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Title: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: jaehak on April 16, 2022, 03:21:23 PM
What if other roads started with a sign like I 70 does in Baltimore (mileage listed for Columbus, St. Louis, Denver, and Cove Fort). Which 4 cities would other roads choose?

For 90, I'm guessing Buffalo, Cleveland, Chicago, and Seattle westbound and Spokane, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston eastbound

95:S Boston, New York, Washington, Miami. Nb Jacksonville, Washington, New York, Houlton.

10: W New Orleans, Houston, Phoenix, Santa Monica. E Phoenix, San Antonio, Houston, Jacksonville

5 N LA, Sacramento, Seattle, Blaine S Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, San Diego

And 70 W Denver, Kansas City (should replace St Louis in the real sign imo), Indianapolis, Baltimore


Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: Hobart on April 16, 2022, 07:03:08 PM
I'm gonna make the obligatory joke about Interstate 70 in Baltimore.

"Baltimore" should be replaced with "Security Boulevard Park and Ride".

For 80, it would probably be (facing west) Cleveland, Chicago, Des Moines, Sacremento, then San Francisco. If you really felt like it, you could omit Cleveland or add Denver or Omaha.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: hobsini2 on April 16, 2022, 07:18:27 PM
I do think that every Interstate should have a sign like that every say 50 to 100 miles. I would have it be the following:
Next Exit or Town
Next Secondary Control City
Next Major Control City
Highway Ending Point or Major Control City just beyond the ending. (Los Angeles for I-40 West for example.)

But to keep in the spirit of what you were talking about, I-55 I would do:
Northbound
Jackson, Miss
Memphis
St Louis
Chicago

Southbound
St Louis
Memphis
New Orleans
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: HighwayStar on April 16, 2022, 07:29:07 PM
Quote from: Hobart on April 16, 2022, 07:03:08 PM
I'm gonna make the obligatory joke about Interstate 70 in Baltimore.

"Baltimore" should be replaced with "Security Boulevard Park and Ride".

For 80, it would probably be (facing west) Cleveland, Chicago, Des Moines, Sacremento, then San Francisco. If you really felt like it, you could omit Cleveland or add Denver or Omaha.

Well you beat me to it!
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: MATraveler128 on April 16, 2022, 07:38:21 PM
Imagine I-74 in Iowa with a Myrtle Beach control point :biggrin:

But in all seriousness, I like long distance control cities. There’s one on US 20 in Boston that shows the distance to Newport, Oregon. Obviously no one is going to follow US 20 the whole way to Oregon, but I think these signs show the overall prominence of said highway and I like it.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: ilpt4u on April 16, 2022, 07:47:21 PM
I-80 WB: Cleveland. Chicago. Salt Lake City. San Francisco
I-80 EB: Salt Lake City. Omaha. Chicago. New York City

I'd like to see, just in IL, mileage signs on US 51 in Cairo for South Beloit, and in South Beloit for Cairo. Same thing for US 45 in Antioch and Metropolis. Illinois is a lot "taller"  N-S state than many think
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: HighwayStar on April 16, 2022, 07:50:08 PM
I agree these should be obligatory on every road. Each end should have one sign that gives the other endpoint, and a couple major control cities along the route.

For controlled access roads it should be after the first exit or so (in the case of I-70 I think its farther than that but its been a while).

So here would be a few examples

I-90 (Westbound)

I-90 (Eastbound)
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: -- US 175 -- on April 17, 2022, 04:03:27 AM
Not that TxDOT will do this, but to me it would be helpful...

US 175 EB: Seagoville, Kaufman, Athens, Jacksonville
WB: Frankston, Athens, Kaufman, Dallas
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 17, 2022, 04:12:36 AM
One could be put on QC 132 EB in Dundee reading the distance to Montréal, Québec, then Sainte-Flavie twice, with one number counting the loop and the other not counting it.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: Crown Victoria on April 17, 2022, 02:05:12 PM
For I-81:

Northbound (mileage from I-40): Roanoke 225, Harrisburg 507, Syracuse 755, Thousand Islands 853

Southbound (Mileage from the Canadian border): Binghamton 172, Harrisburg 351, Roanoke 641, Dandridge TN 853 (Or, could use Knoxville 888)


Another idea in addition to the spirit of this thread, as I-81 is used as an I-95 bypass, one could list cities via other interstates at certain points along the route.

A sign on northbound I-81 just north of I-77 south could read Washington DC via I-66 295, Philadelphia via I-76 453, New York City via I-78 515, Boston via I-84 and I-90 756.

Southbound signage might be a bit more complicated, depending on the cities chosen. From a point just south of I-66, Charleston WV via I-64 290, Charlotte via I-77 347, Knoxville via I-40 409, Nashville via I-40 588 would be easy.

But, many travelers on I-81 are heading to further destinations. So how complicated do you get? Atlanta via I-77 & I-85 583? Jacksonville via I-77 & I-26 & I-95 729? Miami via I-77 & I-26 & I-95 1080? Would that be helpful, confusing, or not a concern at all?


Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: SkyPesos on April 17, 2022, 02:39:31 PM
71 is easy, as there's exactly 4 large cities on the route:
NB: Cincinnati, Columbus Cleveland
SB: Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville

For 75, the signs would have 4 cities on them:
NB: Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Salut Ste Marie
SB: Detroit, Cincinnati, Atlanta, Miami

Also side note, shouldn't this thread be in fictional?
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: skluth on April 17, 2022, 02:49:51 PM
I'd like it on shorter interstates

I-43
Green Bay - NB
Manitowoc
Sheboygan
Milwaukee
Beloit - SB

I-72
Hannibal - WB
Jacksonville
Springfield
Decatur
Champaign - EB

I-8 is more complicated
San Diego - WB
El Centro
Yuma
Gila Bend
Tucson - EB (the logical eastbound destination though it requires some distance on I-10)

I-41 is similar
Green Bay - NB
Appleton
Fond du Lac
Milwaukee
Chicago - SB (similar to I-8)
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: kkt on April 17, 2022, 03:05:57 PM
I-15, northbound from San Diego:
Barstow
Las Vegas
Salt Lake City
Sweet Grass, Mont.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 17, 2022, 04:44:00 PM
I-35 south from Duluth:
Minneapolis
Kansas City
DFW
Laredo

I-94 from Montana:
Minneapolis
Milwaukee
Chicago
Port Huron
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: ilpt4u on April 17, 2022, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 17, 2022, 04:44:00 PM
I-94 from Montana:
Minneapolis
Milwaukee
Chicago
Detroit
Port Huron
FTFY

That's how I'd do I-94, anyway
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 17, 2022, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on April 17, 2022, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 17, 2022, 04:44:00 PM
I-94 from Montana:
Minneapolis
Milwaukee
Chicago
Detroit
Port Huron
FTFY

That's how I'd do I-94, anyway

I picked Milwaukee over Detroit since Port Huron is essentially in the Detroit metro area, but it's one of those that's tough.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: ilpt4u on April 17, 2022, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 17, 2022, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on April 17, 2022, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 17, 2022, 04:44:00 PM
I-94 from Montana:
Minneapolis
Milwaukee
Chicago
Detroit
Port Huron
FTFY

That's how I'd do I-94, anyway

I picked Milwaukee over Detroit since Port Huron is essentially in the Detroit metro area, but it's one of those that's tough.
Milwaukee is almost in Chicago's Metro area, so it's a bit of a toss-up. I see Detroit because it is (still) a bigger city
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: CtrlAltDel on April 17, 2022, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: jaehak on April 16, 2022, 03:21:23 PM
And 70 W Denver, Kansas City (should replace St Louis in the real sign imo), Indianapolis, Baltimore

Just out of idle curiosity, why do you think Kansas City should replace Saint Louis? Its MSA has a 27% bigger population than Kansas City's.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: CtrlAltDel on April 17, 2022, 05:29:24 PM
Quote from: skluth on April 17, 2022, 02:49:51 PM
I'd like it on shorter interstates

I-180

Coal Hollow
Bureau Junction
Hennepin
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: Bruce on April 18, 2022, 02:27:24 AM
I'd love to see a "Detroit - 2,484 mi" sign in Aberdeen.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: Henry on April 18, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
For all the major 2di's that haven't been covered yet, here's how I'd set them up:

I-15
SB--Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Barstow, San Diego

I-20
EB--Dallas, Shreveport, Atlanta, Florence
WB--Atlanta, Shreveport, Dallas, El Paso

I-25
NB--Albuquerque, Denver, Cheyenne, Buffalo (WY)
SB--Cheyenne, Denver, Albuquerque, Las Cruces

I-35
NB--DFW, Kansas City, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Duluth

I-40
EB--Flagstaff, Oklahoma City, Memphis (or Nashville), Wilmington
WB--Nashville (or Memphis), Oklahoma City, Flagstaff, Barstow

I-65
NB--Birmingham, Nashville, Louisville (or Indianapolis), Chicago
SB--Indianapolis (or Louisville), Nashville, Birmingham, Mobile

I-85
NB--Atlanta, Charlotte, Durham, Petersburg
SB--Durham, Charlotte, Atlanta, Montgomery

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 17, 2022, 02:39:31 PM
71 is easy, as there's exactly 4 large cities on the route:
NB: Cincinnati, Columbus Cleveland
SB: Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville
The eastern I-76 is easy too, with four major cities on its own route as well:
EB--Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Philadelphia
WB--Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Akron
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: SkyPesos on April 18, 2022, 12:14:09 PM
I-69 (whenever it finishes):
NB: Houston, Memphis, Indianapolis, Pt Huron
SB: Indianapolis, Memphis, Houston, Brownsville
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: thspfc on April 18, 2022, 12:25:16 PM
I-39 NB: Peru, Rockford, Madison, Wausau
I-39 SB: Stevens Point, Madison, Rockford, Bloomington

