oct 13 from I-44 to US 62.
I went looking for a cite, and... are you sure you don't mean SH 62? :bigass:

No its US 62/N.E 23rd St. I was heading home from Tulsa last weekend, and saw the signage that was posted above, thought it may have been open, well....nope, it was the Luther/Jones exit once again LOL.

Click the link. That's where SH 62 came from.
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ozarkman417

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QuoteSH62

No such highway exists (well, it used to), so OTA better not hire the person who wrote this to make any signs. If I've learned anything from the US/State mixup thread, the Department/agency can't always be trusted..

Plutonic Panda

Portion from I-44 to SH-62(NE 23rd) opens October 13th.

https://fb.me/e/1CbMEukoW

ozarkman417

Less than 24 hours until the opening ceremony. It will occur at:

11:00 CT

12:00 ET

10:00 MT

9:00 PT

ozarkman417

"Here's what you need to know before part of the Kickapoo Turnpike opens next week"- article from The Oklahoman

BridgesToIdealism

Interestingly, Google Maps has already added the entire length of the Kickapoo Turnpike, when usually they are behind the eight ball significantly. Likewise they were also ahead of the game with the SH 249 Extension (Aggie Tollway) in Montgomery County, Texas.
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rte66man

Drove up the Turner today and noticed an interesting change. Where the BGS's originally said "TO I-40", they now say "TO US 62". Also, a BYS  has been added in each direction to warn motorists the new turnpike will only be open south to NE 23rd (US62). Crews were doing some cleanup work on ramps in both directions in preparation for tomorrow.
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The Ghostbuster

Google Maps has been updated to show the Kickapoo Turnpike, although it shows the Turnpike ending at Interstate 40, while Wikipedia stated that it would end at the intersection of S. 89th St. and McDonald Rd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickapoo_Turnpike. The page needs to be updated to reflect the opening of the roadway.

skluth

Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on October 12, 2020, 02:28:22 PM
Interestingly, Google Maps has already added the entire length of the Kickapoo Turnpike, when usually they are behind the eight ball significantly. Likewise they were also ahead of the game with the SH 249 Extension (Aggie Tollway) in Montgomery County, Texas.

The interchange design for I-40 shown on Google Maps implies that the Kickapoo will be extended further south. Is there anything out about that?

SoonerCowboy

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on October 12, 2020, 07:20:04 PM
Google Maps has been updated to show the Kickapoo Turnpike, although it shows the Turnpike ending at Interstate 40, while Wikipedia stated that it would end at the intersection of S. 89th St. and McDonald Rd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickapoo_Turnpike. The page needs to be updated to reflect the opening of the roadway.

Wikipedia, has it correct. Most traffic , will most likely exit to I-40, but the actual southern end, will be SE 89th St. If you do not make a turn onto 89th, then you would have to continue south on McDonald Rd.

Scott5114

Which is absolutely wild, since McDonald Road appears to be a privately-maintained gravel street lined with residences. What OTA was thinking lining up the ROW to this, I don't know.
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rte66man

Noticed more BGS changes. ODOT added a small yellow sticker with "TOLL" just below the words "South" and "North on all directional signs.  I wold have assumed the large yellow "TURNPIKE" would have been sufficient.
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sprjus4

Quote from: rte66man on October 03, 2020, 03:33:22 PM
If the speed limit is to be 80 mph, wouldn't that make the minimum speed 60 mph, not 50 mph?

This was done on other segments, as seen here.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 06, 2020, 08:16:46 PM
The H.E. Bailey Turnpike Spur is now posted at 80.


The Ghostbuster

So the Kickapoo Turnpike is designation-less (as in no state highway designation)? Or are they going to add a state highway designation later on, like the Cimarron Turnpike (now US 412), the H.E. Bailey Turnpike (now Interstate 44), the Creek Turnpike (now OK 364), and the Muskogee Turnpike (now OK 351)?

rte66man

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on October 13, 2020, 01:15:32 PM
So the Kickapoo Turnpike is designation-less (as in no state highway designation)? Or are they going to add a state highway designation later on, like the Cimarron Turnpike (now US 412), the H.E. Bailey Turnpike (now Interstate 44), the Creek Turnpike (now OK 364), and the Muskogee Turnpike (now OK 351)?

I doubt it will get a number. That practice seems to be restricted to the eastern part of the state. Excluding the interstates and US412, all the signed state turnpikes are in the eastern half.  AFAIK, the Kilpatrick, Kickapoo, and Chickasaw don't have a signed number.
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rte66man

Quote from: sprjus4 on October 13, 2020, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: rte66man on October 03, 2020, 03:33:22 PM
If the speed limit is to be 80 mph, wouldn't that make the minimum speed 60 mph, not 50 mph?

The Turner is marked with a 60 mph minimum and it is still 75.  This wouldn't be the only sign mistake. They still have many corrections to make.
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Plutonic Panda

I thought Turner was 85.

kphoger

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 13, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
I thought Turner was 85.

AFAIK, the only 85mph highway in this country is TX-130.
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Plutonic Panda

Quote from: kphoger on October 13, 2020, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 13, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
I thought Turner was 85.

AFAIK, the only 85mph highway in this country is TX-130.
I swear the Turner was either 85 or 80 but maybe I'm mistaken.

I wonder when/if we will see a higher limit than 85PMH in the states.

kphoger

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 13, 2020, 02:23:32 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 13, 2020, 01:58:19 PM

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 13, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
I thought Turner was 85.

AFAIK, the only 85mph highway in this country is TX-130.

I swear the Turner was either 85 or 80 but maybe I'm mistaken.

80 ≠ 85

The Turner gets up to 80 mph, but only on a 13-mile segment.

map .pdf here
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sprjus4

SH-130 is currently the only highway in the country posted at 85 mph.

The Kickapoo Turnpike is supposed to be 80 mph.

Plutonic Panda

Interesting. Many times I've driven 85ish and that seemed to be about the flow of traffic in the left lane with most people at least going 75-80.

kphoger

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 13, 2020, 02:39:49 PM
Interesting. Many times I've driven 85ish and that seemed to be about the flow of traffic in the left lane with most people at least going 75-80.

Flow of traffic ≠ Speed limit
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Male pronouns, please.

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Plutonic Panda

Quote from: kphoger on October 13, 2020, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 13, 2020, 02:39:49 PM
Interesting. Many times I've driven 85ish and that seemed to be about the flow of traffic in the left lane with most people at least going 75-80.

Flow of traffic ≠ Speed limit
I never said it did. It is clear I made an error when I thought the speed limit was 85. Now my point is that they should raise it.

Scott5114

I'm not 100% sure about that. 85 works on TX-130 because it was built with a speed limit that high in mind, and the 85-mph segments are pretty sparsely traveled. The Turner doesn't have the sight lines to support a speed limit that high, and is pretty busy for most of its length.
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