I-41 NB: Racine, Milwaukee, Fond du Lac, Green Bay
I-41 SB: Appleton, Oshkosh, Milwaukee, Kenosha

I-43 NB: Delavan, Milwaukee, Sheboygan, Green Bay
I-43 SB: Manitowoc, Sheboygan, Milwaukee, Beloit

I-94 EB: Bismarck, Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit
I-94 WB: Ann Arbor, Chicago, Minneapolis, Billings
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: thspfc on April 18, 2022, 12:28:32 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 18, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
For all the major 2di's that haven't been covered yet, here's how I'd set them up:

I-15
SB--Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Barstow, San Diego

I-20
EB--Dallas, Shreveport, Atlanta, Florence
WB--Atlanta, Shreveport, Dallas, El Paso

I-25
NB--Albuquerque, Denver, Cheyenne, Buffalo (WY)
SB--Cheyenne, Denver, Albuquerque, Las Cruces

I-35
NB--DFW, Kansas City, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Duluth

I-40
EB--Flagstaff, Oklahoma City, Memphis (or Nashville), Wilmington
WB--Nashville (or Memphis), Oklahoma City, Flagstaff, Barstow

I-65
NB--Birmingham, Nashville, Louisville (or Indianapolis), Chicago
SB--Indianapolis (or Louisville), Nashville, Birmingham, Mobile

I-85
NB--Atlanta, Charlotte, Durham, Petersburg
SB--Durham, Charlotte, Atlanta, Montgomery

Quote from: SkyPesos on April 17, 2022, 02:39:31 PM
71 is easy, as there's exactly 4 large cities on the route:
NB: Cincinnati, Columbus Cleveland
SB: Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville
The eastern I-76 is easy too, with four major cities on its own route as well:
EB--Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Philadelphia
WB--Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Akron
For I-15 SB I would go Great Falls, SLC, Vegas, San Diego.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 18, 2022, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 18, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
I-15
SB--Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Barstow, San Diego

I'd pick any of Great Falls, Butte, Idaho Falls, or Pocatello over Barstow if we're talking about southbound.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: jaehak on April 18, 2022, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 18, 2022, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 18, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
I-15
SB--Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Barstow, San Diego

I'd pick any of Great Falls, Butte, Idaho Falls, or Pocatello over Barstow if we're talking about southbound.

Agreed. I'd also pick Riverside over Barstow for NB. Riverside, Las Vegas, SLC, Sweet Grass
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: jaehak on April 18, 2022, 01:10:03 PM
Quote from: Crown Victoria on April 17, 2022, 02:05:12 PM
For I-81:

Northbound (mileage from I-40): Roanoke 225, Harrisburg 507, Syracuse 755, Thousand Islands 853

Southbound (Mileage from the Canadian border): Binghamton 172, Harrisburg 351, Roanoke 641, Dandridge TN 853 (Or, could use Knoxville 888)


Another idea in addition to the spirit of this thread, as I-81 is used as an I-95 bypass, one could list cities via other interstates at certain points along the route.

A sign on northbound I-81 just north of I-77 south could read Washington DC via I-66 295, Philadelphia via I-76 453, New York City via I-78 515, Boston via I-84 and I-90 756.

Southbound signage might be a bit more complicated, depending on the cities chosen. From a point just south of I-66, Charleston WV via I-64 290, Charlotte via I-77 347, Knoxville via I-40 409, Nashville via I-40 588 would be easy.

But, many travelers on I-81 are heading to further destinations. So how complicated do you get? Atlanta via I-77 & I-85 583? Jacksonville via I-77 & I-26 & I-95 729? Miami via I-77 & I-26 & I-95 1080? Would that be helpful, confusing, or not a concern at all?

81 is a weird one for sure. Hugely important corridor but no major cities on the actual route, which I suppose is the point. I do kinda like the DC Philly NYC thing on NB but you're right, SB things get confusing
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: jaehak on April 18, 2022, 01:13:08 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on April 17, 2022, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: jaehak on April 16, 2022, 03:21:23 PM
And 70 W Denver, Kansas City (should replace St Louis in the real sign imo), Indianapolis, Baltimore

Just out of idle curiosity, why do you think Kansas City should replace Saint Louis? Its MSA has a 27% bigger population than Kansas City's.

Personal bias more than anything lol. I'm from just outside KC. I could argue that it comes down to KC city proper being well bigger than StL, but it probably has more to do with wanting the Royals to beat the Cardinals.
Title: Re: Giving roads an I-70 in MD style starting mileage sign
Post by: Takumi on April 21, 2022, 11:27:22 PM
I-64 WB: Richmond, Charleston, Louisville, St. Louis.
I-64 EB: Louisville, Charleston, Richmond, Norfolk/VB/Chesapeake (all three debatable)

I-97 NB: Glen Burnie, Baltimore, Towson, New York.
I-97 SB: Glen Burnie, Annapolis, Bay Bridge, Richmond.